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WCS Group of Death?

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Vinand
Profile Joined September 2012
Netherlands159 Posts
November 09 2012 02:32 GMT
#1
This tweet by Idra says it all: "guess i shouldntve talked so much shit about blizzard."
TimKim0713
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)221 Posts
November 09 2012 02:35 GMT
#2
gogo koreans :D
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
November 09 2012 02:42 GMT
#3
idra > moonglade? i guess these polls are a popularity contest...
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KyoRai
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States134 Posts
November 09 2012 02:49 GMT
#4
On November 09 2012 11:42 Advantageous wrote:
idra > moonglade? i guess these polls are a popularity contest...


Maybe it's my bias but RorO's name makes me think he's a threat in zvz, but maybe he's not since it's sc2. And I think people aren't saying idra > moonglade, just idra's position sucks being between HerO and stephano.
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CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
November 09 2012 02:57 GMT
#5
voted for D because Rain is going to kill 'em all
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24Brava
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada1 Post
November 09 2012 03:16 GMT
#6
Almost voted H, because Creator is awesome, mOOnGLaDe went fairly far in MLG and Scarlett/Nerchio are both great in their own respects, but really, they don't compare to Stephano and HerO... and of course RorO's not a pushover either. IdrA's good too.

Is anyone else lol'ing at the fact that there are 15 Zergs, 13 Protoss and... four Terrans? It's guaranteed by the divisions that four Zergs and two Protoss move on, and there are only four Terrans to begin with... guess we're about to see how OP Terran really is.
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mhael
Profile Joined January 2012
United States102 Posts
November 09 2012 03:16 GMT
#7
Idra should be alright - he is zerg!! Learn to play infestor BL and you will own terran and toss, and well.... good luck with zvz.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
November 09 2012 03:36 GMT
#8
go curious and RorO!
rip prime
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 03:51:34
November 09 2012 03:47 GMT
#9
Man this sucks, Scarlett was NA's virtually only hope at making a decent run in the tournament, and she got completely fucked by groups.

And seriously group H is way harder than group E. Hero Stephano and Roro is not better than Nerchio, Scarlett and Creator.
basically has Best foreigner (although some would say nerchio is better lately), upper range korean, and hit or miss Kespa player vs Next 2 best foreigners and best korean protoss.
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RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1057 Posts
November 09 2012 04:30 GMT
#10
Group H is strong all-around, but only has one Korean and DRG just picked him (Creator) first in the Code S nominations. Somebody must think Creator has weak PvZ. Group E has HerO and RorO + the best foreigner (usually). IdrA is serviceable as a 4th. So E got my vote.
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SimoNostalgia
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States226 Posts
November 09 2012 05:01 GMT
#11
it was between Group E and H for me
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Ryler
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovenia370 Posts
November 09 2012 05:14 GMT
#12
a group with Idra can't be a group of death, fanboys gonna fanboy.
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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 09 2012 05:50 GMT
#13
Group E it is for me. I feel so bad for HerO, hope he will go through with this broken match-up
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
November 09 2012 06:03 GMT
#14
I hope it will be beneficial to HerO that the rest of his group is all Zerg. Hope he is practicing a lot.
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Linog[e]
Profile Joined April 2012
59 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 06:08:25
November 09 2012 06:08 GMT
#15
E and H gonna be sick
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mr.grimm
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden63 Posts
November 09 2012 06:20 GMT
#16
Between E and H, went with E.
Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
November 09 2012 07:11 GMT
#17
On November 09 2012 11:42 Advantageous wrote:
idra > moonglade? i guess these polls are a popularity contest...

Yeah..Idra being in that group has nothing to do with why its the group of death...It's a little more about the whole Stephano, HerO, Roro thing..Idra is just an after thought in a group like that.
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Homework
Profile Joined December 2010
United States283 Posts
November 09 2012 07:57 GMT
#18
Who will make it out of group E? That's the thing. Stephano and....? Hero and...?
Group H has some clear winners (Nerchio, Creator)
Tamburlaine
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
November 09 2012 08:07 GMT
#19
Voted E...

