EPTHow important is commentary to your enjoyment of StarCraft…
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TL.net Bot
TL.net131 Posts
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sugarmuffinpuff
Canada38 Posts
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Darkness2k11
Chile313 Posts
5 I guess | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
So 3. | ||
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Kitai
United States873 Posts
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yxme
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dogmode
Philippines491 Posts
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
But, I look forward every week to hearing Tasteless and Artosis while I'm watching games. I love their commentary and it definitely improves the experience a lot. I'm really starting to love listening to PiG and Maynarde together too, because they're just so goofy and fun. Good commentary improves the enjoyment I have watching Starcraft, but it's not mandatory. | ||
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Morrissey
Germany55 Posts
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naughtDE
158 Posts
I guess bad commentary takes more away from the game (the game sounds for one when muted) than good commentary adds? My favourite cast ever was snute and socke at one of the HSCs, but it didn't make the games better, it had value for itself, sooo much deep knowledge. Just like Tasteless and Artosis could banter over anything and it would be a good time, the game itself does not become better or worse i think. | ||
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Greenei
Germany1754 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On May 05 2020 01:06 Greenei wrote: I sometimes wish you could mute the caster without muting the game sounds. Well heck, there's plenty of streams I can think of where I can't hear the game sounds at all or barely. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
Then again, i do watch many of the smaller online cups, where i have to mute the caster. That means, I can enjoy it enough to tune in even without commentary, so i voted 4. | ||
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Immaterial
Canada510 Posts
All of that being said, I do find it kind of annoying when people constantly shit on casters they don't personally enjoy listening to. That kind of attitude strikes me as a bit infantile, because as important as good casting is to the experience of watching Starcraft, if you dislike the casting that much there is always the option to mute. | ||
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VGhost
United States3613 Posts
It's not the highest level analysis, but Rapid and Nyoken as a pair have done a great job with the BSL casts, they might be my favorite right now. | ||
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paddyz
Ireland628 Posts
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_fool
Netherlands677 Posts
Commentary by (ex-)pro players is the best imo, and I'm ok with a play-by-play wingman. Hype casters I don't care that much about (except iNcontroL  )When commentary is just play-by-play, it becomes somewhat redundant at times. But mix in the occasional prediction (who cares about caster curse) or fun fact and I'm a happy camper | ||
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Lazy_Einstein
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Personally, I don't always enjoy it when some casters add banter and non-SC2 talk in excess. Banter/Joking/etc, between games, can add to the enjoyment of the cast but can easily go overboard and lower the quality of the casting. Talking about non-SC2 things on one's Twitch streams is fine but it doesn't have as much of a place in online tournaments and joint casts. To me, the good casters/commentators are: - Invested in the game. (Be an active and regular player/watcher who knows the game to a high level(the units, their stats, builds, etc.) - Spend 85%-90% of the time talking about the game during casts. (Mechanics, play-predictions based on information, providing less known information on units/etc for low-level players(PiG does this well), talking about errors in play and potential ways to avoid those errors in the future.) - Focused when casting. (One would not do well playing SC2 if one did not focus while playing. I find many casters, who banter and talk about non-SC2 things too much are the ones who end up being less focused while casting and give the least amount of productive/interesting input.) I'd like to see more new casters being brought in and have a third and/or fourth person join Tastetosis to add to the between-game SC2 discussions. I feel that would create more thought-provoking debates about game mechanics/play/strats/builds; all while adding a fresh addition/perspective to every cast. +1 for adding pro players to the commentary is awesome(Like paddyz said above. Showtime and special on the couch was awesome. More of that would be great.) | ||
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Li_Xin
51 Posts
Artosis+Tasteless are so good though that it's become important to have them casting the ASL. I would still watch some games without them, but that's it. Also, there was that Brood War Christmas Bash with day9, incontrol, Artosis, Tasteless and I've never ever had more entertained by casters in any professional sport or e-sport like I was by them. The game play in that tournament was hardly anything impressive, but that was a damn entertaining time. Was really hoping they would all get together next Christmas but sadly they didn't. And now Incontrol is gone, so there's no chance it will ever happen again. It's still pretty sad to think that he's gone. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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muppet70
Sweden72 Posts
I really like how Wardi have evolved as a caster (however I wont bash anyone). Its rare that I've muted casters but it does happen, because of clueless, talking too much of something completely unrelated or even heavy bias that I disagree with. | ||
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Sombre
United Kingdom86 Posts
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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Opposition1
14 Posts
In DOTA major tournaments, and especially TI, the casting is also excellent. There are too many good casters to name, really, but characters like ODPixel and Synderen come to mind. Their stage presence and delivery help to complement their already deep game knowledge. In Starcraft, however, I have to seek out Korean language VOD's because despite not speaking Korean, I feel like I learn a lot more from them. The last time I randomly unmuted Tastosis casting an intense game of Brood War they spent a couple minutes of back-and-forth gameplay talking about coathangers. I don't think there's anything wrong with folks enjoying their style of casting -- they are trying to make the game fun for people. For me, I don't like their off topic banter, insider jokes, and frequently inaccurate statements about the events occurring in the game. To be perfectly honest Tasteless seems genuinely bored with his job. Unfortunately there aren't any other choices for me as far as English language VOD's are concerned, so it's harder to enjoy the games muted unless I can find a Korean cast. There was a single cast I saw in which Cadenzie participated that I enjoyed because she is a knowledgeable player and despite not talking much, she stuck to the content of the game when she spoke. I would like to see her commentary more often. The Starcraft 2 community has some better talent, in my opinion. I've enjoyed ToD's casting in particular, and was surprised that Idra was a decent caster too, despite not being my favorite person as a player. Even so, I don't always feel like the casters are always as specific or precise as they are in games like League of Legends. I'd love to be proven wrong here -- maybe I've overlooked some good casters who can stay on topic. I'd love to hear some high quality commentators explain the game well. Recently I've been exploring the Warcraft 3 and AoE2 tournament VOD's and I have to say they're also great. Sometimes the casters assume their viewers know a little much (you don't get a lot of explanations of standard play), but otherwise I can watch and re-watch VOD's from these games and keep learning over and over. I'd say that in general both of these games have excellent and highly knowledgeable individuals who really help me get better at the game every time I listen to them. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
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[AS]Rattus
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RandomPlayer
Russian Federation393 Posts
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