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Kennigit Edit: If you ask a question that has been answered in this OP, in the following comments, or is just plain retarded - 2 week ban (that means your CANT enter the lottery). Read this effing thread!
For the next week, registration for the shirt lottery will be open. If your username is selected from the lottery, you will have the opportunity to purchase a shirt.
Lottery Requirements
It will cost roughly $30 plus shipping. If you cannot purchase a shirt, please do not register for the lottery. In order to be eligible for the lottery, you must have registered your TeamLiquid.net account before July 1st 2008. Banned users cannot enter the lottery.
Lottery Details
We received 100 shirts from CJ Entus. Eighteen have been reserved for staff members, distributed at our discretion. TeamLiquid does not pay its staff members for the countless hours of volunteer work they do. We see this as an opportunity to reward our contributors for their hard work. After all, without our site staff, we would never have gotten the chance to have these shirts. One shirt was won by DrHelvetica in the TL Attack! JianFei reaver kill count contest. One special, autographed shirt will be reserved for a charity auction (details later).
That leaves 80 shirts for the lottery. Everyone who enters will have an equal chance at winning. You will select your location, then your three top color/size choices. The number available in each color and size per location is listed. You may have to make a strategic decision on sizes or colors, as quantities are extremely limited, especially for large shirts.
We will do the drawing at the end of the week and announce the winners once the drawing is complete and also by PM.
Good luck!
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YAY LOTTERY! I hope I win.....
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What's the largest size you have? 
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yay i was entry #6, and good luck to all who enter
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On September 01 2008 16:18 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:What's the largest size you have?
Largest size is a 105 which is "large".
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Washington, D.C9933 Posts
#17!!!
good luck to everybody (but especially me please!)
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omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg
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I wonder how many people will participate  Judging by the comments I saw it'll be in the hundreds.
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Germany2762 Posts
a question to those who already have one of the shirts in their hands:
how large are those shirts finally? are they rather small or large overall? would be nice to know when picking the size
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I'm #28. I hope I'll win!
Any idea how much shipping costs to Finland(northern europe)?
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Braavos36373 Posts
On September 01 2008 16:34 jhNz wrote:a question to those who already have one of the shirts in their hands: how large are those shirts finally? are they rather small or large overall? would be nice to know when picking the size
I'm 5'7" and got a M and it fits fine. I bet I could fit into a S but it'd be tighter.
Pity there are so few larges.
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Kennigit
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Hotbid got a medium. I think he's 5'7 and fairly thin and it fits him well. Im 6'2'' 185 lbs and im going to get a large. Im fairly sure korean sizes are smaller than north american even if they are both "large"
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Germany2762 Posts
On September 01 2008 16:35 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2008 16:34 jhNz wrote:a question to those who already have one of the shirts in their hands: how large are those shirts finally? are they rather small or large overall? would be nice to know when picking the size I'm 5'7" and got a M and it fits fine. I bet I could fit into a S but it'd be tighter. Pity there are so few larges.
alright, thanks guys
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Are the "small", "medium", and "large" standard? I know different brands have different versions of these sizes... Is there some measurement that would be more standard? Thanks.
Edit: Sort of like what Kennigit posted on page 1.
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hey, admin, i got a Q. can you like check IPs, cuz what if users start making a hell lot of accounts...?
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Savior wears a 100 - Medium. See the size of his arm and how it forms around his arm? That should give you a rough estimate.
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On September 01 2008 16:44 [Fin]Vittu wrote:
hey, admin, i got a Q. can you like check IPs, cuz what if users start making a hell lot of accounts...?
There is a registration date requirement on the lottery.
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First of all, did someone measure the exact sizes of the chests? That would be a big help to know if 100 is exactly 100 or if it's 105 or something.
Secondly, if we are selected, but then our size/color isn't available, do we not get a shirt, or do we get a PM asking if we still want one of a different size/color? I think medium is my size, but I'm sure I'd fit in a small; it just might be a little more form-fitting. E.G. if I selected M/W, M/B, and S/W, as my three, but there were only small blacks left when I'm picked, would I not get one?
Thirdly, are you putting restrictions on sale or trade of shirts? Or are we going to have people who don't want one signing up, then making 50 bucks profit on ebay when they're selected?
The answers to my 1st and 2nd question will affect what I choose when I enter.
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GL all who enter. Entry #44!
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Kennigit
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On September 01 2008 16:50 LonelyMargarita wrote:
First of all, did someone measure the exact sizes of the chests? That would be a big help to know if 100 is exactly 100 or if it's 105 or something.
100 is 100 is medium
Secondly, if we are selected, but then our size/color isn't available, do we not get a shirt, or do we get a PM asking if we still want one of a different size/color? I think medium is my size, but I'm sure I'd fit in a small; it just might be a little more form-fitting. E.G. if I selected M/W, M/B, and S/W, as my three, but there were only small blacks left when I'm picked, would I not get one?
[b]Register...you will see that you have 3 choices for shirt (eg can request a 100 and 105 black and 100 white)
Thirdly, are you putting restrictions on sale or trade of shirts? Or are we going to have people who don't want one signing up, then making 50 bucks profit on ebay when they're selected?
we cant realistically prevent people from reselling. if we think they have abused the system to make a buck off our back we would just ban them from the plethora of future sales we will have
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Lucky number... thirty? here.
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Braavos36373 Posts
On September 01 2008 16:50 LonelyMargarita wrote:
First of all, did someone measure the exact sizes of the chests? That would be a big help to know if 100 is exactly 100 or if it's 105 or something.
Secondly, if we are selected, but then our size/color isn't available, do we not get a shirt, or do we get a PM asking if we still want one of a different size/color? I think medium is my size, but I'm sure I'd fit in a small; it just might be a little more form-fitting. E.G. if I selected M/W, M/B, and S/W, as my three, but there were only small blacks left when I'm picked, would I not get one?
Thirdly, are you putting restrictions on sale or trade of shirts? Or are we going to have people who don't want one signing up, then making 50 bucks profit on ebay when they're selected?
I don't know the exact measurements.
Each color+size per location is a mini-lottery. So essentially your name gets put into 3 lotteries of the 6 possible (3 sizes of each color). If you are selected you get a shirt in whichever category you win in. If you are selected in multiple ones you get your top choice. If you don't get selected in any of the lotteries you get no shirts.
As for sale or trade, there's nothing we can really do to completely prevent one of these from showing up on ebay. But I hope that people who are entering are truly CJ fans and will love keeping the shirts. And if one or two are sold? I guess free market forces will prevail, and a true person that wants it will eventually have one. So it's not that bad, either way.
edit: Kennigit also answered this.
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thanks for the offer what payment methods will be accepted?
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Thanks! Your entry has been received. You are entrant #69. Good luck!
If I get a small, I'll take a couple months off from the gym so it's not so tight anymore. XellOs is worth it.
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Crossing my fingers! Big CJ fan and the shirts look great. Big thanks TL staff for getting this together. I hope there are more opportunities for things like this in the future.
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On September 01 2008 17:14 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Thanks! Your entry has been received. You are entrant #69. Good luck!
lol, nice
to Bosu: on Sea's TL Attack, one of the coaches talked about making MBCGame Hero shirts available... so there's hope in that regard
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<3 Good luck to everyone who submits an entry for the lottery.~
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Wow only 2 black large for Europe This requires a lot of luck
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Austin10831 Posts
Ok, they look pretty cool so I'm in.
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I really hope they decide to make more. I don't see the point in selling so many fewer than demand. It's one thing to make like half of what you expect to sell, but it seems like they're going with less than 5% of what would sell, based on how fast they sold in Korea. You can still make it special without making it so exclusive. I bet most proleague matches won't even have 1 person who got one in the audience.
If anyone has any information on their reasoning why they only chose to make 500, or any rumors on them making more, please share it with us.
