• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:25
CET 22:25
KST 06:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Gypsy to Korea KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY ASL21 General Discussion mca64Launcher - New Version with StarCraft: Remast
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2026 Changsha Offline Cup [ASL21] Ro24 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1606 users

Power Rank 10/01/2009 - Page 2

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 21 22 23 Next All
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8167 Posts
October 01 2009 02:03 GMT
#21
this is more of "august PR reconsidered" than september PR.

if calm didnt move up one I'd tell you that you shoulda just not done a PR for september.
Free Palestine
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
October 01 2009 02:30 GMT
#22
Big moves in this month's rank!!
✌
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 02:43:01
October 01 2009 02:41 GMT
#23
On October 01 2009 10:48 Hot_Bid wrote:
This ranking is completely filled with opinionated, ridiculous bullshit from a dude who clearly just coinflipped randomly to determine placement. Learn to watch games and analyze results without being a giant biased idiot fanboy please.

Jaedong at #1? Calm and Bisu in the Top 3?? Lack of GosI[Flying] from the Top 10!?!?

Seriously!??!

While I agree that Gosi[Flying] is well on his way to being the next bonjwa, surely you can't expect me to put him on the rank before he has at least two major individual league titles, right? I mean come on, Jaedong is on that list, and he has 4 titles. Simple math dictates that

4/2 = 2

So Gosi needs at least one OSL and one MSL title to be on the PR. Duh. This is after weighing Jaedong as the epitome of Starcraft atm of course, which though easy to do is not particularly sound in terms of statistics. If we go about this in a more sane way and take the top two rankers and do the math for them, Jaedong 4 + Calm 1 = 5. Then, Gosi's threshold too increases. He now has to win 2.5 titles, which for sanity's sake I will define as 1 MSL, 1 OSL and 1 GOM. Since GOM is now scrapped, Gosi can never realistically be placed on the Power Rank.

You seem to forget Hot_Bid, that all PR conclusions are arrived at via careful mathematics, and not pure conjecture as you allege. Sure, coins are involved (in fact, in order to maintain an equilibrium, we try and use coins representing at least 10 TL member currencies), but the process itself is very complex and has been passed down by word of mouth from Etter through Fakesteve and JWD to me.
AdministratorSKT T1 | Masters of the Universe
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
October 01 2009 02:58 GMT
#24
This month was skippable, it wasn't worthy of new PR at all, but i feel Calm and Bisu are both better than Fantasy, the rank looks better to me now.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
October 01 2009 05:26 GMT
#25
I generally agree with this month's power rank, but then there probably doesn't need to be one
Brood War loyalist
Kreedit
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden373 Posts
October 01 2009 05:31 GMT
#26
On October 01 2009 11:41 riptide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 10:48 Hot_Bid wrote:
This ranking is completely filled with opinionated, ridiculous bullshit from a dude who clearly just coinflipped randomly to determine placement. Learn to watch games and analyze results without being a giant biased idiot fanboy please.

Jaedong at #1? Calm and Bisu in the Top 3?? Lack of GosI[Flying] from the Top 10!?!?

Seriously!??!

While I agree that Gosi[Flying] is well on his way to being the next bonjwa, surely you can't expect me to put him on the rank before he has at least two major individual league titles, right? I mean come on, Jaedong is on that list, and he has 4 titles. Simple math dictates that

4/2 = 2

So Gosi needs at least one OSL and one MSL title to be on the PR. Duh. This is after weighing Jaedong as the epitome of Starcraft atm of course, which though easy to do is not particularly sound in terms of statistics. If we go about this in a more sane way and take the top two rankers and do the math for them, Jaedong 4 + Calm 1 = 5. Then, Gosi's threshold too increases. He now has to win 2.5 titles, which for sanity's sake I will define as 1 MSL, 1 OSL and 1 GOM. Since GOM is now scrapped, Gosi can never realistically be placed on the Power Rank.

You seem to forget Hot_Bid, that all PR conclusions are arrived at via careful mathematics, and not pure conjecture as you allege. Sure, coins are involved (in fact, in order to maintain an equilibrium, we try and use coins representing at least 10 TL member currencies), but the process itself is very complex and has been passed down by word of mouth from Etter through Fakesteve and JWD to me.


Il admit i chuckled.

Gj anyway on the list... didnt really happen much this month so yeah.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
October 01 2009 06:46 GMT
#27
this is terrible pr

where are the good players
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 01 2009 09:12 GMT
#28
Uh, nothing to disagree with cus of that few games played. But it was a nice (without much context) read, keep it up.

also, response to Hot_bid's flame was lulzy
In the woods, there lurks..
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 01 2009 09:16 GMT
#29
<3 Stork
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43752 Posts
October 01 2009 09:59 GMT
#30
First power rank where the top 10 stayed the same?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
October 01 2009 13:29 GMT
#31
Its nice to see that the PR are published on time now a days!
Also - could not agree more on the PR - its basically hard to not get it right for september
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7231 Posts
October 01 2009 14:21 GMT
#32
With no games last month, this is about the simplest and least controversial power rank of all time. Spot on.
日本語が分かりますか
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
October 01 2009 15:31 GMT
#33
Yeah, I think this last power rank was very unecessary. I'm looking forward for the beginning of the new season with real matches and real power ranks.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
October 01 2009 17:19 GMT
#34
ZOMG WHERE IS HYUK THIS RANK IS TRASH
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
October 01 2009 20:41 GMT
#35
didn't expect to see PR this month, was a nice surprise, good read even though there were not too many games to rank.. soon oh soon the next season kicks in!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
October 01 2009 21:54 GMT
#36
On October 01 2009 08:18 iamho wrote:
Hyuk's new play style makes him look like Jaedong


Fixed.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Triple7
Profile Joined April 2009
United States656 Posts
October 02 2009 00:35 GMT
#37
FlaSh's game vs. SaviOr should bring him up at least one spot!
지지이이이이이이이이이이이
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
October 02 2009 04:08 GMT
#38
Heh, I didn't even realize there was a new PR at first; I just clicked on the power rank randomly today being bored and deciding to reread the PR.
Illusion.
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States348 Posts
October 02 2009 05:45 GMT
#39
On October 01 2009 18:16 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
<3 Stork

+1 ^
STORK FOR LIFE.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
October 02 2009 09:42 GMT
#40
Lol, you managed to write a pr out of nothing. Good job!
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 21 22 23 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 35m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 155
ProTech149
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 18001
Shuttle 209
Bonyth 80
Aegong 54
LancerX 28
NaDa 15
IntoTheRainbow 9
Dota 2
Gorgc7626
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu371
Other Games
summit1g6293
Grubby3387
Beastyqt657
shahzam592
trigger250
ArmadaUGS215
mouzStarbuck215
C9.Mang0192
KnowMe155
crisheroes147
Hui .88
ZombieGrub39
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1621
StarCraft 2
angryscii 29
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 62
• musti20045 36
• mYiSmile112
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2889
• WagamamaTV574
• lizZardDota243
Other Games
• imaqtpie1061
• Scarra590
• Shiphtur152
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
12h 35m
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
Platinum Heroes Events
17h 35m
BSL
22h 35m
RSL Revival
1d 12h
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
1d 14h
BSL
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.