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[OSL] Disgusting
January 16th, 2009 11:12 GMT
This is a first, an OSL report just moments after the games have been played. But that's for a very good reason this week. And that is, that the games this week were awful. Not below average, they were abysmal in every sense of the word. There is one bright sign from this weeks groups though, and we'll cover that in due course. My only hope is that this round of the OSL is eliminating all the trash so that the real OSL will be filled with action packed awesome games. But with players like Bisu missing, that doesn't look too likely as a reality. Anyway, onto the terrible games...
Group I
910 was never expected to do anything in this group. And that's exactly what he delivered. In fact, I'm reasonably sure that he felt the same way about his presence in the OSL for reasons which will be made apparent. So in Game 1 910 actually comes equipped with a good game plan - fake mech into 3 rax. However, Yarnc doesn't fall for it one bit, and after fast lair with both hydra and muta tech, builds 3 hydras and moves out and pressures 910 while building mutas. 910 sees the Hydras move out and moves out with his own mnm force and squelches the three hydralisks. Well, that is until 8~ Mutalisks are glaring over head. It isn't long before Yarnc dissects 910 with sublime Mutalisk control and takes the first game without breaking a sweat.
In game 2, 910 opted to play the standard FE into Mech on Medusa. Yarnc on the other hand plays 12 pool to pressure the wall and make scouting and life difficult for 910. He then techs a very fast lair like before and adds a spire once again. 910 proceeds to continue with his mech play and by the time he has a handful of Goliaths, Yarnc has already mustered up a small mutalisk army and proceeds to wrangle the life out of 910's units. It isn't long before Yarnc is also pressuring 910's wall and busts through into 910s natural sealing the game for him. Yarnc advances easily with a 2-0 win.
Up next was none other than the mighty Rock, as was the game of the night. Game 1 actually started very well for Rock, he opened with his pylon in his main and was able to pull off a decent hatch stall against Yarnc. Yarnc had opened 9 pool, as one would expect, and as a result, once Rock moved out with his first army Yarnc wasn't in the best position to defend. But Rock is Rock, and he managed to lose a dragoon for absolutely nothing and hence lose the sting in his attack. Yarnc followed up with both Lurker and Mutalisk tech.
Rock had already anticipated Yarnc going Mutalisk and had produced a good number of Corsairs to tend to the threat. Once Yarnc sees the Corsairs he quickly scampers away without suffering any major damage. However with his Mutalisk's hiding in fear, Rock was free to kill a huge number of Overlords with his Corsairs and looked poised to take the game. With his lead, the only thing hampering him was the lack of an expo - which was being stalled by a few lurkers. Rock cleared them out with his brand new reavers and took his expo, finally.
Yarnc was not about to give up on this game. He powered everything he had into replacing his lost overlords and a brand new Hydra/Lurker army. While Rock was still waiting for the economic boost from his economy, Yarnc had prepared one last mass drop to save the game. And the mass drop completely devastated Rock and killed off all his detection and templar tech. With Rock now holding on by the skin of his teeth, Yarnc was free to power hard and stall Rock some more with minor Lurker drops here and there. After awhile, Yarnc had amassed a very impressive army of Lurker/Hydra and contains Rock.
With copious numbers of Lurkers, Yarnc successfully prevents Rock from getting out or taking his third and vastly out expands Rock. Rock, on the other hand, has many units randomly idling around his base not serving any useful purpose. It isn't long before Yarnc seizes control of Rock's natural and with it, the game. Yarnc takes the game of the week easily from a really disadvantageous position in the early game.
With a really difficult game behind him, Yarnc was in no mood for messing around in game 2. Despite Rock's perfect cannon timing for Yarncs 9 pool, Yarnc was able to do a run-by and get 5 lings into Rock's main. From there the game was easy, Yarnc picked off 8-10 probes with his lings and from that massive economic disadvantage the game was well and truly lost. Yarnc simply teched up a bit while harassing, and then rushed Rock's wall with Lurker/Ling and broke it with ease. Yarnc advances into the OSL with a cool 4-0 score.
