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WCS EU - Ro16 Group B Preview/A Recap (Season 2)

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WCS EU - Ro16 Group B Preview/A Recap (Season 2)

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byshiroiusagi
August 6th, 2013 09:02 GMT
2013 WCS Europe

WCS Europe Season 2 - Premier League



Ro16: Group A Recap
HasuObs and Grubby advance

Ro16: Group B Preview
Stephano, Duckdeok, Welmu, Lucifron

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

VODs on Youtube

Ro16 Group A Recap

Europe Holds: Mvp eliminated as HasuObs and Grubby advance

by stuchiu

Detailed results from Live Report Thread by Yello
+ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +

Mvp vs. Ret
(T)Mvp <Star Station> (Z)Ret
(T)Mvp <Newkirk Precinct> (Z)Ret
(T)Mvp <> (Z)Ret

Mvp wins 2-0!

HasuObs vs. Grubby
(P)HasuObs <Whirlwind> (P)Grubby
(P)HasuObs <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Grubby
(P)HasuObs <Red City> (P)Grubby

HasuObs wins 2-1!

Winners' Match
(T)Mvp <Derelict Watcher> (P)HasuObs
(T)Mvp <Star Station> (P)HasuObs
(T)Mvp <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)HasuObs

HasuObs wins 2-1!

Losers' Match
(Z)Ret <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Grubby
(Z)Ret <Newkirk Precinct> (P)Grubby
(Z)Ret <Neo Planet S> (P)Grubby

Grubby wins 2-1!

Final Match
(T)Mvp <Newkirk Precinct> (P)Grubby
(T)Mvp <Neo Planet S> (P)Grubby
(T)Mvp <Whirlwind> (P)Grubby

Grubby wins 2-1!



HasuObs and Grubby advance to WCS EU Premier RO16!


Going into this group, most people were pegging the reigning European champion (T)LG-IM_Mvp as the sure bet to make it out of the group whether it be in 1st or 2nd place. And while Mvp played well in all of his games, he could not overcome the resolve of the Europeans. (P)mouz.HasuObs and (P)Grubby handed Mvp a pair of stunning defeats, eliminating the legendary Korean pro and earning spots in the Ro8.

(P)HasuObs' performance on the night was particularly dominating, following up some spectacular online performances in July with a great live performance in ESL's Cologne studio as he took out both Grubby and Mvp to advance in first place.

HasuObs takes first place

Hasuobs' first series saw him live up to his reputation as a late game player, playing marathon games against his opponent Grubby. The first game took over an hour of game time to complete, but did not lack for action the entire way. HasuObs looked to be able to end it in the early mid-game after he cornered and massacred Grubby's army after a key mothership core snipe, but a unit grouping mistake saw his counter-attack fall apart and allow Grubby back into the game.

Both players took the time to expand across their sides of the map and try to assemble their ultimate armies. Grubby had a flair for the dramatic, transitioning into carriers out of tempests, while HasuObs opted for a stalker-immortal-archon force in response. The players fought all across the vast expanses of Whirlwind as they took alternating swipes at each others' armies and bases. In the end, Grubby was able to edge out an advantage with his commit to harassment, using his economic advantage to put together a deadly counter-composition that forced HasuObs to surrender.

Not to be outdone, HasuObs returned the favor in game two by defeating Grubby in another drawn out game. After a rare late-game base trade, Tempests proved to be the key to HasuObs' victory, allowing him to dictate the engagements and control space as both players recovered. HasuObs safely secured new expansions while being able to punish Grubby for his own attempts. Grubby went for one last attack, GG'ing out after his force fell apart against HasuObs' solid defenses.

Deciding not to torture the ESL production crew by sending them back home at 2AM, HasuObs finished Grubby off in game three in a much faster game. Fortune favored the German as he was able to do early damage with an early 2 stalker MSC move out and kill a good amount of probes. After deflecting the proxy-oracle harass that followed, HasuObs was firmly in the driver's seat. Grubby went for a desperation base trade, but had to GG out when HasuObs recalled back to defend after leveling his base.

