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Shinhan OSL2 - Tie Breakers Week 4.1

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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-13 10:31:23
May 13 2006 10:16 GMT
#1
It’s Tie-breaker time!

With such an obnoxious number of games being played each week, these reports will be short and sweet. As always, for info about the tournament, the groups, and everything Shinhan OSL2, see jkillashark's incredible topic.

Group E – Stay[HyO] – Casy – Zergman

Stay vs Casy
Peaks of Baekdu


Casy (1) went 2 rax with a wall to fend off the threat of early lings while Stay (7) showed he lives on the wild side by expanding to the bottom right before his pool. Casy attempted to bunker up at the expansion before Stay could defend it, by the Zerg was ready for this move and a group of 5 drones was already there to stop the SCV before it could finish building. The game progressed naturally from there with Casy building up an MMF force and Stay sunkening up at his main and expo. When the time came for Casy’s attack, he simply judged which Zerg economy had less sunkens and attacked. He walked over Stay fairly easily.

Casy > Stay

I didn’t like Stay’s BO. He had to split his sunkens between 2 distant places on the map so Casy’s pointed attack on one easily over powered anything Stay could’ve put up. Easy 2 rax pumping win for the Terran.

Stay vs Zergman
Rush Hour


Zergman (11) 9 pooled while Stay (7) 12 pooled. Zergman pumped lings and started his lair as Stay expanded to his natural. When their forces met, Stay did an excellent job of dancing with Zergman until he could match his ling numbers and killed off all of Zergman’s units to save his expansion. Zergman’s spire was very quick, however, and Stay later found himself losing many drones to ling and muta raids. His scourge and few mutas were running around in circles as Zergman skillfully poked at him through the holes. Stay was eventually overrun due to his lack of drones.

Zergman > Stay

Zergman really showed he chops here. After using a lower econ build he attacked and was still not able to capitalize on it fully, but by manipulating Stay with well placed and well timed attacks he made up the deficit he suffered in the first few minutes and showed his superior skills.

Casy vs Zergman
815


It’s anyone’s guess how these two players were feeling as they geared up to start their match, but one of them must have been quite a comedian while they waited for the count down to start. If I were to speculate, I’d say it was probably at Stay[HyO]’s expense…

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What a noob! He should stop embarrassing himself and just stick to playing X-17ers!


Casy (starting at 7) opened the game with a fast academy/dropship build to contain his opponent and prevent him from taking a fast island expansion. Zergman (starting at 1) saw this tactic coming, however, and utilized a natural expansion/hydra build to protect both his economies safely. After scouting out all the islands and realizing his opponent didn’t want them anyway, Casy dropped Zergman’s main and was able to destroy an evolution chamber (presumably researching +1 ranged attack) before losing his MnM force to hydras. Casy reloaded his dropship but lost it shortly after to patrolling hydras before he could do anything else significant.

Zergman had now taken a new main, and had a very respectable hydra lurk force camping at Casy’s natural. The Terran had a lot of MnM/Vessel, but he had missed his opportunity to expand and was trapped in his main behind the tiny 815 exit ramp. After some weak dropship harass at the Zerg main and a failed attempt to break through the hydra wall at his natural, Casy gave up.

Zergman > Casy

Zergman played a great game. His hydra build was perfectly suited to defend against the many variations of popular Terran dropship builds for island maps and he concentrated on containing his opponent instead of getting flustered and run around the map by drops. That tiny ramp can be quite the X-Factor in games on 815 and this was a prime example of it.

Zergman advances from Group E!

Group F – Midas – Stork – Iris

Midas vs Stork
Cultivation Period


Stork (3) started his first pylon in the middle of the map, obviously for some proxy gates, and Midas (6) built his depot and rax strategically to defend against early zealots. As Midas took his gas and Stork warped in a second gate, the game began to look startlingly similar to Midas’ last TvP on this map against IntoTheRainbow.

Stork immediately took the lead as he fought the first Terran marine with a zealot and stylishly finished it off with his scouting probe. The micro battle was on as Midas danced his marine and SCVs around and Stork attempted to delay the building of the first Terran factory. The zealot rush was stopped short so a core could be warped in with only 3 protoss warriors walking around the Terran main. Midas suffered some tough luck losing his first vulture to the zealots and was viably disappointed. It didn’t matter as much as he had thought though, because Stork already had 2 goons walking toward Midas’ base and with only one freshly built tank to defend with, the lot/goon army walked over him.

Stork > Midas

Stork played well and had obviously effective harassment early on seeing as his unit production was always a step ahead of Midas. Even if he hadn’t lost that first vulture so clumsily, Midas didn’t really seem to have a shot anyway. 3 lots and 2 goons against a vulture a tank and some SCVs seems like pretty easy pickings to me. The new Cultivation Period continues to dazzle us all by showing once again that it’s just as crappy as the old one.

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Screw this stupid map! I’m a TvP monster! You should FEAR ME!!!


Midas vs Iris
Rush Hour


Midas (11) went for a very Oov-ish 1 fact into fast CC build while Iris (7) started with a typical 2 fact BO. Once both vulture upgrades were done, Iris rushed in with a vulture force and mined up Midas’ nat, right up to the CC. Unphased, Midas continued to mine and started up a third factory and comsat, hoping to shortly take advantage of his early economic boost. But when his scan finished and he began to cut through the mine field he was met by sieged tanks. After destroying Midas’ entire force, Iris forced his way into his opponent’s nat and expanded to his own natural. By the time Midas forced Iris’ army back, he was way behind economically and was run-over by vultures and tanks.

Iris > Midas

Midas got greedy and showed that he severely lacks the skills to defend with nothing. Apparently Oov is having a hard time teaching it to him.

