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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-08 21:32:01
September 08 2008 19:38 GMT
#1
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This group produced some unexpected results. Many old faces have returned though along with many new faces finally breaking out of obscurity. This MSL is shaping up to be one of the most exciting ones in recent times. I hope you all enjoy it.

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Group 1: August 7th, 14:00

Game 1 - (P)LuCifer < (T)Dongrae on Athena
Game 2 - (T)Iris > (Z)maGma on Athena.
Game 3 - (T)Iris > (T)Dongrae on Byzantium ► (T)Iris advances.
Game 4 - (P)LuCifer > (Z)maGma on Byzantium
Game 5 - (T)Dongrae > (P)LuCifer on Blue Storm ► (T)Dongrae advances.

Group 1 had the expected result of Iris advancing with the slightly unexpected result of Dongrae advancing instead of Lucifer. Besides the upset of Dongrae > Lucifer the games were rather average with no surprising games.

Group 2: August 7th, 18:30

Game 1 - (P)Bisu > (Z)hyvaa on Athena
Game 2 - (T)Memory > (T)BaBy on Athena
Game 3 - (P)Bisu < (T)Memory on Byzantium ► (T)Memory advances.
Game 4 - (Z)hyvaa < (T)BaBy on Byzantium
Game 5 - (P)Bisu > (T)BaBy on Blue Storm ► (P)Bisu advances.

Group 2 was a great group. Bisu advanced and we got to see a very exciting game between Bisu and Memory on Byzantium. The rest of the games were rather lackluster with Bisu rolling hyvaa and BaBy. But again, I encourage you all to watch Memory vs Bisu.

Group 3: August 14th, 14:00

Game 1 - (P)JangBi > (Z)ZergBOy on Athena
Game 2 - (Z)Shark > (T)go.go on Athena
Game 3 - (P)JangBi > (Z)Shark on Byzantium ► (P)JangBi advances.
Game 4 - (Z)ZergBOy < (T)go.go on Byzantium
Game 5 - (Z)Shark < (T)go.go on Blue Storm ► (T)go.go advances.

Group 3 again had the expected result of Go.Go and JangBi advancing. JangBi totally decimated Shark and Zergboy while despite advancing Go.Go hit a slight hiccup in his first game vs Shark. JangBi's been showing incredible play lately and this group shows it even more. He's definitely a strong contender for this MSL.

Group 4: August 14th, 18:30

Game 1 - (Z)Luxury < (P)Tempest on Athena
Game 2 - (T)FrOzean > (T)DarkElf on Athena
Game 3 - (T)FrOzean > (P)Tempest on Byzantium ► (T)FrOzean advances.
Game 4 - (Z)Luxury < (T)DarkElf on Byzantium
Game 5 - (P)Tempest > (T)DarkElf on Blue Storm ► (P)Tempest advances.

Group 4 was a huge surprise with Tempest and Frozean advancing past Luxury. While all 5 games were rather standard it was still a very pleasant surprise to see the up and comer tempest advance past the seasoned veterans, DarkElf and Luxury. Despite dropping his game vs Frozean Tempest showed solid play in this group.

Group 5: August 16th, 14:00

Game 1 - (T)Canata > (Z)Nal_keke on Athena
Game 2 - (P)YoonJoong < (T)Leta on Athena
Game 3 - (T)Canata > (T)Leta on Byzantium ► (T)Canata advances.
Game 4 - (Z)Nal_keke < (P)YoonJoong on Byzantium
Game 5 - (T)Leta > (P)YoonJoong on Blue Storm ► (T)Leta advances.

Group 5 was an interesting group. Leta's become a strong force in the progaming scene lately. He showed why he is 9-1 in his last 10 games. To be frank, Leta and Canata tore up this group. Both of these players will be strong contenders for the MSL title this season.

Group 6: August 16th, 18:30

Game 1 - (Z)sAviOr > (P)Spear on Athena
Game 2 - (T)UpMagiC > (Z)Hyuk on Athena
Game 3 - (Z)sAviOr < (T)UpMagiC on Byzantium ► (T)UpMagiC advances.
Game 4 - (P)Spear > (Z)Hyuk on Byzantium
Game 5 - (Z)sAviOr > (P)Spear on Blue Storm ► (Z)sAviOr advances.

Group 6 was rather pathetic. Savior and Up both advanced and Up showed solid play but Savior's play, despite bringing him the victory was rather dismal. There's nothing more to say about this group.