The winner's match saw German’s natural born son HasuObs take on the adopted hero (T)Mvp. HasuObs took a surprisingly easy lead in the first game, as he defended handily against Mvp's poorly microed widow mine-reaper harass. HasuObs only needed to safely build up on his lead to in order to secure his victory.

The second game saw the roles reversed as Mvp easily held against HasuObs' aggression to recover a point. HasuObs went for a peculiar forge and 5 gate build off two bases, but botched his execution by allowing a clearly scouted hellion runby to take the wind out of his sails. HasuObs had no choice but to go through with his gateway attack, but it fell miserably short of success.

The final game was the longest and most dramatic of the series as Hasuobs went for a peculiar phoenix-chargelot-templar strategy off of two bases. Although HasuObs wasn't able to attain his intended goal of busting Mvp right away, he managed to kill off Mvp's third base while transitioning into double-robo colossi. This proved to be the game winning move for HasuObs as Mvp simply wasn't ready to deal with colossi when the two players clashed again. Storms and lasers ripped apart Mvp's army in the final engagement of the game, forcing the GG that sent HasuObs through in first place.

Grubby comes from behind

(P)Grubby's path was much more perilous as he would have to go through two very tough matches against both (Z)Liquid`Ret and Mvp after losing his initial series against HasuObs.

The losers' match against Ret started off badly, as he dropped the first game with an overaggressive gateway attack that was easily stuffed. Game two saw Grubby get off to a much better start, as his early phoenixes did massive damage. Ret tried to recover, but had to tap out to the colossi-stalker army that followed. Grubby then earned a final match against Mvp by defeating Ret on Neo Planet S, using strong gateway harassment to take an early lead and wrapping it up with stalkers and colossi late.

Group A would come down to Grubby vs. Mvp in the end. Once more, Grubby started the series off badly as he lost a deflating first game to a large hellion marine attack that he didn't see coming. Unfazed, Grubby hit back in game two with oracles, using them to abuse Mvp’s proclivity to move out early with his marines and kill a massive amount of SCVs.

The last game of the night saw Mvp go for early aggression once again. This time, Grubby shut the attack down with a cannon and immortal, and from there he was able to pressure Mvp with an immortal sentry force while harassing Mvp’s main with a warp prism. Grubby pulled further ahead by executing a vicious backstab when Mvp tried to move out, causing havoc in Mvp's base before recalling back with his MSC. From there, Mvp was too behind to play a normal game and opted for an SCV pull all-in. However, he could make not pierce Grubby's unwavering defenses, and had no choice but to end his European campaign early.


Quick Takes

(Z)Liquid`Ret: Emotional moments go both ways. While Grubby was elated to win such a famous victory against Mvp, Ret was crushed after failing to make it to the Ro8.

(T)LG-IM_Mvp: While Mvp was eliminated surprisingly early, it wasn't that surprising considering he had always had trouble in the group stages, even in Korea.

(P)HasuObs: As if winning in spectacular fashion over both Grubby and Mvp wasn't enough, HasuObs was also able to catch a fly that was annoying both him and Grubby with his bare hands, without even killing it. For this act we dub him St. HasuObs the merciful, patron saint of turtles.


Group B: Stephano, Duckdeok, Welmu, Lucifron

by Waxangel

Is this it? Could we really see (Z)Stephano's final matches as a professional gamer come Tuesday night?

At least his tweets and interviews seem to point in that direction. One final run in WCS Europe, and then it's on to retired life as a university student with an embarrassingly big bank account.

That's a major event, considering that Stephano is the best foreigner ever, one of the best players to play the game, and the one who had the biggest individual influence on how the Zerg race is played. Yet, we're really not making that big a deal out of it.

Maybe it's because we don't really believe him. The World Finals at Blizzcon offers a shot at $100,000 to the winner, and that's enough to bring anyone out of retirement into semi-retirement. Stephano has delayed his retirement in the past, having talked about retirement since 2011 but continuing to ride his talent and success well into 2013.