Iris vs Stork
815


Stork (5) opened with a nexus first (to his natural expansion) and built one gateway there and one in his main. Iris (11) built a CC at the 7 o’clock main immediately after his rax, making it clear that a macro game was about to commence. Stork concentrated on building goon and cannon defenses for drops that would never come as Iris solidified himself at his new main by building a wall at the ramp with a depot and factory. Once he found his opponents expansion, Stork poked at it with some lot/goon and quickly backed off. He took the 1 o’clock natural and main and switched his target, attacking Iris’ main base with a lot/goon/reaver army. Stork displayed excellent unit control as he ferried goons into the main and controlled zealots up the ramp while lifting and dropping his reaver to keep it alive…all with one multitasking shuttle. Stork won the initial battle, killing a bunch of SCVs and all of the golies in Iris’ main, but his assault was stopped once dropship reinforcements arrived. Stork lost his economy at the 1 o’clock main for a short period of time, but he simply took the opportunity to attack Iris’ 7 o’clock expansion while the Terran army was out of place. Stork continued to attack Iris at the expansion and original main, picking off stray dropships as he went. It was 4 expansions to 2 and after losing the rest of his army at the entrance to his main, Iris quit.

Stork >Iris

Stork looked mean today. He played ultra aggressive in both games and dominated his Terran opponents. I’m really starting to like this guys play.

Stork advances from Group F!

That’s it for week 4.1 of Shinhan OSL2. The 16 man tournament is coming our way soon. I can’t stress enough how great a resource jkillashark's topic is. I wouldn’t know what the hell was going on without it. Keep in mind though that it contains spoilers about the results of the other tie-breakers that were played on the 12th.

The best part of the tournament is yet to come. There are some great matchups scheduled to happen soon. Check them out in yet another scheduling post by HonestTea.
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
May 13 2006 10:48 GMT
#2
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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
May 13 2006 10:56 GMT
#3
Why didn't you include your rating?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51441 Posts
May 13 2006 11:15 GMT
#4
HOLY CRAP ZERGMAN SMILES
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ArS)V(ortiS
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany88 Posts
May 13 2006 11:15 GMT
#5
Well-written report as usual. And yeah...where's the 1337 BlueMana rating?
The ToRNaDo ToSS. GG~ HyDrOCoDeiNe@USWest No, you are NOT PGT A/A+. Stupid newb.
HappyManRun
Profile Joined November 2005
1111 Posts
May 13 2006 11:21 GMT
#6
No rating?
More battle pictures too plz ^_^
I happy, thus I run.
sTrAtO
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Mexico1084 Posts
May 13 2006 11:45 GMT
#7
yeah, i missed the battle pictures too =p
http://strato.liquidpoker.net/
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
May 13 2006 12:43 GMT
#8
Yay, thanks for giving Zergman some respect.
Trucy Wright is hot
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
May 13 2006 14:20 GMT
#9
On May 13 2006 21:43 Purind wrote:
Yay, thanks for giving Zergman some respect.


He deserved it this time.


I'll put battle pictures in when I go into more detail about the games. Now that the 16 man tournament is starting you'll see that I pay more attention. It just seems like the beginning part of this tournament was too long and boring. That's just my opinion though. I'm still an OSL lover.

As for the rating system, I don't want it to get stale. Stuff like that loses it's novelty if you see me post it every week. But rest assured, you'll be seeing it again.
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
May 13 2006 15:13 GMT
#10
thanks ManaBlue. Good report!
Do your best, God will do the rest.
T-BoT[pL]
Profile Joined May 2005
Poland241 Posts
May 13 2006 18:19 GMT
#11
zergman save the day good job!
Muell
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany89 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-13 18:30:57
May 13 2006 18:30 GMT
#12
uuh midas tvp monster and uglyness monster
id fear in vl and rl
best sc:bw player alive: IPXZerg aka sAviOr
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
May 14 2006 00:48 GMT
#13
It's about time Zergman won a few games I was very dissapointed by the first stay vs. zergman game results and nalra rape though it was entertaining.
TserHossHiBreed
Profile Joined May 2005
Algeria87 Posts
May 14 2006 03:10 GMT
#14
loooool midas looked like his whole family had just gotten ran over by a train

nice report as always mike.
Pseudo_Utopia
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada827 Posts
May 14 2006 06:57 GMT
#15
Damn I like Stork's PvT...
He makes micro so relevant, it's nice to see
Retired SchiSm[LighT]
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
May 14 2006 08:35 GMT
#16
GJ MB!
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11577 Posts
May 14 2006 09:06 GMT
#17
casy = sea[shield] ?
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-14 09:38:11
May 14 2006 09:37 GMT
#18
On May 14 2006 18:06 CaucasianAsian wrote:
casy = sea[shield] ?


Sea[shield] is Sea[shield]. He's the 16 year old prodigy.

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Casy is this guy.

[image loading]


He's had other AKAs that he uses in game. iOi and Really[Alive] come to mind. To me, when you change your name so often you deserve to get pinned with the original one if for no other reason than to avoid confusion. I hate it when players flip names every season. It's annoying.
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
May 14 2006 09:38 GMT
#19
On May 14 2006 18:06 CaucasianAsian wrote:
casy = sea[shield] ?


no -.-;
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-14 20:32:47
May 14 2006 20:32 GMT
#20
Nice report, and great pics!

Where are the blue mana bottles ?!
Enter a Uh
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
May 15 2006 12:51 GMT
#21
zergman and casey look damn retardedly funny in that pic hahaha
yea wehre are the mana bottles loved them ahaha
gota love stork =D
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-19 11:58:16
May 19 2006 04:40 GMT
#22
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
beliveme
Profile Joined May 2006
Korea (South)1 Post
May 19 2006 13:05 GMT
#23
LOL Im Korean
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