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[WCS KR] Innovation vs. Symbol Semi-final Recap

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[WCS KR] Innovation vs. Symbol Semi-final Recap

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May 23rd, 2013 19:48 GMT

2013 GSL Season 2
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Innovation vs. Symbol
Semi-final Recap


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Recap: Innovation vs. Symbol

by Zealously

(T)Flash may be the god of Brood War, and (Z)Azubu.Symbol may be the god of Nydus Worms, but unfortunately for them (T)STX_INnoVation is an atheist. With a 2-1 victory over the Ultimate Weapon already in the bag, the STX Terran moved on to take a convincing 4 - 2 semi-final victory over last season's runner-up, utterly decimating Symbol in macro games and only dropping games when his opponent successfully killed him before he could get his economy going.

4

(T)INnoVation

(T)INnoVation <Atlas> (Z)Symbol
(T)INnoVation <Star Station> (Z)Symbol
(T)INnoVation <Akilon Wastes> (Z)Symbol
(T)INnoVation <Red City> (Z)Symbol
(T)INnoVation <Daybreak> (Z)Symbol
(T)INnoVation <Whirlwind> (Z)Symbol
2

(Z)Symbol


For all his reputation of being a cheesy, Kwanro-style player since the release of HotS, Symbol did try to go for straight-up macro play in game 1 on Atlas, but he was run over as Innovation went up to his comfortable three bases and into his favored biomine-style, which tore Symbol apart despite his best efforts to minimize mine damage. Innovation's over-whelming, Life-killing, Leenock-owning aggression eventually forced a punch-drunk Symbol to tap out.

In a twist of fate, the cheeser ended up being the cheesed in game two as Innovation deviated from his usual formula of 1) Get many bases 2) Get marines and mines 3) Kill Zerg, to throw down a proxy 2rax. This ended up countering Symbol's own early-pool cheese perfectly, and Innovation was able to kill Symbol before he knew what hit him

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A taste of his own medicine.

Finding his protegé down 0-2, the spirit of the great Kwanro showed up to show Symbol the way, forcing the AZUBU Zerg to go for a mass roach drop build, with a nydus worm added in for good measure. But you could say that Innovation has a nose for nydus worms, and he was well-prepared when roaches, lings and queens began popping up inside his main. Without ever really looking in danger, Innovation's medivac-supported bio slaughtered the zerg forces to force a five-minute death animation for the Zerg.

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The fanciest nydus all-in we've seen.

Down 0-3, with nothing to lose, Symbol instead decided to call upon the spirit upon another Zerg. This time, Life's ghost descended upon Symbol as he decided to abandon roaches, nydus worms and even lair tech altogether as he went for an old-fashioned but highly effective baneling bust. Innovation had gone for another quick CC, and didn't seem very interested in building units. For once, it came back to bite him as Symbol's banelings exploded all his SCVs faster than Innovation could blink.

With the all-in momentum in his favor, Symbol went for yet more early aggression in the next game as he ran down Innovation's front with roaches, lings and banelings while Innovation refused to build enough bunkers after a critical misread on Symbol's intent. Overrun by units and with no real infrastructure or economy left, the STX Terran was forced to tap out for the second game in a row, much to Tasteless and Artosis's dismay.

However, there would be no come-back for Symbol as Innovation had an epiphany in game six. Innovation finally realized that Symbol kind of likes using roaches and banelings (shocking, we know), and in response built the half-forgotten, largely abandoned unit that was the backbone of Terrans throughout WoL: the siege tank. And he didn't just build one, but several. Having realized that a single bunker and a few marauders wouldn't cut it, Innovation placed siege tanks in crucial spots where they were allowed free reign when the roach/bane attack inevitably came. Inadequately prepared for the onslaught of heavy splash damage, Symbol watched his banelings disintegrate and saw the 'oomph' go out of his attack, He was given no choice but to surrender when Innovation's superior economy produced the units that kicked down his front door mere minutes later, securing the STX SouL Terran the spot in the finals opposite of Woongjin Stars' Soulkey. That guarantees a trophy for either of the tormented teams STX or Woongjin, their first in nearly six years.

