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TeHTerraNAeriAL
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada87 Posts
September 13 2007 17:46 GMT
#41
"I dont give a crap about Casy" Perfect option.
TvP TvZ PvT
polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-13 18:50:48
September 13 2007 18:43 GMT
#42
On September 13 2007 03:30 TheTyranid wrote:
I'm surprised how many people on TL don't like Casy. Casy is the best Terran since Oov's domination and the most exciting player by far imo.


post of the week. Best Terran since OOV? And you are telling me that I post BS...

I wonder why people always tell about his "great TvZ and TvT". His TvT winrate is slowly above 50%, and out of the last 13 games he won 2. Wow, great, looks really like "the best terran since OOV" R O F L - not to comment on his atrocious TvP.

For me Casy is lke the Silver of Terran. Silver has one good matchup - ZvP and luckboxed his way to a final as well, for luck he didn't win it.
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
September 13 2007 19:16 GMT
#43
On September 14 2007 03:43 polarwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2007 03:30 TheTyranid wrote:
I'm surprised how many people on TL don't like Casy. Casy is the best Terran since Oov's domination and the most exciting player by far imo.


post of the week. Best Terran since OOV? And you are telling me that I post BS...

I wonder why people always tell about his "great TvZ and TvT". His TvT winrate is slowly above 50%, and out of the last 13 games he won 2. Wow, great, looks really like "the best terran since OOV" R O F L - not to comment on his atrocious TvP.

For me Casy is lke the Silver of Terran. Silver has one good matchup - ZvP and luckboxed his way to a final as well, for luck he didn't win it.


The fact that Casy's TvT has beeen this bad lately is because of his slump not because he inherently sucks at it. I suspect he would be loosing even TvZ if he played more of that mu lately. Just look at his game vs. GGPlay.
I believe that the whole conflict he had with OGN demoralized him. I just don't think he could have been focused on his game with all these problems around. Hell he was being scolded by his coach and team for a match he didn't even play in.

Now that he has transferred to Wemade he SHOULD be able to redeem himself but only if he WANTS to. I unfortunately don't cnow the details of what team rules he was breaking in OGN. If he truely was clubbing or even doing drugs and has lost his basic progamer mind, as his OGN coach said, then that was his choice. Regardless of that he is still one of the most talented terrans ever.

Now the part that you wrote that was bullshit- " he stole that OSL championship from another player". Sorry man but there is no such thing as stealing titles. There is WINNING titles.

Would you say that Bisu stole the MSL from Savior? No, he won it with perfect counter and execution. And despite the fact that I am a big Savior fan, I understood that with the kind of hubrous attitude and gameplay that Savior showed that day he did not deserve it more.
You know, STEALING a title would be going up to his team house, grabbing the title, and rewriting the tournament chart.

Casy WON the title by beating Zergman, Yellow, and Chojja. His mnm control was mesmorising in those series. I would argue that it was the best ever.

About his atrocious TvP. I personally like flawed players and IMO a player does not need to be solid in every matchup, or face every race in a starleague to be a champion.
This is like the consistent vs. champion argument, and I prefer champions over consistent players ( except YellOw).

If you read this post please tell me which Terran was better and more successful since Oov.



sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
September 14 2007 08:04 GMT
#44
On September 14 2007 04:16 TheTyranid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2007 03:43 polarwolf wrote:
On September 13 2007 03:30 TheTyranid wrote:
I'm surprised how many people on TL don't like Casy. Casy is the best Terran since Oov's domination and the most exciting player by far imo.


post of the week. Best Terran since OOV? And you are telling me that I post BS...

I wonder why people always tell about his "great TvZ and TvT". His TvT winrate is slowly above 50%, and out of the last 13 games he won 2. Wow, great, looks really like "the best terran since OOV" R O F L - not to comment on his atrocious TvP.

For me Casy is lke the Silver of Terran. Silver has one good matchup - ZvP and luckboxed his way to a final as well, for luck he didn't win it.


The fact that Casy's TvT has beeen this bad lately is because of his slump not because he inherently sucks at it. I suspect he would be loosing even TvZ if he played more of that mu lately. Just look at his game vs. GGPlay.
I believe that the whole conflict he had with OGN demoralized him. I just don't think he could have been focused on his game with all these problems around. Hell he was being scolded by his coach and team for a match he didn't even play in.