... but I think Parting's gonna come out on top in the end.
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Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
November 09 2012 08:07 GMT
#20
It's close, since not only Rain is going to be destroying everyone but mOOnGLaDe, Scarlett, Nerchio and Creator are all great players. I'd say it's Stephano/IdrA/RorO/HerO though, by a narrow margin, since RorO/HerO are Koreans who are fairly high up there, IdrA's alright (my bets is he won't make it through though) and Stephano often does well against Koreans.
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markrevival
Profile Joined January 2012
United States222 Posts
November 09 2012 08:17 GMT
#21
after Moonglades MLG performance, along with my insistance that Nerchio is solid Code S material, it has to be group H. Korean Champion Creator and the best NA player, Scarlett rounding out the group. Definitely the sickest group
Jelleyicious
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia16 Posts
November 09 2012 08:19 GMT
#22
Although i think E has the overall best quality, i think the top 2 is quite predictable, whereas group H is very hard to tell. Anyone in group H can make it out given. Also interesting how group H is probably 3rd 4th and 5th best foreigner zergs, all in one group.
Cor_Malek
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland61 Posts
November 09 2012 08:36 GMT
#23
C, F and H all seem harder than E.

You guys just wait until Grubby Weibo's about it, and HuK activates the inner 14-yo...
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Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
November 09 2012 08:51 GMT
#24
So, I like to do my own predictions of tournaments.. I ended up with only 1 korean in Ro8 (RorO) and top 4 is zergs.
RiPPy
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway23 Posts
November 09 2012 09:16 GMT
#25
Any group with IdrA is not a group of death, cmon guys!
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4403 Posts
November 09 2012 09:38 GMT
#26
F is by far the group of death can't believe it's doing so bad... Major and Titan are tip top foreigners. Besides Stephano and Nerchio I'd call them about equal or better than any other foreigner here. Curious is the 2nd or 3rd best player (Rain 1st Parting/Curious 2nd and 3rd) here and then the last player is the kespa herO who is the 5th probably the 5th best player here behind those 3 and Creator.
NiHiLuSsc2
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States50 Posts
November 09 2012 10:32 GMT
#27
Idra vs Stephano... Match for the ages, for sure
PBJT
bigjmachine
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States314 Posts
November 09 2012 10:33 GMT
#28
Creator is going to beast that group
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Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
November 09 2012 11:28 GMT
#29
Stephano > Nerchio
HerO < Creator
Idra > moonglade
RorO > Scarlett

3 for 1 gotta go with group E
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CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
November 09 2012 11:31 GMT
#30
The worst thing about group E, if you go through as second place you will face Rain in the Ro16....
badeanden
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway56 Posts
November 09 2012 11:37 GMT
#31
Stephano will not get out of group play. zvz is his worst match-up, so he will loose against RorO, and Hero will all-inn him 3 times and he will loose in 2 of them. Called it
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nemahsys
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada457 Posts
November 09 2012 12:39 GMT
#32
the players in idras group get free wins...how is that a group of death?
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lordofsoup
Profile Joined January 2012
United States159 Posts
November 09 2012 12:45 GMT
#33
G and B are unfair. There is no way that the groups should be that imbalanced in terms of player skill. They are just so much better than the competition. Oh wait...
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
November 09 2012 12:48 GMT
#34
On November 09 2012 11:42 Advantageous wrote:
idra > moonglade? i guess these polls are a popularity contest...

