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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On October 28 2009 02:44 Orbifold wrote: I'm not too worried about Flash tonight, normally I would be biting my nails now... but the guy has just looked unstoppable lately. Yes, but if KT continue to abuse Flash like that we'll have another burnt out Flash. | ||
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okum
France5779 Posts
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
My only worry is if KT's coaches have been forcing Flash to devote almost all his time to his ProLeague match tonight (or worse, if they're also planning on using him as their ace against Jaedong and want him to practice for that too). You could say "Oh, well Flash can just use his TvZ strat he prepared against Jaedong against Hogil if it works out that way", but I seriously doubt Flash would prepare the same strategy against Hogil that he would against JD. It's got to be tough to prioritize your practice time like that. On one hand, Flash has got to be dying to not drop out of starleagues early again, but on the other hand Flash is facing a Terran in Proleague and he said he wants to get his TvT streak record to at least 15 before he relaxes. I don't envy riptide for having to decide on next month's PR. The top spots will probably be pretty easy, but 6-10 are going to be really tough to decide on. So many players who deserve recognition, not enough spots. I predict lots of CBNCs. So far, looks like: -Jaedong down -Effort way up -Flash up -Bisu/Fantasy slightly down -Iris off completely -Stork about the same spot? -Yarnc off | ||
Ver
United States2186 Posts
On October 28 2009 02:44 Orbifold wrote: I'm not too worried about Flash tonight, normally I would be biting my nails now... but the guy has just looked unstoppable lately. Flash was by far the best player in February too, but in the process of hours and then again the next day his play dropped to inconceivably low levels. + Show Spoiler [link] + After that shock Flash slumped until well...now really. He had good matches in between but he didn't have consistency till now basically. If KT had rested Flash and not let him crash and burn due to overwork he would definitely have done way better and won them many more games instead of slumping hard and screwing up badly in WL playoffs and rounds 4/5, which is why they deserve all the heat they get. Then again they depend on Flash way way more than any other team so it's really hard to make that decision to rest him. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On October 28 2009 09:52 Ver wrote: If KT had rested Flash and not let him crash and burn due to overwork he would definitely have done way better and won them many more games instead of slumping hard and screwing up badly in WL playoffs and rounds 4/5, which is why they deserve all the heat they get. Then again they depend on Flash way way more than any other team so it's really hard to make that decision to rest him. Hwaseung OZ (and Luxury) say hi. But seriously, I expect Flash to do better when he's done with school - that's been the major difference between his schedule and Jaedong's over the past few years. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + So Hyuk on PR yes thanks? Jaedong down down down? | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + JD down...maybe all the way down to #4? Effort up, but not quite as much as previously thought. Either Flash or Calm at #1 depending on whether or not Flash does well in his OSL group tonight. Hyuk is still terrible ZvT but his recent Zerg kill list is just crazy. Luxury might deserve a spot on the bottom half. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On October 28 2009 14:40 TwoToneTerran wrote: If Flash 2-0's Mind tonight, I will probably shed tears of joy. Me too. :D | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On October 28 2009 14:37 Hinanawi wrote: Tonight's PL + Show Spoiler + JD down...maybe all the way down to #4? Effort up, but not quite as much as previously thought. Either Flash or Calm at #1 depending on whether or not Flash does well in his OSL group tonight. Hyuk is still terrible ZvT but his recent Zerg kill list is just crazy. Luxury might deserve a spot on the bottom half. Opinion on Bisu given his recent performance? + Show Spoiler + I don't think stomping scrubs is something to take much note of, but the flair with which he does it is. Also, since Flash fans are big on numbers and stats nowadays due to his beastly record, I think Bisu's wins can't be ignored. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
