EPTedit: as long as they play
Thoughts on JD vs Flash in OSL Ro8?
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
edit: as long as they play | ||
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Belano
Sweden657 Posts
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
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ThePhan2m
Norway2751 Posts
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
It sucks that the games are distributed over 2 weeks. | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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wadadde
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Don't you think the order of the possible answers influences the polls. This particular poll is definitely not a great example of a biased result, but I kinda noticed it in some of the previous ones. Would it be possible to randomize the order in which the answers are presented? Just a thought. edit : just to be clear, in a 'best to worst' scenario randomizing is obviously stupid unless you just reverse it to 'worst to best' half of the time. | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On December 21 2009 22:56 JWD wrote: Maybe this will inspire the OSL to go the way of the MSL, and decide Ro8 placement by KeSPA rank. That's a bit unfair imo to the group winners. But perhaps the group winners vs 2nd places by Kespa rank would be fair. | ||
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Geo.Rion
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I would prefer a BO5 on good maps, and we get this split bo3 shit with the good zerg map being the last one, which is just one more sign that this epic encounter ends in a 2-0 trashing and 1million FLashfanboys orgasming and shitting half of the TL threads with it, and opening 20 additional threads and blogs about it, So i gone with the This sucks so much, I hate OSL. | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 21 2009 22:56 JWD wrote: Why should it =/ this seasons Ro8 is amazing. + Show Spoiler +Maybe this will inspire the OSL to go the way of the MSL, and decide Ro8 placement by KeSPA rank. And so far Jaedong isn't looking nearly as strong as say Zero is | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
If Stork gets knocked out by Shine (wtffffffff) and it results in something stupid like Flash vs Shine finals, then GOD, WHY?!? JD and Flash appear poised to have another, more epic showdown in MSL, anyway. Probably a Bo5, there. On December 21 2009 23:48 Geo.Rion wrote: the 2 meeting each other is awesome but the format is horrible. I would prefer a BO5 on good maps, and we get this split bo3 shit with the good zerg map being the last one, which is just one more sign that this epic encounter ends in a 2-0 trashing and 1million FLashfanboys orgasming and shitting half of the TL threads with it, and opening 20 additional threads and blogs about it, So i gone with the This sucks so much, I hate OSL. Map excuses are pretty poor form, here. Fighting Spirit Was 6-5 TvZ before JD vs Flash. Equal numbers of T and Z mirrors played on it. Heartbreak Ridge New HBR is too new to draw meaningful stats from, but old HBR was extremely balanced TvZ by the stats, and had more than twice as many ZvZs as TvTs played on it in PL. Eye of the Storm Zerg favored. If JD can't get a win on either of the first two maps, then he would have lost the series 2-1 even if Eye of the Storm was the first map in the order (and assuming he won on it), so it doesn't matter. | ||
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
On December 22 2009 00:19 Plexa wrote: Why should it =/ this seasons Ro8 is amazing. + Show Spoiler + And so far Jaedong isn't looking nearly as strong as say Zero is What makes you say that? His 4-game loosing streak before he won vs Peace? I'm not saying said player is bad, I really like him myself, but saying that he doesnt look as strong as the other said player confuses me abit. | ||
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Lebesgue
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Nal_rAwr
United States2611 Posts
look at all these fans disappointed at how early Jaedong will be dropping out lol | ||
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SynC[gm]
United States3127 Posts
Funny... | ||
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GW.Methos
United States249 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
^^^ | ||
GTR
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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skronch
United States2717 Posts
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
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ForTheSwarm
United States556 Posts
This is a hundred times more final worthy than Calm vs. Kwanro, ha ha. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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PangO
Chile1870 Posts
go flash ! | ||
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blueblimp
Canada297 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11562 Posts
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asl-ninja
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BG1
Canada1550 Posts
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roronoe
Canada1527 Posts
I think it really doesn't matter, game quality is the only thing that matters. And so far based on game one, I'm disappointed (but impressed). I still have hope for the other two games though..since the maps are better for zerg than fighting spirit. | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