We need to accept the fact that this polls were always popularity contests.I think H is group of death.
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ZeBigMarn
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia30 Posts
November 09 2012 13:15 GMT
#35
Mafia has a good shot with his good ZvP and only having to practise the one matchup, but as we've all seen Rain is just a beast and BabyKnight is Mr. Consistant so who knows. GLHF everyone.
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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
November 09 2012 13:39 GMT
#36
Before the tournament has even begun, there are as many if not more Zergs in the Ro16 as there are Terrans.
MundisV
Profile Joined July 2012
Lithuania8 Posts
November 09 2012 14:26 GMT
#37
The lineup doesn't really represent "the world" well in the finals :/
Thruth
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland112 Posts
November 09 2012 14:37 GMT
#38
On November 09 2012 23:26 MundisV wrote:
The lineup doesn't really represent "the world" well in the finals :/


How is it supposed to represent "the world" better?
psychopat
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada417 Posts
November 09 2012 14:38 GMT
#39
Except for Idra, E is looking very stacked.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 14:38:41
November 09 2012 14:38 GMT
#40
my group predictions
A: Parting, Illusion
B:Vortix, suppy
C:Grubby, Sen
D:Rain, Babyknight
E: Stephano, Idra (such a hard group to pick because you can swap out players so easily, but going with the popular guys/ my favorite team in esports :D)
F:Curious, Major
G: Lucifron, Lowely
H:Nerchio, Scarlett


Looks like fun!
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
November 09 2012 15:01 GMT
#41
I can't believe 2 of the 4 terrans are in the same group. This tournament is gonna suck past the ro16.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
November 09 2012 15:04 GMT
#42
Group H, then Group E close behind
mostevil
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom611 Posts
November 09 2012 15:16 GMT
#43
On November 09 2012 11:42 Advantageous wrote:
idra > moonglade? i guess these polls are a popularity contest...

Maybe for some but I chose that group as the toughest because of the rest of the group... They should all smush him on any normal day.
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
November 09 2012 15:53 GMT
#44
On November 09 2012 11:42 Advantageous wrote:
idra > moonglade? i guess these polls are a popularity contest...

How about considering the rest of the group?
Refer to my post.
NighTerra
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia13 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 15:56:19
November 09 2012 15:54 GMT
#45
On November 10 2012 00:01 Shinespark wrote:
I can't believe 2 of the 4 terrans are in the same group. This tournament is gonna suck past the ro16.


Pray that Lucifron can break out of his group and run deep into the tournament. I can't see Illusion or Major lasting past the Ro16. Otherwise, it's going to be another ZvP, ZvZ funfest.

On the other hand, I chose H. Korean Champ, best player in NA, 2nd best player in EU, and best player in SEA.

And fyi, Moonglade > Idra.
executorx
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany81 Posts
November 09 2012 16:33 GMT
#46
Group H: Creator vs zerg :D
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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
November 09 2012 16:56 GMT
#47
I actually think Group F is going to be interesting, and close.
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jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
November 09 2012 17:20 GMT
#48
Group E: who'll get RorOlled this time?
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
November 09 2012 17:20 GMT
#49
Group H seems to be the most difficult to predict in my opinion.
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monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
November 09 2012 17:32 GMT
#50
Poor Scarlett. I dont give her much chances to advance.
@ggmonx
Interstellar
Profile Joined May 2012
Mexico67 Posts
November 09 2012 17:51 GMT
#51
I believe Scarlett has beat Nerchio recently, but to be mixed in with Creator, Nerchio and Moonglade. That's a tall order. Rain has been looking a little shaky lately. If he can return to his prominence of last month then he can probably take this tournament.
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wfire
Profile Joined June 2012
25 Posts
November 09 2012 17:57 GMT
#52
On November 09 2012 11:42 Advantageous wrote:
idra > moonglade? i guess these polls are a popularity contest...

There is also hero and the best foreign player...plus idea did well at the last mlg
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 09 2012 18:07 GMT
#53
E & H by far
mhael
Profile Joined January 2012
United States102 Posts
November 09 2012 18:11 GMT
#54
Nothing comes close to the ro16 group of death of Life, Leenock, Symbol, Soulkey..... unreal.
tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 18:20:24
November 09 2012 18:15 GMT
#55
...Hero's tweet says it all: "My WCS group is..........oh my god"

I feel bad for him T_T WHO DECIDES THESE THINGS?!

