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[GOM] We Don't Need No Stinkin' KeSPA!
April 3rd, 2009 21:48 GMT
Last week I wrote: "Boasting KeSPA's support and a large prize pool, it's difficult to comprehend why some teams [...] are refusing to participate," but it's come to my attention that the GOM Classic does not currently have-- and may never have had-- KeSPA sanctioning. I apologize for this error in reporting. This thread has Teamliquid's stance on GOM with regards to TLPD ELO.
With that humbling retraction out of the way, let's take a look at the results of last weekend as well as this weekend's upcoming games.
Things are apt to start warming up this week as we move into round two. With the weakest participants now eliminated, this round is about deciding who gets to play the seeds. For the no-names, it's incredibly important that they get that chance, as a good performance against a seed could push them into the limelight. For the well known non-seeds, like sKyHigh, it may just be another step toward a chance at an individual league finals, but it's an essential step that could trip them up if they're not paying attention. Expect a few upsets this round.
See you in the Live Report Threads!
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HONG JIN HO FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wtf skyhigh isn't seeded?
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watching these games are a waste of time because jaedong will win anyway XP
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Seeding is done based off of a players KeSPA rank, not how they placed in last season
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I maybe wrong, but wasn't the GOM Classic sanctioned Last Season??
I'm sure Nick and Susi said this in one of their very first brodcasts
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I would say yes. It was even on fomos front page during S2. S1 was not even on it!!!
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On April 04 2009 23:46 Bomi wrote:
I maybe wrong, but wasn't the GOM Classic sanctioned Last Season??
I'm sure Nick and Susi said this in one of their very first brodcasts
That's because she got it from TL.
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United States11393 Posts
+ Show Spoiler +I don't know if I'll be able to stand watching Yellow losing.. ;_;
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no kespa? S2 had kespa... it was mentioned during the cast... but why does kespa abandone GOM (or the other way round)? Someone got inside information?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
GOM never was sanctioned by KeSPA, it was simply "recognized". Susie was fed misinformation.
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Has there been an official statement as to why KeSPA "recognizes" GOM as a tournament, but wont sanction it?
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On April 05 2009 00:08 DownMaxX wrote:
Has there been an official statement as to why KeSPA "recognizes" GOM as a tournament, but wont sanction it?
ultimate fatality...
sif change elo info after bisu won it....
o/ i stand by thee bisu
<3 bisu fanboi # 711
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*EDITED*
I was surprised since I thought all of the major leagues are sanctioned or whatever it's called. But after reading about some teams not participating the picture got clearer and cloudier at the same time.
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good call on the kespa ranks.. gom is definitely worth counting...
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On April 05 2009 00:05 Plexa wrote:
GOM never was sanctioned by KeSPA, it was simply "recognized". Susie was fed misinformation.
Ah I was about to ask how Season 2 was sanction but not Season 3. Thanks for the information.
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Wow all of these matches look very interesting.
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I'm definitely looking forward to seeing SoulKey in action. The woongjin coach thinks very highly of him.
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On April 05 2009 01:24 miseiler wrote:
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing SoulKey in action. The woongjin coach thinks very highly of him.
When I read this I was like "HOLY SHIT SOULKEY SK TERRAN"
And then I checked, and he plays Zerg. ._.
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What looks very interesting so far in this season is that we have both  Hydra and Crazy-Hydra fighting. Im already a fan of Crazy-Hydra, that's an awesome name.
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On April 04 2009 23:34 StarN wrote:
HONG JIN HO FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh, wtf, ToSky is playing today AND on the 7th.
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United States12607 Posts
Thanks for the update Tadzio! I will check out the recommended games now.
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ToSky!!!!
eat that newb alive
also, I hope Spear wins
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On April 05 2009 01:24 miseiler wrote:
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing SoulKey in action. The woongjin coach thinks very highly of him.
Me too.
It's awesome that he has a chance to play twice tonight. And since he's playing against STATS first, it's going to be epic.
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On April 04 2009 23:40 dangots0ul wrote:
watching these games are a waste of time because jaedong will win anyway XP
yesss yessss!
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is it just me or does it seem like Susi is inexplicably missing in this season?
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Baa?21244 Posts
YellOw will win. Hong Jin Ho for champion. FIGHTING.
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I hope Crazy-Hydra will get to play a televised GOM match. His name is soooo amazing, I truly wish he does well!
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On April 05 2009 01:32 OmgIRok wrote:
When I read this I was like "HOLY SHIT SOULKEY SK TERRAN"
And then I checked, and he plays Zerg. ._.
Me too. 
Crushing disappointment.
