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YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
May 16 2012 17:35 GMT
#41
On May 16 2012 08:24 brokenLoL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 08:10 The Final Boss wrote:
On May 16 2012 08:00 brokenLoL wrote:
Squirtle's PvT is not that good as demonstrated in his loss to aLive at IPL

+ Show Spoiler +
Losing to aLive doesn't mean that you're somehow "not that good" at a match-up, especially one that aLive is super dominant at while you're playing on the other side of the world from where you are used to playing. At that event he also beat Bomber, MKP, MMA and aLive in a Bo3 (in the finals).

Then this GSL he's beaten MMA, Maru, and Taeja (granted as far as MMA and Taeja are concerned, I think that is their weakest match-up, but at the level of play that those guys are at "weakest match-up" doesn't mean bad).

That being said I think Mvp is still the favorite just because he has more experience and will be able to deal with pressure better, but at the same time in a match-up like TvP crazy stuff can happen. While skill becomes more and more of a factor the later you go, the early game of TvP can often come down to build order.


Didn't you read the article by Demuslim and incontrol? Protoss becomes significantly easier to play the later the game goes.


What he means is the mid game, and also just because two people say something doesn't mean that it is end all be all of the discussion.
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
IskarSC
Profile Joined April 2012
Bulgaria2 Posts
May 16 2012 17:56 GMT
#42
Squirtle all the way! Fighting!
GAFFELTRUCK
Profile Joined April 2011
13 Posts
May 16 2012 18:24 GMT
#43
Vote squirtle for a more evolved nickname! :D
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
May 16 2012 18:31 GMT
#44
SQUIRTLE!!!!



A part of me does want to see MVP get another title, but not this time.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
May 16 2012 19:10 GMT
#45
MVP won't be able to cheese his way out of a bo7. Sorry Terran/MVP fanboys but Squirtle is going to just pure outclass MVP. 4-0
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
May 16 2012 19:17 GMT
#46
On May 16 2012 07:58 plasmidghost wrote:
Come on Squirtle, it's time to evolve into Blstoise!

He'll have to evolve into Wartortle first.

Sorry, maybe next season! MVP fighting!
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
May 16 2012 19:26 GMT
#47
Squirtle is way better atm, so 4-2 for Squirtle.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
May 16 2012 20:09 GMT
#48
I'm really hoping that he doesn't actually change his ID. Changing ID is never a good thing..unless your ID is HopeTorture. If that's the case, change your ID ^^
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
Lord_Maximus
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark46 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 21:02:18
May 16 2012 21:01 GMT
#49
The colossus timing push meets the cheese, which will come out victorious?
Exya
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada54 Posts
May 16 2012 21:08 GMT
#50
Parting > Squirtly TvP, I believe in MVP!
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
May 16 2012 21:21 GMT
#51
On May 16 2012 08:14 NekoFlandre wrote:
Rooting for MVP here. He needs his third.


It would be his fourth GSL win. I am rooting for him as well.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
May 16 2012 21:36 GMT
#52
On May 16 2012 12:34 Befree wrote:
Do you guys remember the first GSTL final when Squirtle first faced MVP on Terminus? That was the best match I can remember seeing up to that point and still one of the greatest I've seen to this point. At a time when 2 base colossus seemed to be the only thing any protoss was doing, Squirtle came out with this amazing hallucination/immortal/high templar usage and slowly picked apart MVP's amazing macro in a long epic match, beating the greatest Terran in the world (only to lose the ace match to the greatest zerg in the world, sadly).

That single matchup completely renewed my excitement in the Protoss race and made me a Squirtle fan to this day. I have hopes that this final will be able to match the innovation and beauty of that great GSTL match. Even with how much respect both of these players are given for their skill, I still consider them to be underrated. Please be the greatest final ever!!

(GSTL Feb. 2011 Final, Match 8 is the game I'm talking about by the way)



I remember like it was yesterday. This was the only thing I'd ever bought a season ticket for just for Squirtle's GSTL run and the match vs mvp.


I feel like MVP probably remembers too and has a score to settle, which makes this all the more exciting.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
zumpy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States122 Posts
May 16 2012 21:36 GMT
#53
squirtle takes it. it's time to have another protoss gsl winner finally after so long
well won
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
May 16 2012 21:52 GMT
#54
Third time is a charm - time to chop down another StarTaleQ (Hype)Protoss! Go Mvp!!!
CrappyHippo
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada275 Posts
May 16 2012 21:56 GMT
#55
I don't like MVP cuz he cheeses to much. But he knows how to get the best of his opponents. That's why he is going to win.
Everlasting Starcraft
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
May 16 2012 22:51 GMT
#56
On May 17 2012 04:10 power-overwhelming wrote:
MVP won't be able to cheese his way out of a bo7. Sorry Terran/MVP fanboys but Squirtle is going to just pure outclass MVP. 4-0

Im pretty sure class isn't something MVP is lacking in sc2 man, those three GSL titles kinda proves a point. Squirtle might win sure, but one does not simply outclass MVP.
"NO" -Has
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
May 17 2012 00:22 GMT
#57
On May 16 2012 07:58 plasmidghost wrote:
Come on Squirtle, it's time to evolve into Blstoise!


this would be a better first post if you spelled blastoise right
My religion is Starcraft
NET
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States703 Posts
May 17 2012 01:57 GMT
#58
Squirtle all the way. Will be rooting for you. Plus his name is so awesome!
"Dark Templar are the saviors of the Protoss Race." -Artosis
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
May 17 2012 02:10 GMT
#59
I believe in Squirtle, because he just seems to bee playing really well, and MVP just seems to to win all his flip. And I dont think he can win against Squirtle just by doing cheesy counter builds against him.
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
May 17 2012 02:54 GMT
#60
On May 16 2012 07:58 plasmidghost wrote:
Come on Squirtle, it's time to evolve into Blstoise!


Blatant ignorance of Wartortle.
I disapprove.
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
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