Group J
If the last group wasn't depressing enough, this group certainly would make you want to slit your eyes. There was quite a bit of expectation from the community on HiyA to perform and well, he did not step up to that challenge. Both players opened standard on Tears of the Moon and HiyA tried to execute an fd rush. Obviously, as most Protoss will tell you, fd rushes are really easy to stop now. I don't think anyone told HiyA that - and his entire rush force was destroyed by YoonJoong's dragoon force.
Nothing much else happened, YoonJoong continued to produce units off two base, then took his third at the usual timing. Then HiyA decided to push out at about 64 supply with a tank heavy army. While normally this would be scary for a Protoss, Shuttle had enough flank room and a Shuttle full of Zealots to stop the push. With minimal vultures, HiyA stood no chance against YoonJoong and YoonJoong effortlessly pushed through HiyA and basically won the game right there. A few minutes of sloppy control later, and YoonJoong had taken the game and gone 1-0 up.
Game two was equally as bad as the first. YoonJoong opened with a 2-gate pressure build and just about killed one of HiyA supplies in his supply wall, but retreated as siege-mode finished. YoonJoong decided to stay on one base, and kept up the pressure by producing more dragoons, a shuttle, and a few zealots. Next he moved out as if his shuttle has a Reaver, which was scouted by HiyA, and then attacked HiyA's natural. HiyA managed to defend with a cute SCV wall - but lost all but one of his tanks.
After reducing HiyA's tank count, YoonJoong returned home to pick up his Reaver and elevated his new army up onto the high-ground arm of HiyA's base. He then marched his army into HiyA's main and did significant damage - and at that moment that game was beyond repair for HiyA. One or two more attacks was all it took for YoonJoong to topple HiyA and move on to take on Luxury for a spot in the OSL.
Those who expected great games from this series, myself included, were left bitterly disappointed. These games were beyond abysmal. In fact, I know no word in my vocabulary that can appropriately describe my disgust at this series. Game 1 was Luxury emulating by.hero with a 3hatch ling run-by. YoonJoong went out to pressure with three early Zealots, which were raped by lots of Zerglings - and with those Zealots lost and only one cannon at home there was nothing he could do to stop the onslaught of 3hat ling (despite Luxurys poor micro). Game 2 was Luxury going 5 pool into 3 hatch mutalisk. Needless to say, YoonJoong couldn't defend yet again (cannon timing was off) and proceeded to get raped in a boring fashion. Well done Luxury, you cheesed your way into the OSL over YoonJoong of all people.
And that is what happen this week in the OSL... depressing, isn't it?
Next weeks games don't promise to be any better, although I guess getting to watch July and Jaedong destroy should be pretty fun. Oh and maybe Really will perform finally. Anyway, a full preview will be released closer to the date. But for now take solace in the thought that this is the last week of OSL Round 1 and that the really good games should be happening very soon in Round 2. But for now, that is all!
Plexa
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MrHoon
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whenever I read the title for this thread there is a tiny man in my head who keeps saying "pig american disgusting"
Great writeup plexa! And I agree it was a pretty disappointing week even though the twins got through
Somewhere right now the Batoo Sponsors are crying.
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It's a shame about bisu, but I'm glad that the twins made it.
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Sadly I agree with everything stated above. But everyone knows the real OSL doesn't start til the ro16 so let's hope the quality of the games picks up then. Considering the number of impressive names qualified I don't think we'll be disappointed
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Imagine if jaedong and july somehow drop their games... ugh... Disgusting would not be a strong enough word to describe this OSL :p
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Why is it that depressing?
First of all we have two zergs in ro16, which il a good news. I would have been very depressed not to see one of the brothers advancing.
Secondly, the two best players of both groups advanced.
The games were bad because the players were bad. Luxury played very well as none of his game was even close. Yellow muta control vs 910 was sexy. I dunno. Is all right I think.
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I anticipated that YJ Lux match so much only for it to go that way...
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How many times have rock failed to advance beyond group?
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On January 16 2009 23:20 Patriot.dlk wrote: How many times have rock failed to advance beyond group?
How many times have Rock been in the group-stages? That's basically your answer.