Calling it right now, the final is going to be ZvZ or by some miracle ZvT. (Protoss never wins. T____T)
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MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
November 09 2012 18:26 GMT
#56
E and H are ridiculous. Much harder than the other groups.
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
November 09 2012 18:43 GMT
#57
Voted E based on the skill of all players combined.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
November 09 2012 18:50 GMT
#58
who would've guessed that there would be no korean terrans in the biggest tournament of all? oO
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
November 09 2012 19:00 GMT
#59
how the hell does C have more votes than F?
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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
November 09 2012 19:01 GMT
#60
On November 10 2012 03:26 MCXD wrote:
E and H are ridiculous. Much harder than the other groups.

E, H, and F... F is just as hard no doubt.
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Dudasc
Profile Joined October 2012
Brazil286 Posts
November 09 2012 19:10 GMT
#61
group H is the obvious group of death.. its just a bunch of idra/stephano fans voting for group E
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4403 Posts
November 09 2012 19:18 GMT
#62
On November 10 2012 03:15 tMomiji wrote:
...Hero's tweet says it all: "My WCS group is..........oh my god"

I feel bad for him T_T WHO DECIDES THESE THINGS?!

Calling it right now, the final is going to be ZvZ or by some miracle ZvT. (Protoss never wins. T____T)


lol... Protoss never wins except WCS Korea, WCS Asia, GSL S3, WCG Korea, TSL4, and OSL. That's just in the last few months. Protoss as a race has done the best this year and during the summer they absolutely dominated. For the year overall they might have slightly less first places than zerg but they have more of the absolute top quality tournament wins than any other race and they have by far the most second places. This year they have 3 GSL second places and 2 MLG second places.
Garoodah
Profile Joined January 2012
United States56 Posts
November 09 2012 19:32 GMT
#63
Idra really got screwed for this tournament. But he did have better results at mlg, so perhalps he'll surprise us.
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trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
November 09 2012 19:44 GMT
#64
man, hero is gonna practice pvz like crazy
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Torra
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway469 Posts
November 09 2012 19:51 GMT
#65
I'd say that group E and H are about the same level of difficulty, but almost everyone in group E are big personalities and fan favourites and therefore they have more votes.
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 20:19:04
November 09 2012 20:14 GMT
#66
On November 09 2012 12:16 mhael wrote:
Idra should be alright - he is zerg!! Learn to play infestor BL and you will own terran and toss, and well.... good luck with zvz.

and more good luck to Stephano cause there are 2 other zergs in the group
Why in every poll about group of death there is no option, "There is no group of death"?
I think one of the hardest to predict is group H, I think Creator will get out, but who else, no idea
For group E, I go with Koreans, so Hero and RorO, safe bet these Koreans
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Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
November 09 2012 20:54 GMT
#67
Quite obvious that HerO and Stephano will advance from group E, ill have to agree with the caster on group H as my favorite group to watch.. and since its the tight groups that are interesting.... i'd also say its a group of death
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CabbageFace
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden9 Posts
November 09 2012 21:05 GMT
#68
Group E is just insain.. GL IdrA you will need it in that group!
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
November 09 2012 21:23 GMT
#69
SO bad groups ......

E and H could be top8 ...
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 21:25:50
November 09 2012 21:25 GMT
#70
4 terrans in tournament, 2 in 1 group .............

On November 10 2012 05:54 Fizzy wrote:
Quite obvious that HerO and Stephano will advance from group E, ill have to agree with the caster on group H as my favorite group to watch.. and since its the tight groups that are interesting.... i'd also say its a group of death


well "obvious" ? roro's zvp seems way stronger then heros pvz sry to say but ...
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bloodyrooster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States15 Posts
November 09 2012 21:53 GMT
#71
I hope Scarlett can get out of her group. Creator will be tough.
Timmsh
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 00:24:51
November 10 2012 00:24 GMT
#72
Whoops, voted F because i confused hero over Hero T.T
MinimalistSC2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
November 10 2012 01:23 GMT
#73
Group F anybody?
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evenaq
Profile Joined September 2012
5 Posts
November 10 2012 02:55 GMT
#74
well i guess stephano would win this poll even if he was alone in his group...
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
November 10 2012 02:59 GMT
#75
HerO you cutiepie!
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Atlas247
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada318 Posts
November 10 2012 03:16 GMT
#76
H is worse than E. I fee like this is an obvious one and people are just being bias.
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ProfessionalNoob
Profile Joined October 2012
United States75 Posts
November 10 2012 07:11 GMT
#77
Creaaatorrrrr. Then again, Stephano and HerO are also really good. I think the top 2 are honestly pretty much even.
BoB_KiLLeR
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain620 Posts
November 10 2012 07:51 GMT
#78
It's clearly group E.