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Can't join the lottery ='(
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If the server mysteriously goes down until the drawing, will you just go with the 80 sign ups so far (everybody wins!)?
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I wish I could join the lottery :S
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#80
So basically it took hardly more than 1H1/2 to "sell" all the shirts. Sick.
I hope I win one so I can wear it at WCG and make all the other TeamLiquidians jealous
And if the signed shirt for the auction has Ma Jae Yoon's signature, the charity you picked will get rich!
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#41. Really hope I get one. The black ones look really nice.
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#77 here
fingers crossed :D
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#86 =D Goodluck everyone.
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Thanks! Your entry has been received. You are entrant #100. Good luck!
QUESTION!
do the three choices in the lottery actually matter? in other words, would choosing one option (and leaving the other two as none) be any different than choosing three different options?
like, when you draw one guy with 3 options, would you go through each option and try to fulfill his order first, or would it be like "hey this other guy only wanted this one size and color, i can give him that and give the first guy one of his other options"?
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there should be a penalty like if you get selected in the lottery and you don't buy a shirt you should get banned or something
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also, can someone post the how many of each size are available? i already entered the lottery and i cant go back to view the numbers
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On September 01 2008 18:08 useLess wrote:
Thanks! Your entry has been received. You are entrant #100. Good luck!
QUESTION!
do the three choices in the lottery actually matter? in other words, would choosing one option (and leaving the other two as none) be any different than choosing three different options?
like, when you draw one guy with 3 options, would you go through each option and try to fulfill his order first, or would it be like "hey this other guy only wanted this one size and color, i can give him with that and give the first guy one of his other options"?
They aren't drawing from 1 pool. There are 12 pools, and you may enter 3 of them. For example: There is a Medium/White/USA pool. Everyone who had medium/white/usa as one of their three entries will get their name in that pool. They will draw 9 winners from that pool, plus probably a couple "back-ups" in case someone wins in multiple pools or someone doesn't respond after being announced a winner in that pool.
So yes, there are two factors that will make some pools have better odds than others: 1) the number of shirts in the pool, and 2) the number of people who choose to enter that pool. So while you may think, "not many shirts in the large pools, so I'll enter medium to increase my odds," if a lot of people do that, the increased number of entries in the medium pools may outweigh the smaller number of shirts in the large pools. Similarly, although people may enter small because it has the highest number of shirts, it may also get the highest number of entries simply because that's the only variable we can view. I'd just enter in what size you think fits you, and what color you like best, in order.
If you are drawn in multiple pools, you win whichever one was higher on your list of preferences.
Europe
Style #
Small / Black 7
Small / White 7
Medium / Black 10
Medium / White 3
Large / Black 2
Large / White 4
USA
Style #
Small / Black 11
Small / White 11
Medium / Black 10
Medium / White 9
Large / Black 4
Large / White 3
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i think its just a drawing and priority on what the shirt get.
like #1 has first choice, (if not, 2nd choice then 3rd), if none are available it goes to the next queue, #2 up to ~#100 maybe.
(just what I thought that made sense, other than drawing from 12 different shirt pools)
thanks for correction.
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funny how Europe have less "large" shirts then USA 
#145 here
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On September 01 2008 18:57 anch wrote:
i think its just a drawing and priority on what the shirt get.
like #1 has first choice, (if not, 2nd choice then 3rd), if none are available it goes to the next queue, #2 up to ~#100 maybe.
(just what I thought that made sense, other than drawing from 12 different shirt pools)
No, it's drawing from 12 different pools.
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Entrant number 160 FTWW!!
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Damn, can't enter the lottery cuz I'm a pretty new member of this site.. Gl to everyone else ^^
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Lucky number 173. Come on 173...
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mm is there a way to cancel the participation to the lottery?
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I accidentally went for two black mediums instead of one white and one medium, is it possibly to make any changes? ^^;;;;
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Thanks! Your entry has been received. You are entrant #176. Good luck!
gogogo 176
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Question: How does the drawing work for people who put "Other" for Location?
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#195 is mine > gogogo!
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should of registered here a week before, sigh.
see you.
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If I enter the lottery and win, can Rage bring it to WCG so I don't have to pay for shipping? :D:D
I'm poor!!
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I knew there was a reason to sign up and become active sooner instead of lurking all these months. Oh well, I'll be ready for the next one. 
Good luck everyone!
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On September 01 2008 21:30 _Grazze_ wrote:
If I enter the lottery and win, can Rage bring it to WCG so I don't have to pay for shipping? :D:D
I'm poor!!
too poor for $5 shipping but you can afford to go to WCG? I guess we all have our priorities.
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#217
I have a feeling we'll be having a second shipment of the shirts VERYYY soon.
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On September 01 2008 21:41 Merkur_sr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2008 21:30 _Grazze_ wrote:
If I enter the lottery and win, can Rage bring it to WCG so I don't have to pay for shipping? :D:D
I'm poor!! too poor for $5 shipping but you can afford to go to WCG? I guess we all have our priorities.
I don't think it'll cost $5 to Finland since the TL-shirt shipping was big for me. But if anyone can tell me the shipping to Finland I can consider it better.
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I live in Canada but I picked Other for country since it's technically not USA. Was this correct?
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Belgium9945 Posts
I'm still working out the cheapest shipment option, but it'll probably be around 5 euros for anywhere in europe I think.
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On September 01 2008 21:59 niteReloaded wrote:
#217
I have a feeling we'll be having a second shipment of the shirts VERYYY soon.
The number they made wasn't based on demand. They sold out in Korea in less than an hour, and still they have not stated any intentions of making more, from what I have heard. Teamliquid has no control over them making more, and no control over whether we would be able to get any more even if they do in fact produce a second run of these (besides requesting them).
Hopefully enough people in Korea contact CJ Entus begging them to make more. I'd write them myself, but I don't speak Korean.
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What size should I get? It's bad if the size won't fit if I decide to enter The Lottery  .
I use Medium now for most of my t-shirts and that fits really good!
So, Korean size = Europe? I assume it isn't the same. Gah, so many questions, I don't want to be dissatisfied that's all
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is it legal to use more then 1 account to participate the lottery? *^^*
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
no. we will find you and destroy you!
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New York City13113 Posts
No lottery bonus for those of us with stars? =(
ps if jared got a reserved shirt i'm going to fly to atlanta and beat him up and steal his
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
absolutely not
goes for both of you haha XD
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On September 01 2008 22:58 Plexa wrote:
absolutely not
goes for both of you haha XD
thanks for saving me life!
i hope~ ><
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United States12607 Posts
*crosses fingers*
Is there anything to prevent people from Europe from entering the USA lottery simply because there are more shirts available?
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Good luck to everyone who is entering the lottery !
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Blizzcon Lottery: Fail
CJ Shirt Lottery: Pending
=)
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OH CRAP. Entrant #271 T.T
edit: I just thought of something, people who just heard about this shirt over at gg.net or w/e can register at this site and put their entry in the lottery and could possibly win a shirt without even posting. Has this been thought of because that's really unfair ;_;
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On September 01 2008 23:43 Equinox_kr wrote:
OH CRAP. Entrant #271 T.T
edit: I just thought of something, people who just heard about this shirt over at gg.net or w/e can register at this site and put their entry in the lottery and could possibly win a shirt without even posting. Has this been thought of because that's really unfair ;_;
you must have registered your TeamLiquid.net account before July 1st 2008.
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White Large
Black Large
Black Medium
Gogo luck
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Try so hard to explain things in ops but in the end people wont read ;_;
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On September 01 2008 23:47 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2008 23:43 Equinox_kr wrote:
OH CRAP. Entrant #271 T.T
edit: I just thought of something, people who just heard about this shirt over at gg.net or w/e can register at this site and put their entry in the lottery and could possibly win a shirt without even posting. Has this been thought of because that's really unfair ;_;
Yea leave it to me to forget to read the entire thing ~_~
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On September 01 2008 23:53 Kennigit wrote:
Try so hard to explain things in ops but in the end people wont read ;_;
FORGIVE ME T_T_T_T_T_T
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Wow, a lot of people want these shirts!