Edit: Twins for the win(s)!
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at least the twins advanced. cant complain about zergs in the ro16
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I'm always happy for two more Zergs, and as long as July and Jaedong get through as well, I'm quite happy with this OSL.
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Good news that 2 bros get into OSL, why do you say that it is depressing? You hate zerg or something?
YoonJoong played that poorly, why blame luxury for cheese. YoonJoong saw that many lings and still get out with these zealots, and only 1 cannons against 5 pool. Depressing part is on YoonJoong, he is not in pro level.
Twins are still great.
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United States17042 Posts
if jaedong and july both get cheesed out of this osl, I wont be happy. But at least the games would be better than this week's.
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On January 16 2009 20:12 Plexa wrote:A few minutes of sloppy control later, and YoonJoong had taken the game and goon 1-0 up.
I see what you did there.
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On January 17 2009 02:07 miseiler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 20:12 Plexa wrote:A few minutes of sloppy control later, and YoonJoong had taken the game and goon 1-0 up. I see what you did there.
it was a typo
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The twins had it easy. Hope one of them makes it to the semis.
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On January 17 2009 01:09 sungohan wrote: Good news that 2 bros get into OSL, why do you say that it is depressing? You hate zerg or something?
YoonJoong played that poorly, why blame luxury for cheese. YoonJoong saw that many lings and still get out with these zealots, and only 1 cannons against 5 pool. Depressing part is on YoonJoong, he is not in pro level.
Twins are still great.
Yeah I agree, I think Plexa is a closet Protoss fan-boy, because I find that short games can be quite exciting and as you said we have 2 good zergs making it into the OSL - good news. Long drawn out games are depressing, not this.
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United States12607 Posts
I hate Luxury, so I fully support this battle report ^^
Thanks Plexa.
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United States3824 Posts
Man I wasn't following OSL and I saw that Yellow was playing and I thought real yellow. Oh how I was saddened
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haha, for a second I thought Plexa was just being a meanie. Then I watched the games. Holy shit, lol, I think that might actually be some of the most boring SC I have ever seen. Nonetheless, I'm still excited to see how this OSL shapes out. Lux gogogo
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The Broodling twins were the favorites: I don't see why your expectations were so freaking high.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 16 2009 23:06 Biff The Understudy wrote: Why is it that depressing?
First of all we have two zergs in ro16, which il a good news. I would have been very depressed not to see one of the brothers advancing.
Secondly, the two best players of both groups advanced.
The games were bad because the players were bad. Luxury played very well as none of his game was even close. Yellow muta control vs 910 was sexy. I dunno. Is all right I think. Your half right. Yarnc advanced because he was clearly the superior player and dominated with ease. Luxury on the other hand played so goddam poor it was ridiculous. Take game 1 for example. Any moron can execute a 3hat ling build, but Luxury almost fucked it up. He sent his lings to go around the back (as one would want) but instead they glitched on the power generators stalling the attack for ike 5-6 seconds. On top of that, he was tradings lings for probes at a near 2:1 ratio which is abysmal! Lings should rape probes effortlessly. In the 2nd game his ling control was terrible yet again and won the game by virtue of strategy rather than mechanics. Luxury does not deserve to be in this OSL and is going to go 0-3 in his group no matter who he is playing (put him in testers group and tester will win... that is unless luxury cheeses)
I'm really happy and excited for yarnc - he's going to go far this season. And with July/Jaedong still to come theres enough hope for the Zerg to gain some ground still!
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On January 17 2009 06:35 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 23:06 Biff The Understudy wrote: Why is it that depressing?
First of all we have two zergs in ro16, which il a good news. I would have been very depressed not to see one of the brothers advancing.
Secondly, the two best players of both groups advanced.
The games were bad because the players were bad. Luxury played very well as none of his game was even close. Yellow muta control vs 910 was sexy. I dunno. Is all right I think. Luxury does not deserve to be in this OSL and is going to go 0-3 in his group no matter who he is playing ( put him in testers group and tester will win... that is unless luxury cheeses) Wow, that's really insulting. Lux' ZvP was never stellar, but being an underdog to Tester, that's really something. Guess I'll have to watch the vods to find out. Bad play can also be pretty funny sometimes. :p
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Poor OSL
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On January 17 2009 06:35 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 23:06 Biff The Understudy wrote: Why is it that depressing?