I'll fade into darkness. But I shall be remembered. I'm very lyrical today. It came in a casual talk with my BFF (Sorry Coco)

— EGStephano (@EGStephanoRC) August 1, 2013


As for Stephano himself, he doesn't seem to be treating these matches with any more weight than he normally does. That's fitting for a player who always seemed to take pro-gaming more casually than the rest, and had an uncanny knack for achieving great results without the most practice.

I think I do know why we're not making a big deal out of this. It's because we don't believe that this is the end. We don't believe that Stephano would somehow drop out ignominiously in the Ro16 of a European tournament, in a no-Zerg group at that. Not before he gives us a grand finale, one last hurrah. We believe he will 'go out on top' - the ultimate conceit a fan can have.

Maybe it's just a dream, a fantasy. But isn't that what Stephano's career was all about? Making foreign dreams come true.


(P)MVP.duckdeok comes into the group looking to repair his somewhat maligned reputation. Playing from Korea to Europe in the Ro32, he was forced to resort to cheesy tactics to earn his ticket to the Ro16. Or maybe he just really likes to all-in people! We'll learn the truth soon enough as he'll soon get a chance to play in a lag-free environment.

Duckdeok isn't a particularly well-known Korean but he is a very competent one. Expect him to bring the usual Korean Protoss package, with a good mixture of devious all-ins, infuriating turtle play, and way better sense for engagements than most foreigners.

(P)NrS.Welmu: Welmu enters the Ro16 as the best player from Finland (except Elfi; no one is better than Elfi), looking to do his country proud in Europe's biggest competition. Once a regular fixture in the lower group stages of European tournaments, Welmu's steady improvement in 2013 makes it no surprise that he's one step away from earning a spot at the regional finals.

Although Welmu's online play has been quite strong (defeating BabyKnight and Ret in the Ro32 of this tournament), he's been struggling to get a noteworthy result in a live setting. He did have a decent showing last weekend at ASUS ROG where he nearly defeated Hyun and reached the Ro16, so perhaps there's reason to be optimistic about his chances here as well.

(T)mouz.LucifroN: I have no shame about being a bandwagon hopper, and I'm ready to ditch Lucifron for Happy depending on what happens this week. While players like Lucifron and Dayshi got all of the hype coming into HotS about being the hope for European Terran, it's actually been Happy who has been beating Koreans at live events (with recent wins over San and MC at ASUS ROG). Lucifron also happened to lose to an American in Goswser back at ASUS ROG, further derailing the hype train.

So the story here for Lucifron is the same old stuff: Massively hyped, definitely very talented, but still looking for the big result to bring it all together. While I still maintain that his great multi-tasking and variety of builds makes him the closest thing Europe has to the Korea Terran Robots, but it's getting awfully painful waiting for the results to come in. Well, here's to hoping again!


Prediction
Duckdeok > Stephano
Lucifron > Welmu
Duckdeok > Lucifron
Stephano > Welmu
Stephano > Lucifron

Duckdeok and Stephano advance

More WCS Europe Season 2 Coverage

Aug 9 – Welmu and Duckdeok advance to Ro8 as Stephano plays his retirement matches.
Aug 8 – HasuObs and Grubby shock Mvp in Round of eight opener group.
July 18 – Russian duo of TitaN and Happy round out Ro16 by earning final two spots
July 17 – Terrans ForGG and Bunny eliminated as VortiX and Grubby move on
July 11 – NaNiwa and Lucifron top group F, Bly and uzer fall to Challenger
July 10 – Welmu takes first place in group E, upsetting Ret, BabyKnight, and ThorZaIN


Writers: stuchiu and Waxangel
Graphics: shiroiusagi
Banner photo: ESL
Editor: Waxangel.
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AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
August 06 2013 09:12 GMT
#2
if Luci fails tonight I will crush my monitor..
i balance whine all the time.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
August 06 2013 09:18 GMT
#3
Grubby <3
It's good to be back
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 09:19:56
August 06 2013 09:19 GMT
#4
Thanks for the preview/recap.
Awesome to see Grubby move through, sour about Mvp not advancing
Moderatorlickypiddy
pretender58
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany713 Posts
August 06 2013 09:19 GMT
#5
Was quite surprised by Mvp´s shaky performance yesterday, especially against protoss.

