In September 2004, mensrea wrote out the original Ten Commandments. His reasons were doing so were as follows:
These commandments are simply a codification of the unspoken and informal rules with which we have been using to run this site. Nothing has changed. We would have liked to have kept things at an informal level, but there are simply too many new users for us to handle each and everytime someone new gets out of line. And if someone new does get out of line, it's easy to say "well, that guy was an idiot." But, we thought some responsibility lay with us also for not posting the rules for people to see so they would know how to govern themselves accordingly.
Since September 2004, the number of users per day on TeamLiquid has jumped from four thousand people per day to an average of twenty seven thousand. Needless to say, this massive influx of new users has presented incredible new challenges to the forum and staff. In addition, the online culture of today has new realities that were inconceivable five short years ago.
Today, on the eve of SC2, we are re-releasing the Ten Commandments. The changes are subtle, but important.
If you are a forum veteran, I urge you to read these rules and reflect upon them. With this re-release will come greater enforcement. It is your responsibility to be a good example.
If you are new here, take these rules seriously. TeamLiquid is not an anonymous forum on the internet. People here have been together for a long time, and have forged real bonds. When you post, you are adding your new voice into a well established discourse. Do not do so lightly.
Welcome to our site. Before you begin posting, please read this thread. These commands will help you get the most out of your experience here. Following them makes our forum a better place for everyone. If you don't, you will receive warnings and possibly be temporarily banned. If you continue to break them, we will remove you permanently from our forums. We don't want to do this, so please think before you post.
The Commandments are in no particular order. They're all equally important.
You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not a "for profit" enterprise. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions (Website Feedback Forum). But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply IP ban you. If we're really pissed off, then we IP ban you AND nuke every single post you've uploaded to the site - ever. It will be as if you had never existed here. This is our house. You've been warned.
2. THOU SHALT OBSERVE FORUM ETIQUETTE
Common sense, people, common sense. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. (And if you happen to be into masochism, then you're at the wrong site, anyway.)
This doesn't mean you can't get verbally medieval on someone's ass every once in a while. We don't run the place like a monastery. But, flames are generally discouraged and we expect people to have a damn good reason for resorting to harsh language in the forums. This means gratuitous swearing is a no-no. Generic trolling will get you banned. If you must flame, be smart or creative about it, and make sure the flame was warranted to begin with. Generally, you'll never go wrong by being nice, polite and mature. All just common sense, people.
There are also a number of Rules of Posting in our forums. Take the time to observe and learn them. There are way too many to recite here, but the following are a few important examples:
Tasteless jokes at the expense of someone's race, gender, or sexual orientation are not acceptable. Nobody likes to be called a name.
Do not post in ALL CAPS. It sounds like you are screaming.
Post your topics in the appropriate forum. If you can't find a topic you created, it might have been closed (Closed Forum).
Don't be an attention whore and give away the results of games, sporting events, movie endings, etc. in the title of the thread/post. Also, if you're going to reveal stuff in the body of your post, then be decent enough to use the + Show Spoiler +
spoiler code.
Don't be a drama queen martyr. TeamLiquid isn't colonial America or Tienanmen Square. You do not need to preemptively declare "I'm going to be banned for this..." or "ban me, I don't care." Our Moderators ban for good reasons. If they read someone acting like a martyr, they'll simply treat it as a request to be banned.
Before you create a new thread, make sure to use the search function to make sure there isn't already a thread about the topic.
Only bump old threads if you have something new and significant to add to them.
Use the search function. It's better than Google and it works because whatever questions you may have, chances are we've already discussed it before ad nauseum. Did a search already and you still don't know? Ask politely!
Memes, even TL ones, are annoying. Don't 1a2a3a your way to posting over 9000 memes -- we will ban you. There are plenty of places to go if you want to see posters of people failing at things or a humorous caption appended to a photograph of a cat. TeamLiquid is not one of those places.
3. THOU SHALT THINK BEFORE POSTING
Please, think before you chime in with your opinion on a given post or series of posts. There will usually be some history behind a given exchange in our forums, so take the time to observe what might really be going on and put the conversation into context before you decide who's "right" and who's "wrong." Above all, take into account who is posting - context is everything. Chirping in with your grossly uninformed opinions will only make you look dumb and irritate the heck out of the people who do know what's going on.