First of all we have two zergs in ro16, which il a good news. I would have been very depressed not to see one of the brothers advancing.
Secondly, the two best players of both groups advanced.
The games were bad because the players were bad. Luxury played very well as none of his game was even close. Yellow muta control vs 910 was sexy. I dunno. Is all right I think. Your half right. Yarnc advanced because he was clearly the superior player and dominated with ease. Luxury on the other hand played so goddam poor it was ridiculous. Take game 1 for example. Any moron can execute a 3hat ling build, but Luxury almost fucked it up. He sent his lings to go around the back (as one would want) but instead they glitched on the power generators stalling the attack for ike 5-6 seconds. On top of that, he was tradings lings for probes at a near 2:1 ratio which is abysmal! Lings should rape probes effortlessly. In the 2nd game his ling control was terrible yet again and won the game by virtue of strategy rather than mechanics. Luxury does not deserve to be in this OSL and is going to go 0-3 in his group no matter who he is playing (put him in testers group and tester will win... that is unless luxury cheeses) I'm really happy and excited for yarnc - he's going to go far this season. And with July/Jaedong still to come theres enough hope for the Zerg to gain some ground still!
If Luxury is that bad, then what is that say about YoonJoong? YoonJoong is not in pro level, I guess.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
He got cheesed Even bisu can't defend off that kind of cheese (hi by.hero)
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Cheesing is a viable strategy. At least a cheese-heavy player is interesting to watch to see how he plays out future games.
If he can win an OSL by pure cheesing, then more power to him. But I think players will catch on long before that happens.
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Errr, typo?: "Shuttle had enough flank room and a Shuttle full of Zealots to stop the push" should be: "YoonJoong had enough flank room and a Shuttle full of Zealots to stop the push"?
EDIT: Also very dissapointed in HiyA -_-
Thanks for the writeup anyway though Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 17 2009 15:12 Grobyc wrote:Errr, typo?: "Shuttle had enough flank room and a Shuttle full of Zealots to stop the push" should be: " YoonJoong had enough flank room and a Shuttle full of Zealots to stop the push"? EDIT: Also very dissapointed in HiyA -_- Thanks for the writeup anyway though Plexa  Shuttle is one of his akas, in fact the one i use the most =/ heh
+ Show Spoiler [Proleauge] +Luxury redeemed himself vs Khan - hopefully he plays more like that in the OSL
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On January 17 2009 15:50 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2009 15:12 Grobyc wrote:Errr, typo?: "Shuttle had enough flank room and a Shuttle full of Zealots to stop the push" should be: " YoonJoong had enough flank room and a Shuttle full of Zealots to stop the push"? EDIT: Also very dissapointed in HiyA -_- Thanks for the writeup anyway though Plexa  Shuttle is one of his akas, in fact the one i use the most =/ heh + Show Spoiler [Proleauge] +Luxury redeemed himself vs Khan - hopefully he plays more like that in the OSL Ahh I see. Nvm then, shows how much I pay attention to the pro scene =/
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On January 17 2009 12:54 Plexa wrote:He got cheesed  Even bisu can't defend off that kind of cheese (hi by.hero)
He discovered 5 pool pretty early, and he build 1 cannon against it, if he built 2, the game is in his hands. Then, after he knew there are at least a dozen zerglings, he still donated his 4 precious zealots. Bad game sense for sure. His early elimination is good for OSL.
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I was always impressed by the number of zealots Shuttle builds PvT, but 1 cannon against a 5pool is just depressing =(
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On January 16 2009 20:12 Plexa wrote: Well done Luxury, you cheesed your way into the OSL over YoonJoong of all people. Well SOMEONE had to play the role of BackHo this OSL.
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Plexa are you really complaining about a zerg cheesing in this day and age? Seriously? And how did by.hero cheese bisu? If you want norush15 go play fastest. by.hero pressured him and capitalized on his FE mistake on tears of the moon and then beat him straight up on medusa.