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Defense wins championships?

In review, Symbol did everything he could to win in this series, but it wasn't enough. Innovation has shown over the course of this GSL season that his standard, straight-up macro play is almost unbeatable as he proceeds to roll over every opponent who allows him to get away with his Flash-level greed. The AZUBU Zerg ventured into macro territory in the first game, but quickly switched to doing what he did best and managed to take more games off Innovation than anyone (including GSL champions) else this season. But with more experience against well-executed all-ins, Innovation should be well-prepared going into his first finals against Soulkey. He saw almost every variation of roach/bane all-ins in existence against Symbol, and he should have no trouble holding more of them if that is what Soulkey decides to go for. Then again, Soulkey has defeated Innovation in a macro game in Proleague, so he may be confident enough to make that his main strategy in a best of seven series.

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No time to be happy when the real test awaits.


Writers: Zealously.
Graphics: petad.
Editor: Waxangel.
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twotoes
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United States3 Posts
May 23 2013 19:56 GMT
#2
Where can we watch this series?
protect ya neck
Mun_Su
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France2063 Posts
May 23 2013 19:58 GMT
#3
Bogus Man!
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
stickyhands
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187 Posts
May 23 2013 20:00 GMT
#4
BOGUS
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Adellund
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Denmark92 Posts
May 23 2013 20:01 GMT
#5
You can find the vods on http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/80093 , however it requires a subscription package, either from GOMTV.net or the Twitch channel, both which cost 20$ USD per month... very much so worth it though, especially if you are too busy watching live and have stuff preventing you from watching it, school ie...

also I'm European so I get the luxury of watching GSL on tuesdays and thursdays at 11 AM usually. however I am one of the lucky few due to scheduling ( no class until 14:00 at Tuesdays, and no class at all during Thursdays ).
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ErrantKnight
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland186 Posts
May 23 2013 20:02 GMT
#6
Innovation could be the next bonjwa, if he wins GSL and the season finals...he will be in a nice path for it. If only he would participate in non-korean tournaments other than MLG...but i'm not sure Kespa would let him.
"Quantity is quality by itself"
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 23 2013 20:09 GMT
#7
that was a brutal match for symbol, but as zealously stated he did everything he could to have the best chance at taking it.
i really didn't think symbol would take more that 1 game of this terran overlord
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n0ah
Profile Joined June 2011
United States250 Posts
May 23 2013 20:10 GMT
#8
The Innovation look... it terrifies me. Haha
If this is to end in fire, then we will all burn together
Acidrain77
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada11 Posts
May 23 2013 20:16 GMT
#9
Whens the finals?
twotoes
Profile Joined March 2013
United States3 Posts
May 23 2013 20:18 GMT
#10
I found them just on YouTube, pretty sure I'm watching the right thing
protect ya neck
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
May 23 2013 20:39 GMT
#11
On May 24 2013 05:02 ErrantKnight wrote:
Innovation could be the next bonjwa, if he wins GSL and the season finals...he will be in a nice path for it. If only he would participate in non-korean tournaments other than MLG...but i'm not sure Kespa would let him.


