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DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
August 11 2009 06:36 GMT
#121
On August 10 2009 23:26 konadora wrote:
Fantasy will win this OSL.

Great write-up!

dreamboy
Profile Joined August 2009
United States14 Posts
August 11 2009 06:49 GMT
#122
I hope Fantasy wins this one
Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
August 11 2009 08:05 GMT
#123
Excellent write-up.

One can only hope JD isn't too demoralized after the PL finals and will take this and the MSL to become one of the legends. It would be a good way to end SC1 progaming.
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
August 11 2009 08:15 GMT
#124
Type-B looks like a rapper
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-11 08:51:26
August 11 2009 08:27 GMT
#125
On August 11 2009 00:39 sh02hp0869 wrote:
Hahah Jaedong will kill Fantasy. Fantasy can only win if Jd slips up or if out smart JD. He can never beat him straight - and in a best of 5? no way!

Because if you don't slip up or get out-smarted that means you've played a perfect game. You obviously don't lose when you've played a perfect game.

Pretty sad that you don't think that Fantasy has played straight-up and beaten Jaedong. :/

On August 11 2009 11:41 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2009 04:58 Railz wrote:
On August 11 2009 03:43 n.DieJokes wrote:
I like how all of Fantasy's listed talents aren't actually his... Jaedong has something Fantasy lacks, skill and this is a bo5. Jaedong will once again reassert his dominance for the doubters


So wrong on so many levels. Fantasy has patience which is something most pro-gamers, lack. His defense game sense right now is unmatched; watch his games against JD on Heartbreak ridge and Outsider and tell me otherwise.

+ Show Spoiler +
Regarding the PL finals I'm pretty sure that oov didn't tell Fantasy to save up 12 tanks to win and rough out the swarm


Fantasy's mechanics and micro may not be on par with JD, but his creativity and game sense are a direct counter to JDs brutality.

Wow patience...that so awesome. What your telling me is basically Fantasy is a camper without the Flash like macro... how can you not root for that...
I've seen all the games and every time Fantasy wins its in a gimmick, on hb in pro-league JD stuck to hard to mutalisks and was unable to scourge each and every valk (something like that, it's been a while). In the outsider game, the whole strategy failed, the fast tech to guardians was awful, only by herculean feats of skill was Jd able to bring that game to within a inch of victory. Fantasy saved up his 12 tanks because everything he brought out got absolutely ravaged (so many gosu dead vessels), that's not exactly brilliance. Fantasy has excellent unit balance, he always has whatever he needs at the right times, I will attribute that one talent to his TvZ, beyond that he's mediocre

GG I cannot see how you are so stupid. I just honestly can't comprehend a stupidity so great as yours. Patience =/= camping. Patience = knowing when to do what and not panicking when the shit hits the fan.

HBR game Fantasy didn't even need those valkyries. Watch the game FFS.

I see what you're saying, and all I'm getting from it is that JD sucks. Great!

Fantasy's macro was great and he was able to go toe-to-toe with JD in the middle of Outsider. You're pretty dull to think that he got absolutely ravaged. The only thing that got ravaged were his SVs, which did their job in taking out JD's defilers.

I think you're still bitter about Fantasy beating JD because your post is so ridiculously biased. I just couldn't help but play devil's advocate.




It's pretty stupid that a lot of haters try to put Fantasy down by saying that BoxeR and iloveoov did all the work. Imagine that there's a man who has to walk on some narrow planks that wind left and right and eventually end up somewhere. Problem is, the man is blind so he can't navigate around without falling off. There's another man that helps the blind man --- guess what, not by telling him take one step, turn right now, take two steps, turn left now, etc, etc --- but by telling him to walk slowly, use his foot to feel the edges, and to spread his arms out to balance himself. If the blind man managed to complete this feat, would anyone say, "wtf the other guy helped him get to the end, he did all the work and the blind man did nothing!" Seems pretty stupid and ridiculous doesn't it? The more I look at it, the more ridiculous I find it. It seriously just blows my mind how stupid the argument that BoxeR and iloveoov deserve the most credit is. All they did was help Fantasy practice and give him tips and advice, as did the "other man". BoxeR and iloveoov can't take so much credit, as neither can the "other man".
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-11 09:22:38
August 11 2009 09:22 GMT
#126
It's stupid to argue Fantasy doesn't have skill. What would be interesting is whether he'd still be the favorite if the roles were switched, and Jaedong had two amazing Zerg minds dissecting every element of Fantasy's game.

Also, sweet writeup, can't wait. I just want Jaedong to crush :-/
Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 11 2009 10:24 GMT
#127
Well, third is the charm, Fantasy has this.

