• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:33
CEST 11:33
KST 18:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)10Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy5Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week2Firefly suspended by EWC, replaced by Lancer12Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey.8Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)14
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 SOOP Starcraft Global #22 $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu ASL20 Preliminary Maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - WB Finals & LBR3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Echoes of Revolution and Separation
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 32831 users

[MSL] Avalon Ro32 Conclusion - Page 3

Forum Index > News
70 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
July 06 2009 05:37 GMT
#41
On July 06 2009 09:11 fishyjoes wrote:
Hot_Bit you are my hero! :D Your writeups are always awesome.

Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
July 06 2009 06:56 GMT
#42
Your stuff feels very professional and i really like to read it! Go Hot_Bid
zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
July 06 2009 07:02 GMT
#43
Bisu vs Fantasy happening waay too early
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
July 06 2009 07:07 GMT
#44
bisu vs fantas would have been a great final ~
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
July 06 2009 07:08 GMT
#45
Some extremely good matches coming up. Can't wait for ro16!
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 06 2009 08:18 GMT
#46
Very nice recap of the MSL. I enjoyed reading it.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
July 06 2009 08:23 GMT
#47
Very nice writeup!
Thanks Hot_bid.Im getting there to understand it :D
one question thou:They gonna play one game this week and then next week 1 or 2 game it its needed since its bo3?
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
July 06 2009 08:50 GMT
#48
Predictions! Based on nothing but my gut, of course:

(P)Pure > (Z)ZerO
--There's something about Zero's play that I just don't trust...
(Z)EffOrt > (T)UpMaGiC
--This could get ugly.
(T)Canata > (T)PianO
--Canata finally breaks through!... Maybe.
(T)fantasy > (P)Bisu
--Fantasy cruises; Bisu smiles in disbelief.
(Z)Jaedong > (P)Kal
--Kal won't roll over, but he will get rolled regardless.
(Z)Kwanro > (T)Flash
--A bandwagon upset pick? No, I just like Kwanro
(T)Iris > (T)Hwasin
--Good to see Iris back in form.
(Z)Calm > (T)fOrGG
--Guardians will be used.

Flash/Kwanro should be the best series.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 06 2009 09:14 GMT
#49
On July 06 2009 12:17 Lamprey wrote:
Nice article.

One peeve:

How does everyone view Fantasy as an underdog even now? He's the best terran without a doubt. If you seriously think Flash or Leta is better than Fantasy you're drinking the koolaid too much. Fantasy is going to beat Bisu and it isn't going to be close.


Best T TvP wise for sure. Flash still comes close to that but plays too safe unlike fantasy. But Flash claims the best TvT, and I would say in a series Leta is almost unstoppable with all his builds in his arsenal and his insane execution. 1 mu does not make you the best Terran there is. If anything Flash is the most well rounded Terran between the 3.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
July 06 2009 10:21 GMT
#50
I hope that JD and Flash get's knocked out..
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 06 2009 14:19 GMT
#51
On July 06 2009 09:15 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 09:11 fishyjoes wrote:
Hot_Bit you are my hero! :D Your writeups are always awesome.

Thanks for the kind words, but honestly I'm not very satisfied with these writeups, because you can't do in depth analysis or make funny or creative comments about them because there's just too many games. Nobody is going to read recaps and analysis of 40 games in the Ro32, its just too much. That's why I'm trying to summarize as quickly as possible and keep everyone up to speed until the Ro16 onward, when it becomes much more fun to be a newswriter.


Your right L

but your write ups for the next games will be epic for sure
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
July 06 2009 15:09 GMT
#52
NaDa and sAviOr
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 06 2009 16:16 GMT
#53
On July 06 2009 13:10 reincremate wrote:
I predict ForGG vs Flash in the semifinals and ForGG vs Jaedong rematch in the finals, despite ForGG's lackluster play. Basically Arena MSL part 2. I base this prediction on absolutely nothing.


Good because there's no way in a million years ForGG reaches the finals
beep boop
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 06 2009 16:37 GMT
#54
On July 06 2009 18:14 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 12:17 Lamprey wrote:
Nice article.

One peeve:

How does everyone view Fantasy as an underdog even now? He's the best terran without a doubt. If you seriously think Flash or Leta is better than Fantasy you're drinking the koolaid too much. Fantasy is going to beat Bisu and it isn't going to be close.