Is Innovation the next Zerg bonjwa?!?!?111?!!1?1

This series was crazy, cannot believe how good Innovation is sometimes T.T
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
May 23 2013 20:40 GMT
#12
If the Youtube vods are from last night, they'll be taken down shortly, but there are those from last season GSL.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
threesxmafia
Profile Joined December 2010
United States131 Posts
May 23 2013 20:46 GMT
#13
that tank positioning in game 6 was sexy as hellll, fell asleep for that game, good series though. gogo innovation, get that gsl.
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Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
May 23 2013 20:52 GMT
#14
Innovation atm the just one level above all. I am really excited for the finals!
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Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 23 2013 20:54 GMT
#15
Innovation Fighting!!!!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
May 23 2013 20:59 GMT
#16
Well done! Best Terran Terra (World)
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IcookTacos
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Sweden295 Posts
May 23 2013 21:03 GMT
#17
Love these Threads! Great if you don't have a season ticket and can't watch the vods
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kugel
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany116 Posts
May 23 2013 21:13 GMT
#18
good series. 3:2 after beeing down 3 games is kind of an achievment against innovation these days.
Game 6 was so good if you just look at the defensive position that innovation set up. his tank positioning was brilliant. Good luck against soulkey, he made it to the finals so he wants to win nomatter what.
btw TvZ Final, hell yeah !
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 21:14:25
May 23 2013 21:14 GMT
#19
BoGus. Nuff said
rip prime
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
May 23 2013 21:19 GMT
#20
Soulkey awaits...should be interesting as both have similar, solid playstyles, and the last time they played in proleague, it was a fantastic game.
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
May 23 2013 21:24 GMT
#21
Innovation has it locked up
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Lunareste
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United States3596 Posts
May 23 2013 21:41 GMT
#22
I'm sooooo excited for Innovation vs Soulkey finals. I wish I could fly out to Seoul, I really do.
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Australia54784 Posts
May 23 2013 21:49 GMT
#23
both semifinals so boring, i hope the finals are better!
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
May 23 2013 21:49 GMT
#24
Innovation's new nickname:

The Atheist

who's with me?
Что?
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
May 23 2013 21:54 GMT
#25
I think the last time I was this pumped for a GSL finals was back at MMA vs DRG. Hopefully we get another game like their game 7 on shakuras.....
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Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
May 23 2013 21:54 GMT
#26
On May 24 2013 06:49 Shady Sands wrote:
Innovation's new nickname:

The Atheist

who's with me?


Love it
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Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
May 23 2013 22:00 GMT
#27
Defense wins Championships ? you must be a fan of NBA !
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Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
May 23 2013 23:07 GMT
#28
More Innovation auto-winning versus Zerg for the Finals. Hooray...

Honestly though, won't be watching this. Innovation will crush some more face I'm sure though.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
v_lm
Profile Joined September 2012
France202 Posts
May 23 2013 23:08 GMT
#29
What was worth mentioning is the medics scout in the final game : using the boost to scout early, using the boost again to scout the whole base without dying, seeing the roach warren and baneling nest (which were hidden on a corner). Free scout at 7min into the game where a 300 min scan wouldnt spot the aggression coming.
I feel like scans are only used to remove creep tumors in this MU.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 23:20:50
May 23 2013 23:17 GMT
#30
and the prophecy has been fulfilled. SK versus Bogus in the final. I wouldn't have it any other way really.

On May 24 2013 08:07 Wingblade wrote:
More Innovation auto-winning versus Zerg for the Finals. Hooray...

Honestly though, won't be watching this. Innovation will crush some more face I'm sure though.


A lot of you seem to forget that SK actually has a very decent record against Mr. Bogus. It should be as close as the Symbol series. Both are pretty good Zergs. SK hasn't shown us everything yet.
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
May 23 2013 23:47 GMT
#31
On May 24 2013 08:07 Wingblade wrote:
More Innovation auto-winning versus Zerg for the Finals. Hooray...

Honestly though, won't be watching this. Innovation will crush some more face I'm sure though.


Honestly, do what ever you like.
But I think most people bet on the wrong horse.
Innovation rides momentum and got incredibly lucky in some of his recent games, especially vs Flash.

Soulkey however, might be the closest to a perfect player since savior.

+ Show Spoiler +
AAAAAND REALLY? WOuld you have rather watched another ZvZ Final?
Iwik
Profile Joined March 2013
57 Posts
May 24 2013 00:12 GMT
#32
BOGUS TOO STRONK kind of feel bad for symbol...his play of macro -> 4 straight early attacks kind of gives a sense of hopelessness D:
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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
May 24 2013 00:19 GMT
#33
Extremely excited for the finals. Best Zerg vs Best Terran. A matchup of ages.
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largehadroncollider
Profile Joined May 2013
United States88 Posts
May 24 2013 01:09 GMT
#34
Soulkey will hold.
still alive
fourColo
Profile Joined June 2011
United States363 Posts
May 24 2013 01:28 GMT
#35
On May 24 2013 06:41 Lunareste wrote:
I'm sooooo excited for Innovation vs Soulkey finals. I wish I could fly out to Seoul, I really do.

