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Korean News Flash 2008-11-19 - Page 3

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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
November 19 2008 03:32 GMT
#41
Great newspost.

The Free Agent system seems really well thought out. Maybe because it's really complex I can't think of any immediate weaknesses off the top of my head. But it seems like they put quite a bit of effort into it.
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 19 2008 04:42 GMT
#42
On November 19 2008 11:10 d_so wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2008 10:56 baubo wrote:
On November 19 2008 10:29 d_so wrote:
hi mnm. you're cute.

200 percent reimbursement for free agency? That's basically 2x the NBA's luxury tax but applied irrespective of team's current payroll. that is absolutely ludicrous and a lose-lose situation for everyone:

1.) It reduces the player's bargaining power. the original team knows that any opposing team which wants to sign the free agent has to pay 3x the contract demand of the free agent ( contract to player, 200 percent reimbursement to other team).

2.) It restricts a team's ability to sign free agents, thereby limiting the competition and giving the original team an unequal amount of bargaining power. Teams therefore will only look to sign players who they consider capable of giving benefits equal to 3x the cost of the contract. That's crazy!



Glad to see that I wasn't the only person who was floored by this part. I mean, it makes no sense. Considering all the professional sports leagues out there, there are plenty of models for KESPA to analyze and decide what works... and THIS is what they come up with!?

To further expand on your #2, this scenario will only happen if one team has an absurdly high revenue compared to another team in order for FA to work. Or basically something like the Yankees signing players from the Pirates, because their payroll differential is so huge. I think this results in more competitve balance given the lack of a salary cap, since it prevents a really rich team from just signing everyone. But if they wish this, why bother with FA in the first place?

In the end, I think a soft cap ala NBA's CBA works best. Teams can retain the players they develop, and bad teams can clear cap space for impending FAs to improve quickly. Good for competitve balance and for team loyalty.


honestly, this actually gives the high-revenue teams more since they're the only ones that can afford to pay the compensation fee.


But it's much biased against big money teams than a regular FA system, where all teams battle it out on equal grounds.

Meh
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
November 19 2008 04:58 GMT
#43
Ray and LosingID - amazing work! Keep it up!
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.Ix
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines266 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-19 06:04:42
November 19 2008 06:03 GMT
#44
On November 19 2008 08:57 LosingID8 wrote:
In his mind, Korea was like the Phillipines, a country not as developed as Germany.


LOL

edit:
great post. the free agency thing is pretty crazy (and exciting.)
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
November 19 2008 06:51 GMT
#45
epic newspost.. great job, really.
I think that the free agency is gonna have potential to really revitalize progaming and create interesting/fun storylines.
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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
November 19 2008 08:10 GMT
#46
Ohman, thank you sooooooo much for writing this up. So many questions were answered about the free-agent thing, and it was fantastically written. =) Thank you so so much! I'm really glad that when this finally becomes active I won't be completely in the dark about the process.
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GoAudio
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden400 Posts
November 19 2008 08:11 GMT
#47
Ma Jae Yoon the best FA EVER!!!!!!!<333333333333
EffOrt[fOu] & Hyvaa[S.G] <3 :D
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 19 2008 08:13 GMT
#48
Awesome news. FA could really change some teams, but I think most of their teams want to keep the stars and will pay quiet something for that!
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gNs.I-ALBBA
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2 Posts
November 19 2008 08:17 GMT
#49
hey Michelle Martinez u live in nyc?
RA
Profile Joined October 2008
Latvia791 Posts
November 19 2008 09:19 GMT
#50
Very interesting, keep it going.
keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
November 19 2008 10:56 GMT
#51
thanks alot for the translated articles, a really interesting read
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
November 19 2008 11:19 GMT
#52
Amazing, thx for your hard work
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Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
November 19 2008 12:07 GMT
#53
Thanks a bundle, this makes things crystal clear for me.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-19 12:22:40
November 19 2008 12:17 GMT
#54
Kinda sad about the last part of the interview, but its something not that rational, so nevermind.

mnm's last name sounds really familiar though.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
November 19 2008 13:26 GMT
#55
Cool thanks so much!
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
November 19 2008 13:48 GMT
#56
You know what I realized about the FA list?

NO LECAF PLAYERS.

another year of domination
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PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
November 19 2008 14:42 GMT
#57
it's funny the amount of times it's mentioned "Korea" in the last part of the interview.

Great News, thanks for clearing this up! (and yes, i'm was also surprised by the 200% salary issue)
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
November 19 2008 15:10 GMT
#58
On November 19 2008 12:24 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2008 12:02 RamenStyle wrote:
On November 19 2008 11:50 LosingID8 wrote:
On November 19 2008 11:33 RamenStyle wrote:
I have been waiting for this article.

Still there are some things that confuse me. How can Luxury be eligible for free agency? Shouldn't free agency come into play when the contract expires? Lux just signed with KTF, and I doubt he got a 5 months contract. So if Lux is eligible, it means he can just opt out of his contract once given FA status?

no of course he's not going to leave KTF after 5 months haha

its just saying that he's one of the players that is able to become a free agent based on the requirements kespa as set.

So the FA status kicks in automatically once his contract with KTF expires, right? I'm kinda confused with that part in the article that says these players have to choose whether to gain FA status or not come 2009. Aagghh! So many questions pop in my mind about this. Maybe we should make a FAQ for the FA.


Since we don't know the length of these players' contracts, it would be fruitless to wonder where everything stand. It's possible that many of these players have contracts extended beyond the date of FA. This shouldn't just pertain to Luxury, but other players like Savior and Stork too. Just because KTF bought his contract from OGN doesn't mean his contract is any longer than the other players.


I don't think KTF just bought Lux's OGN contract with the same years/conditions/salary ala NBA. Lux must have got a new top-dollar multi-year contract to join KTF. This is what has been bothering me. I'm guessing that the eligible players mentioned can become FA AFTER their contracts expire, otherwise it wouldn't make much sense. The fact that these players have to choose between become FAs or not... well, shouldn't they have to choose after their contracts expire and not right now?

Meh, anyways, this KeSPA FA system sucks. I hope nothing of it is definitive and they soon make the proper changes.
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-19 18:34:53
November 19 2008 18:31 GMT
#59
I think any system dont matter for rich teams like samsung, skt and lecaf. I can see their star players don't ever want to leave their teams due to good prospect of salary and sponsership in the future. Just look at how many times a samsung or skt player left their team. Its rare. Rather its bisu joining skt.

They should do something to help weaker teams retain their star players since the objective is to maintain the competitive edge.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
November 19 2008 19:37 GMT
#60
LosingID8 <3
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