Group 7: August 17th, 14:00

Game 1 - (T)Sea > (Z)Hades on Athena
Game 2 - (P)HerO > (Z)Haran on Athena
Game 3 - (T)Sea > (P)HerO on Byzantium ► (T)Sea advances.
Game 4 - (Z)Hades > (Z)Haran on Byzantium
Game 5 - (P)HerO > (Z)Hades on Blue Storm ► (P)HerO advances.

Group 7 was without a doubt the most exciting group of this MST. Sea ran through Hades and HerO without much effort. Both games weren't that inspiring, Sea just played solidly and came out on top. The real gems of this group were HerO vs Hades and HerO vs Haran. While the game vs Haran wasn't the greatest level of play it was still damn exciting. HerO vs Hades was just a great action packed PvZ on Blue Storm. I encourage everyone to go watch both these games.

Group 8: August 17th, 18:30

Game 1 - (T)NaDa > (Z)Study on Athena
Game 2 - (T)fantasy > (P)SangHo on Athena
Game 3 - (T)NaDa < (T)fantasy on Byzantium ► (T)fantasy advances.
Game 4 - (Z)Study < (P)SangHo on Byzantium
Game 5 - (T)NaDa > (P)SangHo on Blue Storm ► (T)NaDa advances.

Group 8 was enjoyable. The fan favorite, NaDa, advanced and the new Terran, fantasy, advanced while showing incredible play. I encourage everyone to watch NaDa's and Fantasy's games but to steer clear of the Study and SangHo match.

Group 9: August 21st, 14:00

Game 1 - (T)Mind > (Z)Clay[fOu] on Athena
Game 2 - (P)BackHo < (Z)ZerO on Athena
Game 3 - (T)Mind < (Z)ZerO on Byzantium ► (Z)ZerO advances.
Game 4 - (Z)Clay[fOu] < (P)BackHo on Byzantium
Game 5 - (T)Mind < (P)BackHo on Blue Storm ► (P)BackHo advances.

Group 9 was possibly the biggest upset to me. Sure, everyone expected BackHo to advance but Mind getting knocked out by ZerO and BackHo was mind blowing. I didn't have the opportunity to watch these games so I can't comment, but I will say this. Anyone that can take down Mind ZvT is worth a gander.

Group 10: August 21st, 18:30

Game 1 - (T)firebathero > (T)koala_V_ on Athena
Game 2 - (Z)YellOw[ArnC] > (P)Nbs[gm] on Athena
Game 3 - (T)firebathero < (Z)YellOw[ArnC] on Byzantium ► (Z)YellOw[ArnC] advances.
Game 4 - (T)koala_V_ > (P)Nbs[gm] on Byzantium
Game 5 - (T)firebathero > (T)koala_V_ on Blue Storm ► (T)firebathero advances.


Group 10 showed the expected result of YarnC/fbh advancing but that doesn't mean the games were complete rapes or boring. Firebathero vs Koala (both games) are well worth a watch. ETT sets the mood much better than I can so I'll link you to his thread concerning these games. (Click)

Group 11: August 23rd, 14:00

Game 1 - (Z)Kwanro > (P)Bul_T on Athena
Game 2 - (Z)Calm < (T)RuBy on Athena
Game 3 - (Z)Kwanro < (T)RuBy on Byzantium ► (T)RuBy advances.
Game 4 - (P)Bul_T > (Z)Calm on Byzantium
Game 5 - (Z)Kwanro < (P)Bul_T on Blue Storm ► (P)Bul_T advances.

Group 11 had another big upset with Bul_T advancing over Kwanro and Calm. This whole group is well worth a watch. All 5 games were rather nice. Bul_T the relatively unknown SKT1 Protoss has now made himself a huge threat in this MSL with strong play vs Calm and Kwanro. Definately a player to follow

Group 12: August 23rd, 18:30

Game 1 - (T)Light > (T)Sea.Really on Athena
Game 2 - (Z)type-b[s.g] < (P)Stork on Athena
Game 3 - (T)Light < (P)Stork on Byzantium ► (P)Stork advances.
Game 4 - (T)Sea.Really < (Z)type-b[s.g] on Byzantium
Game 5 - (T)Light < (Z)type-b[s.g] on Blue Storm ► (Z)type-b[s.g] advances.