You can, there's this thing called airplanes and vacation time and YOLO.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 24 2013 01:29 GMT
#36
On May 24 2013 05:02 ErrantKnight wrote:
Innovation could be the next bonjwa, if he wins GSL and the season finals...he will be in a nice path for it. If only he would participate in non-korean tournaments other than MLG...but i'm not sure Kespa would let him.

There are regular phases where 1 person seems invincible (Mkp, Taeja, Life, Rain kind of, etc). I don't think Innovation will stay this dominant for an extended period of time (although I do agree it would be awesome). Now, he did made GSL ro4, ro8, and now the finals, so we'll see how he keeps up.
Refer to my post.
Rjlraymond
Profile Joined December 2012
40 Posts
May 24 2013 01:58 GMT
#37
On May 24 2013 06:49 Shady Sands wrote:
Innovation's new nickname:

The Atheist

who's with me?


That actually works really well; it's reflective of his cool/scientific approach to the game. He's like a scientist dissecting frogs reaalllyyy really fast.

Also, considering his preferred style, The Biologist could work as well.
Glenn313
Profile Joined August 2011
United States475 Posts
May 24 2013 03:09 GMT
#38
Innovation is going hard!
Hey man
Bardock
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Colombia36 Posts
May 24 2013 03:52 GMT
#39
Just remembered this game.

snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
May 24 2013 04:22 GMT
#40
It will be a good finals I think these are the two best players or at least pretty close to it. Soulkey has a decent chance to win I dont think its a huge long shot like many people seem to think. Soulkey knows how to prepare for this and has a lot of very good teammates to help him prepare. If any zerg can beat innovation in a macro game I think soulkey can.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
May 24 2013 04:34 GMT
#41
On May 24 2013 08:47 HaRuHi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 08:07 Wingblade wrote:
More Innovation auto-winning versus Zerg for the Finals. Hooray...

Honestly though, won't be watching this. Innovation will crush some more face I'm sure though.


Honestly, do what ever you like.
But I think most people bet on the wrong horse.
Innovation rides momentum and got incredibly lucky in some of his recent games, especially vs Flash.

Soulkey however, might be the closest to a perfect player since savior.

+ Show Spoiler +
AAAAAND REALLY? WOuld you have rather watched another ZvZ Final?


Please be joking. Please.
Pillowpants117
Profile Joined April 2011
33 Posts
May 24 2013 04:41 GMT
#42
On May 24 2013 06:49 Shady Sands wrote:
Innovation's new nickname:

The Atheist

who's with me?


Vouch this may the Atheist Terran go undefeated from here on and forever.
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 05:09:53
May 24 2013 05:07 GMT
#43
On May 24 2013 08:47 HaRuHi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 08:07 Wingblade wrote:
More Innovation auto-winning versus Zerg for the Finals. Hooray...

Honestly though, won't be watching this. Innovation will crush some more face I'm sure though.


Honestly, do what ever you like.
But I think most people bet on the wrong horse.
Innovation rides momentum and got incredibly lucky in some of his recent games, especially vs Flash.

Soulkey however, might be the closest to a perfect player since savior.

+ Show Spoiler +
AAAAAND REALLY? WOuld you have rather watched another ZvZ Final?


I wanted sOs to win. Hasn't been a Protoss in a final since that PvP final. I wouldn't have watched either to be honest.

Also you forget, Flash is a Terran. Innovation has looked almost human against Terran. But Innovation was pretty much rolled every Zerg he's played this season and now he has experienced basically every good Zerg all-in. Soulkey MIGHT win a game. MIGHT.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Marshall_D
Profile Joined November 2008
United States196 Posts
May 24 2013 05:24 GMT
#44
I think the series will be close. I think Soulkey might be one of the only zergs than can stop innovation's 3 base pushes, with his good micro. BUT I think Innovation will break him down eventually in the series. Bogus is stone cold.