Best T TvP wise for sure. Flash still comes close to that but plays too safe unlike fantasy. But Flash claims the best TvT, and I would say in a series Leta is almost unstoppable with all his builds in his arsenal and his insane execution. 1 mu does not make you the best Terran there is. If anything Flash is the most well rounded Terran between the 3.


Well you have to admit that Fantasy's TvZ > Flash's TvZ nowadays. TvZ was never Flash's strong matchup anyway. But I think Fantasy's TvP = Flash's TvP. And Flash's TvT > Fantasy's TvT.
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
July 06 2009 16:47 GMT
#55
Conclusion of the Avalon Ro32:

SAvior has lost his balls!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 06 2009 17:26 GMT
#56
I really don't get how jaedong won vs movie with his unit comp at mid game TT
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
July 06 2009 17:31 GMT
#57
EffOrt takes his first title t.t
Entusman #51
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
July 06 2009 17:59 GMT
#58
On July 07 2009 01:37 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 18:14 samachking wrote:
On July 06 2009 12:17 Lamprey wrote:
Nice article.

One peeve:

How does everyone view Fantasy as an underdog even now? He's the best terran without a doubt. If you seriously think Flash or Leta is better than Fantasy you're drinking the koolaid too much. Fantasy is going to beat Bisu and it isn't going to be close.


Best T TvP wise for sure. Flash still comes close to that but plays too safe unlike fantasy. But Flash claims the best TvT, and I would say in a series Leta is almost unstoppable with all his builds in his arsenal and his insane execution. 1 mu does not make you the best Terran there is. If anything Flash is the most well rounded Terran between the 3.


Well you have to admit that Fantasy's TvZ > Flash's TvZ nowadays. TvZ was never Flash's strong matchup anyway. But I think Fantasy's TvP = Flash's TvP. And Flash's TvT > Fantasy's TvT.


TvT: Flash > Fantasy
TvZ: Fantasy > Flash (TvZ is always the bane of Flash in individual leagues, whereas Fantasy thrives on it.)
TvP: Fantasy > Flash (Top protosses can and do take advantage of Flash's predictability. He needs to reinvent his TvP asap.)

At this moment in time I think Fantasy is more dangerous than Flash. He's quite capable of playing against Bisu on even footing. This deserves to be a semifinals match, it's too bad it will only be Ro16.

May the BeSt man win.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
July 06 2009 18:14 GMT
#59
Calm vs Forgg...guardians will be used? Lol if by guardians you mean 2 hatch lurkers or 2/3 hatch speedling then ya. I personally forgg will show calm who the pretender is in this series, though based on current level of play Calm should be favored, but its TvZ if it gets to late game forgg is definitely the favorite. I think at the end of the series we see forgg walking away with the V and his theme song, most likely to be eliminated in the next round.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
July 06 2009 19:08 GMT
#60
thanks for the writeup, enjoyed it a lot... fantasy will roll over bisu but im also afraid that somehow Jaedong is gonna lose to Kal, let's hope not!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 27m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 7930
Hyuk 612
Bisu 583
Mong 351
actioN 313
Leta 145
Pusan 137
JulyZerg 101
PianO 101
Dewaltoss 77
[ Show more ]
Barracks 60
ToSsGirL 56
NaDa 34
soO 27
Aegong 21
Sacsri 15
Movie 14
IntoTheRainbow 11
ivOry 9
Dota 2
XaKoH 512
XcaliburYe372
PGG 170
febbydoto21
League of Legends
JimRising 491
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1266
shoxiejesuss886
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0295
Other Games
ceh9745
singsing643
DeMusliM65
SortOf62
Trikslyr32
ArmadaUGS0
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick504
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH328
• LUISG 23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt789
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
27m
Reynor vs Scarlett
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Rex10
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5h 27m
OSC
9h 27m
Replay Cast
16h 27m
SOOP
23h 27m
Cure vs Zoun
SC Evo League
1d 2h
Road to EWC
1d 4h
SOOP Global
1d 5h
FuturE vs MaNa
Harstem vs Cham
BSL: ProLeague
1d 8h
Sziky vs JDConan
Cross vs MadiNho
Hawk vs Bonyth
Circuito Brasileiro de…
1d 10h
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Road to EWC
2 days
BSL: ProLeague
2 days
UltrA vs TBD
Dewalt vs TBD
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #3 - GSC
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

NPSL Lushan
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.