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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
October 29 2009 22:30 GMT
#401
On October 30 2009 07:17 Holgerius wrote:
Needs moar Stork...

fixed
cw)minsean(ru
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-29 22:45:44
October 29 2009 22:43 GMT
#402
On October 30 2009 07:21 disciple wrote:
Hyuk should be #5 or #6 indeed. There is no excuse for putting him lower in the upcoming PR


Hiz ZvT is inescapably bad.

Kind of like FBH, who only got to 4th place after like a 9-1 PL record and a 22-8 record in his last thirty, but almost all his losses were protoss. If a zerg is on an 8 game losing streak to terran, then I don't think he should be in the top 5.
Remember Violet.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
October 29 2009 22:46 GMT
#403
On October 30 2009 07:43 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 07:21 disciple wrote:
Hyuk should be #5 or #6 indeed. There is no excuse for putting him lower in the upcoming PR


Hiz ZvT is inescapably bad.

Kind of like FBH, who only got to 4th place after like a 9-1 PL record and a 22-8 record in his last thirty, but almost all his losses were protoss. If a zerg is on an 8 game losing streak to terran, then I don't think he should be in the top 5.

but still. JAEDONG. EFFORT. STORK
cw)minsean(ru
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 29 2009 22:55 GMT
#404
On October 30 2009 07:01 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
1. (T)Flash - obvious...
2. (Z)Calm - The defending MSL champ is looking good. No signs of slump as he rapes left and right
3. (Z)EffOrt - one loss to (Z)Hyuk isnt going to bring him down
4. (P)Bisu - Lost to (Z)Shine.. but he's still in the MSL and raping shit in PL
5. (Z)Jaedong - still in MSL and OSL. ZvZ is ridic. 2 loses isnt going to bring him down much

6. (Z)Hyuk - YEAH (Z)Hyuk

7. (Z)Luxury - YEAH LUX

8. (P)Stork - YEAH (P)Stork

9. (Z)Shine - I DONT LIKE YOU (Z)Shine

10. (T)fantasy - WHAT HAPPENED


Where is Movie?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
October 29 2009 23:00 GMT
#405
On October 30 2009 07:55 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 07:01 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
1. (T)Flash - obvious...
2. (Z)Calm - The defending MSL champ is looking good. No signs of slump as he rapes left and right
3. (Z)EffOrt - one loss to (Z)Hyuk isnt going to bring him down
4. (P)Bisu - Lost to (Z)Shine.. but he's still in the MSL and raping shit in PL
5. (Z)Jaedong - still in MSL and OSL. ZvZ is ridic. 2 loses isnt going to bring him down much

6. (Z)Hyuk - YEAH (Z)Hyuk

7. (Z)Luxury - YEAH LUX

8. (P)Stork - YEAH (P)Stork

9. (Z)Shine - I DONT LIKE YOU (Z)Shine

10. (T)fantasy - WHAT HAPPENED


Where is Movie?

HE DIED OKAY. GOOD GOD
I DONT KNOW WHERE TO PUT THE MAN
cw)minsean(ru
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
October 29 2009 23:12 GMT
#406
On October 30 2009 07:01 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
1. (T)Flash - obvious...
2. (Z)Calm - The defending MSL champ is looking good. No signs of slump as he rapes left and right
3. (Z)EffOrt - one loss to (Z)Hyuk isnt going to bring him down
4. (P)Bisu - Lost to (Z)Shine.. but he's still in the MSL and raping shit in PL
5. (Z)Jaedong - still in MSL and OSL. ZvZ is ridic. 2 loses isnt going to bring him down much

6. (Z)Hyuk - YEAH (Z)Hyuk

7. (Z)Luxury - YEAH LUX

8. (P)Stork - YEAH (P)Stork

9. (Z)Shine - I DONT LIKE YOU (Z)Shine

10. (T)fantasy - WHAT HAPPENED


Why is Effort above Stork? They've had a similar month (Stork winning slightly more game, Effort winning slightly harder game), but Effort's last moment of glory (before this month) was edging out Khan in the proleague. He flopped after that, and Stork kicked ass.
My strategy is to fork people.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
October 30 2009 00:23 GMT
#407
Presumably more than half the PR is going to be Zerg, with most of the CBNCs being Zerg too.

Deliver us from swarm season!