Yes, Lucifron may be hyped, but I still think he can make it out of his group, alongside duckdeok or Stephano.
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
August 06 2013 09:20 GMT
#6
hooray for Agent 00Schneider!
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
anatase
Profile Joined May 2010
France532 Posts
August 06 2013 09:20 GMT
#7
I hope Stephano will have a great last stand and shine one last time.
GL to everyone
GG to Grubby and Hasuobs!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 06 2013 09:26 GMT
#8
Hm stephano is already at the studio, arrived when it was still closed, I think he means business and will win this season.

EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC 11m

@ApolloSC2 hey, I'm at the front door and its closed. Can't get in all I want is practice.


Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ShootingQuasar
Profile Joined July 2013
United Kingdom44 Posts
August 06 2013 09:28 GMT
#9
good stuff grubby hoping for a grubby vs stephano final :D
No need Build Orders, Only Micro
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 09:30:01
August 06 2013 09:29 GMT
#10
1Stephano
2Lucifron
3Duckdeok
4Welmu

.. this is what i hope for.. WCS is just not the same without stephano and luci in top 8... even if ASUS and DH Valencia was bad for Lucifron/Stephano.. they are still in the top5 best europeans atm.

[edit]
also this:
On August 06 2013 18:26 Musicus wrote:
Hm stephano is already at the studio, arrived when it was still closed, I think he means business and will win this season.

Show nested quote +
EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC 11m

@ApolloSC2 hey, I'm at the front door and its closed. Can't get in all I want is practice.



=))) awesome
Maru | Life | herO
Echo Six
Profile Joined April 2013
United States30 Posts
August 06 2013 09:35 GMT
#11
That video of Grubby gives me chills. So happy for him. Now it is time for Stephano to take group B!
KingMel
Profile Joined July 2012
France120 Posts
August 06 2013 09:38 GMT
#12
Seriously, has the guy who makes predictions ever watched some Starcraft 2 ?...
GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
August 06 2013 09:39 GMT
#13
On August 06 2013 18:29 jarod wrote:
WCS is just not the same without stephano and luci in top 8...


I agree. Having Stephano and Luci along with Grubby in the next round would just be amazing. I'd love for Stephano to take this season, and the more top tier Europeans who make it along the way, the better.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 06 2013 09:53 GMT
#14
On August 06 2013 18:38 KingMel wrote:
Seriously, has the guy who makes predictions ever watched some Starcraft 2 ?...


Wait, it took you this long to figure out that we don't actually watch Starcraft? :o
AdministratorBreak the chains
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7106 Posts
August 06 2013 09:54 GMT
#15
Welmu is going to wiin this group. Calling it now.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
August 06 2013 10:02 GMT
#16
First time saw a progamer crying after winning a R16 match.
MvP is probably thinking, damn these Europeans are emotional... Interview feels like as if Grubby won WCS Europe.

Congrats to Grubby! Hope he continues to make it to the finals!
holmesgenius
Profile Joined February 2013
Vietnam65 Posts
August 06 2013 10:12 GMT
#17
T_T. MVP is one of best fighters of Euro for WCS. MVP never good at BO3. Who can defeat Korean ???
Stephano is our only hope right now. May be he can do his wish when MVP is out of WCS. Even that, Grazt HSOP and Grubby.
Terran imbalance ---- Zerg wins ---- Protoss advances
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 06 2013 10:17 GMT
#18
i'm on vacation and it's fucking awesome here, but reading that recap really makes me wanna watch the vods. holy shit Hasu, how did that happen. too bad about Mvp, but Grubby fuck yeah!!!!

i guess i'll watch them next week when i'm back home and don't know what to do with all my free time
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
PerryHooter
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden268 Posts
August 06 2013 10:22 GMT
#19
1. Welmu
2. Lucifron
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt"
Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
August 06 2013 10:24 GMT
#20
On August 06 2013 18:38 KingMel wrote:
Seriously, has the guy who makes predictions ever watched some Starcraft 2 ?...

