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Which one of these Zergs has the highest ZvZ winni

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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51496 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-17 14:30:50
July 17 2007 14:22 GMT
#1
All of these Zergs have placed 4th or better in a Starleague between now and 4 years ago.
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MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
July 17 2007 14:25 GMT
#2
Didn't Chojja have an amazing ZvZ record a while ago? He was virtually unbeatable in that matchup and beat SAviOr to win his first title. I guess you know who I voted for.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 17 2007 14:26 GMT
#3
On July 17 2007 23:22 GTR-2-Go wrote:
All of these Zergs have placed 4th or better in a Starleague between now and 3 years ago.


that's not true

also the answer is gorush
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dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-17 14:32:21
July 17 2007 14:28 GMT
#4
didn't chojja proclaim himself king of zvz at one point? he said "zvz is MY matchup", or something to that effect. i'm going for him again, i guess.

and there's no way in hell it's savior, btw.

edit: then again, gtr made this poll, so it's probably some old schooler like junwi. i've never seen junwi play though..
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Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
July 17 2007 14:30 GMT
#5
Yellow or Chojja I guess. Certainly not Junwi
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51496 Posts
July 17 2007 14:31 GMT
#6
On July 17 2007 23:26 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
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On July 17 2007 23:22 GTR-2-Go wrote:
All of these Zergs have placed 4th or better in a Starleague between now and 3 years ago.


that's not true

also the answer is gorush


typo
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 17 2007 14:33 GMT
#7
On July 17 2007 23:31 GTR-2-Go wrote:
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On July 17 2007 23:26 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On July 17 2007 23:22 GTR-2-Go wrote:
All of these Zergs have placed 4th or better in a Starleague between now and 3 years ago.


that's not true

also the answer is gorush


typo


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Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
July 17 2007 14:47 GMT
#8
i'm gonna guess jju =/
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
July 17 2007 14:58 GMT
#9
chojja, yellow, gorush and jju were all known at one point for having a strong zvz. savior has been performing well in zvz in recent times. july also had his period where he was tearing faces in zvz. no idea about junwi though.

i'm going to vote gorush, though i think it could be chojja
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-Groove
Profile Joined July 2007
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-17 15:20:09
July 17 2007 15:12 GMT
#10
SaviOr's ZvZ is definately not bad, its just not as dominating as his other matchups, because it cant be due to the randomness that is ZvZ

edit: voted JJu, idk why
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morfyy
Profile Joined May 2007
Romania593 Posts
July 17 2007 15:25 GMT
#11
nop sAviOr ZvZ is imba ^^
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
July 17 2007 15:48 GMT
#12
i vote junwi for no reason whatsoever

but i'm pretty sure its gorush or chojja
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Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
July 17 2007 16:00 GMT
#13
Definitely one from SouL. Jju or Chojja? I picked Chojja because he was the first one from SouL who was really successful so he didn't have to fight against other ZvZ monsters from his guild. ^^
Evilmonkey.
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1628 Posts
July 17 2007 16:46 GMT
#14
I swear to god there is a conspiracy, almost every good zerg in broodwar has either had a G or a J in their screen name. Just look Chojja, GoRush, Junwi, Savior[gm], Julyzerg, jju, and even GGplay. Yellow is one of the only obvious exceptions. Pretty weird.

Oh and I'm gonna go with Chojja.
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_Grazze_
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
834 Posts
July 17 2007 16:58 GMT
#15
Savior too if u dont count [gm] which i dont ...
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
July 17 2007 17:29 GMT
#16
chojja
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 17 2007 17:36 GMT
#17
top 3 ZvZ all time go YellOw/ChOJJa/JJu [lol jju?!!] but I'm not sure of the %. Just by wins -_-;

I voted Jju, but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong.
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Honk2000
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany698 Posts
July 17 2007 17:45 GMT
#18
i think it's yellow, his last zvz loss i remember was from 2003 vs junwi ^^
2nd would be gorush and 3rd chojja.
Mango
Profile Joined July 2006
Belgium522 Posts
July 17 2007 17:52 GMT
#19
Missing Zergman here, but going for chojja
InfectedMind
Profile Joined December 2005
Bulgaria78 Posts
July 17 2007 18:06 GMT
#20
JULY!
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 17 2007 18:25 GMT
#21
where is jaedong
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boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
July 17 2007 18:37 GMT
#22
I voted for Savior for the hell of it like people do for Boxer.
KennyTheFool
Profile Joined March 2006
Italy41 Posts
July 17 2007 19:32 GMT
#23
Where can i see the answers to all the quiz ?
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 17 2007 19:42 GMT
#24
On July 18 2007 03:25 Carnac wrote:
where is jaedong


