• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:15
CET 19:15
KST 03:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage0Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION3
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" [TLCH] Mission 7: Last Stand Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Monday Nights Weeklies SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw on 'Experimental' Nonstandard Maps in ASL Finding world war 2 allied hope / final players? BW General Discussion [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
AI is so fuckin funny
Peanutsc
Challenge: Maths isn't all…
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1798 users

[MSL] Avalon Ro32 Conclusion - Page 3

Forum Index > News
70 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
July 06 2009 05:37 GMT
#41
On July 06 2009 09:11 fishyjoes wrote:
Hot_Bit you are my hero! :D Your writeups are always awesome.

Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
July 06 2009 06:56 GMT
#42
Your stuff feels very professional and i really like to read it! Go Hot_Bid
zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
July 06 2009 07:02 GMT
#43
Bisu vs Fantasy happening waay too early
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
July 06 2009 07:07 GMT
#44
bisu vs fantas would have been a great final ~
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
July 06 2009 07:08 GMT
#45
Some extremely good matches coming up. Can't wait for ro16!
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 06 2009 08:18 GMT
#46
Very nice recap of the MSL. I enjoyed reading it.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
July 06 2009 08:23 GMT
#47
Very nice writeup!
Thanks Hot_bid.Im getting there to understand it :D
one question thou:They gonna play one game this week and then next week 1 or 2 game it its needed since its bo3?
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
July 06 2009 08:50 GMT
#48
Predictions! Based on nothing but my gut, of course:

(P)Pure > (Z)ZerO
--There's something about Zero's play that I just don't trust...
(Z)EffOrt > (T)UpMaGiC
--This could get ugly.
(T)Canata > (T)PianO
--Canata finally breaks through!... Maybe.
(T)fantasy > (P)Bisu
--Fantasy cruises; Bisu smiles in disbelief.
(Z)Jaedong > (P)Kal
--Kal won't roll over, but he will get rolled regardless.
(Z)Kwanro > (T)Flash
--A bandwagon upset pick? No, I just like Kwanro
(T)Iris > (T)Hwasin
--Good to see Iris back in form.
(Z)Calm > (T)fOrGG
--Guardians will be used.

Flash/Kwanro should be the best series.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 06 2009 09:14 GMT
#49
On July 06 2009 12:17 Lamprey wrote:
Nice article.

One peeve:

How does everyone view Fantasy as an underdog even now? He's the best terran without a doubt. If you seriously think Flash or Leta is better than Fantasy you're drinking the koolaid too much. Fantasy is going to beat Bisu and it isn't going to be close.


Best T TvP wise for sure. Flash still comes close to that but plays too safe unlike fantasy. But Flash claims the best TvT, and I would say in a series Leta is almost unstoppable with all his builds in his arsenal and his insane execution. 1 mu does not make you the best Terran there is. If anything Flash is the most well rounded Terran between the 3.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
July 06 2009 10:21 GMT
#50
I hope that JD and Flash get's knocked out..
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 06 2009 14:19 GMT
#51
On July 06 2009 09:15 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 09:11 fishyjoes wrote:
Hot_Bit you are my hero! :D Your writeups are always awesome.

Thanks for the kind words, but honestly I'm not very satisfied with these writeups, because you can't do in depth analysis or make funny or creative comments about them because there's just too many games. Nobody is going to read recaps and analysis of 40 games in the Ro32, its just too much. That's why I'm trying to summarize as quickly as possible and keep everyone up to speed until the Ro16 onward, when it becomes much more fun to be a newswriter.


Your right L

but your write ups for the next games will be epic for sure
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
July 06 2009 15:09 GMT
#52
NaDa and sAviOr
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 06 2009 16:16 GMT
#53
On July 06 2009 13:10 reincremate wrote:
I predict ForGG vs Flash in the semifinals and ForGG vs Jaedong rematch in the finals, despite ForGG's lackluster play. Basically Arena MSL part 2. I base this prediction on absolutely nothing.


Good because there's no way in a million years ForGG reaches the finals
beep boop
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 06 2009 16:37 GMT
#54
On July 06 2009 18:14 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 12:17 Lamprey wrote:
Nice article.