But I voted group B because of Zerg.
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 08:52:04
November 10 2012 08:49 GMT
#79
On November 10 2012 06:53 bloodyrooster wrote:
I hope Scarlett can get out of her group. Creator will be tough.

I agree, because he has to practice for his GSL RO16 group play vs DRG and Curious.
And I think that DRG picked Creator not because he is weak, but because he wanted a protoss, and Creator was only protoss.
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AsAr
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany52 Posts
November 10 2012 08:52 GMT
#80
almost went for group F... but Stephano, HerO and RorO are just too good to not be voted as the group of death. I also like Nerchio and Creator, definately gonna enjoy group H!
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
November 10 2012 09:32 GMT
#81
On November 09 2012 11:42 Advantageous wrote:
idra > moonglade? i guess these polls are a popularity contest...



Idra < Moonglade
Hero < Creator
Stephano > Nerchio
Roro >>> Scarlett

Still makes it Group E for me.
laerteis
Profile Joined August 2012
United States78 Posts
November 10 2012 09:36 GMT
#82
sadly I couldn't care less about WCS. I have never been more nonplussed by a player list.
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GONIX
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands8 Posts
November 10 2012 10:30 GMT
#83
Pool of death is group H

group E is already decided lol...idra and stephano proceed
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ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
November 10 2012 11:15 GMT
#84
That's a no-brainer. Group E has 3 title contenders...
sunless
Profile Joined November 2011
62 Posts
November 10 2012 11:31 GMT
#85
RorO vs Stephano should make great games, considering Stephano and RorO have both this sense of taking the right fight in the right position. Even though Stephano ZvZ has improved, RorO seems to be the better ZvZer at the moment.

What happens btw if three players finish with a 2-1 record? Are ties broken with numbers of maps?
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bilow
Profile Joined December 2009
Latvia25 Posts
November 10 2012 12:23 GMT
#86
And match-up of the tournaments is... what a surprise ZvZ
bilow
Profile Joined December 2009
Latvia25 Posts
November 10 2012 12:34 GMT
#87
Tournament looks very similar to wcg back in the days when brood war was the sh..t. It doesn't mean these are the best players. It means that everyone had a fair chance getting there. And what we get is:
7 Koreans (any less - we would say tournament is shit, any more - foreigners have no chance)
6 USA Americans (wtf?)
2 Canadians (why not)
2 Australians (you would say wtf - but they had their own qualifier)
2 Spanish bros (deserved)
Rest are solo representatives. No Ukraine, no Sweden - surprise to me, but Europe finals were tough.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
November 10 2012 12:59 GMT
#88
Was torn between E and H, so I voted C.
LiangHao
Gianttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands194 Posts
November 10 2012 14:54 GMT
#89
Defenitely Scarlett, Nerchio and Moonglade making the group of death here.
All have been doing well lately either result or achievement wise.

Next I would say the group with Killer, Sen and Grubby and as last Idra, Hero and Stephano
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Leberwurstbrot
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany144 Posts
November 10 2012 18:02 GMT
#90
On November 09 2012 11:42 Advantageous wrote:
idra > moonglade? i guess these polls are a popularity contest...


