• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:34
CEST 15:34
KST 22:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0
Community News
5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)59Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition275.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)119$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 154
StarCraft 2
General
PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!
Tourneys
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I'm making videos again BW General Discussion Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game Whose hotkey signature is this?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3
Strategy
TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art Current Meta Proposed Glossary of Strategic Uncertainty 9 hatch vs 10 hatch vs 12 hatch
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread Stop the Construction YouTube Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Inbreeding: Why Do We Do It…
Peanutsc
From Tilt to Ragequit:The Ps…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1164 users

[PL] 07-16 Weekly Stats Report!

Forum Index > News
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
July 16 2008 08:41 GMT
#1
[image loading]


It's the final weekly stats report, and I'd like to start it with an apology and another correction. Last week I informed you all that the playoffs will have the top six teams in it. This is not true. Our translator missed something. The six teams will only enter the playoffs next season. This season will only see the top four teams entering the playoffs.

[image loading]


With the all matches done now we get to see the final standings, and what a surprise this season has turned into. In first place we see Samsung Khan at the top again, revitalised by the emergence of Jangbi as a true force, as well as by some young players performing well.

In second place we have SKT who have come back all guns blazing this season. With the appointment of Oov as a coach their Terran players have shown fantastic play, especially Midas. Another strong player for SKT is BeSt, who ends the season on third position.

In third place we have OGN, who have been something of a surprise this season. With no big name players (except perhaps Luxury), and a poor start to the season, OGN have come back to show fantastic results at the end of the season.

The final team to go through is STX SouL, who have managed to avoid losing any of their final matches in order to secure themselves a position in the playoffs. With many experienced players, and some dangerous rookies, STX looks like a real threat for the playoffs.

[image loading]


In the map standings we see the winning percentages drawing closer to 50% as the season comes to a close. Overall, the maps seem to favour Terran slightly, especially when taking into consideration the amount of TvT matches played.

However, Zerg has made something of a comeback in the last few weeks, and have moved up to 43% winning percentage, showing that it can keep up on most of the new maps (except Wuthering Heights).

Protoss has also shown decent winning records on most new maps, and they have excelled on last season's maps. The matches in the playoffs will almost certainly be the last time we see Katrina played profesionally, and perhaps it will also be the end of Blue Storm. More than many maps, I think these two maps have defined a distinctive, if not always balanced, period of pro-starcraft, and it's with some sadness that I watvh them go.

[image loading]


The 1v1 rankings this week will make many people jubilant, and many others feel a sense of unjustness. Flash, after 13 consecutive weeks on top, has been dethroned by Pure in the last day of game play. After the extroadinaroy draw, followed by a loss to Jangbi, and Pure's victory this week, Flash has moved down to second place, while Pure has past him for first place.

Fortunately for the Flash fans, KeSPA counts most wins, and not the number of wins when losses are subtracted. Because of this, Flash will still take the coveted "Most Wins" prize.

Other than at the top, little has changed. Midas is the biggest mover, dropping down considerably after two consecutive losses.

There are surprisingly two MBC players in the top 10, something that might not be guessed from their team's 10-12 score. In contrast, STX has only one player in the top 10, but their 14-8 score reflects a much better team performance by the other players.

[image loading]


Finally, in the 2v2 section there are some big changes to report. Fake Yellow and Zeus have busted their way into second position, over taking long time leaders TT and Jihyun.

Similarly, Foru and Clon have moved up miraculously in the last week to take top spot. This team of old timers have shown yet again why they are one of the most feared teams in the game, and ACE's biggest weapon.

The team with the most wins though is still TT and Jihyun, who have played in an amazing 17 of Samsung's 22 matches, and have won 11 of those. This team has once again shown why Samsung has been a powerhouse of teamplay over the years.


[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Line-ups] +
No line-ups have been released yet


STX SouL 4 - 2 OGN Sparkyz
STX SouL 4 - 3 SK Telecom T1
STX SouL 2 - 4 Samsung KHAN

With no official line-ups out already, I will simply ramble on here about my predictions.

STX SouL are a massive threat in my opinion. They field a tremendous line-up of purely talented players, players that can produce magic. Starting with experienced players such as July, and Hwasin, and working through to the newer breakthroughs such as Kal, Shuttle, Sheis, and Huskal, they are one of the most unpredictable and dangerous teams in the playoffs.

Their greatest weakness lies in their 2v2s, where, although they have been doing well, they have no "ace" team. STX has no 2v2 team that is well seasoned, and has done well against all competition. Instead they have a few mediocre teams that do well enough against weaker teams, but remain untested against strong teams. This could be very costly for STX with the playoff's setup.

I will say this straigh-up: I do not believe OGN Sparkyz can make it through. Not only do they lack big name players that are certain to take wins (once again, excluding perhaps Luxury), but they also lack consistently strong players that could take wins. While Luxury is a strong player, he is not dependable enough yet, and the same can be said of the whole OGN team.