I'm number 284.
At least I am committed to buying.
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Holy crap, I thought things were looking good when I got number 115, but I guess america was still asleep then. 0_o
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Order 305.... good luck to me...
I MUST WIN!!!!!!!
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I guess registering exactly on July 1st knocks me out of the contest?
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Hi, can you please elaborate on preferred method of payment?
Would a cashier's check or money order work? I try not to use credit cards online and I'm not familiar with paypal, though I suppose I could figure it out.
Please note that I will find a way to get you the money if I win! (And I do have money to use!)
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Can we pick the same type of shirt (ex. White/Med) 3 times to get three chances to win in that pool?
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this is really great, hope i win one
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damn, my accout is not old enough 
well good luck to the winners!
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jeez the odds is harder than getting into a decent university F
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Good luck to everyone, good luck to me, THANK YOU TEAM LIQUID FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
In case someone cannot follow up on their purchase, will you have a redraw? Or will you use the same pool from here?
^ Wishful thinking in case I don't get picked, sorry T_T
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176cm (5'9 1/2) + 70kg (154 lbs) = medium right?
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Kennigit
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On September 02 2008 01:00 jimmyl930 wrote:
Can we pick the same type of shirt (ex. White/Med) 3 times to get three chances to win in that pool?
No. The idea is that if we run out of the shirt you wanted then we have a backup that we know you want/will fit.
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On September 01 2008 23:53 Kennigit wrote:
Try so hard to explain things in ops but in the end people wont read ;_;
This is a fundamental failing of human beings. I'm a researcher in a laboratory full of PhDs and even these supposedly intelligent people will chase me down at the weekend to ask a question, the answer to which I've provided in available documentation or even on brightly coloured labels affixed directly to the equipment they're using. RTFM - it's not just for sitting on the toilet, eh?
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rofl, been checking everyday non-stop but the day i go mow my lawn in the morning the lottery has already started. very strategic of TL to put it on labor day too. good luck to everyone though!
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Thanks! Your entry has been received. You are entrant #343. Good luck!
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Kennigit
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On September 02 2008 01:38 jgad wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2008 23:53 Kennigit wrote:
Try so hard to explain things in ops but in the end people wont read ;_; This is a fundamental failing of human beings. I'm a researcher laboratory full of PhDs and even these supposedly intelligent people will chase me down at the weekend to ask a question, the answer to which I've provided in available documentation or even on brightly coloured labels affixed directly to the equipment they're using. RTFM - it's not just for sitting on the toilet, eh?
We need more loud noises and flashy lights i think hehe
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It's kinda fun seeing all the lurkers (myself included) coming out of the woodwork. It's also somewhat discouraging that I'm after one of seven large shirts considering it's probably the most sought after.
With odds like that, I think it's time to turn to superstition. Sorry Richard Dawkins, I want a CJ shirt.
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Braavos36373 Posts
1. Pray to an ivory Much idol
2. Carve a FBH statue out of wood and then burn it
3. Wear only red / orange / blue colors
edit: doing this will 100% get you a shirt
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Thank you for the opportunity guys. I m willing to suck dick and balls for this FYI
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i will buy 100$ Cj shirt plz
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Does Canada count as Other?
edit: USA of Europe ???
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what is the difference between the usa and europe style?
why there´s 2 pool of small black for example.
is because of the size?
so we have 2 colors and 6 size = 12 pools?
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im gonna feel so pro when i get one of those !!!! omg i hope i get it
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On September 02 2008 02:32 Kacas wrote:
what is the difference between the usa and europe style?
why there´s 2 pool of small black for example.
is because of the size?
so we have 2 colors and 6 size = 12 pools?
There is no difference in the style, just in shipping costs.
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next weekend is a long way away =(
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very cool of tl
gl to those entered!
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#390. GL everyone!!!!!! eeeeeeeeeee~~~~~~
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Just a heads up to the admins, I've signed up now, so go ahead and arrange it whenever you have a moment, thx!
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#408. good luck to everyone else.
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"Thanks! Your entry has been received. You are entrant #396. Good luck!"
In some way, I'm absolutely sure this is a permutation of my favorite number. Obviously it's good luck. Go shirt!
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Man those are alot of pages.
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Damn I was going to sign up for one of these, but I'm much too large. 6'8'' 270 lbs.
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On September 02 2008 04:07 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:Damn I was going to sign up for one of these, but I'm much too large. 6'8'' 270 lbs.
You should enter, buy a shirt, then go buy another shirt off someone else who won and stitch those two together.
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On September 02 2008 04:09 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 04:07 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:Damn I was going to sign up for one of these, but I'm much too large. 6'8'' 270 lbs. You should enter, buy a shirt, then go buy another shirt off someone else who won and stitch those two together.
LOL
I'll try that.
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if i get a white one, il wear it to pub
if i get black one, il wear it to gym ^_^
btw, does medium = medium size? or medium = large?
sry im mentally retarded
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I'm 364 - so you must be something else lol
btw does Canada count as other? or USA
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I entered, although TBH i'd rather get a TL shirt. Any word on when the next batch of those is coming out? The last ones sold out of my size (small) in like 10 seconds apparently.
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dont know what the chances are gonna be but ill be happy if i win one :D
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Why would shipping be any different in canada then USA? Are dollar is even worth more right now
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Kennigit
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shipping across the border
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entrant #437
shittttt....... Need less competition...
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What's on (if anything ) the back of the shirt? Just pure black/white.
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On September 02 2008 05:10 Jonoman92 wrote:
What's on (if anything ) the back of the shirt? Just pure black/white.
a big gray CJ logo, pretty cool looking
+ Show Spoiler [Back] +
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Goddamnit my account is too new =(
Knew I shoulda made one earlier and stopped lurking.
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i entered. i cant wait
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Congrats on encouraging me to finally register. ^^
Hate that I missed this, even if I only would have had a 1 in 10 shot at one.
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whoever gets one has to take a picture of them wearing it and post a blog on general and rub it in everyones face.
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On September 02 2008 05:11 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 05:10 Jonoman92 wrote:
What's on (if anything ) the back of the shirt? Just pure black/white. a big gray CJ logo, pretty cool looking + Show Spoiler [Back] +
damn! the back looks sick!!!
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i just hope that if i manage to get one, it'll fit.
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Can anyone like tell me, it's porably info ill read later after i make this post, what the 90 95 100 105 actually represent. Also how is this payed by.
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so much luv 2 TL for this, keep em coming!
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Now that I read about korean sizes being small, I think I need a large.
Something between large and medium in american sizes would be perfect for me, but I put medium for this. Bleh Is there any where to change your entry?
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People that can fit small are lucky i don't think there will be as fierce of competition as for large.
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Honestly anybody who wins is lucky. The chances are not good for any size or color.
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On September 02 2008 08:03 Bosu wrote:
Honestly anybody who wins is lucky. The chances are not good for any size or color.
Why not? 3 draws and quite of bit of shirts seems like fair enough chances.
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On September 02 2008 09:06 Cham wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 08:03 Bosu wrote:
Honestly anybody who wins is lucky. The chances are not good for any size or color. Why not? 3 draws and quite of bit of shirts seems like fair enough chances.
Well, everyone gets 3 draws. There are 80 shirts, its day 2 of registration and we're already at 400+ registrants. Whoever wins will be lucky.
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On September 02 2008 02:32 Kacas wrote:
what is the difference between the usa and europe style?
why there´s 2 pool of small black for example.
is because of the size?
so we have 2 colors and 6 size = 12 pools?
or maybe 6 size + 2 colours = 8 rax?
