The OGN StarChallenge seems to be confusing many people since it is a new addition to the OSL qualification process. See GTR-2-Go's Results and Standings thread for a detailed look at the tournament and an explanation of each player’s path. If you’re a “need to know” kind of person, just understand that this is as important as the 3rd/4th place OSL match, because the winner will walk away with the last free seed to the next OSL.
OGN StarChallenge Final July 23 18:30 Korean
Rock (P)
vs.
Jaedong (Z)
Maps: Game 1 @ Monty Hall Game 2 @ Hitch Hiker Game 3 @ Fantasy Game 4 @ Python Game 5 @ Monty Hall
This matchup is very interesting for one main reason. Both Rock and Jaedong have been playing incredibly well in the StarChallenge League. Rock has pummelled monsterous opponents like forGG, Flash, and FireBatHero. Jaedong has taken apart Sea, inter.mind, and Yooi. The problem...? They are all Terrans!
In fact, other than the ZvZ that Jaedong played against Luxery, Rock and Jaedong have played nothing but Terran opponents for the whole tournament and the two must now face off for the last seed, playing PvZ!
To add to this, neither player seems to have ever been any good at this matchup. Jaedong has one of the worst ZvP records of the big-name Zergs at 54%. His ability to win in this matchup has always been suspect, constantly suffering qualification round loses to Protoss players which kept him out of the OSL and MSL this past season.
Let’s not be too harsh on Jaedong though, because he looks like a virtuoso when compared to Rock who bats a dismal 37% career average PvZ. Rock hasn’t been without his moments. He has pulled impressive victories against the likes of Jy and Julyzerg in the past, but overall he is an incredible dog against just about any Zerg thrown at him.
Looking at the maps, this becomes even more confusing, because this tournament has given an incredible draw to Rock. Hitchhiker and Monty Hall (played twice) have been incredibly kind to Protoss players in this matchup. Fantasy also sports a winning PvZ record, though the sample is incredibly small, and Python is just about even over more than 20 televised games. If a top 5 Protoss were playing on this map pool against a Zerg like Jaedong, even the most thoughtful Liquibetter would not hesitate to vote P>Z.
This match will certainly be anything but predictable and we can all count on seeing the best from these 2 as they battle to avoid the snarling, merciless beast that is the Duel Tournament.
I like Rock's PvP too. He did beat charlangegeregege twice in 2 hours. So maybe his pvz has improved too. Besides, what's the big deal? Just get sairs dark storms zeals goons and maybe reavers.
54%? I say thats not bad, somewhere else it compared the 2 brothers of yellow and luxury and their percentages hovered around 50 and people were saying that was good
can someone explain to me the rock fanboyism?! i don't think he's done anything awesome, except cry after chalrenge turtled up, and then totally rip him a new asshole in the re-ace.
is there anything else? i've got to be missing something right?
His PvT has been amazing lately, he's taken down some big names with good play, timing and ballsy builds. But mostly I like him for his attitude, he seems more passionate and more focused than most of his competitors, that coupled with him being the underdog in nearly every match makes it easy to relate to him.
I cheer for Jeadong for 2 reasons: 1st- He looks like a realy kind guy and 2nd- PvZ become P>Z lately so i realy want to see some ZvP rape GO GO GO Jeadong!!!
I though the OSL 4th placer plays a match against the winner of this, to determine the fate of the auto-seed. Am I wrong then? This article states that Rock vs Jaedong's winner gets the autoseed, and the OSL's 4th placer is screwed? That sounds kinda dumb (Imho)
On July 23 2007 03:17 Naib wrote: I though the OSL 4th placer plays a match against the winner of this, to determine the fate of the auto-seed. Am I wrong then? This article states that Rock vs Jaedong's winner gets the autoseed, and the OSL's 4th placer is screwed? That sounds kinda dumb (Imho)
Flash just played Rock in the semis of the OSC and he lost.