Group 12 was possibly the biggest upset after Luxury not advancing. Stork was expected to advance obviously with 2 Terrans in his group but the real suprise came from Type-B taking down both Really and Light. That along with the fact that he took them down on Byzantium which lately has been a Zerg death map in ZvT is even more incredible.
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3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
September 08 2008 19:43 GMT
#2
Iris, savior, and nada bring back memories from Shinhan 3.
this might not be a great MSL, but it will be a fun one.
operwolf
Profile Joined April 2008
United States324 Posts
September 08 2008 19:46 GMT
#3
Bisu is going to sweep the MSL and OSL this season, I can feel it, YOU JUST WAIT! >
He'll end up dead, because he'll die.
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
September 08 2008 20:07 GMT
#4
firebat hero to win msl. you will see (assuming all protosses get knocked out)
wraiths go pew pew
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
September 08 2008 20:18 GMT
#5
On September 09 2008 04:46 operwolf wrote:
Bisu is going to sweep the MSL and OSL this season, I can feel it, YOU JUST WAIT! >

Freedom is a stranger
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
September 08 2008 20:19 GMT
#6
On September 09 2008 04:46 operwolf wrote:
Bisu is going to sweep the MSL and OSL this season, I can feel it, YOU JUST WAIT! >

This
Liquid | SKT
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
September 08 2008 20:46 GMT
#7
Bul_T fighting
✌
Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
September 08 2008 20:56 GMT
#8
On September 09 2008 04:46 operwolf wrote:
Bisu is going to sweep the MSL and OSL this season, I can feel it, YOU JUST WAIT! >


I've been wishing for that for a long time..., but it won't happen .
#1 Flash Fan
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
September 08 2008 21:00 GMT
#9
I love By.Fantasy.

FANTASY FIGHTING!
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
September 08 2008 21:05 GMT
#10
The obvious, yes that was quite the obvious and just about all that.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
September 08 2008 21:16 GMT
#11
.... luxury.. T-T

hard to see my favourite zerg going down.
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
September 08 2008 21:18 GMT
#12
i hope upmagic will show some of his art...

One must feel chaos within, to give birth to a dancing star.
paavst
Profile Joined December 2007
171 Posts
September 08 2008 21:20 GMT
#13
A little mixup, but otherwise nice read and good suggestions for games to see.

Mixup:
Game 2 - (P)HerO > (Z)Haran on Athena
HerO vs Haran was just a great action packed PvZ on Blue Storm
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
September 08 2008 21:33 GMT
#14
On September 09 2008 06:20 paavst wrote:
A little mixup, but otherwise nice read and good suggestions for games to see.

Mixup:
Game 2 - (P)HerO > (Z)Haran on Athena
HerO vs Haran was just a great action packed PvZ on Blue Storm

Thank you.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
September 08 2008 22:18 GMT
#15
Great Writeup. I want to see the return of Nada. I'm ready for it.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
September 08 2008 22:46 GMT
#16
On September 09 2008 04:46 operwolf wrote:
Bisu is going to sweep the MSL and OSL this season, I can feel it, YOU JUST WAIT! >

I would love for that to happen
stiga
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States377 Posts
September 08 2008 22:58 GMT
#17
Go sea and savior. i want to see savior beat firebathero
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
September 08 2008 23:03 GMT
#18
Go Savior~
this is my quote.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 08 2008 23:07 GMT
#19
good writeup, but dongrae over lucifer isn't an upset
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
September 08 2008 23:12 GMT
#20
Really happy for Up and Savior advancing.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
September 08 2008 23:31 GMT
#21
I will not be truly satified unless Savior outright wins this MSL......which means I might not be truly satified.

But hell I'm excited for the new season!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-08 23:41:01
September 08 2008 23:32 GMT
#22
wasnt iris vs dongrae the epic comeback game?

I should rewatch it
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
September 08 2008 23:44 GMT
#23
On September 09 2008 07:46 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2008 04:46 operwolf wrote:
Bisu is going to sweep the MSL and OSL this season, I can feel it, YOU JUST WAIT! >

I would love for that to happen

So would I.... so would I.

sAviOr qualifying is good, but him playing badly while qualifying isn't. Don't fail us again Maestro!!!
errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
September 08 2008 23:44 GMT
#24
The OP says savior's play was dismal, and I can recall the interview on that day with Savior saying he was satisfied with his play that day.

i personally found those games to be fun to watch and wouldn't say they were dismal.. I won't argue it though with my short time watching Savior.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 08 2008 23:47 GMT
#25
On September 09 2008 08:44 errol1001 wrote:
The OP says savior's play was dismal, and I can recall the interview on that day with Savior saying he was satisfied with his play that day.

i personally found those games to be fun to watch and wouldn't say they were dismal.. I won't argue it though with my short time watching Savior.


they were pretty good

showed some really awesome micro moments, but pretty much every game of savior you watch other than zvz, he ends up getting outmacroed

so unless he works on that, hes going to be fucked
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
September 08 2008 23:58 GMT
#26
z imbalance getting worse than p imbalance on old days =/
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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
September 09 2008 00:20 GMT
#27
On September 09 2008 08:44 errol1001 wrote:
The OP says savior's play was dismal, and I can recall the interview on that day with Savior saying he was satisfied with his play that day.

i personally found those games to be fun to watch and wouldn't say they were dismal.. I won't argue it though with my short time watching Savior.

