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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-31 18:13:20
December 31 2019 18:11 GMT
#21
On December 31 2019 22:50 Creo1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2019 03:07 Solio wrote:
Dark obviously, won gsl, supertournament and blizzcon, people vote for Serral because he is foreigner


And lost to Elazer in ro16 of GSL vs the world :|


And Serral lost to Heromarine and Neeb early this year. What's your point?

Everyone has some questionable losses this year. Dark was the most consistent player all year. That one loss to Elazer was pretty much his only wtf are you doing series all year.
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
January 01 2020 08:50 GMT
#22
Trap
Dedraterllaerau
Profile Joined May 2019
113 Posts
January 02 2020 03:21 GMT
#23
sry cant take zergs seriously in games current state
DrunkenSCV
Profile Joined November 2016
76 Posts
January 02 2020 09:17 GMT
#24
Woa, I didn't expect the poll to be so biased. Literally everything says Dark was better in 2019.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 02 2020 19:17 GMT
#25
On December 30 2019 08:17 sneakyfox wrote:
Dark is the new aLive.


He really is
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
January 03 2020 15:26 GMT
#26
Serral winning this poll by that margin is absolute nonsense.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-03 15:46:14
January 03 2020 15:45 GMT
#27
On January 04 2020 00:26 Elentos wrote:
Serral winning this poll by that margin is absolute nonsense.

shut up you korean loving hater

ALL HAIL THE BLIZZCON SEMIFINALIST
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
January 03 2020 15:48 GMT
#28
Lol how is this poll so one-sidedly in favor of Serral?
Mine gas, build tanks.
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany460 Posts
January 03 2020 18:31 GMT
#29
I did not vote in this poll, but for me personally it´s very clear that Serral is the best player in the world by quite a margin and for nearly two years already.
Dark was sad that he did not beat Serral in the Blizzcon finals not because he knew that he would not be recognized as the best player of the year if he did not beat him, but because he could not acknowledge himself as the best player without a single win over Serral in 2019. Why i think that? Because Dark does not seem like someone who cares a lot about what people think but rather as someone who is very ambitious and wants to prove himself over the other players.
Of course there are arguments for Dark and I can understand everyone who says Dark was the better player in 2019, but when I watch games of those two vs various opponents it just seems to me that Serral is the better player overall.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-03 19:36:45
January 03 2020 19:17 GMT
#30
The people who don't acknowledge Dark as the best player of 2019 now wouldn't have acknowledged him as such if he beat Serral in the Blizzcon finals instead either. If you go 10-1 against the best TvZ and PvZ players as well as the only Zerg that Serral struggles with at all you can by all rights consider yourself the best. People should consider you the best or at least think about it. But people still rather put Serral ahead even though he was far less successful than the year before and not more successful than Dark.

I've seen more than one person call Serral the world champion recently, too.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
January 04 2020 01:31 GMT
#31
On December 31 2019 22:50 Creo1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2019 03:07 Solio wrote:
Dark obviously, won gsl, supertournament and blizzcon, people vote for Serral because he is foreigner


And lost to Elazer in ro16 of GSL vs the world :|

so true, even the casters over hyped serral. foreigner bias for sure.
Dance.943 || "I think he's just going to lose. There's only so many ways you can lose. And he's going to make some kind of units. And I'm going to attack him, and then all his stuff is going to die. That's about the best prediction that I can make" - NonY
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 04 2020 11:15 GMT
#32
On January 04 2020 04:17 Elentos wrote:
The people who don't acknowledge Dark as the best player of 2019 now wouldn't have acknowledged him as such if he beat Serral in the Blizzcon finals instead either. If you go 10-1 against the best TvZ and PvZ players as well as the only Zerg that Serral struggles with at all you can by all rights consider yourself the best. People should consider you the best or at least think about it. But people still rather put Serral ahead even though he was far less successful than the year before and not more successful than Dark.

I've seen more than one person call Serral the world champion recently, too.


It's like Maru fanboys on steroids. I mean we all know that with Maru it's only the good games that count, the rest are just ignored. But with Serral that's taken to a whole new level. Here it's entire tournaments that don't count if Serral doesn't win. All hail the reining world champion Serral


On January 04 2020 10:31 DanceSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2019 22:50 Creo1 wrote:
On December 31 2019 03:07 Solio wrote:
Dark obviously, won gsl, supertournament and blizzcon, people vote for Serral because he is foreigner


And lost to Elazer in ro16 of GSL vs the world :|

so true, even the casters over hyped serral. foreigner bias for sure.


Well that is pretty much the point. I imagine that some casters overhyping Serral has everything to do with how some people believe him to be clearly the best regardless of what he wins. Many of the Circuit casters declared Serral the GOAT of SC2 already in 2018 and haven't looked back since. It's probably also a business thing since it really helps hype up the Circuit events, which is after all where their income comes from, and I imagine it makes it more exciting to cast them as well if we say the GOAT is present.

But for those of us who follow all of SC2 it is disappointing and bothersome. Not least because of the double standards applied: we all know that Serral was declared player of the year in 2018 mainly because of his smashing performance at the global finals. Without it, he wouldn't have gotten that praise. But now that another player has an even more dominant performance at Blizzcon, with a Code S win, ST win, many other top finishes, etc, it apparently doesn't matter. Because that player is not Serral.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 05 2020 09:38 GMT
#33
Other because the player is "Zerg"
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KiLim51337113
Profile Joined June 2021
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June 19 2021 15:03 GMT
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