Rock > JD @ Monty Rock > JD @ Hitch Hiker Rock < JD @ Fantasy Rock > JD @ Python
Rock 3:1 JD
All games were cheesy. Horrible bo5 IMO. First game, Rock goes for a proxy reaver and wins(I don't know exactly what happened 1st game; Sc2.org was gaying up). 2nd game, he opts for a proxy reaver again, but this time the Reaver saves his ass from hydras. JD pretty much threw the game away. He only had 1 drone at his nat. We were joking around in the sc2.org chat saying stuff like "Rofl, rock probably going to drop his nat and think "Hmm, he already moved his drones!" Wrong! :D" 3rd game, rock goes for 2gate proxy. But, JD scouts it... right before the pylon is done. But, rock still goes with it, even though JD 9pool'd. Rock cannons up his main and hopes for the best. JD goes for mutas and owns up Rocks main with impressive muta micro(like if he was playing vs a T :D). He switches to Hydras and GG for rock.
4th game was EPIC! JD looks as if he just wants to end this fast(he probably would have won vs Toss who opted for FE ;P), but Rock blocked off his ramp, going for 1gate tech. He goes for sairs. Thing is, JD goes for speedlings then pulls his drones and tries to drill them up the ramp. Rock kills the ovie in his main, so JD's drones weren't stacked and Rock had zealots and a goon there, so JD goes up with his massive ling force and tries to break the ramp. Rock pulls probes and starts owning it up, but he loses a lot of probes. His zealots kill off the drones and start picking off lings one by one. JD sees that he failed but he tries again. Since rock has corsairs out, he's out killing overlords left and right with 2 corsairs. JD tries one more time but just wastes lings trying to get up Rock's ramp. After sitting outside of rock's main for a while, he GG's.
Then, Rock's ceremony looks like he was gesturing a neck snap. :D
On July 23 2007 04:36 Scorpion wrote: Match is over Results: + Show Spoiler +
Rock > JD @ Monty Rock > JD @ Hitch Hiker Rock < JD @ Fantasy Rock > JD @ Python
Rock 3:1 JD
All games were cheesy. Horrible bo5 IMO. First game, Rock goes for a proxy reaver and wins(I don't know exactly what happened 1st game; Sc2.org was gaying up). 2nd game, he opts for a proxy reaver again, but this time the Reaver saves his ass from hydras. JD pretty much threw the game away. He only had 1 drone at his nat. We were joking around in the sc2.org chat saying stuff like "Rofl, rock probably going to drop his nat and think "Hmm, he already moved his drones!" Wrong! :D" 3rd game, rock goes for 2gate proxy. But, JD scouts it... right before the pylon is done. But, rock still goes with it, even though JD 9pool'd. Rock cannons up his main and hopes for the best. JD goes for mutas and owns up Rocks main with impressive muta micro(like if he was playing vs a T :D). He switches to Hydras and GG for rock.
4th game was EPIC! JD looks as if he just wants to end this fast(he probably would have won vs Toss who opted for FE ;P), but Rock blocked off his ramp, going for 1gate tech. He goes for sairs. Thing is, JD goes for speedlings then pulls his drones and tries to drill them up the ramp. Rock kills the ovie in his main, so JD's drones weren't stacked and Rock had zealots and a goon there, so JD goes up with his massive ling force and tries to break the ramp. Rock pulls probes and starts owning it up, but he loses a lot of probes. His zealots kill off the drones and start picking off lings one by one. JD sees that he failed but he tries again. Since rock has corsairs out, he's out killing overlords left and right with 2 corsairs. JD tries one more time but just wastes lings trying to get up Rock's ramp. After sitting outside of rock's main for a while, he GG's.
Then, Rock's ceremony looks like he was gesturing a neck snap. :D
On July 23 2007 04:36 Scorpion wrote: Match is over Results: + Show Spoiler +
Rock > JD @ Monty Rock > JD @ Hitch Hiker Rock < JD @ Fantasy Rock > JD @ Python
Rock 3:1 JD
All games were cheesy. Horrible bo5 IMO. First game, Rock goes for a proxy reaver and wins(I don't know exactly what happened 1st game; Sc2.org was gaying up). 2nd game, he opts for a proxy reaver again, but this time the Reaver saves his ass from hydras. JD pretty much threw the game away. He only had 1 drone at his nat. We were joking around in the sc2.org chat saying stuff like "Rofl, rock probably going to drop his nat and think "Hmm, he already moved his drones!" Wrong! :D" 3rd game, rock goes for 2gate proxy. But, JD scouts it... right before the pylon is done. But, rock still goes with it, even though JD 9pool'd. Rock cannons up his main and hopes for the best. JD goes for mutas and owns up Rocks main with impressive muta micro(like if he was playing vs a T :D). He switches to Hydras and GG for rock.