Bogus is Iceman.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
May 24 2013 05:53 GMT
#45
I think Innovation, Soulkey and Flash are the only three players for me that still warrant an almost magical belief in their abilities. sOs had disappointing play in high-profile matches, Parting never quite convinces me he is on the same level as the best of the best, Life and Roro have both faltered lately.
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iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
May 24 2013 06:15 GMT
#46
but unfortunately for them STX_INnoVation is an atheist.
Well played sir :D.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 24 2013 06:29 GMT
#47
So, two Kespa players in the finals. Elephants have finally arrived?
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
May 24 2013 06:54 GMT
#48
Soulkey is at least as good as Bogus. This should be awesome finals !
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
May 24 2013 07:05 GMT
#49
On May 24 2013 15:29 -Archangel- wrote:
So, two Kespa players in the finals. Elephants have finally arrived?


ST.Life skill is over bogus+soulkey together . he just need a couple more years . now that esf have the future . keep hyping your elephants. they will all enter the slaughterhouse soon enough .
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 24 2013 07:11 GMT
#50
That nydus all in was one of the coolest things I've seen, shame he tried it versus Bogus.
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Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
May 24 2013 07:36 GMT
#51
Innovation has had an amazing run so far. He's simply beaten the best of the best: Life, Flash, Rain, SymboL, RorO. All of them manhandled, especially the Z. I don't think I've seen a GSL run this impressive in a long time, if ever.

Soulkey on the other hand had his best foes as sOs and PartinG, both which were extremely close series. Lost against Flash, beat Maru 2-1 twice and also Yoda and Flying 2-0. Those are nowhere near as strong as Innovation's foes, though.
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
May 24 2013 07:37 GMT
#52
Love me some Bogus and i hope that he wins, but Soulkey is no push over. People shouldn't be counting this as a one sided stomp just yet.
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Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
May 24 2013 07:39 GMT
#53
The AZUBU Zerg ventured into macro territory in the first game, but quickly switched to doing what he did best and managed to take more games off Innovation than anyone (including GSL champions) else this season.

Except for Rain who also took two games off Innovation. Rain beat Innovation 2-1 in the Ro32 group. Innovation actually lost the first Bo3 he played this season :p

But Innovation did get revenge by beating Rain 2-0 in the deciding match of the group.
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
May 24 2013 07:53 GMT
#54
Come on people! Innovation is not unbeatable. He went 2-2 with Rain, Soulkey beat him, he's 3-5 vs Flash etc. He was lucky Flash went for a stupid mech build. It's stupid to proclaim him as bonjwa. He needs at least 5 GSLs and years of play at high level to say he is a bonjwa. I still don't understand why Life played macro games against him..
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
May 24 2013 07:58 GMT
#55
On May 24 2013 16:36 Aserrin wrote:
Innovation has had an amazing run so far. He's simply beaten the best of the best: Life, Flash, Rain, SymboL, RorO. All of them manhandled, especially the Z. I don't think I've seen a GSL run this impressive in a long time, if ever.

Soulkey on the other hand had his best foes as sOs and PartinG, both which were extremely close series. Lost against Flash, beat Maru 2-1 twice and also Yoda and Flying 2-0. Those are nowhere near as strong as Innovation's foes, though.


That's interesting. Has any past winner or finalist beaten both finalists of the previous season before?
gg no re thx
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
May 24 2013 08:04 GMT
#56
Also, interesting that Innovation has won against all races - and not only that, but also against players who are in the Top 5 of their race - en route to the finals. If he does win the finals, it would be one of the best tourney runs in GSL/WCS.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
May 24 2013 08:45 GMT
#57
Innovation made the games look bad by being so much better than Symbol. Sad truth!
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
May 24 2013 10:40 GMT
#58
The tank place in the last game at the third expansion was absolute sickness. I'm looking forward to the finals, it's gonna be crazy!
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 11:47:54
May 24 2013 11:47 GMT
#59
On May 24 2013 16:53 p14c wrote:
Come on people! Innovation is not unbeatable. He went 2-2 with Rain, Soulkey beat him, he's 3-5 vs Flash etc. He was lucky Flash went for a stupid mech build. It's stupid to proclaim him as bonjwa. He needs at least 5 GSLs and years of play at high level to say he is a bonjwa. I still don't understand why Life played macro games against him..