One peeve:

How does everyone view Fantasy as an underdog even now? He's the best terran without a doubt. If you seriously think Flash or Leta is better than Fantasy you're drinking the koolaid too much. Fantasy is going to beat Bisu and it isn't going to be close.


Best T TvP wise for sure. Flash still comes close to that but plays too safe unlike fantasy. But Flash claims the best TvT, and I would say in a series Leta is almost unstoppable with all his builds in his arsenal and his insane execution. 1 mu does not make you the best Terran there is. If anything Flash is the most well rounded Terran between the 3.


Well you have to admit that Fantasy's TvZ > Flash's TvZ nowadays. TvZ was never Flash's strong matchup anyway. But I think Fantasy's TvP = Flash's TvP. And Flash's TvT > Fantasy's TvT.
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
July 06 2009 16:47 GMT
#55
Conclusion of the Avalon Ro32:

SAvior has lost his balls!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 06 2009 17:26 GMT
#56
I really don't get how jaedong won vs movie with his unit comp at mid game TT
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
July 06 2009 17:31 GMT
#57
EffOrt takes his first title t.t
Entusman #51
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
July 06 2009 17:59 GMT
#58
On July 07 2009 01:37 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 18:14 samachking wrote:
On July 06 2009 12:17 Lamprey wrote:
Nice article.

One peeve:

How does everyone view Fantasy as an underdog even now? He's the best terran without a doubt. If you seriously think Flash or Leta is better than Fantasy you're drinking the koolaid too much. Fantasy is going to beat Bisu and it isn't going to be close.


Best T TvP wise for sure. Flash still comes close to that but plays too safe unlike fantasy. But Flash claims the best TvT, and I would say in a series Leta is almost unstoppable with all his builds in his arsenal and his insane execution. 1 mu does not make you the best Terran there is. If anything Flash is the most well rounded Terran between the 3.


Well you have to admit that Fantasy's TvZ > Flash's TvZ nowadays. TvZ was never Flash's strong matchup anyway. But I think Fantasy's TvP = Flash's TvP. And Flash's TvT > Fantasy's TvT.


TvT: Flash > Fantasy
TvZ: Fantasy > Flash (TvZ is always the bane of Flash in individual leagues, whereas Fantasy thrives on it.)
TvP: Fantasy > Flash (Top protosses can and do take advantage of Flash's predictability. He needs to reinvent his TvP asap.)

At this moment in time I think Fantasy is more dangerous than Flash. He's quite capable of playing against Bisu on even footing. This deserves to be a semifinals match, it's too bad it will only be Ro16.

May the BeSt man win.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
July 06 2009 18:14 GMT
#59
Calm vs Forgg...guardians will be used? Lol if by guardians you mean 2 hatch lurkers or 2/3 hatch speedling then ya. I personally forgg will show calm who the pretender is in this series, though based on current level of play Calm should be favored, but its TvZ if it gets to late game forgg is definitely the favorite. I think at the end of the series we see forgg walking away with the V and his theme song, most likely to be eliminated in the next round.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
July 06 2009 19:08 GMT
#60
thanks for the writeup, enjoyed it a lot... fantasy will roll over bisu but im also afraid that somehow Jaedong is gonna lose to Kal, let's hope not!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LAN Event
18:00
Merivale 8: Swiss Groups Day 1
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 528
mouzHeroMarine 187
White-Ra 165
BRAT_OK 55
SteadfastSC 9
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 738
firebathero 249
Dota 2
qojqva3755
Dendi1238
League of Legends
Trikslyr56
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps937
Other Games
FrodaN1494
Beastyqt1058
ceh9412
Lowko270
Fuzer 218
ArmadaUGS134
QueenE60
C9.Mang041
mouzStarbuck11
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL308
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 15
• Reevou 1
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV556
• Ler70
• Noizen70
League of Legends
• TFBlade736
Other Games
• imaqtpie612
• Shiphtur210
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
6h 45m
Replay Cast
14h 45m
WardiTV Korean Royale
17h 45m
LAN Event
20h 45m
OSC
1d 4h
The PondCast
1d 15h
LAN Event
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
IPSL
3 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
LAN Event
4 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
LHT Stage 1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.