Remember, there's a reason why we do things around here. Our Moderators are not power hungry, unreasonable people with agendas against specific users. If they ban someone, there was probably a very good reason for it. If you believe a certain ban was a mistake, you can contact a Mod through PM or in our IRC channel, but please be respectful about it. Do not take things into your own hands by posting "Ban?" or telling users they will be banned. You PM Moderators to let them know about specific posts or threads, but let them handle it after that.
Finally, do not post for the sake of posting. While it is sometimes acceptable to support another person's view point, doing so by adding "+1", or quoting while adding nothing at all, is not an appropriate post.
4. THOU SHALT CONTRIBUTE TO THE SITE
Contribute to the site. Everyone should pitch in. Some people contribute by being helpful when someone posts a question. Some people contribute by writing interesting posts that stimulate discussion or by uploading relevant and useful facts and information. Some people contribute by posting news from the gaming world. Others contribute by providing resources allowing us all to enjoy this game. Still others contribute by simply making everyone laugh. Contribution can take many forms and there's no single prescribed way to go about it. But, like good micro, we know it when we see it. Many contributors will have stars or special icons by their name. It's not a license to do anything they want, but good contributors will always get favorable treatment.
For you this means, when you create a new thread, make sure to include content worth discussing in it. A link or youtube video is not enough. An opening post should set the tone for discussion by being thoughtful and well constructed. We will not hesitate to close threads that don't have enough OP content.
5. THOU SHALT NOT SPAM
Do not spam. Do not spam. Do not spam. Do not spam. Do not spam. Do not spam. Do not spam.
Spam our site and you die. Advertise pyramid schemes (it's been tried before) and you die. Post/link/request illegal stuff (CD keys, warez, serialz, copyrighted materials, actual threats of bodily harm, etc.) and you die. We'd rather ban you than receive a cease and desist letter from some lawyer or anal retentive parents' organization.
This includes non-StarCraft related voting campaigns (vote for my friend in this contest!) or blatant threads asking for homework advice (how do I solve this equation??). TeamLiquid is not your personal army. It is not a substitute for Google or a tool for lazy students. We're here to discuss things and have fun, not for your own selfish needs.
You've been warned.
6. THOU SHALT RESPECT FORUM VETERANS
All other things being equal, we will give preferential treatment to site members who have been with us longer (as reflected in their post count + length of time with us as a registered member). It's a simple recognition of the quality of these people. Longevity and contribution are prized commodities around here. In a similar vein, "known" pro/semi-pro players will also be treated with deference (yes, quite a few hang out here). Don't complain - these guys have earned it.
Remember: we ban little kids all the time because they sign on thinking they can say and do whatever they want to whomever they want right from the get-go - just like they're used to doing at other sites. That attitude won't work here. That's a promise. As far as new users are concerned (i.e. anyone with less than 1000 or so quality posts to their name), this site is Holy Ground. The veterans are the users who've consistently shown respect to the site and to others and that's why they're still here. Show them some respect.
In practice, this policy means a user who has thousands of posts may be able to get away with a few minor transgressions in etiquette with just a warning. If you're at 50 posts and you try the same kind of stunt, then we may just ban you. Harsh? Yes. Unfair? Most definitely. But that's the way life is. Learn to live with it.
This also means you should think twice before calling that guy with 5000+ posts a jackass. If the guy's been with us that long, chances are YOU'RE the one being an idiot. Some battles are just not worth fighting - just move on.
7. ENGLISH IS THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE
Ceci est un site anglophone.
Ver sa vennlig a benytt engelsk pa disse sidene.
Engels is de officiele taal van deze site, gaarne geen andere taal gebruiken dan Engels.
영어 전용 사이트입니다. 영어를 사용 해주세요.
このサイトは英語を共通語とするので、サイトへの書き込みは原則として英語でお願いします。
Diese Seite ist offiziell in Englisch gehalten.
Ingles es el lenguaje oficial de este sitio.
Use English, and please make at least a moderate attempt to spell check and type coherently. It doesn't matter how brilliant or insightful your posts are if nobody can understand them.
8. THOU SHALT RESPECT YOUR ID
This means you don't use clones or aliases or any other form of obfuscation of identity (other than the ID you first signed on with). Try any skullduggery with your ID and you get an automatic ban. We can see your IPs in real-time and if we even suspect someone's abusing, we just ban you. So, don't even try it. It's not worth it.
Also, don't use IDs containing weird characters, symbols, smiley faces, geometric shapes or any combination of the same. The last thing we need here are fan club members of the Artist Formerly Known as Prince moving in and setting up shop. Finally, crude and offensive usernames will be banned. Do you really want to be known as LayZeeDick anyway?