IdrA > moonglade
Hero = Creator
RorO >>> Scarlett
Stephano >> Nerchio

ez
TapetalKarma
Profile Joined May 2011
United States127 Posts
November 10 2012 19:17 GMT
#91
On November 09 2012 11:42 Advantageous wrote:
idra > moonglade? i guess these polls are a popularity contest...

or based off skill
seeing as how moonglades absolute sack compared to idra
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
November 10 2012 19:26 GMT
#92
On November 11 2012 04:17 TapetalKarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 11:42 Advantageous wrote:
idra > moonglade? i guess these polls are a popularity contest...

or based off skill
seeing as how moonglades absolute sack compared to idra


lol what? Did you not watch the recent MLG? Moonglade was one of the players who tied for #2 foreigner(along with Scarlett and Suppy) and Moonglade didn't even have an easy road to get there too. Winning against players like Revival and MC, what did IdrA do? P.S the answer is lose.

To say Moonglade doesn't compare to IdrA is not only a joke, but it's quite the opposite. IdrA doesn't compare to Moonglade at this time.
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Cassalina
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States65 Posts
November 10 2012 21:28 GMT
#93
moonglade is def top tier...and just like the battle.net seeding video said - moonglade is def an underrated player. i don't think he minds that at all less pressure, and he does really well when there's no pressure on him. been following him since the war3 days :D idra is awesome too! but we all know that ZZ can go either way - will be interesting to see who does better in their respective groups (which have pretty good z players)

i'd say moonglade's zz is better than idra's - but idra has a tougher challenge from stephano, than scarlett would give (even though scarlett is very very skilled).

group e is gonna be a very difficult group! sucks that all the top playes are pitted against eachother, but, should be fun to watch nonetheless!

going for suppy in this one! but i think stephano or rain are gonna take the cake in the end...
"advance solidly, fight solidly"
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
November 10 2012 22:21 GMT
#94
group H, wow I wouid be scared....
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cronichazel
Profile Joined May 2012
United States81 Posts
November 11 2012 04:46 GMT
#95
Group H is nuts

and then Group A then Group E
ErAsc2
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden256 Posts
November 11 2012 09:31 GMT
#96
Group G definetly. damn.
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Crazyahmed
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 11:20:16
November 11 2012 11:20 GMT
#97
i think scarlett has a ok chance to advance here, her ZvZ seems solid as are here other matchups. My money is still on Nerchio and Creator though
tiredtowin
Profile Joined September 2012
Russian Federation9 Posts
November 11 2012 13:50 GMT
#98
lol. Does group C really stronger than group F....
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
November 11 2012 14:55 GMT
#99
Stephano/Hero group clearly the hardest.

Also, normally I would rather claw my eyes out with rusty forks than sit through a zvz, but I cant wait to see Nerchio vs Scarlett.
Patate
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada441 Posts
November 11 2012 19:34 GMT
#100
Not as impressing as GSL's groups.. I'll go for Group E which has 3 good players (and IdrA).
Dead game.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4403 Posts
November 11 2012 20:17 GMT
#101
On November 11 2012 22:50 tiredtowin wrote:
lol. Does group C really stronger than group F....


None of the groups are stronger than F. You just have to accept that people vote for names in these polls rather than which group is actually the strongest.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 12 2012 00:27 GMT
#102
Definitely between E and H, with my preference towards H. I mean Stephano and HerO are great and all, but H is more balanced in terms in skill and I find it more "group of death"-y because of that.
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ColA-
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada66 Posts
November 12 2012 00:36 GMT
#103
Idra is sexy
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
November 12 2012 06:09 GMT
#104
sucks that scarlett and nerchio are in the same group, being teammates and all.
H is super strong.
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SC_Fenris
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark3 Posts
November 12 2012 09:33 GMT
#105
Yeees so proud to see a dane among the final 32!
Don't think he'll make it far, but i'll be cheering for him anyway, gogo BabyKnight!!
SC_Fenris
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark3 Posts
November 12 2012 09:35 GMT
#106
Btw @vultdylan, most awesome quote i've ever seen a TL user have... That game was the funniest shit ever :D
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
November 12 2012 10:16 GMT
#107
Holy smokes this is going to be good! Group E and H looks sicksicksick!.. Hope for another great tourney for mOOnGLaDe! ~
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
November 12 2012 10:54 GMT
#108
Weird someone voted for group other than E and H, and maybe F. Group C? Sen wasn't that impressive at WCS Asia, Grubby is solid but not death calliber and HuK hasn't confirmed getting back in form.
MarinePromKing
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden3 Posts
November 12 2012 16:14 GMT
#109
Hoping that m00nGLaDe will get som A-Stream air. Really enjoyed his play in qualifiers.
LordSubtle
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada25 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 19:30:42
November 12 2012 19:28 GMT
#110
On November 09 2012 20:31 CrazyBirdman wrote:
The worst thing about group E, if you go through as second place you will face Rain in the Ro16....


