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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 18 2007 23:07 GMT
#41
On January 19 2007 02:04 jkillashark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2007 21:52 Manifesto7 wrote:
FINALLY. FORTY FIVE OF THE LONGEST DAYS OF MY LIFE!

As for the HW threads, skyglow is absolutely right. It is an excuse to act immature and foolish, because that never happens anywhere else on this board.


/me nods head vehemently in agreement.


Holy crap you used the word "vehemently" now I love you more.
Figurehead
Profile Joined August 2006
Poland31 Posts
January 19 2007 00:27 GMT
#42
On January 19 2007 01:49 InsanitY wrote:
i love the comment on the savior-card "only a zerg, only a zerg" ^^v


"When I logged in and witnessed the word 'Ma-Jae-Yoon', I felt as if Mount Everest was erected in front of me." Child
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
January 19 2007 00:31 GMT
#43
I am for the banninator award
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
January 19 2007 01:39 GMT
#44
love the progamer cards... =)
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
January 19 2007 04:12 GMT
#45
Good job on the new Liquiscoop, but again, there's this problem: Praising the anti-HW movement and at the same time asking those questions in the poll. Not only are they biased, they're more like "Heeeey peopleee! How do you like our crusade so far!!! Can I hear a hell yeah!!! Heaaaall yeah sheeple!!". Where's that an honest question? Winding up the crowd and then asking if u're doing a good job? I'm confused.

I don't even understand it anymore. Not a tiniest bit. Do you guys just need threads as an excuse to spam and act immature? Maybe we should make a subforum for that then?

Nyovne too, why?

-Mynock
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
January 19 2007 05:12 GMT
#46
im not sure i understand you mynock, where do we praise the anti-HW movement?

the "triumphs" part, all six links are clearly not the good kind of HW thread, none i list are the "borderline" cases that are being contested so hotly

i certainly didn't mean to create the poll as a way to "pump up" the pro crusade crowd, i was legitimately being honest in asking for a response, and if enough people said no (doesn't have to be a majority) i would call for an end to it.

i don't think it comes off the way you say it does, i think you and skyglow are as biased against the crusade as some people are for it.
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Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
January 19 2007 05:12 GMT
#47
Welcome back.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-19 05:15:15
January 19 2007 05:13 GMT
#48
also, while some people use the crusade as a way to act immature and flame, i would be 100% behind faster moderator involvement regarding closing HW threads. the only reason the crusade was started was because mods couldn't close fast enough, not because i want to post random shit in a topic.

lastly how are the questions biased? please give me examples of "unbiased" questions?
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-19 05:58:40
January 19 2007 05:35 GMT
#49
NICE.
[02:06] [dronebabo] how old are you
[02:06] [i845] 13
[02:06] [dronebabo] are you interested in girls yet
[02:06] [dronebabo] i got porn

HELL NO
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
January 19 2007 05:37 GMT
#50
Unbiased would be adding options like "No, not even the bad ones" or "No. Never!" in synch with "Yes. Always!", and how about giving two ''No" options since there are two for "Yes", etc... I think u know what I mean.

And yes I'm irritated by this movement because it's everywhere. It's not confined to special threads that I can choose to ignore, but permeates the whole forum. And ruins certain threads I'd like to read. It's not isolated, it's an attitude. That makes it a whole notch worse than a couple threads you can easily ignore if you're not interested. I never see you posting in any political threads, yet I don't see you complaining either.

Admit that you're having major fun with this whole crusade idea, and won't let easily go of it.

And finally, how about we just treat those thread like any others, and close them if they suck, leave them to their fate if they don't? Why this distinction in the first place? It's all utterly unnecessary, let alone now that we see the negative effects of the other side of it as well.

-Mynock
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-19 05:40:41
January 19 2007 05:40 GMT
#51
On January 19 2007 14:13 Hot_Bid wrote:
also, while some people use the crusade as a way to act immature and flame, i would be 100% behind faster moderator involvement regarding closing HW threads. the only reason the crusade was started was because mods couldn't close fast enough, not because i want to post random shit in a topic.

lastly how are the questions biased? please give me examples of "unbiased" questions?


"would be 100% behind faster moderator involvement regarding closing HW threads."

Yeah exactly. Not behind the closing of stupid threads. Behind the closing of HW threads. Regardless.

We're perfectly clear on your point.