In limited circumstances we do allow users to change their IDs later on, but we generally discourage it. It's all about respecting your own name. If you have a legitimate reason for changing IDs (for example, you need to change your clan tag), let us know in the Website Feedback Forum and we'll be happy to accommodate.
A comment about your country of origin. It's all up to you what country you decide to put in your profile - but, why the heck would you want to lie about the country you're from? We've had members think it's "funny" to put "Afghanistan" in their profile for the heck of it. Some even put down nothing. Maybe it may seem cool or different to some. But, to us it's really the farthest thing from "cool" - and it's "different" in the most negative way possible. Users who are juvenile enough to lie to everyone about where they're from don't tend to last very long on our site. If you don't respect your own name and where you are from (or where you happen to be), why should anyone else?
All just common sense.
9. READ THE COMMANDMENTS
Read these Commandments. Pleading ignorance will not get you anywhere. If you just registered, make your first post here!
10. THOU SHALT HAVE FUN
It's a fun site with fun people. Have fun with it. Enjoy it. Make others happy. Be happy. Avoid being negative. We don't expect you to be Pollyanna, but users who are consistently negative will draw the ire of their peers and site staff alike. No one likes people who have nothing but bad things to say all the time. Heed the admonition of Oscar Wilde: some people bring happiness wherever they go, others whenever they go.
i put a lot of effort to post causually, and to make it interesting... and to follow all these guidelines as well. this is indeed a great site... ill be around for quite a while.
ty for moderating any 'tards that make themselves apparent.
Uh-oh. "Don't 1a2a3a your way to posting over 9000 memes -- we will ban you." - Clever. ^ ^ I didn't notice any obvious updates but this was easier to read than the original. It's a long read though so I doubt that people who will break these laws will have read them in the first place.
new member, and i really must say that these rules are what makes TL such a great site. Far to many forums are littered with trolls, pointless topics, attention whores, and many other less-than-desireable things.
-But, flames are generally discouraged and we expect people to have a damn good reason for resorting to harsh language in the forums. This means gratuitous swearing is a no-no. Generic trolling will get you banned.
-Tasteless jokes at the expense of someone's race, gender, or sexual orientation are not acceptable. Nobody likes to be called a name.
-Do not post in ALL CAPS. It sounds like you are screaming.
-Finally, do not post for the sake of posting. While it is sometimes acceptable to support another person's view point, doing so by adding "+1", or quoting while adding nothing at all, is not an appropriate post.
-Also, don't use IDs containing weird characters, symbols, smiley faces, geometric shapes or any combination of the same.
-Users who are juvenile enough to lie to everyone about where they're from don't tend to last very long on our site.
-It's a fun site with fun people. Have fun with it. Enjoy it. Make others happy. Be happy. Avoid being negative.
Pretty much not taken seriously at all. Hopefully this re-release will do something about that.
Ah cool, an updated revised version of the TL commandments, hopefully now, we can see less out-of-line random newbies and pplz posting unnecessary stuff... Good job!!
Also, that eye scares me..... maybe if I have that eye on my icon (or *cough* a Carrier *cough*), then I would be so happy!!! :D
"Do not take things into your own hands by posting 'Ban?' ..." This seems at odds with the existence of the emote - I guess it's only supposed to be used jokingly?
Under "English is the official language", it would be good to include it in Chinese. A lot of SC players come from China, and it would be nice to show that we cater to them too (even if it's by telling them not to post in Chinese).
Do not post in ALL CAPS. It sounds like you are screaming.
unless you're posting in an LR thread, in which case you actually are screaming
Before you create a new thread, make sure to use the search function to make sure there isn't already a thread about the topic.
should put this at the top, in big font, bold, and underlined
quoting while adding nothing at all, is not an appropriate post.
aw this isn't allowed?
For you this means, when you create a new thread, make sure to include content worth discussing in it. A link or youtube video is not enough.
youtube thread
This includes non-StarCraft related voting campaigns (vote for my friend in this contest!) or blatant threads asking for homework advice (how do I solve this equation??).
blogs
I dunno where/what the revisions are, but this edition looks great
I'm so tempted to write nothing but 1a2a3a in this post.... or typing in all caps swearing at every moderator on the board while declaring I'm going to be banned for it. And of course it would have to be copy/pasted a dozen times hidden in 100 spoiler tags, all in different languages of course. I would also have to spoil a bunch of games as the opening sentence.