In recent matches, OGN have been dependent on players like Leta, Shine, and Chalrenge succeeding. Unfortunately, against top competition, I do not think these players have what it takes. With that in mind, they have shown a fabulous streak of form recently, so they just might pull of some magic.

SK Telecom T1 are perhaps the most interesting team in the playoffs. They entered this season with massive structural changes, but few new prospects playing for them. They thus had to depend on their old players reemerging, and successfully beating the young players (something which they were unable to do in previous seasons). And they did just that.

Midas is on a roll this season, beating what we would typically consider "better" players left right and center, while Canata has been destructing experienced Terran players and rookies alike. Best, although not old, has come into his own all of a sudden, and is one of the hottest progamers at the moment.

Added to this, SKT have invested their rookies into teamplay, and it shows. Rumble and Bul_T have done extremely well, especially considering that neither are considered great potential players.

With all this in mind, I think SKT has perhaps the most dependable, and all round balanced, team. Whether this will be enough to hold off STX's onslaught, or stop a team full of top ranked KeSPA players such as Samsung, will remain to be seen.

Which leaves us with only Samsung KHAN, champions of the 2007 Proleague R1, they show no sign of weakening. With strong aces like Firebathero, Stork, and Jangbi, and young talents like Hades and Frozean, as well as a whole line-up of experienced players, and a plethora of possible 2v2 teams, Samsung has a Proleague line-up that just seems to work.

However, there are some chinks in their amour. Stork has not been at his ace form recently, and Firebathero is more likely to lose than win if he catches a Protoss player. Jangbi is a strong player, but he is notoriously inconsistent, and I am uncertain if he can beat other ace players on a consistent basis.

With that said, I still think Samsung has the strongest line-up, and they are my favourites to take this season. They have the depth that counts, and as long as they don't get a few bad match-ups, or their top players don't misfire, they should take the finals.

+ Show Spoiler [Last Week's Predictions] +

Match Accuracy: 6/10
Game Accuracy: 2/10

CJ Entus 2 - 3 Lecaf OZ
SK Telecom T1 2 - 3 OGN Sparkyz

Hanbit Stars 2 - 3 Air Force ACE
WeMade FOX 3 - 2 eSTRO

MBCGame HERO 2 - 3 STX SouL
KTF MagicNs 3 - 1 Samsung KHAN

OGN Sparkyz 3 - 2 Lecaf OZ
SK Telecom T1 1 - 3 CJ Entus

Hanbit Stars 3 - 2 eSTRO
WeMade FOX 3 - 2 Air Force ACE



And that concludes yet another season of the Weekly Stats Report, and possibly my last. Last Romantic will handle the play-off reports for this season, and next season I will move to MSL Previews. Hopefully this will guarantee you all a more up to date R&S, as well as some fresh ideas in the proleague news posts.

I hope you've all enjoyed it as much as I have, and see you all with some hype next season!
Moderator
RinoZerg
Profile Joined May 2008
Australia130 Posts
July 16 2008 08:56 GMT
#2
Great write up Daigomi.
STX SouL all the way!
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
July 16 2008 09:06 GMT
#3
Thanks Daigomi

I just wish we had a July vs Flash
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
July 16 2008 09:06 GMT
#4
Why is Best's record 12-3 while his win/loss differential is +8?
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
July 16 2008 09:11 GMT
#5
OMG Epic.

Thanks alot July Vs Flash would have been soooo epic, maybe a Best July reunion?
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
July 16 2008 09:23 GMT
#6
Sorry EvoChamber, that's just a mistake on my part. My usual method of copy-pasting the stats broke this week, so I had to enter them by hand. Best is 12-5, not 12-3.
Moderator
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15352 Posts
July 16 2008 09:44 GMT
#7
Thanks a lot for the report Daigomi. These make Proleague that much more accessible.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-16 10:14:45
July 16 2008 10:04 GMT
#8
For a difference of 8 isn't it 12-4?

Anyway, excellent article. People like me who can't follow all games can see the big picture. I was rooting for Lecaf, but it's nice to see that SKT and STX made to the playoffs. I'll miss ForU and Clon- they shone so much.

Hopefully eStro will perform better next season, and ACE will recieve boost from incoming players.

Also, zeus is mispelled in 2v2 rankings.
Stuck.
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
July 16 2008 10:07 GMT
#9
Samsung will take pl.. I totally agree with you!
..
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
July 16 2008 10:09 GMT
#10
This is definitely SKT's one to win. I hope Bisu gets his act back together and Midas keeps on winning, they'll need it.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 16 2008 11:22 GMT
#11
Yay flash will still take most wins :D
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-16 12:01:44
July 16 2008 12:01 GMT
#12
Gogo Samsung, cool to see FBH on 5th place. (no wonder how he dominates in TvT though)
PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
July 16 2008 12:36 GMT
#13
nitpicking time!

