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November 22nd, 2012 01:39 GMT

Table of Contents



Group A

Group B

Group C

Group D

Bring Your Own
BYOC Open


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The Group Stages



Stockholm, Summer, Valencia, Bucharest, and now, Winter. The 2012 season of the DreamHack EIZO Open will end at the Grand Finale at DreamHack Winter in Jönköping, Sweden, where the champion of champions will be crowned.

The format has changed for this final event, with the twenty top players of the season being placed into four groups. In a nod to DreamHack's foundation as a massive LAN party, four competitors will join them from the bring your own computer open tournament. Results from the groups will determine seeding in the final, twelve-man bracket, with the finals taking place on Saturday, Nov 24th at the Komplett.se Arena.





The Group Stages

Group A: Top heavy

by Pokebunny

(T)Liquid`TaeJa, (Z)EG.Stephano.RC, (P)RoX.KIS.Fraer, (T)Quantic.TheStC, (P)ROG.elfi
BYOC Player #1


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While this group may look a bit generic, it has an interesting dynamic that makes it a bit more competitive than it may appear at first glance. Consisting of two international powerhouses, a player vying for the title of the 2012 version of PuMa, and two European Protosses known to upset someone when you least expect it, Group A will perhaps have the most interesting matches of all the groups in terms of entertainment value. While there are clear favorites, the players looking for the upsets are certainly capable of doing so, and I’d honestly be surprised if this group plays out completely straight.

The Champions

(Z)EG.Stephano.RC and (T)Liquid`TaeJa are no strangers to the top flight of international competition. With Stephano cleaning up Bomber for another trophy at Lone Star Clash 2 and TaeJa painfully falling from Code S in GSL, the momentum certainly seems to favor Stephano, but TaeJa probably would be considered to have a higher peak than Stephano this year, being hailed as #1 in the world at one point, if only for a moment. Canl TaeJa come back and prove himself dominator of the lands beyond Korea once again, or will the foreign hero stop him in his tracks early on in the tournament? Whatever happens, their match has potential to be epic. Just look at what happened the last time they faced in the group stages!

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Photo: silverfire
Regardless of the result, both players should comfortably advance into the next stage of the tournament as long as they aren’t having an absolutely abysmal day. Stephano and TaeJa are veterans of the scene, and their flexible styles backed up by mechanically solid play leave them perfect contenders for foreign tournament titles. It certainly wouldn’t be a surprise to see them both face off once again in the grand finals after it’s all said and done.

Quantic’s World Tour

Adopting the EG strategy of “send our Korean Terran to every foreign tournament and watch him clean up” has shown some success for Quantic and (T)TheStC, although he hasn’t quite been dominating as much as they might have hoped. Still, with top four finishes in both DreamHack and MLG, facing tougher player pools than PuMa did in 2011, TheStC can’t be counted out of a group with the aces of Liquid and EG. For better or for worse, TheStC does indeed represent the generic Korean Terran that we’ve come to know and love, and if there’s one thing we know about said Koreans, it’s that they’ll always manage to find their way into the top eight. If he can manage to upset either Stephano or TaeJa, he’ll be well on his way to an excellent tournament showing.

A Friar and an Elf Walk into a LAN...

If you asked people to rank the Protosses of the international scene, there would probably be a crazy amount of variance in where (P)ROG.elfi and (P)RoX.KIS.Fraer showed up on people's lists. They're both players who are relatively of the spotlight, and can use offbeat builds to catch their more well-known opponents off guard. Both are sneakily on the rise, consistently making it into the middle rounds of major tournaments while scoring upsets that might not be upsets anymore. Most recently, Elfi had a great 2nd place performance at the GD invitational, while Fraer had a good Ro8 run at DH Bucharest.

While the duo are trying to make a push into the top echelon of European competition, it's pretty obvious that their three group mates are another kind of challenge altogether. It would be a surprise to see either advance out of the group, but it certainly isn’t impossible. Both have solid PvT, and there's the chance of an upset against TheStC. If the winner of the PvP can upset TheStC, and then beat whoever comes up from the BYOC, a third place finish is not out of the picture entirely. And should either of them score an unlikely victory against Stephano or TaeJa, then the entire group would be throw into chaos.


Group B: Did someone say PvP?

by Waxangel

(P)mouz.MaNa, (Z)Acer.Bly, (P)Quantic.SaSe, (P)WW.StarNaN, (P)aTn.Socke, BYOC Player #2

While other groups might lay claim to the group of death, Group B is the leading candidate for the title of group of parity. In part, it's because of the overall evenness in skill. But more so than that, this group is about parity through PvP, with the highly unpredictable nature of the match-up meaning just about anyone could get through. All we need now is NightEnD to fight his way out of the BYOC and into this group, for it to become almost perfectly one-note.

PvParty Crasher

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Yes, Acer has a white jersey that's NOT super ugly.
Photo: R1CH
(Z)Acer.Bly is the exception in an otherwise even group, looking like the early favorite to finish in the top half and make it through. He has the convenience of having to prepare for only ZvP, the match-up that happens to be his best statistically, and the one that helped him to a second place finish back at DH Bucharest (wins vs. MaNa and Fraer in the elimination bracket). Besides MaNa, none of the players in the group are particularly known for their PvZ ability, and overall Bly is in a very good spot as he looks to repeat his great performance from Bucharest.