Oh, and ask for a cd-key again, rule breaking is so much more fun.
What happened to the "Using fucking english, please." ? Nice that this is being re-released though. It seems like the only reason most people read the old one was to see the funny SCV posts where people were like "Yes, sir!" Not that they weren't cute...
On July 15 2009 15:03 Perguvious wrote: "Tasteless jokes at the expense of someone's race, gender, or sexual orientation are not acceptable. Nobody likes to be called a name."
Got kind of confused there, can you use a word other than "tasteless"?
I was going to say that as well.
No Tasteless jokes = all we have left to pick on is Day... lets try and keep it in the family!
Though in seriousness, I finally finished reading it all, good stuff.
This includes non-StarCraft related voting campaigns (vote for my friend in this contest!) or blatant threads asking for homework advice (how do I solve this equation??).
blogs
I dunno where/what the revisions are, but this edition looks great
Contrary to what you may believe, issuing a set of rules does not cause the problems to disappear. It just provides a reference of expected behavior.
On July 15 2009 15:07 251 wrote: this site is literally going to implode on itself once SC2 is released. I hope the mods are ready for the surge and thus, purge
im volunteering to moderate these bitches for you all if you need some extra hands on deck. all my posts r good u can check. i spend a couple hours a day here anyways.
and this is also a good point- but im hoping its a good thing, and that TL will emerge as THE SC2 site... foreva
On July 15 2009 15:00 cUrsOr wrote: Im going to copy and paste some of these back to people who are doing them, when they do it. lol. ill be like BatMan
On July 15 2009 15:07 251 wrote: this site is literally going to implode on itself once SC2 is released. I hope the mods are ready for the surge and thus, purge
im volunteering to moderate these bitches for you all if you need some extra hands on deck. all my posts r good u can check. i spend a couple hours a day here anyways.
and this is also a good point- but im hoping its a good thing, and that TL will emerge as THE SC2 site... foreva
Use English, and please make at least a moderate attempt to spell check and type coherently. It doesn't matter how brilliant or insightful your posts are if nobody can understand them.
for a second there I thought the post said that Tastless makes racist/sexist jokes while commentating o.O not sure exactly what was updated but then again I never really read the original commandments that carefully
Rules read and understood, indeed nice with a rittle revamp once in a while.
And I know this is nitpicking, but the second sentence under §7 isn't using the scandinavian letters: "Ver sa vennlig a benytt engelsk pa disse sidene."
The correct way should be: "Vær så vennlig å benytt engelsk på disse sidene."
It's no big deal ofcourse, but since you're already using the korean/chinese "letters" then I thought why not these ones as well.
Use English, and please make at least a moderate attempt to spell check and type coherently. It doesn't matter how brilliant or insightful your posts are if nobody can understand them.
in Vietnamese:
7. Tiếng Anh là ngôn ngữ chính thức tại đây.
Hãy sử dụng tiếng Anh, nhớ kiểm tra lỗi chính tả và ngữ pháp. Cho dù bài viết của bạn hay đến đâu nhưng nếu người khác không hiểu được thì cũng chẳng có ý nghĩa gì.
With all respect to all veterans, instead of: 6. THOU SHALT RESPECT FORUM VETERANS there should/could be 6. THOU SHALT RESPECT FORUM ALL MEMBERS Some time ago I saw some veteran (more than 10k posts) making offtop (dunno why). He had in that thread 3 or 4 posts with no connection to topic at all ;o (except the one, where he asked about what all users saw in the first post... later there he said he knew that, so what was a purpose? +1 in stats? dunno).
Anyway with so many members, it could be a great idea to make sth like "report this post to moderators/admins" with reason and who reported (just to be sure no spam here, if someone gonna make fun in that).
NeSeNVi, you dont get to 10k posts with all well thought out posts with perfect grammar. sometimes you just gotta bulk it up a bit. if i could report a mod i wouldnt do it... cause they like to ban people and it would be like saying "look at me... im causing trouble n stuff"
General forum etiquette that most people who are veterans of frankly, the internet, let alone forums should know, but still sadly needs to be said, as alot of people are just idiots and will act however they please, though in this case, they've been prewarned and will thus be promptly banned.
Although I think the "good porn" part in section 4 is a bit immature, you might want to remove it.
