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IEM Cologne Group of Death? - Page 2

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iKlutz
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom42 Posts
August 14 2011 23:15 GMT
#21
I voted for the MC/Idra/Kas/qt group, kas might come up big again like TSL seems as he knows who to prepare for, MC is MC and idra might still have some fight left in him, but none of them are really groups of death imo.
Her0 | MvP | Stephano
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
August 14 2011 23:18 GMT
#22
The group with Mana, Puma, Stephano and SaSe. No doubt!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
August 14 2011 23:21 GMT
#23
MC always makes death groups
Idra must be like "fuck I'm against MC AGAIN?!"
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#24
I don't see why so many people voted for group A. 3 months ago sure go ahead and call it the group of death but MC, Idra and Kas have all seen their play slip since then. Group D is definitely the toughest group as far as current form goes but even then I'm not quite sure it's a group of death. Ever since Flash, Jaedong and Bisu were all in the same OSL group everything else pales in comparison.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 14 2011 23:36 GMT
#25
Voted for Puma because the first group should be called "MC shits on everyone group"
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Neoattitude
Profile Joined April 2010
Guam172 Posts
August 14 2011 23:53 GMT
#26
MC, Idra, and Kas in one group. That's the group of death. IDK how else anyone can argue thar
NEgroidZerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States244 Posts
August 14 2011 23:58 GMT
#27
Ya'll are crazy Nerchio is a BEAST
Yeah
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 15 2011 00:16 GMT
#28
Seems like quite a few people are not aware how good Mana and Stephano actually are. I wouldn't be surprised if Puma doesn't manage to finish first.

On August 15 2011 08:08 Accidentus wrote:
Pool D. People are voting Pool A because IdrA's overrated.

No, people are voting Pool A because of the perceived Idra vs MC rivalry and are not looking at current form (both Idra and MC slumping) but at overall past results (i.e. two of the top 5 most decorated players).
Nfi
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States357 Posts
August 15 2011 00:19 GMT
#29
MC is not in group A he isn't even in the tournament...
"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person, give man a mask, and he will tell you the truth."
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 15 2011 00:28 GMT
#30
On August 15 2011 09:19 Nfi wrote:
MC is not in group A he isn't even in the tournament...

Replaced MKP like people have said 5 times.

Even though MC is slumping a bit in korea, if he plays anything like he did at NASL finals he will destroy his group so hard, bit of a mismatch TBH. So group of death is deifnitely D.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
August 15 2011 01:01 GMT
#31
Puma group by faaaaar
MC about equal to Puma judging solely from NASL and MC's current struggles.
Mana, stephano, and sase are at least equal to kas/idra if not above a level. Beastyqt don't know much about him but judging by his recent record, he isn't on the same level as the other 5.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 15 2011 01:01 GMT
#32
Puma, Mana, Stephano, Sase.. by far!

I mean... Puma obviously Korean, NASL winner, favourite not only of this group, but of the entire tournament, but...

Stephano: top 3 EU (and possibly EU+NA) zerg - only competition for him is Dimaga, Idra, Morrow, Nerchio, Sen and Ret. But, recent form is in favor of Stephano, only Ret and Dimaga may be better right now. I saw him @ Assembly summer, really genius play, falling only to Dimaga in best ZvZ I saw in pretty long time. I wouldn't be surprised if he toke a game from Puma, maybe even whole set!

Next up - SaSe: Great player, practicing in Korea for last week, surely he has learned something in that week. Also, he is great overall and he could fight for the top spot in any other group, but this one I don't think so... But we will see, he is surely capable of taking games off his opponents.

And last but not least - MaNa: He's in such great form lately, second at Assembly, third at IPL (although I don't know when were these games played), already qualified for IEM China... And he is the best Protoss in the EU/NA in PvT imho (yes, even better than HuK/Naniwa) fully capable of beating Korean terran (MaNa vs Nada anyone?). If Puma won't play 1-1-1 vs him, I just don't think he could lose. This will be "upset" for many, not for me though. Of course, 1-1-1 (with no mistakes from terran) can't be defended, so it's up to Puma if he decides to play fair games or just win...

So yeah... group of death it is.
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Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
August 15 2011 01:26 GMT
#33
It was hard to pick one. The pools look balanced to me.
samd
Profile Joined July 2011
United States77 Posts
August 15 2011 01:30 GMT
#34
How the hell is the MC-Idra group ahead of "Puma, Mana, Stephano, Sase"??? I can't understand it at all.
wat
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
August 15 2011 01:38 GMT
#35
On August 15 2011 08:58 NEgroidZerg wrote:
Ya'll are crazy Nerchio is a BEAST


Exactly. Group C = group of death!
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
August 15 2011 01:46 GMT
#36
These pools are wrong....
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
August 15 2011 01:54 GMT
#37
Mana AND Stephano?! SHIT JUST GOT REAL. Both have been playing so super lately, adding PuMa and SaSe with his new found Korean experiences, for sure going to be the group of death.
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
ZergMaestro
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
August 15 2011 02:05 GMT
#38
None are really groups of death I see a clear winner in all of them select, MC etc.
Ma Jae Yoon #1. The ONLY Maestro. Effort.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 15 2011 02:18 GMT
#39
On August 15 2011 10:30 samd wrote:
How the hell is the MC-Idra group ahead of "Puma, Mana, Stephano, Sase"??? I can't understand it at all.


Because Kas and Beastyqt are not worth noting to you?

corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 02:34:36
August 15 2011 02:34 GMT
#40
mc is going to roflstomp everyone in pool A, most likely 2-0, so if you mean death in the sense that all the white dudes are gonna get murdered, then i agree

in all other respects its puma's group
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