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I remember Mani demanding to make a definite yes or no commitment to the shirts.Likewise, I demand to get a shirt definitely because I committed to one before there was any certainty! :S
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gl all!!! i really want to have one!!!! T_T
gj tl!!!! u pros!
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i pay money for a white ore black size l tshirt ,, maybe also m if it fits me
i pay in $ on any pokerplatform ,,,ore live cash,, ore bank transfair ,, anybody who wins and want to trade the shirt into cash contact me
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This is sweet making SC players dream come true. Good luck! I really want one!
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a whole life losing this kind of lotteries but if i get one t-shirt it wont matter to me at all
#536 hwaiting
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do you think entus will give up some more shirts?
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jeez we're in serious need of more shirts, can someone let the CJ people know -_-;;;;
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Braavos36373 Posts
On September 02 2008 13:25 iloveHieu wrote:
jeez we're in serious need of more shirts, can someone let the CJ people know -_-;;;;
CJ only gave out 500 shirts to their entire Korean fanbase, and gave us 100. If we could get more we obviously would have gotten more, and certainly the problem isn't us simply forgetting to ask for more -_-
But hey, you never know, despite the 1000's of times we explained why there's only 100, maybe it went down like this:
+ Show Spoiler +CJ: How many shirts do you guys need?
TL: Hmmm... I guess 100.
CJ: Are you sure you don't need more? We have 10,000.
TL: Nah, 100 should be enough. Nevermind the 18,000 yes responses to the poll, or the overwhelming demand in the CJ shirts thread and in the lottery threads. We only need 100, not a shirt more!
CJ: Well if you need any more, we'll ship them out as soon as you tell us! We have EXACTLY enough for everyone that wants one!
TL: Okay, we'll let you know!
* * * 6-10 weeks later* * *
iloveHieu: CAN SOMEONE LET THE CJ PEOPLE KNOW!?!
TL: oh shit! how did we not think of doing that!?!?
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Damn, only 2 days aways from the eligible date from the lottery. Oh well, good luck contestants!!
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On September 02 2008 13:37 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 13:25 iloveHieu wrote:
jeez we're in serious need of more shirts, can someone let the CJ people know -_-;;;; CJ only gave out 500 shirts to their entire Korean fanbase, and gave us 100. If we could get more we obviously would have gotten more, and certainly the problem isn't us simply forgetting to ask for more -_- But hey, you never know, despite the 1000's of times we explained why there's only 100, maybe it went down like this: + Show Spoiler +CJ: How many shirts do you guys need?
TL: Hmmm... I guess 100.
CJ: Are you sure you don't need more? We have 10,000.
TL: Nah, 100 should be enough. Nevermind the 18,000 yes responses to the poll, or the overwhelming demand in the CJ shirts thread and in the lottery threads. We only need 100, not a shirt more!
CJ: Well if you need any more, we'll ship them out as soon as you tell us! We have EXACTLY enough for everyone that wants one!
TL: Okay, we'll let you know!
* * * 6-10 weeks later* * *
iloveHieu: CAN SOMEONE LET THE CJ PEOPLE KNOW!?!
TL: oh shit! how did we not think of doing that!?!?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Exactly as I thought it happened.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
you pieces of shit. next retarded question is 2 weeks (that means you cant enter into the lottery).
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On September 02 2008 15:25 Kennigit wrote:
you pieces of shit. next retarded question is 2 weeks (that means you cant enter into the lottery).
Do you want to marry me?
NO DON'T BAN! Seriously why are people complaining.. TL.net got 100 (ONEHUNDRET) Cj Shirts which is a lot for a foreign community..!
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wow, nice shirts, hope team liquid will make such great events in the future too. maybe with other team's shirts :D good luck to all
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holy fuck, they only made 600 shirts altogether!?
Wow!
I thought TL was playing it safe when they ordered 100 -.-
Who makes 600 shirts ffs?!
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On September 01 2008 23:07 funkie wrote:
Good luck to everyone#217 (and perhaps a few others) who is are entering the lottery !
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#570.
I'm an XXL in t-shirt sizes, though. Be a shame if a large is too small (but I don't think they'd make that mistake, they did knowingly ship to America after all).
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number #407 ! GOGOGO ! xD
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On September 02 2008 16:32 cbpye wrote:
#570.
I'm an XXL in t-shirt sizes, though. Be a shame if a large is too small (but I don't think they'd make that mistake, they did knowingly ship to America after all).
A Korean large (105) is in between most American mediums and larges. I guess many people still haven't figured it out: the number is the chest measurement in centimeters. That means a 105 (large) is about 41 inches at the chest. American larges are usually 44 inches at the chest, XLs are 48 inches at the chest, and XXLs are 52 inches. It will about a foot smaller at the chest than what you wear.
Most Americans and many Europeans will not fit into any of the sizes. That is why the staff took almost all the larges, despite not being "big" by American standards. That's why I'm kinda disappointed. Half the people that ARE lucky enough to win shirts are going to realize they don't fit, and either stick them in the closet or auction them on ebay. I'm only 5'7", but I need a medium because I work out. I can wear a small, but my chest will stretch it out. The average American is 5'10".
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On September 02 2008 00:58 Mortality wrote:
Hi, can you please elaborate on preferred method of payment?
Would a cashier's check or money order work? I try not to use credit cards online and I'm not familiar with paypal, though I suppose I could figure it out.
Please note that I will find a way to get you the money if I win! (And I do have money to use!)
i would very much like to know the answer to this question as well. don't have access to a credit card.
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would be interesting to see how many people from either america or europe have entered the lottery, cos im pretty sure like 99% is lazy hamburgers!
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On September 02 2008 16:32 cbpye wrote:
#570.
I'm an XXL in t-shirt sizes, though. Be a shame if a large is too small (but I don't think they'd make that mistake, they did knowingly ship to America after all).
There's no chance an american XXL is fitting into a korean large. Shirt can still be a cool thing to have but if your plan is wear it with pride that probably won't happen
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T-T i missed the 30$ part and i registered. I thought it was free. ( 30$ isnt that expensive for a shirt but i dont like paying online + this is a shirt that you cant really wear everyday especially if none of your irl friends play video games ).
I guess that i deserve a two weeks ban. I dont even remember my number.
/wrist ---> /ban
I feel so retarded. Cant even read ...
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On September 02 2008 22:17 Boblion wrote:
T-T i missed the 30$ part and i registered. I thought it was free. ( 30$ isnt that expensive for a shirt but i dont like paying online + this is a shirt that you cant really wear everyday especially if none of your irl friends play video games ).
I guess that i deserve a two weeks ban. I dont even remember my number.
/wrist ---> /ban
I feel so retarded. Cant even read ...
A SHIRT THAT YOU CANT WEAR EVERYDAY??!?!?!?
I will wear this at school and hope the korean kids or other white kids will look at me and think that asshole has a CJ shirt and i dont....
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Braavos36373 Posts
the good thing about the CJ shirt is that people that don't know progaming simply won't know what it means so its just some random shirt
its not like one with a big fucking starcraft symbol on it, you can probably wear it places
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
It looks like a standard sports-shirt, you can easily wear this like any other shirt
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On September 02 2008 22:45 Carnac wrote:
It looks like a standard sports-shirt, you can easily wear this like any other shirt
i agree, thats why if i get a white one il wear it out to pubs/clubs , cos it looks like a smart casual sorta tshirt. and i work out at the gym wearin all balck, so it would look kinda cool there :p
lol @ one of the patches. it says hello. xD
oh yeah, and pro gaming is becoming alot more popular nowadays. when i meet people who like to play computer games, i try tell them about pro gaming and wcg etc. trying to let them know its not just all you and your nerdy friend hiding away from public in your dark room ^_^
my friends watch me play bw all the time!