Oh and about veterans posting, I'm not sure exactly who qualifies as a veteran but some people *cough* Paper *cough* don't seem to be able to post anything worthwhile, and do the "lol" and "+1" posts all the time.
I get the part about being lenient towards forum veterans, but shouldn't they also set the standards a bit and post in acceptable ways?
Btw the inControl girlfriend thing is alright imo, but are people also supporting her "campaign" with money on the forurms? In exchange they will see swimsuit pictures. I think this one is a bit iffy and it seems like inControl is using this website pretty hard. I mean voting is one thing but have people you don't know send money in order to see hot pics of your girlfriend...there's something morally wrong with the whole thing.
"All other things being equal, we will give preferential treatment to site members who have been with us longer (as reflected in their post count + length of time with us as a registered member). It's a simple recognition of the quality of these people. Longevity and contribution are prized commodities around here. In a similar vein, "known" pro/semi-pro players will also be treated with deference (yes, quite a few hang out here). Don't complain - these guys have earned it.
Remember: we ban little kids all the time because they sign on thinking they can say and do whatever they want to whomever they want right from the get-go - just like they're used to doing at other sites. That attitude won't work here. That's a promise. As far as new users are concerned (i.e. anyone with less than 1000 or so quality posts to their name), this site is Holy Ground. The veterans are the users who've consistently shown respect to the site and to others and that's why they're still here. Show them some respect.
In practice, this policy means a user who has thousands of posts may be able to get away with a few minor transgressions in etiquette with just a warning. If you're at 50 posts and you try the same kind of stunt, then we may just ban you. Harsh? Yes. Unfair? Most definitely. But that's the way life is. Learn to live with it.
This also means you should think twice before calling that guy with 5000+ posts a jackass. If the guy's been with us that long, chances are YOU'RE the one being an idiot. Some battles are just not worth fighting - just move on."
Man i really should have read more closely before i started to post here
On July 15 2009 17:48 Osmoses wrote: Aw, you edited away some of my favorite parts of the old commandments Less jokey more seriousy now.
I think they did this because as you join the site this is the first thread they are linked to
On July 15 2009 14:53 Ack1027 wrote: Read and understood, yet:
-But, flames are generally discouraged and we expect people to have a damn good reason for resorting to harsh language in the forums. This means gratuitous swearing is a no-no. Generic trolling will get you banned.
-Tasteless jokes at the expense of someone's race, gender, or sexual orientation are not acceptable. Nobody likes to be called a name.
-Do not post in ALL CAPS. It sounds like you are screaming.
-Finally, do not post for the sake of posting. While it is sometimes acceptable to support another person's view point, doing so by adding "+1", or quoting while adding nothing at all, is not an appropriate post.
-Also, don't use IDs containing weird characters, symbols, smiley faces, geometric shapes or any combination of the same.
-Users who are juvenile enough to lie to everyone about where they're from don't tend to last very long on our site.
-It's a fun site with fun people. Have fun with it. Enjoy it. Make others happy. Be happy. Avoid being negative.
Pretty much not taken seriously at all. Hopefully this re-release will do something about that.
Definitely, but the two I highlighted I think are the most ignored out of the bunch.
Actually beeing new to this site I enjoyed surfing on it and using its content quite a lot. But only this news has made me whish to register here ^^. I highly appreciate those rules.
"Finally, do not post for the sake of posting. While it is sometimes acceptable to support another person's view point, doing so by adding "+1", or quoting while adding nothing at all, is not an appropriate post."
That is a great point, I have seen MULTIPLE posts where people just quote someone else and add in "+1", "me too" or yeah man. Please add insight not only agree with a person, or take credit for their work.
basically the same as the ol' commandments, with the new memes as prohibited. Anyway it's a great idea to refresh the minds of people this is not just about any site
it looks like i've actually broke a lot of the rules before, from the +1's to making blogs about homework, to quoting and not posting anything else... XD
On July 15 2009 14:00 Manifesto7 wrote: [*] Do not post in ALL CAPS. It sounds like you are screaming.
Just a quick question on this one. Will leniency be granted in Live Report threads? I know that at times, the live reporter (both biased and unbiased) can sometimes express enthusiasm in their live reports and in the spur of the moment, all caps come out as a way to express something big's happened or something's changed the tide of the game.
On July 15 2009 14:00 Manifesto7 wrote: [*] Do not post in ALL CAPS. It sounds like you are screaming.