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On April 05 2009 09:08 H wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2009 01:32 OmgIRok wrote:
When I read this I was like "HOLY SHIT SOULKEY SK TERRAN"
And then I checked, and he plays Zerg. ._. Me too. Crushing disappointment.
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I think I will only start watching in the quarterfinals. Too many games here lol.
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
I want to see SoulKey play, he's been mentioned by the coaches to have a lot of potential ^^;
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
Ok can someone please clarify the difference between Kespa "recognized" and Kespa"sanctioned"?
Does winning Gom season 2 count as winning a starleague or just a special event?
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Poor GOM, this is their 3rd season already and still KeSPA (more like OGN + MBC + IEG) haven't allowed them to enter their playground. Talk about anti-competitive.
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kim jung woo will rip all appart in 2009
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On April 05 2009 10:59 TheTyranid wrote:
Ok can someone please clarify the difference between Kespa "recognized" and Kespa"sanctioned"?
Does winning Gom season 2 count as winning a starleague or just a special event?
That's what I would like to know.
Even without the prestige, at least GOM has a lot of money to throw around. I don't get why teams are explicitly boycotting this tournament.
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Hey,
Is anyone else seeing "next match not reserved."
Are they playing tonight?
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Yeah, as far as I know, the match should have started 6 minutes ago. Check the page right before 10 PST, and it said "X minutes to go!", then as soon as it hit 10, I see the "Next match not reserved". My guess is they're just sorting everything out. Hopefully it will be up in a few.
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Yeah I have no idea, the "http://www.gomtv.net/classics3/" is also down too.
Is there a live thread up? I looked but didn't find one.
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United States889 Posts
Damn, I really hope they know there's a problem.
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On April 05 2009 14:08 Arrian wrote:
Damn, I really hope they know there's a problem.
Haha it'd be funnier if they had no idea, and then broadcast replays again;.
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what the, the first games you have there have already been played
stats beat soulkey etc
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I'm just wondering if I should pop my Nos energy drink or go to bed.
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United States889 Posts
http://www.gomtv.net/classic3/live/
Go there. Click the live button. It's up.
Edit: It's not great, but it's functional.
Edit 2: Okay wait something weird is definitely happening.
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Live is showing up greyed out on that page as well :/
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On April 05 2009 14:12 Arrian wrote:http://www.gomtv.net/classic3/live/Go there. Click the live button. It's up. Edit: It's not great, but it's functional. Edit 2: Okay wait something weird is definitely happening.
Yeah, it plays about a 20 second clip, then cuts out.
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United States889 Posts
Nevermind, there are some people on the GOM forums saying that that's supposed to work, but it isn't working.
EDIT: They had a link up, and then they took it down. Looks like they might be working on it. Might be.
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It's up now but it keeps stopping after 10-15 seconds
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United States889 Posts
On April 05 2009 14:22 Yaqoob wrote:It's up now but it keeps stopping after 10-15 seconds
That's what it was doing before they took the link down the first time. Ooohhh boy...
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Live is up now, tastless and dan casting replays.
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I still have "Please tune in and enjoy" note but i get "Can not find media error for the specified adress (404)" <,< any1 else getting this ?
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Casting replays? Why would they do that? no wonder they aren't sanctioned if that's the best they've got.
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GOM was great S 1 and 2, now its problems every week. hope they can fix it all soon.
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On April 06 2009 01:56 Loophole wrote:
Casting replays? Why would they do that? no wonder they aren't sanctioned if that's the best they've got.
They're doing both, it's best to critique something after you've watched it.
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I guess VODs are delayed this week as well? Don't see yesterday's games up.
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Are anytime, reach, oversky, casy, xellos, gorush and other members of ace all seeded already?
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so i started watching the idra vs trap game and i can't help but notice how fucking annoying Super Daniel is. plus, you have trouble hearing him clearly...
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On April 06 2009 08:16 SlayerS_`HackeR` wrote:
so i started watching the idra vs trap game and i can't help but notice how fucking annoying Super Daniel is. plus, you have trouble hearing him clearly...
You have a hard time hearing heam clearly ? ? I think his English is good. Sure, he's hyper, but umm.. typically he knows what he's talking about.
Where are the VODs?
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Generally, I don't feel like he adds much to the commentary. I think I actually preferred lilsusie.
I do like his little progamer anecdotes though.
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I was so scared i wasnt going to see Yellow
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On April 06 2009 12:07 littlechava wrote:
Generally, I don't feel like he adds much to the commentary. I think I actually preferred lilsusie.
I do like his little progamer anecdotes though.