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I have a feeling half the registered individuals either a) can't/don't have a means to pay for it or b) are too big for any of the sizes.
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Can anyone tell me how much will it cost to ship this shirt to Russia?
Sorry for my English^^
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On September 02 2008 23:45 ctang wrote:
I have a feeling half the registered individuals either a) can't/don't have a means to pay for it or b) are too big for any of the sizes.
They should be removed in order to increase the chances of those that are worthy!
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*cough* yea....
And whoever said it was a shirt you couldn't wear everyday is a moron, the shirt is sexy even if you don't know what CJ Entus is for. The design and patchwork is fucking boss.
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On September 02 2008 22:41 Hot_Bid wrote:
the good thing about the CJ shirt is that people that don't know progaming simply won't know what it means so its just some random shirt
its not like one with a big fucking starcraft symbol on it, you can probably wear it places
Well i guess you are right.
Design isnt geeky at all. I like the logo.
I changed my mind if i win the lottery i gonna buy it. I will have to learn how to use paypal .
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I'm 6'2" and entered for a small black or small white.
fuck lol.
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Braavos36373 Posts
On September 03 2008 00:15 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 23:45 ctang wrote:
I have a feeling half the registered individuals either a) can't/don't have a means to pay for it or b) are too big for any of the sizes. They should be removed in order to increase the chances of those that are worthy! >> << *cough* yea.... And whoever said it was a shirt you couldn't wear everyday is a moron, the shirt is sexy even if you don't know what CJ Entus is for. The design and patchwork is fucking boss.
well, we're going to draw a waitlist too, so if people don't pay the next person in line will get it
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You are entrant #608
I still don't know the means to how I'm paying for this i guess it's time to open up a pay-pal account
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Means of paying? Fuk rob a bank if you got to, i swear to god if these people in this lottery who have no intention of paying for a shirt get picked over me i will shit a brick, and appoligize to the tellers.
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how much time is allowed to purchase the shirt if you win the lottery?
I mean approximately how much tine would the waitlisters have to wait to see if they have a shot?
kind of drunk right now..
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On September 03 2008 01:52 AdamBanks wrote:
Means of paying? Fuk rob a bank if you got to, i swear to god if these people in this lottery who have no intention of paying for a shirt get picked over me i will shit a brick, and appoligize to the tellers.
Well it's not that i don't have the money just wondering what they accept. Credit Card, Pay-pal, check? money order?
Mail kennigit money as he denies you ever sent him any
cause I'm not sure how i feel about the last one
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On September 03 2008 01:38 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2008 00:15 fanatacist wrote:On September 02 2008 23:45 ctang wrote:
I have a feeling half the registered individuals either a) can't/don't have a means to pay for it or b) are too big for any of the sizes. They should be removed in order to increase the chances of those that are worthy! >> << *cough* yea.... And whoever said it was a shirt you couldn't wear everyday is a moron, the shirt is sexy even if you don't know what CJ Entus is for. The design and patchwork is fucking boss. well, we're going to draw a waitlist too, so if people don't pay the next person in line will get it
I was also referring to the people who can't fit - although I understand we can't do anything about that, I think that the previous suggestion of not allowing people to re-sell on eBay or otherwise should be ignored. That way if people decide to be nice about their CJ shirts that don't fit them, they will notify people on TL first so that some other deals can be lined out. Sound good? [:
If you agree with me maybe after the drawing there could be another thread or an edit to the OP, just in case there are people interested in this kind of deal.
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Payment will most likely be through PayPal or some other online equivalent and the winners will have a limited duration in which they must pay before someone else is picked.
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Next time you may consider this team uniform.
CJ is also perfectly fine I admit.
Black ones look much better though. As for CJ same for MBC or whatever team.
Players in white look somewhat like F1 drivers to me.
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Is there someplace in TL where I can check my entrant number? I'm pretty sure I'm #233 or #232, and I can't quite remember which. I realize it says that you'll announce winners by PM, but I'd still like to know, just for peace of mind.
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I can't use a money order?
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Braavos36373 Posts
On September 03 2008 03:19 CDRdude wrote:
Is there someplace in TL where I can check my entrant number? I'm pretty sure I'm #233 or #232, and I can't quite remember which. I realize it says that you'll announce winners by PM, but I'd still like to know, just for peace of mind.
We're not only announcing by PM but also a huge newspost, obviously we want everyone to know who won. It should be a big deal and not discreet.
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From reading this thread I get the feeling that there are going to be a LOT of disappointed Americans. Clothes in north america are absolutely huge. I'm 5'6", 130lbs and it wasn't until I moved to Europe that I could consistently find adult clothes which actually fit me. Half the time nobody would stock anything smaller than a US/Canada size medium, which is like a large anywhere else in the world. Thank goodness that grunge was just coming into fashion during my teen years - at least baggy and oversized was cool then, lol! I'm picturing the stunned faces now as people begin to open their lucky new CJ shirts only to find them replaced with childrens clothing 0_o That said, if anyone ends up with a size small that doesn't stand a chance of fitting them, I've got a crisp £50 note to trade for it 
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Korea (South)11570 Posts
50 pounds? that's like $100 shit thats a lot of money just for a shirt...
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i feel worse everytime i get home and check this and see more comments of people saying
*woot #12179 good luck too me!*
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well, good thing is that the number of entries coming should slow down now
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I can already smell my new shirt!
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This is awesome, Thanks for all the work.
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On September 03 2008 06:21 stiga wrote:
i feel worse everytime i get home and check this and see more comments of people saying
*woot #12179 good luck too me!*
I'm starting to doubt my chances more and more too... don't worry, we can pray together!
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On September 03 2008 06:16 CaucasianAsian wrote:
50 pounds? that's like $100 shit thats a lot of money just for a shirt...
It's the same as a night out at the club. I'd take a CJ shirt over one night of partying.
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On September 03 2008 07:22 Bozali wrote:
I can already smell my new shirt!
...are you sure it's not just the surströmming?
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#651
80 shirts between 651 people is like 12% chance of winning right? Considering that there's nothing to lose (by entering. Meaning you don't have to buy your number), that's pretty good.
Does anyone know if there is a waiting period after registering with paypal? If not, then I may as wait until I win before registering.
Or I can just make a money order if that's ok. And for those of you thinking "omg money order lolz kennigit will steal your money", I'm pretty sure hundreds of KENNIGIT STOLE MY MONEY threads outweighs $30
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On September 03 2008 10:14 hide.X wrote:
#651
80 shirts between 651 people is like 12% chance of winning right? Considering that there's nothing to lose (by entering. Meaning you don't have to buy your number), that's pretty good.
Does anyone know if there is a waiting period after registering with paypal? If not, then I may as wait until I win before registering.
Or I can just make a money order if that's ok. And for those of you thinking "omg money order lolz kennigit will steal your money", I'm pretty sure hundreds of KENNIGIT STOLE MY MONEY threads outweighs $30
Less or more then 12% i mean i'm guessing like atlest 75% of the request are for large and medium esp in black.
If you wear small either you are lucky are all small people don't like to post must be a small person thing.
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If I win I'm going to be so fucking happy.
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On September 03 2008 09:00 YanGpaN wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2008 06:21 stiga wrote:
i feel worse everytime i get home and check this and see more comments of people saying
*woot #12179 good luck too me!* I'm starting to doubt my chances more and more too... don't worry, we can pray together!
im just gonna photoshop a picture of me wearing it and just hope im happy. plus i have a buddah for luck and its belly is completely gone from me rubbing it
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On September 03 2008 10:14 hide.X wrote:
#651
80 shirts between 651 people is like 12% chance of winning right? Considering that there's nothing to lose (by entering. Meaning you don't have to buy your number), that's pretty good.
overall, this will probably be close to 1 in 10 chance of winning. but then you need to take into consideration what sizes people ordered, against the number of shirts available, and with up to 3 options, one's chances drop quite a bit. especially if you want a large
for USA, there are 22 smalls, 19 meds, and 7 larges
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If I win, I am going to have a contest of some sort where I will award the winner my shirt.