Don't underestimate Duckdeok, he beat TLO in his last group. And if you remember Lucifron lost to TLO last season, so if he can beat people like TLO, beating Lucifron won't be the hardest thing. Though I don't think he can win Stephano, the style of Stephano is just too hard for protoss to beat.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
August 06 2013 10:28 GMT
#21
Best of all worlds would be luci and stephano, but P is on the rise and I think they'll slay more souls tonight.
Turboteckel
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands37 Posts
August 06 2013 10:45 GMT
#22
Agreed. I think it will be Elfi and Duckdeok tonight as well.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
August 06 2013 10:51 GMT
#23
As long as Duckdeok is defeated I am happy.

The combination of the most cheesiest play in SC2 combined with the most retarded nick in SC2 history is just more than I can handle.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 06 2013 11:02 GMT
#24
Gowser is no longer an american but european instead, sorry there guys. But if we look at what happend with SeleCT, ViOlet and currently Polt (just to name a few) wich trained in NA then got "claimed and addopted" by NA fans, it is rather simple conclusion Gowser now belongs to the european continent and may now call himself a "frenchy".

Cause and Effect can be a b!tch
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
August 06 2013 11:23 GMT
#25
What castle is that?
Are you human?
monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
August 06 2013 11:25 GMT
#26
Jürgen
Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
August 06 2013 11:36 GMT
#27
On August 06 2013 19:51 4ZakeN87 wrote:
As long as Duckdeok is defeated I am happy.

The combination of the most cheesiest play in SC2 combined with the most retarded nick in SC2 history is just more than I can handle.

I find it on the contrary very exiting. I always liked cheesy play. After all, risky play can never be boring, while standard macro play can be. It's always more fun like that. I hope he goes through his group.
Fleshcut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany592 Posts
August 06 2013 11:36 GMT
#28
I really wanna see Stephano take the 100,000 at the end, so please don't disappoint and win! :O Lucifron should also advance since he kinda underperformed until now.
sPSalai
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden16 Posts
August 06 2013 11:50 GMT
#29
I cant see stephano make it, I think the rest of the 3 will take care of the 2 spots, either of the 3, welmu, lucifron or duckdeok can make it, Stephano is just a joke, I wins by not caring, by not being stressed out because he doesnt care...he isnt even good at laddering, just doing good in live events because he hates the game he plays and couldnt care less. So my prediction is more a hope I have...I really HOPE stephano gets out tonight, he is a joke to the sport, and one of the most disgusting players out there. Talking about retire all the time makes SC2 look bad. And him being the biggest jerk ever when casting games...no I just hope, PLEASE stephano, get out tonight, and f**king retire, I cant stand you.
Salai Broodwar pro
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
August 06 2013 12:09 GMT
#30
Duckdeoks cheesy play won't work against players like Stephano and Lucifron who both have pretty good scouting and reacting. Totally disagree on his 1st place here. He barely advanced against Dimaga and Dayshi with an overall 4-4 map score.

Prediction

Duckdeok < Stephano
Lucifron > Welmu
Stephano < Lucifron
Duckdeok < Welmu
Stephano > Welmu
zmsFlood
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland169 Posts
August 06 2013 12:15 GMT
#31
I actually cried a bit... At work... Thank god noone saw :D