Compare his recent play to his old play. It was dismal by Savior standards and compared to some of the other zergs in the MST he was not impressive. It was better than most of his recent but realistically it wasn't up to scratch.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
September 09 2008 01:27 GMT
#28
Still disappointed in Light's loss on byzantium. But Up. : )
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
yoofor
Profile Joined December 2007
United States143 Posts
September 09 2008 03:21 GMT
#29
sAviOr's play is quite good, of course not at jaedong's level, but still far exceeded my expectation. I wouldn't say that's dismal.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
September 09 2008 04:46 GMT
#30
On September 09 2008 09:20 DeadVessel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2008 08:44 errol1001 wrote:
The OP says savior's play was dismal, and I can recall the interview on that day with Savior saying he was satisfied with his play that day.

i personally found those games to be fun to watch and wouldn't say they were dismal.. I won't argue it though with my short time watching Savior.

Compare his recent play to his old play. It was dismal by Savior standards and compared to some of the other zergs in the MST he was not impressive. It was better than most of his recent but realistically it wasn't up to scratch.

Considering that many people were doubting whether he'd make it out of the group, I'd say he performed better than expected. He made some really nice decisions game 1 and played a solid game 5. Even game 3 wasn't too bad - definitely not starleague champ-worthy, but better than expected. The only thing that bothers me is that he can't seem to handle late-game play and tends to try builds that cut the game shorter, as if he has a problem with macro.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10691 Posts
September 09 2008 07:59 GMT
#31
WTF!

13 Terrans
7 Protoss
4 Zergs
if i counted correct...


How gay is that pls? An endless onlsaught of (most of the times, Tornadostyle TvT rocks :p) boring TvT's is approaching fast...
ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
September 09 2008 16:19 GMT
#32
Wooooo savior!!! WOOOOT NADA!!

hmm i think i might keep a close eye on Bul_T this season o.o;
Ah, computer dating. It's like pimping, but you rarely have to use the phrase "upside your head." - Bender
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
September 09 2008 16:51 GMT
#33
go bisu
HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 17:43:38
September 09 2008 17:43 GMT
#34
On September 09 2008 08:03 Ozarugold wrote:
Go Savior~


What he said
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Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
September 09 2008 18:51 GMT
#35
STOP!!!!!!!!!
WHERE IS Flash????????????????????
Power is your Intelligence
mO.Palantir
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany18 Posts
September 09 2008 21:05 GMT
#36
Only stinking Terras:-(
Gogogo Savior!
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
September 09 2008 22:01 GMT
#37
On September 10 2008 03:51 Fx_ wrote:
STOP!!!!!!!!!
WHERE IS Flash????????????????????


He needn't go through all this nonsense, as he did well last MSL, earning him a bye throughout these lame qualification tournaments and crap.
God Bless
martin549
Profile Joined September 2008
China4 Posts
September 10 2008 02:24 GMT
#38
Glad to see that Savior is still the hot topic here. No doubt he is down from his prime, he can not be underestimated. Right now I'm gonna just sit tight and enjoy every his games, no matter win or lose, it is simply fun to watch.
English is not my first language, but Starcraft is.
tyr0
Profile Joined September 2008
United States125 Posts
September 10 2008 02:35 GMT
#39
On September 09 2008 04:46 operwolf wrote:
Bisu is going to sweep the MSL and OSL this season, I can feel it, YOU JUST WAIT! >


many men share my opinion of this starleague season.
dmetheny
Profile Joined July 2008
United States146 Posts
September 10 2008 04:02 GMT
#40
On September 09 2008 04:46 operwolf wrote:
Bisu is going to sweep the MSL and OSL this season, I can feel it, YOU JUST WAIT! >


this^^^
mister.bubbles
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada171 Posts
September 10 2008 05:33 GMT
#41
I think sAviOr's play was relatively encouraging. He made some mistakes but it wasn't nearly as bad as his play before entering the B-Team. But I'm just a nooby Ma JaeYoon fanboy so maybe it's just me.

By the way: Hi everyone! I've been lurking on this site forever now and I finally got a account. This site wastes so much of my time...
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martin549
Profile Joined September 2008
China4 Posts
September 11 2008 01:58 GMT
#42
but you have had fun, havn't you?
English is not my first language, but Starcraft is.
mister.bubbles
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada171 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-15 05:27:03
September 11 2008 02:18 GMT
#43
^^^Best wasted time of my life!!!
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