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Osaka27132 Posts
We really should have charged like $2 to enter the lottery.
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On September 03 2008 13:19 Manifesto7 wrote:
We really should have charged like $2 to enter the lottery.
Then the shirts if enough entered should have been free. And it be like a real lottery.
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well I'm pretty sure I can fit a small because my shirts are mostly small and I'm not from USA (medium is loose on me, but sometimes my shoulders are a bit tight in small if the store has midget clothing). Ordered mediums and a small so if I'm drawn I should get a shirt. It must suck to be large.
For those that win then fail, maybe they should get something else to make up for it? like a cjshirt.jpg
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lol .... plz i need it! =)
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I can't wait to cram my six foot 200lbs frame into the korean small
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On September 03 2008 22:38 AdamBanks wrote:I can't wait to cram my six foot 200lbs frame into the korean small
DICK T_T
Small might actually fit me come onnnnnnnn
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I wouldn't have minded a $2 entry fee if it would've weeded out some people.
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On September 03 2008 14:01 IzzyCraft wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2008 13:19 Manifesto7 wrote:
We really should have charged like $2 to enter the lottery. Then the shirts if enough entered should have been free. And it be like a real lottery.
or just knock off a few bucks from the price of the cost
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OMG. I joined July 2nd. :'(
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I also joined after the required date and really don't understand why it is like that. Honestly, I am a reader of tl since watching the start of the gomtv star inv, but after reading through the board, I saw that there are over 90% of things actually I do not won't to read nor to be connected with. I am no fanboy and I will not post stuff like "forGG will looooose for sure" , "flash will %&$ jaedong" and all this nonsense which I am tired of... thats why I decided it would be better to read more news than comments but makes me this not a daily user of tl?
I finally joined to express my thoughts about the lottery finding out that I can't be in it anyway.. sad but thats my point anyway...
and now tl, bring back more news about starcraft in korea, thats were the site lacks for the last few weeks at least...
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Because people who have been IN the community and not just observing it deserve a chance to get it above those who just joined in the past 2 months, some of them in hopes of getting these shirts.
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yeah! thousands of ppl just joined just to get these shirts!!! do you really believe that??
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Doesn't matter. They aren't eligible. =)
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On September 03 2008 05:15 jgad wrote:From reading this thread I get the feeling that there are going to be a LOT of disappointed Americans. Clothes in north america are absolutely huge. I'm 5'6", 130lbs and it wasn't until I moved to Europe that I could consistently find adult clothes which actually fit me. Half the time nobody would stock anything smaller than a US/Canada size medium, which is like a large anywhere else in the world. Thank goodness that grunge was just coming into fashion during my teen years - at least baggy and oversized was cool then, lol! I'm picturing the stunned faces now as people begin to open their lucky new CJ shirts only to find them replaced with childrens clothing 0_o That said, if anyone ends up with a size small that doesn't stand a chance of fitting them, I've got a crisp £50 note to trade for it
I'm slightly bigger than you but it's the same situation for me. The best place I've found to get US clothes that fit me well is to go vintage clothing stores, since apparently clothes from the 70's and 80's were much smaller/tighter.
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Braavos36373 Posts
On September 04 2008 07:16 mrhilton wrote:
I also joined after the required date and really don't understand why it is like that. Honestly, I am a reader of tl since watching the start of the gomtv star inv, but after reading through the board, I saw that there are over 90% of things actually I do not won't to read nor to be connected with. I am no fanboy and I will not post stuff like "forGG will looooose for sure" , "flash will %&$ jaedong" and all this nonsense which I am tired of... thats why I decided it would be better to read more news than comments but makes me this not a daily user of tl?
On September 04 2008 07:20 mrhilton wrote:
yeah! thousands of ppl just joined just to get these shirts!!! do you really believe that??
As was explained before several times, without a join date restriction its pretty easy for people to just make a second account (if they are smart, from another IP address) and use that to enter as well. That screws up the entire concept of a lottery. Also, we want our shirts to go to community members, not people that see this as a free shot and have never browsed TL.net.
The "nonsense" that you can't be bothered to post or be connected with is what others consider participating and interacting with a community. If you want to sit and watch VODs by yourself feel free, but I certainly wouldn't want to give a shirt to someone who will never post about it or about CJ, and certainly not someone who doesn't want to participate or be connected with the community.
I finally joined to express my thoughts about the lottery finding out that I can't be in it anyway.. sad but thats my point anyway...
and now tl, bring back more news about starcraft in korea, thats were the site lacks for the last few weeks at least...
There's been plenty of news articles regarding the Korean scene the last few weeks. I see several articles, including an interview and miscellaneous updates. The only possible slowdown in the past couple days or so is because there haven't been any events. I'm surprised you didn't notice these things since you don't post and only read news.
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I don't really post either but I registered in march 06 =p
Sucks to be large. Sucks to be registered after July 1st.
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there should be a post count included to enter as well imo
just a thought don't give me 2-week ban =(
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Next lottery make size Giant plz
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well im 5'9 im sure a medium will fit me pretty well O_o i believe
unless weight is an issue then im about 204 hahaha
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On September 04 2008 10:04 8Pylon wrote:
well im 5'9 im sure a medium will fit me pretty well O_o i believe
unless weight is an issue then im about 204 hahaha
Yea I think you might want a Large if you do win o.O
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On September 04 2008 10:04 8Pylon wrote:
well im 5'9 im sure a medium will fit me pretty well O_o i believe
unless weight is an issue then im about 204 hahaha
the US (and maybe canada) are the only places in the world where you would be considered a M
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On September 04 2008 10:04 8Pylon wrote:
well im 5'9 im sure a medium will fit me pretty well O_o i believe
unless weight is an issue then im about 204 hahaha
I'm 5'11 and 150 right now and I thought that an Asian M (which is really between an American M and S) would be a kind of tight fit...
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Perhaps there should be options for Small, Medium, Large, and iloveoov. Just a thought.
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On September 04 2008 07:16 mrhilton wrote:
I am no fanboy and I will not post stuff like "forGG will looooose for sure" , "flash will %&$ jaedong" and all this nonsense which I am tired of...
I think that reason alone is enough reason for others to get the shirts and not you. I stay up incredibly late or get up early to watch every time CJ plays in proleague and every time XellOs or Savior play in individual leagues (usually starts around 5am local time). I often make a few comments in the livecast threads, as any die-hard fan would do. I'm pretty sure I would get a lot more enjoyment and use out of a shirt than someone who thinks commenting in livecast threads is stupid, and couldn't even go through the trouble of registering for the site.
There's obviously even more important reasons to not let new accounts enter the lottery, but pretty much any true fan that knows of the site would have registered, whether it's to have the opportunity to post or create threads when the need arises, or just for liquibet or PMs. As it is, I doubt a quarter of the entrants are real CJ Entus fans; I've seen multiple people complaining after entering about a 30 dollar shirt being too pricey, saying "I wish it were (some other team)," or acknowledging no size will fit them. Sadly, most of the shirts are going to go to people like this. Without registration limits, 90% of the shirts would have gone to people like this. At least I know a couple dozen will be worn with pride.
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I agree 100% with LonelyMargarita.
When the very first poll was issued, I guess I answered "no", because I am a Lecaf fan.
But CJ is #2 so I quickly changed my mind after thinking about it for 1/4s. I can have Ma Jae Yoon's shirt for 30$ !?! All these times I posted "stupid" one-liners like "Go Savior! I still believe!" actually meant something. I and many others suffered the mockery of FBH fans countless times. Many kept cheering for CJ even when they got trounced hard in Proleague.