F**K YES GRUBBY YOU ARE MY MOTHERF**KING HEROOOOOO
twitter.com/laurifalck | I don't want to get you drunk, but, ah, that's a very fine Chardonnay you're not drinking. | TLO!
Achaia
Profile Joined July 2010
United States643 Posts
August 06 2013 12:27 GMT
#32
Here's to hoping Stephano makes it through, not only for Zerg hope, but for foreigner hope! Yesterday's matches were intense, can't wait to see tonight's matches.
http://www.youtube.com/SCBattleGrounds
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
August 06 2013 12:28 GMT
#33
Grubby had me choking up in his interview.
But with the death of King Jurgen there's one less obstacle to a nani-stephano finals.
Also is it wrong that I expected the link about "retired life" to link to that twitter picture of all the alcohol Stephano posted a few days ago?
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
August 06 2013 12:49 GMT
#34
On August 06 2013 20:50 sPSalai wrote:
I cant see stephano make it, I think the rest of the 3 will take care of the 2 spots, either of the 3, welmu, lucifron or duckdeok can make it, Stephano is just a joke, I wins by not caring, by not being stressed out because he doesnt care...he isnt even good at laddering, just doing good in live events because he hates the game he plays and couldnt care less. So my prediction is more a hope I have...I really HOPE stephano gets out tonight, he is a joke to the sport, and one of the most disgusting players out there. Talking about retire all the time makes SC2 look bad. And him being the biggest jerk ever when casting games...no I just hope, PLEASE stephano, get out tonight, and f**king retire, I cant stand you.


Haha so much hate. Too bad he doesn't give a shit about haters XD
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
August 06 2013 12:55 GMT
#35
Grubby - Very emotional. That's why we love sports. Almost like Federer at Wimbeldon.
On August 06 2013 18:12 AyaaLa wrote:
if Luci fails tonight I will crush my monitor..

And yes I am afraid your monitor has to go
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 06 2013 13:13 GMT
#36
The picture for this article on the front page perfectly sums up stephano
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
August 06 2013 13:14 GMT
#37
Luci WILL advance

Not a chance anything else happens
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Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
August 06 2013 13:15 GMT
#38
Stephano is going to take this tournament. If only it was a Steph/MMA finals!
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Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
August 06 2013 13:18 GMT
#39
On August 06 2013 19:24 Adonminus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 18:38 KingMel wrote:
Seriously, has the guy who makes predictions ever watched some Starcraft 2 ?...

Don't underestimate Duckdeok, he beat TLO in his last group. And if you remember Lucifron lost to TLO last season, so if he can beat people like TLO, beating Lucifron won't be the hardest thing. Though I don't think he can win Stephano, the style of Stephano is just too hard for protoss to beat.

Then I'm sure beating Innovation/Rain/Soulkey won't be the hardest thing either...
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
August 06 2013 13:18 GMT
#40
On August 06 2013 18:12 AyaaLa wrote:
if Luci fails tonight I will crush my monitor..

Can't you just send it to me and crush something else? There is always place for one more monitor.
DustbinBieber
Profile Joined April 2013
France276 Posts
August 06 2013 13:44 GMT
#41
I'm astonished and irritated by the fact that SC2 still allows results such as Grubby topping MVP....

... Yet again Grubby's so great of a guy I can't even pretend to care this time around.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 06 2013 13:51 GMT
#42
Lucifron is 11-16 vs Protoss since the start of July so I could see him not making it out of the group, especially since he seems to underperform in live events. Duckdeok is going to get first just like in the prediction and he will be vs Hasuobs in the finals :D
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Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
August 06 2013 14:12 GMT
#43
If Duckdeok makes it into the RO8 I'll be very mift. His games were the most frustrating to watch in the RO32
Ry2D2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States429 Posts
August 06 2013 14:19 GMT
#44
Predicting deoduck advance over lucifron? Madness!!
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 06 2013 14:37 GMT
#45
let's hope for stephano !
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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G18333
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia6 Posts
August 06 2013 14:39 GMT
#46
Grubby you F***iNG LEGEND!!
♥♥♥
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
August 06 2013 14:40 GMT
#47
On August 06 2013 23:19 Ry2D2 wrote:
Predicting deoduck advance over lucifron? Madness!!