Haha exactly, i voted E but Rain has been on fire...I'd love to see HerO get his revenge on rain for gsl
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
November 12 2012 20:00 GMT
#111
idra touched by the finger of death T.T
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
November 12 2012 21:05 GMT
#112
This is pretty much a no brainer... The only group that has three possible winners ie Stephano, Roro or HerO.
Creator and Nerchio will win their group, and as with group H all the others have clear top two favourites Z_z;:
Group C's results could be interesting
Desertfaux
Profile Joined June 2012
Netherlands276 Posts
November 12 2012 22:03 GMT
#113
Voted G, you can never go wrong with insur and levin
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sNcPuma
Profile Joined June 2011
United States6 Posts
November 13 2012 02:58 GMT
#114
Stephano to win it all :D
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Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
November 13 2012 13:44 GMT
#115
I take it the group E hero is liquidHero?
If so then Idra is the only player in that group whos not scary as hell.
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astray71
Profile Joined February 2012
United States325 Posts
November 13 2012 14:09 GMT
#116
I hope HerO gets back into being awesome at PvZ. Didn't he say that he was having a hard time with zergs like a month or two ago?
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xJochem
Profile Joined January 2012
United States5 Posts
November 13 2012 14:10 GMT
#117
It was definite tossup between group E and H. I choose group E because I feel that RorO, HerO or Stephano all have a great shot at winning the tournament. Idra isn't a threat to the group really but he could pull off an upset.

Group H is pretty strong but I think you have a clear group winner in Creator and it will be a scrap for second but I think Nerchio will take it.
xJochem
Profile Joined January 2012
United States5 Posts
November 13 2012 14:11 GMT
#118
On November 13 2012 22:44 Blacktion wrote:
I take it the group E hero is liquidHero?
If so then Idra is the only player in that group whos not scary as hell.


Yea its Liquid HerO
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
November 13 2012 18:50 GMT
#119
lol people overrating Nerchio.

Group E easily the group of death.
Billinator
Profile Joined July 2012
United States86 Posts
November 13 2012 22:19 GMT
#120
group of death with idra in it?? no. Creator, scarlett, nerchio, and moonglade are all very scary players. definitley group H
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phalanx
Profile Joined November 2011
France43 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 03:36:28
November 14 2012 03:35 GMT
#121
At the first look I though that the group F was underestimated but the more I compare the groups the more I am uncertain. Hopefully we'll see a pool analysis on TL soon enough but I think it's well balanced.

Idra and Stephano in the same pool, I would pay to see the atmosphere in the EG house right now. I am french and love Stephano but I really would like to see Idra beating his ass and make a great come back, people treated him so unfairly.
knowledge is like jam, the less you have the more you spread.
phalanx
Profile Joined November 2011
France43 Posts
November 14 2012 03:38 GMT
#122
On November 12 2012 05:17 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 22:50 tiredtowin wrote:
lol. Does group C really stronger than group F....


None of the groups are stronger than F. You just have to accept that people vote for names in these polls rather than which group is actually the strongest.


Yea group F looks stronger to me too, you are not alone !
knowledge is like jam, the less you have the more you spread.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 05:23:10
November 14 2012 05:21 GMT
#123
It's..... not even close.

I hear you hipsters talking about H, but F, but no, it really is E. C is oddly high though, probably because of fanboys.
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wiz0floyd
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1 Post
November 14 2012 19:44 GMT
#124
I considered for voting for group C because of Killer. Get it????
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 20:33:36
November 14 2012 20:30 GMT
#125
Hah, correctly predicted the top 3.