These guys deserve the shirts most. Good luck to them (me included)
I hope I can wear my CJ shirt for Savior's next MSL final (yeah, I still believe...)
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On September 04 2008 16:28 LonelyMargarita wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2008 07:16 mrhilton wrote:
I am no fanboy and I will not post stuff like "forGG will looooose for sure" , "flash will %&$ jaedong" and all this nonsense which I am tired of...
I think that reason alone is enough reason for others to get the shirts and not you. I stay up incredibly late or get up early to watch every time CJ plays in proleague and every time XellOs or Savior play in individual leagues (usually starts around 5am local time). I often make a few comments in the livecast threads, as any die-hard fan would do. I'm pretty sure I would get a lot more enjoyment and use out of a shirt than someone who thinks commenting in livecast threads is stupid, and couldn't even go through the trouble of registering for the site. There's obviously even more important reasons to not let new accounts enter the lottery, but pretty much any true fan that knows of the site would have registered, whether it's to have the opportunity to post or create threads when the need arises, or just for liquibet or PMs. As it is, I doubt a quarter of the entrants are real CJ Entus fans; I've seen multiple people complaining after entering about a 30 dollar shirt being too pricey, saying "I wish it were (some other team)," or acknowledging no size will fit them. Sadly, most of the shirts are going to go to people like this. Without registration limits, 90% of the shirts would have gone to people like this. At least I know a couple dozen will be worn with pride.
yeah i agree and ill be one of the couple dozen who will wear it with pride
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On September 04 2008 19:03 lxginverse wrote:
yeah i agree and ill be one of the couple dozen who will wear it with pride
Agreed. Gotta show my mad respect for Much
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On September 04 2008 13:28 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2008 10:04 8Pylon wrote:
well im 5'9 im sure a medium will fit me pretty well O_o i believe
unless weight is an issue then im about 204 hahaha the US (and maybe canada) are the only places in the world where you would be considered a M
pretty sure even in the US and Canada M wouldn't be considered a good fit there. I used to be that height/weight, and I definitely did not find an american M a comfortable fit.
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hope u get the op to buy one the black looks sick but i'll b happy with either :D :D :D
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On September 04 2008 15:45 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2008 10:04 8Pylon wrote:
well im 5'9 im sure a medium will fit me pretty well O_o i believe
unless weight is an issue then im about 204 hahaha I'm 5'11 and 150 right now and I thought that an Asian M (which is really between an American M and S) would be a kind of tight fit...
alright thanks haha i know those korean boys are small @_@
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For the first time in hundreds of years, I am happy for being a 3 feet midget.
And if I don't win, I'll send Idra a PM and make him an offer (for one of his shirts) he can't refuse.
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sadly, LonelyMargarita and Hot_Bid totally missed my point!
saying I'm not a fanboy may be wrong (for ex.I really like stork and the cj players, esp. xellos), I watched the proleague final with a korean flag on me and I doubt that most of the ppl here have btw I played about one hour of starcraft in my life but I already watched endless hours of games over a year....
what I meant is that I don't like the way ppl talk about other progamers on the board. I don't like those bogus predictions, most of them failed anyway and thats why I decided not to register. I don't like that power rank and this unexplainable hate against stork. Makes me this not a fan? (meaning not trashing anybody else at the same time)
I'm even sure that I watched the national geographic documentary about cj more often in replay than anyone else, but ppl should not think that someone maybe not at the same level of fandom just because he isn't registered (or at least that long)
In my county, 30 dollars is nearly nothing and overall, it is sad not to be able to participate altough I didn't finally join "just" for a shirt.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
So you don't really like teamliquid..the forums...the bogus predictions, power rank, random people not liking a player...but we should make a special exception lol.
This is both a safeguard against multiple accounts and to reward the people who make teamliquid what it is.
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Calgary25969 Posts
On September 05 2008 06:56 mrhilton wrote:
saying I'm not a fanboy may be wrong (for ex.I really like stork and the cj players, esp. xellos)
Carlodjin?
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On September 04 2008 19:03 lxginverse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2008 16:28 LonelyMargarita wrote:On September 04 2008 07:16 mrhilton wrote:
I am no fanboy and I will not post stuff like "forGG will looooose for sure" , "flash will %&$ jaedong" and all this nonsense which I am tired of...
I think that reason alone is enough reason for others to get the shirts and not you. I stay up incredibly late or get up early to watch every time CJ plays in proleague and every time XellOs or Savior play in individual leagues (usually starts around 5am local time). I often make a few comments in the livecast threads, as any die-hard fan would do. I'm pretty sure I would get a lot more enjoyment and use out of a shirt than someone who thinks commenting in livecast threads is stupid, and couldn't even go through the trouble of registering for the site. There's obviously even more important reasons to not let new accounts enter the lottery, but pretty much any true fan that knows of the site would have registered, whether it's to have the opportunity to post or create threads when the need arises, or just for liquibet or PMs. As it is, I doubt a quarter of the entrants are real CJ Entus fans; I've seen multiple people complaining after entering about a 30 dollar shirt being too pricey, saying "I wish it were (some other team)," or acknowledging no size will fit them. Sadly, most of the shirts are going to go to people like this. Without registration limits, 90% of the shirts would have gone to people like this. At least I know a couple dozen will be worn with pride. yeah i agree and ill be one of the couple dozen who will wear it with pride
Same here. I have always liked CJ Entus since their SUMA GO team days. Back in the days when they have no money and how Xellos solely carried the team is something that touched me. The shirt isn't just a luxury to me : it is a priceless celebration of how far CJ had gone till today.
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On September 04 2008 09:29 iloveHieu wrote:
there should be a post count included to enter as well imo
Just so that ppl who don't make pointless spam all the time couldn't participate?
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On September 06 2008 02:58 dranjam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2008 09:29 iloveHieu wrote:
there should be a post count included to enter as well imo
Just so that ppl who don't make pointless spam all the time couldn't participate?
most likely so those who contribute to the community are the ones who win i think is where he was going with it.
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ill wear it everytime i play starcraft!
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
is the lottery drawing today?
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On September 07 2008 20:55 3 Lions wrote:
is the lottery drawing today?
They said the end of the week. So, it's either today or tomorrow. Just have some patience.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On September 07 2008 21:16 TheNikeYork wrote:They said the end of the week. So, it's either today or tomorrow. Just have some patience.
it's 9:00 here in America, and it's 10:00 AM in Korea Monday
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On September 08 2008 10:00 3 Lions wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2008 21:16 TheNikeYork wrote:On September 07 2008 20:55 3 Lions wrote:
is the lottery drawing today? They said the end of the week. So, it's either today or tomorrow. Just have some patience. it's 9:00 here in America, and it's 10:00 AM in Korea Monday
Just have some patience. It won't kill you to wait a few more hours, or even another night.
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this whole thing could have made for a great april fool's joke. lol
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On September 08 2008 10:13 CyuntiyuL wrote:
this whole thing could have made for a great april fool's joke. lol
except considering.... it....is.....September...... .
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On September 08 2008 10:13 CyuntiyuL wrote:
this whole thing could have made for a great lethal april fool's joke. lol
fixed. can a moral person really joke about selling CJ shirts?
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in light of google question picture thread
"can a moral person really joke about selling CJ shirts?"
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My gonads are suffering from a sudden bout of cerulean anguish... I can't take this tease much longer 0_o
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NO, we're not going to believe how your dog ate the shirts when you realize they're far more valuable than that thirty dollar monaysss!!
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On September 06 2008 02:58 dranjam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2008 09:29 iloveHieu wrote:
there should be a post count included to enter as well imo
Just so that ppl who don't make pointless spam all the time couldn't participate?
More like people who don't post AT ALL (you) shouldn't participate.