if jaedong was there it would be an easy question

31% of the people are wrong here but at least chojja is the closest
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 17 2007 19:42 GMT
#25
JJu or JJa
picking jju because i love the guy more
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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
July 17 2007 20:19 GMT
#26
chojja is the easy/bait answer ... gorush probably
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Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
July 17 2007 20:40 GMT
#27
gorush or possibly junwi.
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taktak
Profile Joined August 2006
91 Posts
July 17 2007 20:49 GMT
#28
just voted for july because he is the real god of mutalisks and zerglings
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 17 2007 21:43 GMT
#29
It's likely I missed it and wouldn't know if Chojja, Yellow, Junwi, etc. accrued a huge amount of ZvZ wins back in the day. But a lot of people underestimate Savior's ZvZ compared to his other matchups, so I'm going with Savior for his 2006 rampage and relative lack of ZvZ games in 2007.
[IrIs]YellOw
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden91 Posts
July 17 2007 22:26 GMT
#30
YellOw, god damn it! All hail YellOw... I'm one of YellOw's biggest fan. Don't dissapoint me!
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 17 2007 23:20 GMT
#31
I have no idea... this poll is like ZvZ, except instead of a 1:2 shot, I have a 1:8 one. >.<
Going to go with Chojja.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
July 17 2007 23:21 GMT
#32
i voted chojja
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nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
July 17 2007 23:32 GMT
#33
wasnt chojja known for having the monster zvz?
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
July 18 2007 00:02 GMT
#34
Everyone had the best zvz in their prime and since none had their prime in the same time its hard to know. I remember yellow was the king of zvz. Than chojja than gorush than chojja again with savior/zergman. July and Jju are good zvz but not best. Gorush in his yrtgk prime overthrown chojja's zvz throne. I pick gorush but thats fanboyism talking.
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HungerForMore
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan420 Posts
July 18 2007 00:52 GMT
#35
It's Gorush, no contest. Most of the others dont even have above 60%. I know that since I actually just recently checked the more famous zergs stats. I did not check Junwi, but i'm pretty sure his isn't very high.
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
July 18 2007 02:25 GMT
#36
Gorush
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25987 Posts
July 18 2007 02:49 GMT
#37
So many seemingly viable answers. I took the noob bait and went Chojja.
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Shiva_Chandra
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Denmark341 Posts
July 18 2007 02:59 GMT
#38
Definitely Gorush
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estebannam
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States187 Posts
July 18 2007 03:08 GMT
#39
its definetly not savior... i bet you ppl just voted savior cuz they think his the best but savior worst match up is ZvZ
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useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
July 18 2007 03:22 GMT
#40
Aw, I forgot if it was chojja or gorush
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-Groove
Profile Joined July 2007
34 Posts
July 18 2007 04:18 GMT
#41
On July 18 2007 12:08 estebannam wrote:
its definetly not savior... i bet you ppl just voted savior cuz they think his the best but savior worst match up is ZvZ

his winning percentage was around 60% in his dominance, and for ZvZ that is fucking good
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Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
July 18 2007 04:51 GMT
#42
I'd say ChoJJa cuz I remember the time he was a sure bet in ZvZ ;-)
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-18 06:36:10
July 18 2007 05:35 GMT
#43
ahhh. I got tricked. I voted ChoJJa after checking KeSPA thinking it was who had the most wins, but it asked who had the best win percentage, which is not chojja.

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it's savior if I'm looking at this right

damn, ChoJJa's ZvZ wins more than doubles Savior's ZvZ wins, yet Savior's zvz win percentage is higher.

Infact, ChoJJa, who has the most zvz wins has 84 wins... and YellOw, who has the second most wins, has 67. ChoJJa has 17 more. Savior only has 36...
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red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-18 05:51:40
July 18 2007 05:50 GMT
#44
Pretty well known its YELLOW.

HONG JIN HO!!!!!!!!!

Edit: Or Savior now I guess from reading the thread? : [ Yellow used to have like 65% wins ZvZ, maybe it got eroded in the last year and a half.
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
July 18 2007 06:37 GMT
#45
Interesting facts:
- YellOw has had the most wins in ZvP for awhile now. But July is now tied with him.
- YellOw has 99 vT wins. 1 more and he hits 100!
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PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
July 18 2007 06:39 GMT
#46
no idea...
and it's zvz, don't care
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Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
July 18 2007 07:32 GMT
#47
big baller chojja caller

(i think)
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Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
July 18 2007 08:20 GMT
#48
what about zergman?????
hmm ill choose july anyway cuz hes COOL!
Star.Sense
Profile Joined June 2007
38 Posts
July 18 2007 08:48 GMT
#49
On July 18 2007 01:46 Evilmonkey. wrote:
I swear to god there is a conspiracy, almost every good zerg in broodwar has either had a G or a J in their screen name. Just look Chojja, GoRush, Junwi, Savior[gm], Julyzerg, jju, and even GGplay. Yellow is one of the only obvious exceptions. Pretty weird.

Oh and I'm gonna go with Chojja.


ipxzer[g]
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 18 2007 10:09 GMT
#50
On July 18 2007 17:48 Star.Sense wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2007 01:46 Evilmonkey. wrote:
I swear to god there is a conspiracy, almost every good zerg in broodwar has either had a G or a J in their screen name. Just look Chojja, GoRush, Junwi, Savior[gm], Julyzerg, jju, and even GGplay. Yellow is one of the only obvious exceptions. Pretty weird.

Oh and I'm gonna go with Chojja.


ipxzer[g]


hm interesting.

The next 2 zergs I thought of all had g or j
They were jaedong and Sigamari
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
July 18 2007 11:04 GMT
#51
WHAT? NOT JULY? BLASPHEMY!
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 18 2007 12:12 GMT
#52
voting savior
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
July 18 2007 15:40 GMT
#53
we're not getting the answer to this one?
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
July 19 2007 22:36 GMT
#54
well Gtr hasnt posting them, but i know them so:

1. Gorush 61-41 59.80%
2. Chojja 84-62 57.53%
3. July 51-38 57.30%
4. Savior 36-27 57.14%
5. Yellow 67-51 56.78%
6. JJu 62-49 55.86%
7. Junwi 31-37 45.59%

because fakesteve mentioned that jaedong has the best zvz record in progaming history, i had GTR check the stats and he is 18-5 (78.26%) which is a very good record, though a little empty compared to the more seasoned players in the list. time will eventually fill out his record and give us a good indication of how much his zvz is really worth
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
July 20 2007 06:51 GMT
#55
hmmm

when I checked KeSPA it showed Savior with over 60% win percentage in ZvZ, which puts him on top
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