Deoduck's cheesey play tends to hard-counter Lucifron's greedy play so I'm in agreement with the prediction but not in the order the writers put it.
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
August 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#48
Welmu enters the Ro16 as the best player from Finland (except Elfi; no one is better than Elfi), looking to do his country proud in Europe's biggest competition.


Elfi mentioned twice in a row in the previews, let's make it a trend :D

And about the group, in Stephano we trust. Sadly not so much in Welmu :p
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 06 2013 14:47 GMT
#49
It's funny reading people being in denial about Stephano's retirement.
People just seems to refuse to believe that he never really cared for the game as much as they want.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 06 2013 14:55 GMT
#50
Can't really see any other results happend than Duckdeok winning and Welmu getting second.
hundred thousand krouner
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 06 2013 15:05 GMT
#51
On August 06 2013 20:25 monsta wrote:
Jürgen


i cried so much last night
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
August 06 2013 15:36 GMT
#52
Grubby is fucking awesome!
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 06 2013 15:36 GMT
#53
Those five minutes with Grubby tearing up was the strongest television I've watched in a long time. I wanted MVP to advance cos he made the seasonal finals so epic last time, but I can't cheer against Grubby. Unpossible.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
August 06 2013 15:41 GMT
#54
I think Stephano is gonna get rolled, but it would be nice if he makes a good run for his last hurrah. Whatever people may think of him, he was pretty much the foreigner hope for a pretty long time, he deserves a nice sendoff.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 06 2013 15:46 GMT
#55
GRUUUBBBYYY <3
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
GrimwulfSC2
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada43 Posts
August 06 2013 15:48 GMT
#56
Cmon stephano and lucifron, lets see if we can turn europe in to a korean free zone
"It's not that he's dumb, he's just neural parasited by a retarded infestor." -Day9
DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
August 06 2013 15:56 GMT
#57
On August 06 2013 22:18 Abominous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 19:24 Adonminus wrote:
On August 06 2013 18:38 KingMel wrote:
Seriously, has the guy who makes predictions ever watched some Starcraft 2 ?...

Don't underestimate Duckdeok, he beat TLO in his last group. And if you remember Lucifron lost to TLO last season, so if he can beat people like TLO, beating Lucifron won't be the hardest thing. Though I don't think he can win Stephano, the style of Stephano is just too hard for protoss to beat.

Then I'm sure beating Innovation/Rain/Soulkey won't be the hardest thing either...


Where did that come from?
TLO hasn't beaten any of them, and you are lying to yourself if you say that Luci is as good as they are
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 06 2013 15:58 GMT
#58
Stephano, don't disappoint me my boy. I want to see your games live a last time so better qualify for WCS World. LucifroN is my heart choice for the 2nd place but he's going full foreigner these last weeks so duckdeok could qualify. Welmu is a very good player but I don't think he's strong enough to pass this group.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
August 06 2013 16:05 GMT
#59
Shots fired at NASL. ;D
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 16:09:14
August 06 2013 16:08 GMT
#60
Oh wait, this isn't the LR thread. :D
theacox
Profile Joined June 2011
United States38 Posts
August 06 2013 16:31 GMT
#61


Lucifron also happened to lose to an American in Goswser back at ASUS ROG, further derailing the hype train.

So the story here for Lucifron is the same old stuff: Massively hyped, definitely very talented, but still looking for the big result to bring it all together. While I still maintain that his great multi-tasking and variety of builds makes him the closest thing Europe has to the Korea Terran Robots, but it's getting awfully painful waiting for the results to come in. Well, here's to hoping again!




Why the sneer at Goswser being American? We all know the NA scene is smaller, and dominated by Koreans. Do you remember the games from DH a few weeks ago? Game 2 vs Hyun? Goswser's practice regime with Millennium has clearly been paying off.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 13:57:46
August 06 2013 16:35 GMT
#62
On August 06 2013 18:29 jarod wrote:
1Stephano
2Lucifron
3Duckdeok
4Welmu

.. this is what i hope for.. WCS is just not the same without stephano and luci in top 8... even if ASUS and DH Valencia was bad for Lucifron/Stephano.. they are still in the top5 best europeans atm.