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News are written here for people who want to read them, and I am happen to be one of those beautiful and valued users that do exactly this. Number of posts written does not implicate penis lenght, inteligence or affiliation with the community, no matter how hard you try.
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On September 09 2008 03:16 dranjam wrote:
News are written here for people who want to read them, and I am happen to be one of those beautiful and valued users that do exactly this. Number of posts written does not implicate penis lenght, inteligence or affiliation with the community, no matter how hard you try.
If the posts are decent, or are in some way giving something back to the community, it does show a greater affiliation than someone who just reads the news on the site. I can understand coming in just for the news to begin with, but TL is more than just SC news.
Does that mean that someone who registered before the cut off limit shouldnt participate? no it doesnt, it just means that when alot of shirts are given to users with under 20 posts people will get mad, as they haven't given back anything to the community to deserve one as much as someone whos been contributing for years.
As for your first bit of being "a beautiful and valued user" to just read the news, 99% of the people who post on tl most likely read the news threads, as well as all the little bits of news in the other areas of the site, that don't hit the news area. So just by lurking doesn't prop you up on a pedestal above everyone as most are doing what you are, and more.
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I've got to say I am using teamliquid.net very frequently as well! I do not see the sense in answering to all threads and if there is a good question I am sure there is somebody out there who is more competent to answer! But I am a big fan of OSL / MSL and I am watching basically all the vods available so why should somebody like me have a worse chance to get picked?
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On September 09 2008 03:37 HaSDe wrote:
I've got to say I am using teamliquid.net very frequently as well! I do not see the sense in answering to all threads and if there is a good question I am sure there is somebody out there who is more competent to answer! But I am a big fan of OSL / MSL and I am watching basically all the vods available so why should somebody like me have a worse chance to get picked?
The general view will be along the lines of this.
You two posters who join at the same time, say a year ago.
One person spends 99% of his time lurking, and comes out to post once every few months.
The other posts a few times everyday, creates threads, etc... overall becomes a contributing member of the community.
Then a contest is initiated saying only people who joined on X date are eligible and these two are the only ones allowed. General view would be the guy who posts and contributes is who should win, and not the one who appears once in a blue moon to say something.
Do i agree with it, to a point, i would much prefer active posters who go out of their way to do things for the site to win, over someone who just lurks. I've contributed to this site, and sure want a shirt, but i know of users who deserve one way way more than I do, and yet the contest isnt to those deserving so much as it is those who get lucky. Hense a lottery.
If alot of forum reg's dont win one, and alot of lurkers who never post win them, and once won will either a)vanish after sayign thankyou b)vanish completely, c)become more active or d) be fucktards.
Regardless people although will say things like "congradulations" or the like, people will still resent it. Just accept the fact that people don't want to see lurkers win, they want to see names of users who they know, or recognize win.
As for the sense of posting on TL, you can meet people here, who generally are pretty decent people, you get to contribute to an online entity that you deeply enjoy, learn things outside the scopes of just the game, etc...
This site means alot to many people, try browsing through more than the starcraft news and you might find things you want to post in or the like, but dont dismiss posting because "someone is more qualified" There usually is, but it doesn't mean your voice doesnt carry any weight.
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Braavos36373 Posts
On September 09 2008 03:16 dranjam wrote:
News are written here for people who want to read them, and I am happen to be one of those beautiful and valued users that do exactly this. Number of posts written does not implicate penis lenght, inteligence or affiliation with the community, no matter how hard you try.
On September 09 2008 03:37 HaSDe wrote:
I've got to say I am using teamliquid.net very frequently as well! I do not see the sense in answering to all threads and if there is a good question I am sure there is somebody out there who is more competent to answer! But I am a big fan of OSL / MSL and I am watching basically all the vods available so why should somebody like me have a worse chance to get picked?
There's nothing wrong with reading the news or browsing TL for information and VODs. Doing this however doesn't entitle you to anything, even though both your posts seem to imply it does entitle you to a lottery ticket.
I don't see why you feel everyone who simply reads news here should default to having a chance at a shirt. We reserved shirts for staff for reasons like contribution and participation, and you obviously don't feel like you deserve an equal chance as they do at having one.
Participation and interaction with the community is something that has value, its something that generates at least some sort of worth to other users in the forum. Yes, some people just spam or whatever, but that still counts, and the Moderators weed out the truly bad ones.
We set a bottom line, and the cutoff is pretty low (anyone who registered before one month ago). Even though we wanted this lottery to be pretty egalitarian (no postcount bias), we still feel that we should encourage user registration and participation here, since we did make the connections and actually get the shirts. That's not too much to ask is it? Many websites require registration to even view the content they have.
Look on the brightside, in the future at least you'll have an account that is registered. But don't let it sit there at < X posts, because future contests and events might have a minimum postcount requirement. Who knows??
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Braavos36373 Posts
As for news on the lottery itself, please stand by as we're figuring out how to get payment processed, and we'll announce the winners when we have that information.
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well, i hate to say it, but there is a difference in the subsets within the community. for instance, tl.net consists of people who enjoy the game, in playing or watching it. but that community wouldnt exist if there were only one population - what if everyone here simply came here often and posted nothing? there would be little content, little contributions, little health, and the community would deteriorate. there needs to be active members, people who breathe life into the scene. writing articles, uploading videos, discussing games, these are all little things, but they all add up to the teamliquid experience.
in a nutshell, this is a thanks to those who have been here for the long run and help make tl.net the place it is
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I have to agree to a degree. Of course my input isn't as big as other people who are bigger SC fans then myself and are actively participating in the community, but I am still a part of it. The news are written to be read, and that's what I do. The writer if asked would probably be quite satisfied knowing that I come here every now and then and read the post he wrote, and appreciate it enough to come back again. Because me, and many others like me, make this website visited and successful, and his effort worthwhile.
And Hot_Bid, if your aim to have a number of users generating an amount of random posts to have a chance at lotteries, you need bots, not humans.
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Braavos36373 Posts
On September 10 2008 08:39 dranjam wrote:
I have to agree to a degree. Of course my input isn't as big as other people who are bigger SC fans then myself and are actively participating in the community, but I am still a part of it. The news are written to be read, and that's what I do. The writer if asked would probably be quite satisfied knowing that I come here every now and then and read the post he wrote, and appreciate it enough to come back again. Because me, and many others like me, make this website visited and successful, and his effort worthwhile.
And Hot_Bid, if your aim to have a number of users generating an amount of random posts to have a chance at lotteries, you need bots, not humans.
You are a member of this community, there's no doubting that. However, in order to truly contribute you must post and be active. Nobody is judging you for not doing that. It's not a requirement, we don't make you do this to read the news or get the VODs or watch our programs. You come here to read news, you get to read news. Nobody is taking that away from you. That's fine.
Yes we value people that read news and are interested in progaming. But we are not a pay site--we're all volunteers. Our news is generated FROM the community. Thus, simply reading our news is not "making" or "building" or "contributing" as you seem to imply. Actually doing something is. If everyone just came to read news and did what you did, we'd have no site, and no news for you to read. Thus we want to encourage registration and posting. This isn't something crazy, every forum wants more users and more posts. What's so wrong or unfair with that?
It took us quite a bit of effort to build the reputation and connections required to get these shirts, and we're selling them at 0 profit to as many of our community members as possible. Its amazing that some people would complain that they don't get a fair chance at them when they haven't taken 5 minutes to register and post on our forums.
For the reasons stated above, and for multiple-entry fairness concerns, we wanted the shirts to go to people who have registered. Maybe in the future we'll only want stuff to go to people who have 500+ posts, or people who have contributed. Whatever the cutoff is, I feel our reasons are perfectly justified and fair. We didn't sign some contract stating that you are entitled to a shirt by simply visiting our website and reading our content.
In addition, I think this lottery is quite successful in accomplishing our goals. It got you to register, didn't it?
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