Now that he has transferred to Wemade he SHOULD be able to redeem himself but only if he WANTS to. I unfortunately don't cnow the details of what team rules he was breaking in OGN. If he truely was clubbing or even doing drugs and has lost his basic progamer mind, as his OGN coach said, then that was his choice. Regardless of that he is still one of the most talented terrans ever.

Now the part that you wrote that was bullshit- " he stole that OSL championship from another player". Sorry man but there is no such thing as stealing titles. There is WINNING titles.

Would you say that Bisu stole the MSL from Savior? No, he won it with perfect counter and execution. And despite the fact that I am a big Savior fan, I understood that with the kind of hubrous attitude and gameplay that Savior showed that day he did not deserve it more.
You know, STEALING a title would be going up to his team house, grabbing the title, and rewriting the tournament chart.

Casy WON the title by beating Zergman, Yellow, and Chojja. His mnm control was mesmorising in those series. I would argue that it was the best ever.

About his atrocious TvP. I personally like flawed players and IMO a player does not need to be solid in every matchup, or face every race in a starleague to be a champion.
This is like the consistent vs. champion argument, and I prefer champions over consistent players ( except YellOw).

If you read this post please tell me which Terran was better and more successful since Oov.




Nada
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polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
September 14 2007 14:55 GMT
#45
well, NaDa has been doing better than him and there is a gap between skill and success although they are related of course. However, Casy's win was statistical excursion in my opinion, because you cannot expect him to do well in the long run.

If i was leader of a team, there would be tons of terrans i would prefer over Casy: Midas, Hwasin, FBH, NaDa, Iris - because they are more consistent and simply more well rounded players than him.
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-14 16:43:45
September 14 2007 16:43 GMT
#46
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-14 16:46:59
September 14 2007 16:44 GMT
#47

I meant new player since Oov. Nada's prime was before his so in that sence he was "before" Oov.

edit: lol can't even quote properly today.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
September 15 2007 00:07 GMT
#48
On September 14 2007 03:43 polarwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2007 03:30 TheTyranid wrote:
I'm surprised how many people on TL don't like Casy. Casy is the best Terran since Oov's domination and the most exciting player by far imo.


post of the week. Best Terran since OOV? And you are telling me that I post BS...

I wonder why people always tell about his "great TvZ and TvT". His TvT winrate is slowly above 50%, and out of the last 13 games he won 2. Wow, great, looks really like "the best terran since OOV" R O F L - not to comment on his atrocious TvP.

For me Casy is lke the Silver of Terran. Silver has one good matchup - ZvP and luckboxed his way to a final as well, for luck he didn't win it.


You don't luck box two semis. 2-3 losses to Oov and Nada respectively.
And win a OSL in 3 consecutive OSLs without having major talent.
If you can't see that, Yoohs stoopid.

The wildcard was a bit lucky, but that was 32man OSL. Take away 2007. Casy was a beast.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Asakura
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Germany471 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-15 15:45:45
September 15 2007 15:44 GMT
#49
On September 14 2007 02:46 TeHTerraNAeriAL wrote:
"I dont give a crap about Casy" Perfect option.

Well, I do give a crap (voted don't, though) but I don't care in which team he is as long as he provides good games like once versus July.
Man is disturbed not by things, but by the views he takes of them. (Epictetus)
Kassios
Profile Joined May 2006
France1424 Posts
September 16 2007 12:16 GMT
#50
that's great, lot better than ACE imo
- Death is certain, life is not -
GMer[TOp]
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada118 Posts
September 16 2007 14:52 GMT
#51
I think in the world of Pro Gaming @ korea, being on any team and still a good player is a bonus. They need their jobs, or they'll have to live the less luxurious life. Meaning work, school, chores, etc.....
Money is everything
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
September 19 2007 16:39 GMT
#52
casy provided the most entertaining games ever in the shinhan osl against zerg.
it was the best micro i have ever seen in starcraft marines
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
September 20 2007 04:55 GMT
#53
what is FOX?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
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