You mean WCS-KRs? I think 5 is a bit too much. Also the number is not as relevant as result in a row. If he wins all WCS-KR (GSL, OSL, GSL) then I guess Bonjwahood is around the corner, especially if he will add WCS-WC trophy to the list.

Then again - maybe even that won't be enough.

And he isn't at the moment champion of anything. Jumping into Bonjwa wagon at this moment is weird.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
May 24 2013 12:22 GMT
#60
That guarantees a trophy for either of the tormented teams STX or Woongjin, their first in nearly six years.


First title for a STX player in 6 years?What the hell?
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Serpicou
Profile Joined May 2013
Poland3 Posts
May 24 2013 13:56 GMT
#61
Can't believe a player like Symbol needed to play these two won games like he did. This Terran is almost unstoppable when it comes to later stage of the game.
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
May 24 2013 14:29 GMT
#62
That game 1 looked really scary, like really scary. There is a reason that symbol actually srsly did only cheese I think, he just got obliterated in game 1.

With innovation having so much momentum I'd definitely wonder if soulkey has a chance, but soulkey is a really good zerg. I'd go with 4-3 innovation (soulkey getting 1 macro game win and 2 cheese wins).
neilp187
Profile Joined February 2013
United States13 Posts
May 24 2013 14:46 GMT
#63
Innovation wayyyyy to good. Winner of the gsl championship. Soulkey as no chance I think. GG
PBCL
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden44 Posts
May 24 2013 14:48 GMT
#64
On May 24 2013 06:49 Shady Sands wrote:
Innovation's new nickname:

The Atheist

who's with me?


Wow r/atheism keep it to reddit
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Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
May 24 2013 14:53 GMT
#65
Innovation's tank placement in that last game was just so incredible. Sucha good player... Soulkey will definitily be a worthy adversary though... can't. fucking. WAIT!
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
May 24 2013 14:56 GMT
#66
hope hes not artosis cursed yet

otherwise i think he wins this GSL
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
May 24 2013 15:17 GMT
#67
On May 24 2013 12:52 Bardock wrote:
Just remembered this game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMcXZYhHDxg

I didn't know that was against bogus (assuming its the game I'm thinking about, briefly looking at it seems so where soulkey presses the w key to victory).

Bogus always was the terran I felt terran users could sympathize with; while flash/fantasy were too gosu and doing things you'd never be able to do in their respective decision making/risk takintg vs harrassment--and leta doing offshoot styles that were different from other terrans-- bogus (and sea) always were the just general solid players who kept getting cheesed by protosses, stuck unable to kill a zerg because of 1 swarm, etc etc. All the things that frustrates terrans to no end and, when playing the game, feels like complete and utter bullshit

bogus is one of the general terran player's icon.
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warmus
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom196 Posts
May 24 2013 16:23 GMT
#68
I think game 1 is gonna be absolutely crucial. If it so happens that SK wins game one in macro (which is definitely not impossible), it would be a game changer. It would give SK the ability to dictate the pace of the following games/ mindgames and bogus would have to reconsider his go to 3 base flash- level greed. If bogus wins macro, we may see a repeat of symbol but (still) with more macro connotations. I think that the importance of who takes the first win in macro game is why we are likely to see some cheese in g1. This finals is far from predetermined, and if there is anyone in the world who could win zvt against bogus in a week, its only SK.
WTFTerran
Profile Joined November 2011
Russian Federation286 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 16:46:21
May 24 2013 16:44 GMT
#69
go go bogus
Bogus, MKP, Bomber FTW!
A3mercury
Profile Joined June 2012
United States26 Posts
May 24 2013 20:41 GMT
#70
I was so excited to get his autograph at MLG Dallas. That ONE mistake against Flash where he walked his army into a huge tank line and lost kept him from winning that tournament I think. I know he is going to win this season, it's like the one liquidbet that I know I'll get right haha.
"Obsession is a word the lazy say to describe the dedicated."
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 25 2013 16:41 GMT
#71
I like how so many people are writing off SK when his record against Bogus is fairly good compared to every other Zerg.
SusanBoyd41
Profile Joined May 2013
3 Posts
May 26 2013 14:44 GMT
#72
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