Worst-case scenario: The Protoss players on the PR meet and stomp the Terran PR players in OSL/MSL and then proceed to roll over and die to the Zerg. Two ZvZ finals again.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-30 10:03:00
October 30 2009 10:02 GMT
#408
On October 30 2009 07:43 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 07:21 disciple wrote:
Hyuk should be #5 or #6 indeed. There is no excuse for putting him lower in the upcoming PR


Hiz ZvT is inescapably bad.

Kind of like FBH, who only got to 4th place after like a 9-1 PL record and a 22-8 record in his last thirty, but almost all his losses were protoss. If a zerg is on an 8 game losing streak to terran, then I don't think he should be in the top 5.

he played like 2 TvZ in the last month or something, even if he is bad at the MU, those games were not significant for his achievements so far
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-30 11:11:28
October 30 2009 11:10 GMT
#409
1.Flash
2.Calm
3.Stork
4.Movie
5.Shine
6.Effort
7.Jaedong
8.Type-B
9.Bisu
10.Hyuk
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
October 30 2009 12:03 GMT
#410
Okay, let's forget Luxury.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-30 12:21:22
October 30 2009 12:09 GMT
#411
Yep, that was a horrible performance. But he still has MSL, what if he kicks ass there?

WTF, I don't want to be a Goliath! Make me a Vulture again.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
October 30 2009 12:30 GMT
#412
On October 30 2009 21:09 Holgerius wrote:
Yep, that was a horrible performance. But he still has MSL, what if he kicks ass there?

By itself, winning against Bogus and Hogil of all people doesn't count for much. At least not with the competition this month. (Yeah, free is good but doesn't count due to the current ZvP business).

WTF, I don't want to be a Goliath! Make me a Vulture again.

That is your penalty for not visiting your brother
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 30 2009 13:10 GMT
#413
On October 30 2009 21:30 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 21:09 Holgerius wrote:
Yep, that was a horrible performance. But he still has MSL, what if he kicks ass there?

By itself, winning against Bogus and Hogil of all people doesn't count for much. At least not with the competition this month. (Yeah, free is good but doesn't count due to the current ZvP business).

Show nested quote +
WTF, I don't want to be a Goliath! Make me a Vulture again.

That is your penalty for not visiting your brother

If he goes 2-0 he'll be 8-3 overall with good performance in PL and successful qualification to one Starleague. I guess it depends a little on how much you prioritize the skill of the opponents. And btw, Hogil showed some really high level SC against Mind and Flash. Judging by those games, he's definitely a lot better than what his statistics says. He's not a pushover by any means. If you haven't seen it, go watch Day[9]'s analysis of Mind vs Hogil. Good stuff.

My PR would look something like this:

1. Flash
2. Calm
3. Effort
4. Jaedong
5. Bisu
6. Stork
7. Hyuk
8. Movie
9. Shine
10. Luxury or Fantasy depending on Luxury's MSL games. I hate Fantasy.

I really wanted to visit you, but since I'm such an awesome dude everyone here wanted me to go to parties and shit this weekend. Will try to visit you sometime soon.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
October 30 2009 13:31 GMT
#414
And btw, Hogil showed some really high level SC against Mind and Flash. Judging by those games, he's definitely a lot better than what his statistics says. He's not a pushover by any means. If you haven't seen it, go watch Day[9]'s analysis of Mind vs Hogil. Good stuff.

His ZvT have taken huge leaps forward lately it seems, if he can just get his ZvZ up on par he can become a really good player since he already posses a top notch ZvP.
God Hates a Coward
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 30 2009 13:38 GMT
#415
Luxury should be happy to get CBNC this month, Hwasin on the other hand is in both leagues again. :p

He really is a sure bet for qualifying group stages.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-30 14:03:47
October 30 2009 14:03 GMT
#416
Yeah, I was really surprised to see him there, especially since he never comes up on the lineups anymore. Luxury has been playing really well in the proleague this month, I'm pretty sure he earned a top 10 spot, despite any mishaps.
Sullifam
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-30 15:14:31
October 30 2009 15:13 GMT
#417
1. flash
2. calm
3. effort
4. jaedong
5. stork [both leagues!]
6. luxury
7. bisu
8. fantasy
9. hyuk
10. shine[kal]

or maybe movie at 9 or 10
Writer
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
October 30 2009 16:32 GMT
#418
Movie should get a spot defo, shine[kal] not, cuz he is a cheesy bastard
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
October 30 2009 17:13 GMT
#419
GuemChi #1 + bonjwa?
Peace~
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
October 30 2009 17:19 GMT
#420
On October 31 2009 02:13 fanatacist wrote:
GuemChi #1 + bonjwa?


I think this is a pretty safe bet.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
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