Sure, if they were on different sides of the bracket, maybe they have an opportunity to meet. But really, there are too many extenuating circumstances that could prevent a meeting. For example, Flash or Jaedong could get knocked out before even reaching the Finals/Semi-finals. Then, Flash v. Jaedong never happens at all. Just look at what happens in all the opportunities Bisu v. Jaedong could have happened. Most of the time, one or the other would get knocked out and deprive any chance to see the particular matchup. | ||
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Geo.Rion
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On December 22 2009 00:25 Hinanawi wrote: It depends, I guess. If it results in a Flash vs Stork finals, then awesome. If Stork gets knocked out by Shine (wtffffffff) and it results in something stupid like Flash vs Shine finals, then GOD, WHY?!? JD and Flash appear poised to have another, more epic showdown in MSL, anyway. Probably a Bo5, there. Map excuses are pretty poor form, here. Fighting Spirit Was 6-5 TvZ before JD vs Flash. Equal numbers of T and Z mirrors played on it. Heartbreak Ridge New HBR is too new to draw meaningful stats from, but old HBR was extremely balanced TvZ by the stats, and had more than twice as many ZvZs as TvTs played on it in PL. Eye of the Storm Zerg favored. If JD can't get a win on either of the first two maps, then he would have lost the series 2-1 even if Eye of the Storm was the first map in the order (and assuming he won on it), so it doesn't matter. I wonder how could you miss my point this badly. I'm not blaming the maps for JD's possible failiure, what i say is this: We could have 4-5 games if that would be a correct bo5, now we have most likely 2, and if you take into consideration how JD blows away the first games 80%of the time, we're down to HBR, on which JD had been struggling lately, giving Flash the opporunity to take this series with less than 50 units lost. Maybe if we'd have a statwise Zerg favorable map as the 2nd on which JD won htis far, and HBR as third, there would be a really good chanse to see an epic 3rd game, regardless of the results (BTW quit throwin out the term Zerg-favored or toss-map or whatever, you clearly do not have a clue, if it'd happen that terrans win 5 games on it in a row, it would become a T map for you (And not only for you, i read countless time that X is a Protoss map, than 1 month later it ws a Zerg map, even in OSL writeups though i wouldnt swear on it). As long as you're not a pro analyzer use the stats with dignity and do not make conclutions. It might happen that indeed it is, but still, with 11 games on it i wont hurry to decide.) And i clearly don't like that, given the alternative. The fact that i cheer for JD and against FLash doesnt have to do anything with this. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
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Kuzmorgo
Hungary1058 Posts
"Great!! JD vs Flash!! Match of the century!! But they should have changed the rules, and make it a BO5 and let them prepare for a month. Just for this one match..." option would have been necesary. | ||
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dibban
Sweden1279 Posts
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Piste
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no matter on what maps, jaedong has no chance vs him at this time. flash is too good atm. | ||
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DeViOuS
United States22 Posts
Gogo FlaSh! | ||
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Foreplay
United States1154 Posts
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Kinky
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GGYouMake
United States69 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 22 2009 01:48 Kyuki wrote: Just compare their respective games against FlashWhat makes you say that? His 4-game loosing streak before he won vs Peace? I'm not saying said player is bad, I really like him myself, but saying that he doesnt look as strong as the other said player confuses me abit. | ||
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ColdLava
Canada1673 Posts
I mean, Jaedong made a few poor decisions in that one game vs Flash but there's so many different things (even things like dumb pure luck) that factor in to one game that I think it's best to reserve your judgement on the state of a player at the moment :S Or rather, it's better to judge on the whole OSL instead of one game where he basically fucked up in a lot of different ways. | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On December 23 2009 10:38 Plexa wrote: Just compare their respective games against Flash I agree that ZerO put up a better fight, but it was also his choice of strategy(Lurker vs. 3-hatch muta) which allowed him to force Flash into a longer game. Furthermore Flash said that he had prepared mainly for Jaedong's style and he later even apologized for disrespecting ZerO by saying this. Had ZerO opted for a muta build he probably would have been destroyed just the same way Jaedong was. On the whole however I have to agree that ZerO appears to be the stronger player these days. | ||
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