On November 14 2012 14:21 tree.hugger wrote:
It's..... not even close.

I hear you hipsters talking about H, but F, but no, it really is E. C is oddly high though, probably because of fanboys.


Probably because group C is high in the list and grabs your attention first. Most groups aren't noteworthy otherwise.
JtoK
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany232 Posts
November 14 2012 22:48 GMT
#126
Stephano vs The Koreans :D
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 15 2012 07:34 GMT
#127
imagine if IdrA wins his group.

I love crazymoving
suksori
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)11 Posts
November 15 2012 12:51 GMT
#128
Group E is so sick...
Happa
Profile Joined January 2012
Russian Federation6 Posts
November 15 2012 23:01 GMT
#129
GL RORO! <3
Saint-Petersburg
Zenniv
Profile Joined September 2011
United States545 Posts
November 15 2012 23:14 GMT
#130
Group E and H are very close. With almost equal net player skill levels.
Nerchio - Stephano
Creator- HerO
Scarlett- RorO
Moonglade - IdrA

With that said, I think creator is a bit better than HerO but RorO is a bit better than Scarlett.
Nerchio and Stephano are same.

With just IdrA and Moonglade left, I just think Moonglade is slightly better than IdrA. So group H.

I think most ppl voted E because it has more Koreans and has IdrA + Stephano...
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
November 16 2012 05:15 GMT
#131
Man, E and H are both pretty brutal.

Excited for this.
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HapLoG
Profile Joined February 2012
France1 Post
November 16 2012 13:24 GMT
#132
I agree with you Zenniv, H is slightly more THE death group than E.
tomaszot
Profile Joined November 2012
Poland3 Posts
November 16 2012 20:00 GMT
#133
On November 10 2012 21:34 bilow wrote:
Tournament looks very similar to wcg back in the days when brood war was the sh..t. It doesn't mean these are the best players. It means that everyone had a fair chance getting there. And what we get is:
7 Koreans (any less - we would say tournament is shit, any more - foreigners have no chance)
6 USA Americans (wtf?)
2 Canadians (why not)
2 Australians (you would say wtf - but they had their own qualifier)
2 Spanish bros (deserved)
Rest are solo representatives. No Ukraine, no Sweden - surprise to me, but Europe finals were tough.



That's because Nerchio is better than any Swedish/ Ukrainian player!!
I'LL BE BACK
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
November 16 2012 20:09 GMT
#134
Wow, C above F? Interesting.
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
November 17 2012 10:02 GMT
#135
Idra is back!
Idra will take it!
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Vinand
Profile Joined September 2012
Netherlands159 Posts
November 17 2012 22:04 GMT
#136
On November 09 2012 23:38 psychopat wrote:
Except for Idra, E is looking very stacked.


On November 09 2012 18:16 RiPPy wrote:
Any group with IdrA is not a group of death, cmon guys!


haters gonna hate...
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
November 17 2012 23:08 GMT
#137
Group E is so stacked, and IdrA looked pretty good last time we've seen him play no?
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
November 18 2012 14:20 GMT
#138
Don't the people that've said "IdrA = no group of death" look silly now? ;D
weabot
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada6 Posts
November 18 2012 18:12 GMT
#139
On November 09 2012 11:42 Advantageous wrote:
idra > moonglade? i guess these polls are a popularity contest...


stephano confirmed my choice. HerO is an awesome player. There's already 2 legends and IdrA is a really good player.
Cutlery
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway565 Posts
November 19 2012 15:05 GMT
#140
On November 09 2012 11:42 Advantageous wrote:
idra > moonglade? i guess these polls are a popularity contest...


Guess you have to take that back now, huehue
Kassploj
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden67 Posts
November 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#141
If you have to ask, there is no group of death. Simple as that.
PROPrototype
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada36 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 19:38:00
January 09 2013 19:36 GMT
#142
I love how HerO is on there twice but all the others are on once, he must be a one man army!
oh wait...
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