I'm not sure how I follow your logic on exactly why you prefer Lilsusie over Superdanielman especially if we're talking about "adds much to the commentary." He might not have super perfect fluency, but it's really easy to understand him and his knowledge of the game is far better than probably most here in TL. Plus I love how they talk about random stuff and generally click better than Tasteless/Lilsusie. I just hope SKT1 will join Gom if there is a next season...
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On April 06 2009 16:53 berkguyyy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2009 12:07 littlechava wrote:
Generally, I don't feel like he adds much to the commentary. I think I actually preferred lilsusie.
I do like his little progamer anecdotes though. I'm not sure how I follow your logic on exactly why you prefer Lilsusie over Superdanielman especially if we're talking about "adds much to the commentary." He might not have super perfect fluency, but it's really easy to understand him and his knowledge of the game is far better than probably most here in TL. Plus I love how they talk about random stuff and generally click better than Tasteless/Lilsusie. I just hope SKT1 will join Gom if there is a next season...
Superdaniel & Tasteless both talks about the same stuff that is going on in the game. Superdaniel's in-game knowledge isn't as good as Tasteless since Tasteless has far better in-game experience. Tasteless plays iccup at least. Whereas Lilsusie talks about a lot of the stuff outside of the game such as rumors and gossips revolving around the programer. In the beginning, I prefer Superdanielman, but now he is a bit repetitive. I wouldn't mind seeing Lilsusie back as well.
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On April 06 2009 21:02 [X]Ken_D wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2009 16:53 berkguyyy wrote:On April 06 2009 12:07 littlechava wrote:
Generally, I don't feel like he adds much to the commentary. I think I actually preferred lilsusie.
I do like his little progamer anecdotes though. I'm not sure how I follow your logic on exactly why you prefer Lilsusie over Superdanielman especially if we're talking about "adds much to the commentary." He might not have super perfect fluency, but it's really easy to understand him and his knowledge of the game is far better than probably most here in TL. Plus I love how they talk about random stuff and generally click better than Tasteless/Lilsusie. I just hope SKT1 will join Gom if there is a next season... Superdaniel & Tasteless both talks about the same stuff that is going on in the game. Superdaniel's in-game knowledge isn't as good as Tasteless since Tasteless has far better in-game experience. Tasteless plays iccup at least. Whereas Lilsusie talks about a lot of the stuff outside of the game such as rumors and gossips revolving around the programer. In the beginning, I prefer Superdanielman, but now he is a bit repetitive. I wouldn't mind seeing Lilsusie back as well.
I disagree with your statement that Superdaniel's in-game knowledge isn't as good as Tasteless'. Yea, Tasteless plays iccup sometimes but Superdaniel was the coach of Estro for many years. And trust me, when you're a coach of a progame team in Korea for many years chances are your knowledge is deeper than some dude that plays on iccup and probably even the Korean progamers. Seriously, give Superdaniel respect man and listen to the stuffs he says, it's really some of the best commentary you'll ever hear.
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Because of Tasteless and Superdaniel's experience, they can talk intelligently about the history of the game and how strategies have evolved. I find that stuff very interesting. Susie was a great source of color; she could provide the inside scoop from the progamer clubhouse and some fun anecdotes about the players, their IDs, etc. GOM ought to let her cover that stuff and post it on the site. That's the kind of extra content that (I hope) Tasteless and SDM hinted at recently. Adding a level of in-depth reporting like that would really help round out GOMs coverage and make SC a better "sport."
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Ohmygodgodgodohmyyyyy SoulKey
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On April 05 2009 10:59 TheTyranid wrote:
Ok can someone please clarify the difference between Kespa "recognized" and Kespa"sanctioned"?
Does winning Gom season 2 count as winning a starleague or just a special event?
From what I gather, recognized means they acknowledge the fact that it exists.
Sanctioned means that wins/losses by players affect a player's monthly KeSPA ranking.
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In my opinion osl and msl are enough for progamers.GCL seems unsuitable and untraditional.
If it want to be comparable, the tounament should have been the same with osl and msl,and not the 128-64-32-16-8-4-2-1.It is too bore and not have the sense of layer. Fans who visited the hall are not more and the hall seems like the one of five years ago.And the main speaker--ding yeehun,I see him from osl to weg to Chinese channels and tounaments than back to Kroea,from
sc to w3 and then also back to sc, no one he sponsored or speaked remains longer! Though he is something, he is respectable,what he actually want to do? Osl and msl's main speakers vs gcl's ding seems like osl and msl vs gcl. There are two speakers in gcl who speak in English,everyone said they are good ,but I cannot understand what they said, their voice is too fast, I am a beginner of English
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Why not get a 3-commentator-combo like the Korean commentating team?
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never seen soulkey play, gotta see it
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