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StorrZerg
United States13911 Posts
On August 10 2009 23:23 neobowman wrote: Jaedong is going to RIP FANTASY APART! REVENGE OF THE TYRANT! Nice article. 100% truth. hes blood raged right now everything will be torn apart in his mist. | ||
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Ideas
United States8055 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
i'm rooting for fantasy in this semi ... jaedong is a Bo5 monster, no question on that, but i do have a feeling that fantasy will be able to cheese his way through a game or two. 2-port wraith + bunker rush maybe? =P | ||
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
and type-b? | ||
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sushiman
Sweden2691 Posts
On August 11 2009 00:42 Crunchums wrote: Am I the only one who is sick of articles raving about oov and boxer's influence on fantasy? Any time fantasy does anything remotely creative it's all whoa shit look at how boxer has been teaching him. It's especially egregious given that we know very little about actual team dynamics due to the language barrier. Not everything that happens in SKT is the result of boxer or oov and if any other player had done what fantasy had done nobody would think twice about it. He himself has given credit to both boxer and oov, so it's not that strange. I mean, in the PL finals interview he claimed he didn't talk too much with boxer before the match to not make it too obvious what he would do. ~~ Besides, his so-called revolutionary TvZ with valk -> mech was basically just a variation of a build done by boxer (valk -> biomech) a week before his first match using it. It might be tiresome, but there's no denying that oov's protege has been massively influenced by both oov and boxer. Anyway, personally I'm hoping for JD winning it all. Doing so would give him one of the greatest accomplishments in SC history; back-to-back finals, OSL golds, as well as golden mouse. That kid deserves it, after carrying his whole team to PL-finals, basically on his own, and then losing it quite anticlimactically. | ||
Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
On August 11 2009 01:04 Ronald_McD wrote: This is so true. Why can't Fantasy get any credit for his own accomplishments. Okay, so his seniors and coaches help, but it's not like Boxer and Oov are the only Terrans capable of creative play, ever. Jesus Christ. Boxer: The first time I thought up of this strategy was when we were playing simulated games after Hwaseung defeated CJ and sealed their place in the Grand Finals. I defeated Hyuk with this strategy and felt that it was such a good strategy. Even til then, Coach Park did not really support the strategy, but when I showed it for him to see personally, he was impressed. Hence, I told Fantasy about the build. Not to mention Fantasy specifically mentions that (at the proleague Grand Finals) he faked not talking to Boxer so that Hwaseung wouldnt think he prepared a risky/aggressive build and instead pretended to talk to iloveoov so they would think he prepared a macro-oriented one. AND iloveoov said his goal when he became a coach was to "guide a Terran player to an individual win" *edit* To clarify: I dont think this is a bad thing though. Its just stupid to deny it. Fantasy is easily the most exciting Terran around these days - as someone who plays TvZ / ZvT (ret style!), Fantasy's win on Day 1 against Jaedong was so amazing that I didnt even feel bad that my team was losing. | ||
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
Not to nitpick or anything, Fantasy has only 'rushed' JD once and JD was going for fast mutas so it was JDs fault. Every other game they've played, Fantasy has always opted to play JD straight up; and we know who is leading the series =) | ||
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
On August 11 2009 01:56 Railz wrote: I love the JD fans who say that Fantasy can't beat JD straight up. Not to nitpick or anything, Fantasy has only 'rushed' JD once and JD was going for fast mutas so it was JDs fault. Every other game they've played, Fantasy has always opted to play JD straight up; and we know who is leading the series =) We know who won the OSL. | ||
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
We know won the PL? Moot point. The week after the OSL Fantasy destroyed JD on heart break and the OSL series went 3-2 so it was anything BUT convincing. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13911 Posts
what 2 osls? soon to be a 3rd? | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Tom Phoenix
1114 Posts
Overall, a Yellow vs. fantasy final is the best-case scenario (even though I am a Jaedong fan). Both of these players have desperatly wanted an individual title for a very long time now. Yellow is desperate to overcome his brother, while fantasy is desperate to beat JangBi in their King of Silver race. If such a final occurs, then both are certain to give it their all in a bit to take the title. By the way, even if Bisu never wins an OSL title, I seriously doubt he will ever truly be forgotten. Infact, it is interesting that sometimes, titles have little meaning in if people remember the player or not. For example, V-Gundam is quite a famous Terran player, even though he never won a single title. Mind, on the other hand, won an MSL (against Bisu, no less), but has preety much dropped off the radar since. | ||
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
On August 11 2009 02:25 Tom Phoenix wrote: To support your argument: a lot of people don't know who Casy, Synch, and (to a lesser extent) GGPlay are.By the way, even if Bisu never wins an OSL title, I seriously doubt he will ever truly be forgotten. Infact, it is interesting that sometimes, titles have little meaning in if people remember the player or not. For example, V-Gundam is quite a famous Terran player, even though he never won a single title. Mind, on the other hand, won an MSL (against Bisu, no less), but has preety much dropped off the radar since. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
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Ideas
United States8055 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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mucker
United States1120 Posts
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Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
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