Of course Jaedong will put up a fight but if he loses the first game then he'll be shaken, you just don't pick yourself up from a 3 game losing streak and be able to play solid again. Not to mention that that 3 game losing streak was your team's chance to winning the ProLeague, 2 of those 3 games were against the same player, and one of those games that he lost was his best match up - not to mention he lost to a T1 Zerg. Maybe Jaedong can pull this one out, but he really needs to pick himself up good.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
August 11 2009 11:01 GMT
#128
I thought I couldn't get more hyped not only for JaeDong putting fantasy in his place and also seeing YArnC possibly get a title to his name as I think he deserves, but you managed to - not bad for a kiwi. Nice work Plexa.
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theslayer922
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada304 Posts
August 11 2009 11:54 GMT
#129
Jaedong needs to sleep AND DESTROY FANTASY!!!!


p.s. tyrant killer forever <3
In the Donger I Trust
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
August 11 2009 12:21 GMT
#130
i wanna give it to yarnc.
keeps Boxer and Nada reigning supreme on these events
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dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
August 11 2009 12:50 GMT
#131
On August 11 2009 11:41 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2009 04:58 Railz wrote:
On August 11 2009 03:43 n.DieJokes wrote:
I like how all of Fantasy's listed talents aren't actually his... Jaedong has something Fantasy lacks, skill and this is a bo5. Jaedong will once again reassert his dominance for the doubters


So wrong on so many levels. Fantasy has patience which is something most pro-gamers, lack. His defense game sense right now is unmatched; watch his games against JD on Heartbreak ridge and Outsider and tell me otherwise.

+ Show Spoiler +
Regarding the PL finals I'm pretty sure that oov didn't tell Fantasy to save up 12 tanks to win and rough out the swarm


Fantasy's mechanics and micro may not be on par with JD, but his creativity and game sense are a direct counter to JDs brutality.

Wow patience...that so awesome. What your telling me is basically Fantasy is a camper without the Flash like macro... how can you not root for that...
I've seen all the games and every time Fantasy wins its in a gimmick, on hb in pro-league JD stuck to hard to mutalisks and was unable to scourge each and every valk (something like that, it's been a while). In the outsider game, the whole strategy failed, the fast tech to guardians was awful, only by herculean feats of skill was Jd able to bring that game to within a inch of victory. Fantasy saved up his 12 tanks because everything he brought out got absolutely ravaged (so many gosu dead vessels), that's not exactly brilliance. Fantasy has excellent unit balance, he always has whatever he needs at the right times, I will attribute that one talent to his TvZ, beyond that he's mediocre

It's unfortunate that Jaedong has these kinds of fans because he deserves much better.
Moktira is da bomb
Metallingus
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines468 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-11 13:10:15
August 11 2009 12:58 GMT
#132
JUNG LADEN FIGHTING

Hoping for a Yarnc v Fantasy final, I want either of them to win this OSL. Though of course, I really want Fantasy to take this OSL. Gogogo League Terrorist!
Overcome all. Especially plateaus.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-11 13:20:50
August 11 2009 13:13 GMT
#133
JD and Fantasy will goto 5, and JD will win it. For the record, I think fantasy is the best terran anyone could ask for in a BoX. Time for another Golden Mouse club member.

In the proleague fantasy had the mental edge the entire time, SKT is the better team on paper and though the pressure was high, it was certainly manageable. As soon as JD runs over him in one of these games its going to be a crash and burn, just like last time MARK MY WORDS.

This is best summed up by using simple substitution with a well known metaphor:

Fantasy: Hey JD, how about them pro league finals, <crashing plane SFX go here> crashed and burn, huh JD.
Jaedong: Hey Fantasy...sniff...You stink.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
August 11 2009 16:06 GMT
#134
man JD vs fantasy is going to be so good, im SO pumped.

You couldn't ask for 2 better players to have a Bo5 right now.
Free Palestine
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
August 11 2009 17:04 GMT
#135
On August 11 2009 14:29 Mortician wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On August 10 2009 23:15 Plexa wrote: Also, if Jaedong wins it will be the first ever ZvZ OSL final.


Progamer Korea Open, which is the first OSL, (well, kinda) had a ZvZ final - Freemura vs TheBoy


The Tooniverse StarLeagues qualify as the first OSL`s, since Tooniverse belongs under the same television network as OnGameNet. Considering that gaming was stigmatised even in Korea back in the late 90`s, I seriously doubt the Progamer Korea Open was ever televised or even recorded.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 11 2009 17:42 GMT
#136
Go Jaedong! Get revenge~
Chance favors the prepared mind.
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
August 11 2009 17:43 GMT
#137
On August 11 2009 00:39 sh02hp0869 wrote:
Hahah Jaedong will kill Fantasy. Fantasy can only win if Jd slips up or if out smart JD. He can never beat him straight - and in a best of 5? no way!


Slips up? or out smart?... Both are a part of straight game... LOL?
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-11 18:14:19
August 11 2009 18:12 GMT
#138
On August 11 2009 01:02 EvoChamber wrote:
Show nested quote +
Cell was an villain who defeated others and stole their strength by draining their energy with his tail. Every time he defeated someone he became more powerful, to the point where he was basically unstoppable.


I forget, how did Cell die again?

Excellent writeup.

spirit bomb i think.

jaedong will win this osl. hell come back from 0-2 and win 3 games straight like he did last time.
Heaven came down and glory filled my soul, when at the cross the Savior made me whole
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
August 11 2009 18:41 GMT
#139
what a writeup awesome! haha go Jaedong, die Fantasy.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 11 2009 19:11 GMT
#140
Why even hold type.b v yarnac.

Whoever wins Fantasy v Jaedong will win the finals 100%, making for one of the worst possible finals in recent memory (calling it now).
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