-Mynock
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-19 05:48:38
January 19 2007 05:48 GMT
#52
obviously i mean closing of bad hw threads, i even made it clear in previous scoops that the legit ones are fine. when did i ever say we should close all of them?

also, about the alleged "bias" of the poll, two "yes" options imo are better for your argument than mine. the two "yes" options were for "should HW threads exist"?

so i don't understand, if anything two "yes" options to "should HW threads exist" is biased FOR the existence of HW threads...

and i already stated, if mods close the threads faster, there's no reason for the crusade to exist. i don't know where you got the "won't easily let go of it" because i haven't even posted flames or spam in the last like 5 crusades (some of which were incorrectly targeting legit HW threads).
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-19 05:58:35
January 19 2007 05:55 GMT
#53
its funny how you completely misinterpret my feelings on this subject, i really do listen to the feedback and while i disagree with you on some points, i believe that it has gotten out of hand and needs to stop. you weren't on MSN when i'm telling babo or wow that "no, this isn't a bad help thread, no, that isn't a bad HW thread."

the poll results show that there is a significant portion of the population that doesn't like the crusade, (something like 36% "negative" and 10% "neutral") so in the next scoop i was planning to call off the whole thing.

i just don't like how you make all these assumptions about my motivations and such when all i'm trying to do with CleaR, LiquiScoop, etc, is to improve the General Forum through effort in posting. it's kind of frustrating when all you do is make sarcastic comments and personal attacks when we're all on the same side here.

i think its good that we care and that we try. i will, as i planned, call it off in the next scoop. sometimes ideas with good intentions run away and don't work out the way you planned them, but that's no reason to assume things about me personally.

when the crusade is called off in the next LS, i urge faster mod closing of bad hw threads. "bad" as in very clear that its last minute lazy answer begging.

i am disappointed that you went to the personal attacks/assumptions immediately about this, and that your tone is really condescending.
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Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-19 06:34:01
January 19 2007 06:30 GMT
#54
You're right, I'm sorry.

I didn't mean to sound that way, but again I did. I was merely feeling that way because just a couple days ago you wanted closing rights exclusively for HW threads, and then this current issue of LS also featured "triumphs" etc.

And yes, the whole "crusade" thing also ticked me off. And since other staff (Mani, ETT, JKS, others...) also expressed their concerns about it I felt you were being thickheaded. Hence the assumptions.

But I never actually meant to assume that you were purely doing it for your personal enjoyment and not with good intentions for the side.

Sry again

PS.: Good job calling it off after all. Let the mods do their jobs.

PPS: Surprised no one mentioned it yet, but that Garimto pic startled the shit outta me.

-Mynock
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
January 19 2007 07:16 GMT
#55
no problem mynock, i never had a problem with you in the past, just a case of misunderstanding.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
January 19 2007 07:58 GMT
#56
On January 19 2007 16:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
no problem mynock, i never had a problem with you in the past, just a case of misunderstanding.

Does this mean there isn't going to be a Mynock/Hot_Bid steel cage deathmatch?
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
January 19 2007 09:46 GMT
#57
It seems that the "flamers" in homework threads usually do not even bother to read the op post when seeing a homework help request, further aggravating the problem.

At least read the content of the post and think twice what you're posting before you do so... all too often I see a borderline op post get the full treatment --;;

By the way I believe this motion to stop bad homework threads has helped though, since if you look back to before all of this started, and compare it to the situation now, you would see that statistically there are less homework threads, and the ones that do pop up are generally of much higher quality. Before, I dont think there were even very many "borderline" op posts. There were very good posts, ones which I had absolutely no clue how to answer (WiP and a one or more posters come to mind. shit your math is way beyond me --;, then there were the absolutely terrible posts. Now there are fewer terrible threads (although there are still a few from time to time), and maybe those really bad threads have moved toward the "borderline" class?

In any case if everyone keeps Mani's mantra of "Making a thread should be an effort by the poster", then I am sure things would be much cleaner.

I asked for some help / suggestions about PP and my broodwar situation, and I tried hard to make it worth while to readers and explain the situation throuroughly. I hope I did at least a decent job at that. A lot of my posts are shitty, but I hope most of the threads I start are at least of acceptable quality. Thanks for reading, I guess :O
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
January 19 2007 10:18 GMT
#58
It's been a very long time but good job.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
January 19 2007 16:14 GMT
#59
I should purposely make a "HW" thread on a genuine question, puts lots of effort into it, but place everything into a spoiler and attempt to make the non-spoiler material look messy, lacking in effort and retarded.

The sad thing is that there will still be many who spam without first noticing I put effort in the post, just that its in a spoiler. In fact, I think I am going to do it and see how it works out before the crusade is called off in the next LS. I've been studying alot and some stuff I don't understand too T_T
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
January 19 2007 22:25 GMT
#60
On January 20 2007 01:14 skyglow1 wrote:
I should purposely make a "HW" thread on a genuine question, puts lots of effort into it, but place everything into a spoiler and attempt to make the non-spoiler material look messy, lacking in effort and retarded.

The sad thing is that there will still be many who spam without first noticing I put effort in the post, just that its in a spoiler. In fact, I think I am going to do it and see how it works out before the crusade is called off in the next LS. I've been studying alot and some stuff I don't understand too T_T

this is a stupid idea and i don't understand how this would prove anything
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