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oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2934 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-04 21:17:09
September 04 2007 21:16 GMT
#41
Pusan, because hes played the field for quite some time, been a very successful captain, and is a solid player.

And unlike many others he actually stuck it out in a unsponsered team, and it payed off.

I also think someone like Rock would be a good trade.
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bumpirate
Profile Joined June 2007
United States122 Posts
September 04 2007 21:45 GMT
#42
this one is easy.

SEA because he is good substitute for Boxer.

Sea is the next future super terran. <---- Boxer called it.
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
September 04 2007 22:39 GMT
#43
Sea... He is so damn young and seems to have the most potential in the future... The other players seem to be near their peak right now... It's like trading for an up and coming footballer =)

btw, love this new trend of "fantasy progamers"... guess it started with the whole casy fiasco
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
September 04 2007 22:46 GMT
#44
Iris...

Is this just another way of asking, which one of the following is the best player?
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tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
September 04 2007 22:54 GMT
#45
On September 04 2007 22:56 minus_human wrote:
Iris. A truly cold blooded, professional Terran doom device.

How many times did Boxer beat sAviOr? That's right, NEVER.
I bet Iris would take down Boxer in TvT also.

That being besides the point, Iris would be a very good team leader. Very cool, very steady and calm. A mature person and a mature player, who has yet to prove potential, unlike the other poll options.

Sea is simply too young to be captain - besides the age problem, there aren't any other drawbacks with Sea imo.


boxer beat savior once on monty hall.
Q(-_-Q)
Profile Joined August 2007
United States348 Posts
September 04 2007 23:56 GMT
#46
If your replacing, go with another terran. Out of all the terrans there, IriS is the most well-rounded and experienced. He plays in major tournaments and did quite well in the OSL.

Though Sea is a close second, Sea doesn't have the well rounded edges. His TvT is godly yet he sometimes falls off in TvP.

Any good team needs a balanced player and that seems like it would be IriS
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-05 00:07:53
September 05 2007 00:06 GMT
#47
honestly, anyone who says (P)Pusan is living in the past. He may have leadership skills, but with an 11-11 record since the start of the year and most of his wins against players like Backho (which was not entirely convincing IMO), (P)Kal (although fun to watch, 22% PVP), an out of shape intotherrainbow, frozean, (P)HoOny, pepe and cool, he is just not anywhere near any of the other players in this poll. In fact, in order to go back to his last win against a dominant player, you have to go all the way back to January 20th when he beat (T)Midas on tau.

I mean the dude lost to (Z)Child.

(P)Anytime and (Z)GoRush, although not slumping as hard are just as much for sentimental value.
(Z)GoRush has a solid 17-17 record - 2-7 in his last 9 games (all against protoss) and benefitted from a terran (Z)sAviOr. (Z)GoRush is certainly a solid player, but I wouldn't build a team around him.

(P)Anytime is a decent 26-22 record, and is the better protoss to pick, but is still by far not the strongest player in the poll, and hasnt shown the necessary consistency to build a dynasty around.

Sea is a young player with lots of potential. He has a positive record in all matchups, hovering in the 60s - including a startling 27-14 record vs protoss. Even though he has arguably had some easy matchups, and has a less than stellar record vs dominant players this year, he is someone that will grow with time.

(T)Iris has a 9-4 proleague record this season, a 9-5 record for the last OGN starleague (where he finished second by a slim margin) and is almost certainly the most dominant terran.

With the onset of sc2, it seems obvious that any serious team would choose (T)Iris at almost any cost.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
September 05 2007 00:19 GMT
#48
Boxer isn't just a good player, Boxer is the leader and the pillar of strength for his team. Having strong players doesn't mean a team will be successful. Look at SKT1 without Boxer, they are complete shit.

If they are trading away Boxer, they would definitely need a new and incredibly strong leader to hold the team together. The best choice from that list would probably be Pusan, he's the only pro on that list that comes close to having the charisma and leadership of Boxer and has had experience leading MBC (along with July) to success. Anytime and Gorush would probably be 2nd and 3rd on that list.

For pure skill and strength, however, I would go for Iris. He's definitely the strongest player on the list.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
September 05 2007 00:25 GMT
#49
If you are looking for a power house to replace him, you would have to choose sea. Just look at his freaking record and you'll see why.
If you are looking to fill his spot as a leader, you would have to pick (P)Pusan. (Z)GoRush doesn't seem like a leader to me and (P)Anytime is somewhat inconsistent.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-05 04:32:06
September 05 2007 00:38 GMT
#50
i'd pick Iris because he's older than Sea, no other reason

Both of them would be strong additions to AirForce's weak lineup, and AirForce desperately needs some Terran presence. They have ONE (lol)terran if they trade Boxer away, so it has to be a terran that fills the hole.

Iris is a better choice than Sea (despite the fact that I prefer Sea as a player) because he's older and more accustomed to a rigorous training schedule already
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
September 05 2007 03:27 GMT
#51
GoRush. Leadership.

PuSan may be considered a leader, but I've always liked GoRush's badass image XP PuSan will always be concave face protoss to me.
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EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-05 03:47:10
September 05 2007 03:45 GMT
#52
(T)Sea[Shield] because he's a very well-rounded T player and airforce needs one if they lose boxer.

Woah, I just realized me and sea have the same birthday (day, month, and year..) cool
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-05 03:46:14
September 05 2007 03:46 GMT
#53
Sea. Simply because he is the most solid player. If ACE was losing (T)BoxeR, then they're losing a terran player and their most solid player (actually Mummyung or (Z)Clon might be more solid, but they're zergs). Having (T)ChRh as the only Terran on that team would be suicide (unless (T)Casy joins).
Sea would be the safest replacement for (T)BoxeR.

As for leadership, ACE is full of veterans who I'm sure know how to lead a team correctly.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
September 05 2007 04:59 GMT
#54
I don't know why Casy wasn't put on the poll given recent circumstances, but agreeing with L2W for the most part.
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i.play.ZERG
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada276 Posts
September 05 2007 05:25 GMT
#55
Iris because he's the #2 on Power Rank
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
September 05 2007 05:30 GMT
#56
Sea.Shield just because he can be really good at times. Would have voted for (Z)GoRush or (T)Iris but I dont like (T)Iris for some reason and I dont know why I chose Sea over (Z)GoRush. I kinda want (P)Anytime to stay on his team, although OGN losing (P)Anytime AND (T)Casy at the same time will really hurt their standings.
estebannam
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States187 Posts
September 05 2007 06:15 GMT
#57
i dont like pusan ^^ thats all i like all the others players except iris so it was either pusan or iris and chose pusan :D
SlayerS_'BoxeR' Forever
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Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
September 05 2007 09:24 GMT
#58
Berserker Terran FTW
I just like his offensive style
I'll call Nada.
RebelHeart
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
New Zealand722 Posts
September 05 2007 09:42 GMT
#59
Iris... 'Cos I don't want the world to see me...
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 05 2007 10:23 GMT
#60
PuSan...
PuSan captained his team to victory in 2006 over SKT - who lacked the leadership of boxer

They need a strong leader - which pusan is
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