4th game was EPIC! JD looks as if he just wants to end this fast(he probably would have won vs Toss who opted for FE ;P), but Rock blocked off his ramp, going for 1gate tech. He goes for sairs. Thing is, JD goes for speedlings then pulls his drones and tries to drill them up the ramp. Rock kills the ovie in his main, so JD's drones weren't stacked and Rock had zealots and a goon there, so JD goes up with his massive ling force and tries to break the ramp. Rock pulls probes and starts owning it up, but he loses a lot of probes. His zealots kill off the drones and start picking off lings one by one. JD sees that he failed but he tries again. Since rock has corsairs out, he's out killing overlords left and right with 2 corsairs. JD tries one more time but just wastes lings trying to get up Rock's ramp. After sitting outside of rock's main for a while, he GG's.
Then, Rock's ceremony looks like he was gesturing a neck snap. :D
GG!! bo5 was so cheesy, I got constipated.
nice analysis for people like me who don't feel like watching =]
On July 23 2007 04:36 Scorpion wrote: Match is over Results: + Show Spoiler +
Rock > JD @ Monty Rock > JD @ Hitch Hiker Rock < JD @ Fantasy Rock > JD @ Python
Rock 3:1 JD
All games were cheesy. Horrible bo5 IMO. First game, Rock goes for a proxy reaver and wins(I don't know exactly what happened 1st game; Sc2.org was gaying up). 2nd game, he opts for a proxy reaver again, but this time the Reaver saves his ass from hydras. JD pretty much threw the game away. He only had 1 drone at his nat. We were joking around in the sc2.org chat saying stuff like "Rofl, rock probably going to drop his nat and think "Hmm, he already moved his drones!" Wrong! :D" 3rd game, rock goes for 2gate proxy. But, JD scouts it... right before the pylon is done. But, rock still goes with it, even though JD 9pool'd. Rock cannons up his main and hopes for the best. JD goes for mutas and owns up Rocks main with impressive muta micro(like if he was playing vs a T :D). He switches to Hydras and GG for rock.
4th game was EPIC! JD looks as if he just wants to end this fast(he probably would have won vs Toss who opted for FE ;P), but Rock blocked off his ramp, going for 1gate tech. He goes for sairs. Thing is, JD goes for speedlings then pulls his drones and tries to drill them up the ramp. Rock kills the ovie in his main, so JD's drones weren't stacked and Rock had zealots and a goon there, so JD goes up with his massive ling force and tries to break the ramp. Rock pulls probes and starts owning it up, but he loses a lot of probes. His zealots kill off the drones and start picking off lings one by one. JD sees that he failed but he tries again. Since rock has corsairs out, he's out killing overlords left and right with 2 corsairs. JD tries one more time but just wastes lings trying to get up Rock's ramp. After sitting outside of rock's main for a while, he GG's.
Then, Rock's ceremony looks like he was gesturing a neck snap. :D
GG!! bo5 was so cheesy, I got constipated.
nice analysis for people like me who don't feel like watching =]
On July 23 2007 03:17 Naib wrote: I though the OSL 4th placer plays a match against the winner of this, to determine the fate of the auto-seed. Am I wrong then? This article states that Rock vs Jaedong's winner gets the autoseed, and the OSL's 4th placer is screwed? That sounds kinda dumb (Imho)
Flash just played Rock in the semis of the OSC and he lost.
Yes.
Read GTR's thread that I linked in the beginning of the post.