The name it's not SKT. It's either SK or SKT1.
Sad Lecaf didn´t made it
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 16 2008 13:00 GMT
#14
Samsung with the strongest lineup? What? I'd be pretty terrified to play STK1, especially as Khan. They have to deal with Best, Bisu, Midas, and probably Canata. They also have a good 2v2 to match Khan, and they probably have enough players to field a decent 2v2 (Rumble/Shudder?). That matches up pretty well with Stork, Jangbi, and Firebathero... and if it gets to ace, chances are pretty high Best will take it home.

I also get the distinct feeling that OGN is going to someone squeak by the first round again, despite the fact that they probably shouldn't. GO AWAY OGN. >.>
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
July 16 2008 13:15 GMT
#15
On July 16 2008 21:36 PePe QuiCoSE wrote:
nitpicking time!

The name it's not SKT. It's either SK or SKT1.
Sad Lecaf didn´t made it


Why would it be SK? South Korea? SKT stands for South Korea Telecom, the company that sponsors SK Telecom T1, just like MBC is the abbreviation of the company that sponsors MBCGame HERO etc. It should either be SKT or SKTT1, but everyone just uses SKT.
Moderator
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-16 14:42:21
July 16 2008 14:36 GMT
#16
On July 16 2008 22:00 zer0das wrote:
Samsung with the strongest lineup? What? I'd be pretty terrified to play STK1, especially as Khan. They have to deal with Best, Bisu, Midas, and probably Canata. They also have a good 2v2 to match Khan, and they probably have enough players to field a decent 2v2 (Rumble/Shudder?). That matches up pretty well with Stork, Jangbi, and Firebathero... and if it gets to ace, chances are pretty high Best will take it home.

I also get the distinct feeling that OGN is going to someone squeak by the first round again, despite the fact that they probably shouldn't. GO AWAY OGN. >.>


Bisu has been so incredibly hit or miss lately, though. I would not count on him atm. But I agree that Samsung might have trouble with SKT's lineup, as they have no strong vP since stork started to falter.

STX look good, though, with Hwasin good all around, and July looking like he will eat any protoss alive.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
July 16 2008 14:39 GMT
#17
nice writeup thanks a bunch
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
July 16 2008 15:15 GMT
#18
Great writeup again Daigomi.

I hate Samsung. IMO, Stork's the only hero and everyone else is a villain. Seriously, the reason they win proleague is because they have a stable of players that can only win 1 game at a time.

SKT1 Fighting~! I can't believe that Midas came back for some wins. I can't believe Canata actually got some wins. I hope for a July-BeSt rematch in the STX v. SKT1 ACE match.

STX soul - Plexa's team comes through. Kal and Hwasin came though and they actually have a playoff spot. July didn't choke either, but it's hard to micro with a golden mouse in one hand.

MBC and KTF - you really should have not lost to OGN. It's a miracle that OGN made it to playoffs at all.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 16 2008 16:01 GMT
#19
OGN will get crushed by Soul - mark my words
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
July 16 2008 16:15 GMT
#20
STX or at least SKT1 please
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Map Test Tournament
11:00
TLMC #15: Playoffs
Reynor vs CureLIVE!
ByuN vs Lambo
TBD vs Clem
WardiTV1128
IndyStarCraft 232
3DClanTV 63
LiquipediaDiscussion
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #139
CranKy Ducklings58
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 307
IndyStarCraft 232
Rex 111
ProTech85
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 49332
Shuttle 3442
Horang2 2907
Rain 1613
Hyuk 1364
Flash 1248
firebathero 347
EffOrt 342
BeSt 322
Soulkey 318
[ Show more ]
Mini 260
Hyun 184
JYJ142
Last 142
Mong 87
Noble 66
hero 65
Backho 58
Mind 55
soO 39
Killer 37
Shine 35
Movie 27
zelot 27
Free 25
sas.Sziky 22
ToSsGirL 21
Yoon 16
JulyZerg 16
Sacsri 13
HiyA 13
Hm[arnc] 12
SilentControl 10
Terrorterran 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 7
ivOry 6
Dota 2
Gorgc7081
XcaliburYe803
DeMusliM416
syndereN31
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps678
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor281
Other Games
singsing3070
B2W.Neo914
Lowko206
Fuzer 109
Mew2King45
ArmadaUGS39
MindelVK29
Organizations
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 780
Other Games
BasetradeTV79
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1891
League of Legends
• Jankos3359
Other Games
• WagamamaTV346
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 26m
[BSL 2025] Weekly
4h 26m
Safe House 2
4h 26m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
20h 26m
Map Test Tournament
21h 26m
TBD vs Spirit
TBD vs herO
OSC
22h 26m
IPSL
1d 5h
Bonyth vs Art_Of_Turtle
Razz vs rasowy
Afreeca Starleague
1d 20h
Barracks vs Snow
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Bisu
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
WardiTV TLMC #15
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.