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On January 17 2009 06:35 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 23:06 Biff The Understudy wrote: Why is it that depressing?
First of all we have two zergs in ro16, which il a good news. I would have been very depressed not to see one of the brothers advancing.
Secondly, the two best players of both groups advanced.
The games were bad because the players were bad. Luxury played very well as none of his game was even close. Yellow muta control vs 910 was sexy. I dunno. Is all right I think. Your half right. Yarnc advanced because he was clearly the superior player and dominated with ease. Luxury on the other hand played so goddam poor it was ridiculous. Take game 1 for example. Any moron can execute a 3hat ling build, but Luxury almost fucked it up. He sent his lings to go around the back (as one would want) but instead they glitched on the power generators stalling the attack for ike 5-6 seconds. On top of that, he was tradings lings for probes at a near 2:1 ratio which is abysmal! Lings should rape probes effortlessly. In the 2nd game his ling control was terrible yet again and won the game by virtue of strategy rather than mechanics. Luxury does not deserve to be in this OSL and is going to go 0-3 in his group no matter who he is playing (put him in testers group and tester will win... that is unless luxury cheeses) I'm really happy and excited for yarnc - he's going to go far this season. And with July/Jaedong still to come theres enough hope for the Zerg to gain some ground still! fuckin shit games completely agred
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 18 2009 02:59 LostDevil wrote: Plexa are you really complaining about a zerg cheesing in this day and age? Seriously? And how did by.hero cheese bisu? If you want norush15 go play fastest. by.hero pressured him and capitalized on his FE mistake on tears of the moon and then beat him straight up on medusa. Theres a difference between how by.hero played and Luxury played. by.hero's control was impeccable and played a super standard straightup game against Bisu and dominated him in impressive fashion. Luxury almost fucked up his attack in game 1 and then played a 5 pool in the second game. One cheese is tolerable, even two if theyre executed brilliantly and have some real thought powered into it, but seriously, Luxury basically cheated the fans of a good game and that contributed to the overall shittyness of the games last week. The moral of the story is that Luxury probably would have won without having to cheese, and probably produced a better game because of it.
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Actually Shuttle cheated the fans of a good game by scouting a 5pool and building one cannon.
And now that I've watched them, his games vs Hiya were fascinating, he was incredibly aggressive game 2 and a pleasure to watch - Hiya did some neat things to fight him off, too. How can people complain about this?
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You do realize that the banner that is used on the front page is the offline prelim banner right?
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On January 18 2009 07:34 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2009 02:59 LostDevil wrote: Plexa are you really complaining about a zerg cheesing in this day and age? Seriously? And how did by.hero cheese bisu? If you want norush15 go play fastest. by.hero pressured him and capitalized on his FE mistake on tears of the moon and then beat him straight up on medusa. Theres a difference between how by.hero played and Luxury played. by.hero's control was impeccable and played a super standard straightup game against Bisu and dominated him in impressive fashion. Luxury almost fucked up his attack in game 1 and then played a 5 pool in the second game. One cheese is tolerable, even two if theyre executed brilliantly and have some real thought powered into it, but seriously, Luxury basically cheated the fans of a good game and that contributed to the overall shittyness of the games last week. The moral of the story is that Luxury probably would have won without having to cheese, and probably produced a better game because of it.
Wake up, toss fan boys, toss is dead this season. It is zerg's turn. And your thread title is really disgusting.
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I'm still lost as to how scouting not enough cannons and breaking with lings is cheese.
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Prolly zergs will dominate this osl like protoss last season. The maps are so zerg favoured
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Thank you Plexa, i fell like you saved like 2 hours of my life.
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On January 18 2009 23:34 Baddieko wrote: Prolly zergs will dominate this osl like protoss last season. The maps are so zerg favoured
BS, Medusa favors Tosses the most:
TvZ: 13-18 (41.9%) [ Games ] ZvP: 20-20 (50%) [ Games ] PvT: 28-11 (71.8%) [ Games ]
And the other two maps haven't had enough games to prove much either way.
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