On July 23 2007 04:36 Scorpion wrote: Match is over Results: + Show Spoiler +
Rock > JD @ Monty Rock > JD @ Hitch Hiker Rock < JD @ Fantasy Rock > JD @ Python
Rock 3:1 JD
All games were cheesy. Horrible bo5 IMO. First game, Rock goes for a proxy reaver and wins(I don't know exactly what happened 1st game; Sc2.org was gaying up). 2nd game, he opts for a proxy reaver again, but this time the Reaver saves his ass from hydras. JD pretty much threw the game away. He only had 1 drone at his nat. We were joking around in the sc2.org chat saying stuff like "Rofl, rock probably going to drop his nat and think "Hmm, he already moved his drones!" Wrong! :D" 3rd game, rock goes for 2gate proxy. But, JD scouts it... right before the pylon is done. But, rock still goes with it, even though JD 9pool'd. Rock cannons up his main and hopes for the best. JD goes for mutas and owns up Rocks main with impressive muta micro(like if he was playing vs a T :D). He switches to Hydras and GG for rock.
4th game was EPIC! JD looks as if he just wants to end this fast(he probably would have won vs Toss who opted for FE ;P), but Rock blocked off his ramp, going for 1gate tech. He goes for sairs. Thing is, JD goes for speedlings then pulls his drones and tries to drill them up the ramp. Rock kills the ovie in his main, so JD's drones weren't stacked and Rock had zealots and a goon there, so JD goes up with his massive ling force and tries to break the ramp. Rock pulls probes and starts owning it up, but he loses a lot of probes. His zealots kill off the drones and start picking off lings one by one. JD sees that he failed but he tries again. Since rock has corsairs out, he's out killing overlords left and right with 2 corsairs. JD tries one more time but just wastes lings trying to get up Rock's ramp. After sitting outside of rock's main for a while, he GG's.
Then, Rock's ceremony looks like he was gesturing a neck snap. :D
In the last game, his drones WERE stacked, ovie lived long enough to spot minerals for 'em... regardless that was a TENSE 30 second battle where you didn't know what was gonna happen on Rock's ramp, but alas, not enough lings.
On July 23 2007 04:36 Scorpion wrote: Match is over Results: + Show Spoiler +
Rock > JD @ Monty Rock > JD @ Hitch Hiker Rock < JD @ Fantasy Rock > JD @ Python
Rock 3:1 JD
All games were cheesy. Horrible bo5 IMO. First game, Rock goes for a proxy reaver and wins(I don't know exactly what happened 1st game; Sc2.org was gaying up). 2nd game, he opts for a proxy reaver again, but this time the Reaver saves his ass from hydras. JD pretty much threw the game away. He only had 1 drone at his nat. We were joking around in the sc2.org chat saying stuff like "Rofl, rock probably going to drop his nat and think "Hmm, he already moved his drones!" Wrong! :D" 3rd game, rock goes for 2gate proxy. But, JD scouts it... right before the pylon is done. But, rock still goes with it, even though JD 9pool'd. Rock cannons up his main and hopes for the best. JD goes for mutas and owns up Rocks main with impressive muta micro(like if he was playing vs a T :D). He switches to Hydras and GG for rock.
4th game was EPIC! JD looks as if he just wants to end this fast(he probably would have won vs Toss who opted for FE ;P), but Rock blocked off his ramp, going for 1gate tech. He goes for sairs. Thing is, JD goes for speedlings then pulls his drones and tries to drill them up the ramp. Rock kills the ovie in his main, so JD's drones weren't stacked and Rock had zealots and a goon there, so JD goes up with his massive ling force and tries to break the ramp. Rock pulls probes and starts owning it up, but he loses a lot of probes. His zealots kill off the drones and start picking off lings one by one. JD sees that he failed but he tries again. Since rock has corsairs out, he's out killing overlords left and right with 2 corsairs. JD tries one more time but just wastes lings trying to get up Rock's ramp. After sitting outside of rock's main for a while, he GG's.
Then, Rock's ceremony looks like he was gesturing a neck snap. :D
In the last game, his drones WERE stacked, ovie lived long enough to spot minerals for 'em... regardless that was a TENSE 30 second battle where you didn't know what was gonna happen on Rock's ramp, but alas, not enough lings.
On July 23 2007 03:17 Naib wrote: I though the OSL 4th placer plays a match against the winner of this, to determine the fate of the auto-seed. Am I wrong then? This article states that Rock vs Jaedong's winner gets the autoseed, and the OSL's 4th placer is screwed? That sounds kinda dumb (Imho)
Flash just played Rock in the semis of the OSC and he lost.
EPT
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GO GO GO Jeadong!!! 
