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Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
December 29 2009 20:40 GMT
#61
On December 29 2009 14:37 Ideas wrote:
I really hope Calm plans something special for Flash instead of the whole "I'm just going to go 3-hatch and die" that every other Zerg has done lately vs him.


Power is your Intelligence
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
December 29 2009 20:59 GMT
#62
Flash vs BeSt obviously.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
December 29 2009 21:02 GMT
#63
Movie/Shine is the most exciting to me, but I'm slightly curious about Flash's TvP
Trucy Wright is hot
shurgen
Profile Joined October 2009
350 Posts
December 29 2009 22:47 GMT
#64
If anyone is going to take down Flash... its best
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 29 2009 23:00 GMT
#65
Flash vs. BeSt: red-hot PvT vs. red-hot in general

a matchup that is long, long overdue!
✌
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
December 30 2009 00:14 GMT
#66
Very hard. I picked Shine vs Movie because Movie beat Zero who is good zvp, and Shine beat Stork who is amazing in general, and he's beaten Bisu and whatnot. Just want to see who comes out on top, a hard match to predict imo. Flash vs Calm should be neat because Calm was doing fairly well previously, and Flash is a monster. Watching Flash play the way he does is always neat, but a closer match would probably be more entertaining. Same thing vs Best, except atleast Calm is decent.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
December 30 2009 00:25 GMT
#67
On December 30 2009 00:34 DyEnasTy wrote:
Is it true Best has a 100% win rate vs Flash?


Flash is 0-3 vs Best.

That being said they have all been Bo1's so it's not in any way indicative of how a Bo5 series will go between the two of them. With that being said I give the advantage to Flash and his experience with such series.

It helps Flash is playing amazing too.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Groslouser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
France337 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 00:51:13
December 30 2009 00:45 GMT
#68
Assuming best plays at his top level it could be a fuckin awesome serie. however it'll be tough for him, i expect flash to win this
Abyzou
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden209 Posts
December 30 2009 04:02 GMT
#69
BEST FIGHTING
Savior and Jaedong, how come zerg progamers are so awesome?
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
December 30 2009 05:31 GMT
#70
Flash vs anyone

voted flash vs best
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3161 Posts
December 30 2009 05:41 GMT
#71
Just curious, who does these polls in the sidebar? I have a poll I would like to suggest.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
December 30 2009 06:05 GMT
#72
In a way I think that shine vs movie will produce the most interesting games, but flash vs best will have a BIG extra excitement factor because this is the (atm) best player being tested in his weakest matchup it will just be so freaking exciting to watch, since unlike his tvt/tvz his tvp might still be a bit shaky.
If he wins this then I'm confident he can win both titles.
Flash vs Calm and Jaedong vs Stats should definitely be rather one-sided (as great as calm is) and hopefully light vs kwanro will be as well
It will definitely be nice to see light in the semis, if kwanro takes that away from me ill lose my mind.
Hwasin vs Kal could definitely produce some very interesting games though I expect Hwasins TvP to fail once more.
beep boop
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
December 30 2009 06:32 GMT
#73
Flash vs. Calm, easily. The two best all-around players in the OSL, whoever wins it should win the whole shebang and will cement their legacy.

Seriously, Calm wins this OSL and he's royal road, MSL and OSL champion in quick succession and we suddenly have to consider his career as it relates to some of the all-time greats.

Flash wins this OSL and he's a 2-time winner and legitimizes his claim of "best in the game today".

Not only that, these are two extremely smart players who are going to bring the fire to a BO5. I'm sure each has at least 1 crazy all-in prepared and a few unexpected builds, and even if one player gets 3-0'd (unlikely) neither flash nor Calm tend to ever get rolled.

Another awesome factor is that each player tends to play to the others' weakness: Flash has insane multitasking, which is one of Calm's midgame weaknesses, while Calm has the ability to shift gears into unorthodox builds and timings early on, which tends to throw Flash off in a major way. I can't wait to see these opposing styles clash and whoever wins I wholly expect to bring home the hardware.
the last wcs commissioner
ComradeDover
Profile Joined November 2009
Bulgaria758 Posts
December 30 2009 07:03 GMT
#74
Mmmm...Flash vs Calm. Flash vs Best comes at close second, but OSL games tend to be more enjoyable than MSL games, at least this season.
Bring back 2v2s!
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 30 2009 10:23 GMT
#75
flash vs best, been ages since flash played tvp and for some reason people started thinking that he's somehow worse at it now lol
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 30 2009 15:27 GMT
#76
Anything with (T)Flash playing is awesome, although (P)Movie vs (Z)Shine will probably be the closest one
malathion
Profile Joined March 2009
United States362 Posts
December 30 2009 17:40 GMT
#77
(T)Flash vs (Z)Calm is going to be another FvZ. I dunno why anyone thinks (Z)Calm has a serious chance here.

(T)Flash vs Best is the real test for (T)Flash.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
December 30 2009 19:14 GMT
#78
(T)Flash will eat (Z)Calm!

Including the bones! He's a monster, he's on Fire. He makes me hate terrans!
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
December 30 2009 19:54 GMT
#79
Movie vs Shine, both rising stars : )
Progamertwitter.com/welmu1 | twitch.com/Welmu1
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 30 2009 20:35 GMT
#80
Flash vs Best EEEEZ !
hatred outlives the hateful
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