[edit]
also this:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 18:26 Musicus wrote:
Hm stephano is already at the studio, arrived when it was still closed, I think he means business and will win this season.

EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC 11m

@ApolloSC2 hey, I'm at the front door and its closed. Can't get in all I want is practice.



=))) awesome

You are from romania but dont cheer for player that plays romanian team

GOGO WELMU YOU CAN EASILY DO IT

Only question mark is Luci. Welmu can easily win duckdeok and stephano but how about luci? ;(



I have predicted better since season1 than these writers likr you can see my posts...
^hups I was editing not quoteing...
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Outlander23
Profile Joined September 2012
United States9 Posts
August 06 2013 16:36 GMT
#63
Damn. The Grubby video has reminded me of how old we have all become.


Go Grubby!
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
August 06 2013 16:50 GMT
#64
On August 06 2013 18:53 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 18:38 KingMel wrote:
Seriously, has the guy who makes predictions ever watched some Starcraft 2 ?...


Wait, it took you this long to figure out that we don't actually watch Starcraft? :o


check anddddddd mate! So far theyre spot on with stephano losing to duckdeok :D
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
August 06 2013 16:53 GMT
#65
On August 06 2013 18:38 KingMel wrote:
Seriously, has the guy who makes predictions ever watched some Starcraft 2 ?...


Lol, he got the first one right already.
Towelie.635
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 06 2013 19:39 GMT
#66
Well shit now we really need a new banner
Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
August 06 2013 19:43 GMT
#67
Stephano... :'(
Towelie.635
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
August 06 2013 19:53 GMT
#68
Noooo mvp I have lost the will to live
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
XiaoXiaoo
Profile Joined October 2012
Switzerland20 Posts
August 06 2013 21:16 GMT
#69
so is this Curse of the banner a new thing now, like all 5 ppl there got screwed over T_T
oRacLeGosu
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway151 Posts
August 06 2013 21:31 GMT
#70
Great to see Grubby crying! Finally someone actually shows you how much work and emotions go into this if you want to be the best.
a.k.a. [iNF]cALLe - member of TL since around 2002..account dead.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
August 06 2013 23:13 GMT
#71
now I am sad
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
ilraheeb
Profile Joined August 2012
United States16 Posts
August 07 2013 01:41 GMT
#72
In all honesty, I've always felt that the WCS system made the SC2 scene worse off.
Moments like this make me think otherwise.

Godspeed, Grubby!
Leave Nothing.
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
August 07 2013 04:07 GMT
#73
On August 06 2013 18:12 AyaaLa wrote:
if Luci fails tonight I will crush my monitor..


so hows that monitor doing?
oblivion awaits- dark archon (aka best unit ever)
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 07 2013 13:58 GMT
#74
On August 07 2013 01:35 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 18:29 jarod wrote:
1Stephano
2Lucifron
3Duckdeok
4Welmu

.. this is what i hope for.. WCS is just not the same without stephano and luci in top 8... even if ASUS and DH Valencia was bad for Lucifron/Stephano.. they are still in the top5 best europeans atm.

[edit]
also this:
On August 06 2013 18:26 Musicus wrote:
Hm stephano is already at the studio, arrived when it was still closed, I think he means business and will win this season.

EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC 11m

@ApolloSC2 hey, I'm at the front door and its closed. Can't get in all I want is practice.



=))) awesome

You are from romania but dont cheer for player that plays romanian team

GOGO WELMU YOU CAN EASILY DO IT

Only question mark is Luci. Welmu can easily win duckdeok and stephano but how about luci? ;(



I have predicted better since season1 than these writers likr you can see my posts...
^hups I was editing not quoteing...

I have predicted better since season1 than these writers like you can see my posts.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 17:28:14
August 07 2013 17:27 GMT
#75
*Wrong thread >.<
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