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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
February 18 2010 19:53 GMT
#41
Wow last year's winner is getting 11% of the votes... I know there are circumstances but still wow.
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Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
February 18 2010 20:32 GMT
#42
believe in jf :>
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
February 18 2010 20:51 GMT
#43
I voted jf. I think him or Nony will win.
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kernl
Profile Joined October 2008
84 Posts
February 18 2010 21:23 GMT
#44
One of the zergs, hopefully Mondragon!
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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
February 18 2010 21:26 GMT
#45
nony. no doubt
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GoAudio
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden400 Posts
February 18 2010 21:39 GMT
#46
NONY!
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BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
February 18 2010 21:47 GMT
#47
my inner fanboy says mondragon, but realistically speaking NonY has the best chance of taking 1st.
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airtown
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States410 Posts
February 18 2010 21:50 GMT
#48
sen - only one who can get through ret, will win this
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 18 2010 22:06 GMT
#49
So many people said Sen, but nony still has 3x+ the amount of votes lol...
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
February 18 2010 22:08 GMT
#50
On February 18 2010 18:11 Ash wrote:
If Sen gets past Mondragon then he will win it. Otherwise, Nony will.


Yeah I think sen can take nony, but it would definitely be a great series if they meet.
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 18 2010 22:26 GMT
#51
I don't think JF will win. Even if he gets past Nony, PvZ is his worst match-up, so he'll most likely lose to Mondragon or Sen.

As for Nony, assuming he beats JF, he has a decent chance because his PvZ is quite good. Unfortunately for Nony, both Mondragon and Sen are very good at ZvP, so it's not going to be easy by any means.

Mondragon vs. Sen is hard to call. Both have good ZvZ, and Sen proved that he has enough game sense to beat Ret. Normally that'd make him my favorite, but Mondragon has shown that he's in top shape, so it's a toss-up.

Let's assign some numbers to it.

Nony vs. JF: 60% Nony, 40% JF
JF vs. Sen/Mondragon: JF 40%, Sen/Mondragon 60%
Mondragon vs. Sen: 50% Mondragon, 50% Sen
Nony vs. Mondragon/Sen: 50% Nony, 50% Mondragon/Sen

Chance of Nony winning: 0.6 * 0.5 = 0.3 = 30%
Chance of Mondragon winning: 0.5 * (0.6 * 0.5 + 0.4 * 0.6) = 27%
Chance of Sen winning: 0.5 * (0.6 * 0.5 + 0.4 * 0.6) = 27%
Chance of JF winning: 0.4 * 0.4 = 16%

As you can see, Nony is the favorite under these assumptions.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
February 18 2010 22:41 GMT
#52
nony
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
February 18 2010 22:48 GMT
#53
my heart says mondi, my brain says nony
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ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
February 18 2010 23:17 GMT
#54
If Mondragon gets past SEn, he will beat NonY or JF. JF playing good, but his PvZ is terrible compared to his other mus. NonY's mechanical play is ok, but he relied on some cheesy builds to even get this far, I don't like his chances vs even JF.
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Tarmak_mk
Profile Joined May 2004
Macedonia410 Posts
February 18 2010 23:38 GMT
#55
haha mondragon will win this easy. because his zvz and zvp are really pro! mondi's zvz style its better then SEn.
OctoberZerg
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
February 18 2010 23:51 GMT
#56
Hoping nony, but probably sen
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 18 2010 23:59 GMT
#57
i voted for mondragon though i'd like to see either of the tosses pull through
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 19 2010 00:13 GMT
#58
MONDRAGON
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numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
February 19 2010 00:23 GMT
#59
JF will take it down.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 19 2010 00:29 GMT
#60
Nony or Sen are the favorites for sure...
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