Just a quick question on this one. Will leniency be granted in Live Report threads? I know that at times, the live reporter (both biased and unbiased) can sometimes express enthusiasm in their live reports and in the spur of the moment, all caps come out as a way to express something big's happened or something's changed the tide of the game.
Just asking for clarification.
If realpenguin hasn't been banned for this yet then it's probably OK.
On July 15 2009 23:28 YPang wrote: it looks like i've actually broke a lot of the rules before, from the +1's to making blogs about homework, to quoting and not posting anything else... XD
I don't think blogs count for the homework thing. I think they want to keep that kind of stuff out of general.
Harsh? Yes. Unfair? Most definitely. But that's the way life is. Learn to live with it.
On July 15 2009 23:28 YPang wrote: it looks like i've actually broke a lot of the rules before, from the +1's to making blogs about homework, to quoting and not posting anything else... XD
I don't think blogs count for the homework thing. I think they want to keep that kind of stuff out of general.
On July 16 2009 01:02 PokePill wrote: Thou shall not use the blog section to blog about things mods do not like or thou shall be banned.
Pretty much. I don't see what's wrong with this, because every forum on the internet closes every thread their mods don't like. What other standard is there?
Thank you, Mani. This is much needed. You should automatically be linked to this post when you sign on for the first time, if it doesn't do that already.
I sure hope number 2 actually gets inforced this time. I am looking forward to a lot of bannings. TL needs to actually live up to their reputation of being strict, because I think the moderation around here is quite lax.
Here at 'the Rock,' we have two basic rules. Memorize them so you can say them in your sleep. Rule One: Obey all rules! Second, do not write on the walls...as it takes a lot of work...to erase writing...off of walls.
Now if only people would actually follow these rules...
Also, the time of reckoning for SCIENCE is rapidly approaching! Either the SC2 Beta comes out (or is at least announced) in the next few days, or all SCIENCE will have been conclusively proven wrong (including the existence of gravity, the Theory of Relativity, etc). This would, of course, be a major catastrophe, since without gravity our world would immediately spin out into deep space, leading to the extinction of all life on Earth.
The fate of the the world rests in your hands, Blizzard! Give us beta!
The main difference I noticed is that coarse language is now restricted.
Edit: I know double-posting is frowned upon, but should we formally say "no except _____" to it as a sub-point to one of the commandments, say, spamming?
I'd change "Diese Seite ist offiziell in Englisch gehalten." to "Die offizielle Sprache dieser Webseite ist Englisch" on the 7th commandment.
That line just makes more sense if you want to express that English is the language to be used while posting otherwise you just refer to the fact that this page is officially in English.
I sure hope number 2 actually gets inforced this time. I am looking forward to a lot of bannings. TL needs to actually live up to their reputation of being strict, because I think the moderation around here is quite lax.
I'm pretty sure they mean meme in the 4chan sense, rather than the Richard Dawkins/Biological sense lol. I don't think you'll get yo' collective ass whooped if, for example, you use colloquialisms... Although that being said, I'd have to agree that spreading 'bad/unthoughtful' meme's is also pretty damn annoying...
I will try to respect these rules. However, I would like to see forum veterans put under better check. I often see some of these veterans causing the worst offenses.
On July 16 2009 10:01 simfarm wrote: I will try to respect these rules. However, I would like to see forum veterans put under better check. I often see some of these veterans causing the worst offenses.
Well, most of the veterans who cause offenses more than make up for it with an equal amount of quality posts and/or big contributions. They all know when they can screw around and when to respond seriously. And people with 5000+ posts DO get banned so it's not like you can do whatever you want when you hit X posts.
I always liked the commandments. Many people on the outside told me "TL is so elitist" but the commandments just make sense. I'm a forum vet on another site (not the little newbie I am here) and I just think it makes sense to treat the old contributors with a little more leeway than others. They really have earned it.
Good update. Mostly the same, but clarifies some important issues where the boundaries had previously been vague. Things like homework threads or "vote for my friend" are now officially banned.
Hey, "use the f--king English" from the original commandments has been changed...that was the most memorable line from the original to me and the one that I have perfectly observed!!!
I'm a new member but I love this site. Better than any forums website i've gone. The rules are good, topics are helpful and fun, and people are nice. Keep it up and you guys really rock. TL FTW
So yeah...I hope that the 10 commandments telling me to make my first post here is a good enough reason to be bumping this after two months of inactivity.
EPT
emote - I guess it's only supposed to be used jokingly?
Good to refresh myself on these.
Less jokey more seriousy now.