1. Flash - Undefeated and holds longest TvT atm 2. Hyuk - Lost once to Terran but beat the Jaedong and the Effort 3. Calm - Lost once to RorO but despite the loss, Calm preformed excellently in the OSL and won the MSL last season so he fits here 4. Luxury - Luxury holds the same record as Calm, losing to CJ's ace, Effort 5. Bisu - Eliminated from the OSL AGAIN.... but is 4-0 in Proleague so far 6. Jaedong - he lost 2 ZvZs no wait.. 3! He isn't showing good stats since the OSL Finals going 2-3 in Proleague with 4 of his opponents being Zerg, his being match-up but he is the OSL champion and he can still prove the world that the 3 ZvZs were a fluke 7. fantasy - fantasy is 3-1 losing on his abysmal TvT to eSTRO's ace, UpMaGiC. 8. Effort - Effort is still producing good results but lost to Hyuk bringing his proleague stats down to 4-1 9. Movie - Movie is one of the few Protoss players that managed through the Ro36 bug he won 1 out of 3 games in proleague 10. Shine[Kal] - Shine beat Bisu. Shine in OSL. Shine Happy. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On October 28 2009 15:07 Kenpachi wrote: if i were to do a power rank right now, it would be 1. Flash - Undefeated and holds longest TvT atm 2. Hyuk - Lost once to Terran but beat the Jaedong and the Effort 3. Calm - Lost once to RorO but despite the loss, Calm preformed excellently in the OSL and won the MSL last season so he fits here 4. Luxury - Luxury holds the same record as Calm, losing to CJ's ace, Effort 5. Bisu - Eliminated from the OSL AGAIN.... but is 4-0 in Proleague so far 6. Jaedong - he lost 2 ZvZs no wait.. 3! He isn't showing good stats since the OSL Finals going 2-3 in Proleague with 4 of his opponents being Zerg, his being match-up but he is the OSL champion and he can still prove the world that the 3 ZvZs were a fluke 7. fantasy - fantasy is 3-1 losing on his abysmal TvT to eSTRO's ace, UpMaGiC. 8. Effort - Effort is still producing good results but lost to Hyuk bringing his proleague stats down to 4-1 9. Movie - Movie is one of the few Protoss players that managed through the Ro36 bug he won 1 out of 3 games in proleague 10. Shine[Kal] - Shine beat Bisu. Shine in OSL. Shine Happy. No Stork? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of his, but so many people have been throwing his name around that it was surprising to not see him on a personal PR. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On October 28 2009 15:07 fanatacist wrote: Opinion on Bisu given his recent performance? + Show Spoiler + I don't think stomping scrubs is something to take much note of, but the flair with which he does it is. Also, since Flash fans are big on numbers and stats nowadays due to his beastly record, I think Bisu's wins can't be ignored. AAAAGGGH I so just want to respond to this with a jab at the Shine series, but I know if I do, Flash will somehow get 0-2'd by Roro as some sort of cosmic decree that I should never be tongue in cheek. ): | ||
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Vasoline73
United States8072 Posts
I think fans are getting carried away just because he isn't completely sucky like he used to be | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On October 28 2009 15:12 TwoToneTerran wrote: AAAAGGGH I so just want to respond to this with a jab at the Shine series, but I know if I do, Flash will somehow get 0-2'd by Roro as some sort of cosmic decree that I should never be tongue in cheek. ): + Show Spoiler + I remember the series  I meant do you think his recent PL record has done anything to bolster his potential ranking, or is it irrelevant because he has been noobstomping? | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On October 28 2009 15:13 Vasoline73 wrote: Dude why would Hyuk be number 2? He beaten some zergs... and proven that he doesn't suck completely. That's definitely not even number 7 in my book on the PR, even if he has beaten JD and Effort. I think fans are getting carried away just because he isn't completely sucky like he used to be I agree. Beating Jaedong and Effort is impressive, but they were two Bo1s in the first weeks of proleague, which says nothing about his other MUs or potential in individual SLs or anything else that a lot of other players have. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On October 28 2009 15:16 fanatacist wrote: + Show Spoiler + I remember the series I meant do you think his recent PL record has done anything to bolster his potential ranking, or is it irrelevant because he has been noobstomping?His PL record is wonderful and, with the Shine game in consideration, there'd be nothing wrong with keeping him around the 3 area. (OBVIOUSLY FLASH SHOULD PASS HIM UP I'M JUST SAYING) | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On October 28 2009 15:09 fanatacist wrote: No Stork? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of his, but so many people have been throwing his name around that it was surprising to not see him on a personal PR. Stork should definitely be on there, but seriously; who the fuck should he replace? | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On October 28 2009 15:25 Holgerius wrote: Stork should definitely be on there, but seriously; who the fuck should he replace? Although this might be bias shining through, I think Shine hasn't done THAT much. Or, at least nothing that much better than Stork. Beating Bisu in a relatively trashy series is still impressive, but that + an OSL position due to that win is kind of... setting the standard low imo. | ||
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