On a side note, Protoss fans must have mixed feelings about Bly in this group. While they'd love their mortal enemy to lose, the failure of a lone Zerg to clear a Protoss group wouldn't exactly support the popular imba complaints of late.

The Circle of Protoss

There's an extremely relevant precedent we can look back at as we try to figure out how this group might turn out. Back at the IEM Season VI World Championship, Group B ended up with a very similar composition, where five Protoss players and an out-of-place Nerchio fought for three spots in the playoff bracket (the DH winter finale and IEM's Season VII bracket system are almost exactly the same).

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Those who ignore history are doomed
to hear about it from snooty writers.

At first glance, the results at Hannover don't look all that wonky. The clear favorite MC made it through in first, famed PvP expert elfi came through in second, while HasuObs beat out White-Ra and Grubby for third place.

However, when you look at the specific scores, you can see that things were decided by razor-thin margins. The top-three all finished 3 – 2 and were only separated by map scores and head to heads. It was one of those groups where every single map mattered, and it's likely to be the same case in Jönköping as well

Now, while things are likely to be very tight, there are a few factors outside of the game that might give us a hint at who might have the best chance of making it through. For instance, (P)mouz.MaNa's a player who seems to be adept at beating long odds, and simply finding ways to win games even when he's not favored. It seemed like an upset when he won ESWC in a pool that contained players like ForGG, Squirtle, and Stephano, but perhaps it wasn't that much of a surprise at all. Contrast that with (P)Quantic.SaSe, a Korea-trained pro who's probably the best player in this group when he's on his game, but one who often has trouble performing up to expectations at tournaments. To paraphrase multiple GSL champion Mvp, "winners gonna win."

Along those lines, (P)aTn.Socke used to be a player you just couldn't count out, but a string of poor performances recently forces one to reconsider. He dropped out early in the WCS Europe Finals, and then went 0 - 4 at the Global Finals to become one of the the first players eliminated. On the other hand, Starnan balances out the feng shui of the group by coming in on an upswing, having surprised many at DH Bucharest by placing top four. Though few fans would pick him or Socke to get through, the doors are deceptively wide open. Even a losing record could be enough for qualification if one player happens to berserk with a 4 -1 or 5 - 0 record, and with the upset potential of PvP, who says they can't be that player?


Group C

by tree.hugger

(Z)Acer.Nerchio, (Z)mTw.DIMAGA, (Z)inFi.TargA, (Z)Liquid`TLO, (P)XMG.monchi, BYOC Player #3

Sometimes, in that quiet moment of lucidity that comes right before one falls asleep, I wonder "Where are all the zergs these days?" I remember that one French guy; he was probably good for a while. And there were those two Korean guys. One was named after his neighborhood, and the other a popular beverage.

It's really a shame that Sc2 has become a game where Zergs just can't get by. Especially foreign Zergs. They've always had a hard time, but recently, it's been near impossible for a Zerg to make name for themselves.

That's why I heartily applaud the Dreamhack groups, especially Group C. Having a group of four Zergs guarantees that at least two will make the bracket stage. If a Zerg comes out of the open bracket (highly unlikely; there are no good Zergs signed up for the BYOC) then it'll be two Zergs. I don't mind the affirmative action in this case, the Zergs need it.

Of course, (P)XMG.monchi is virtually guaranteed to advance from this group as the only non-Zerg. The Austrian Protoss usually comes into tournaments as a big underdog, then surprises with a strong showing. In this tournament, he's the obvious favorite to top this group without dropping a game.

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Photo: DreamHack
The rest of the Zergs in this group are quite undistinguished. The most unremarkable of the bunch is (Z)Acer.Nerchio. The Polish player has struggled mightily since switching from Random to Zerg. Frankly, he should probably switch to Terran or something. (Z)Liquid`TLO has just returned from a six month vacation in some foreign country, where he was presumably not keeping up with his practice. Expect him to throw together some dull strategies that were relevant this summer and to not get much out of them. (Z)inFi.TargA hails from Norway, which means that he is probably a top level cross country skier, who has stumbled upon Dreamhack by accident and bribed his way in. Expect super passive, defensive play from him. Finally, there's (Z)mTw.DIMAGA, who actually ought to do well, since it's reported that he has no social life, and has not even made eye contact with a pretty woman in over a year. Gamespot users and Kotaku editors can attest that this is extremely correlated with gaming skill, so if any Zerg is to buck the trend of imbalance, it might be him.

Oh well, it's not like any of the players in this group have any kind of fanbase, so nobody will probably watch this anyway.


Group D: Northern Promises

by Waxangel

(T)EG.ThorZaIN.RC, (T)Mill.ForGG, (Z)Liquid`Ret, (P)Liquid`HerO, (P)Mionix.NaNiwa, BYOC Player #4

[image loading]Photo: DreamHack

The Heroes

There's no doubt as to who the crowd in Sweden will be cheering for. (P)Mionix.NaNiwa and (T)EG.ThorZaIN.RC, the two best Swedes in StarCraft II, have both made it into the final tournament of the year. And somehow, both have been drawn into the same group.

It's a terrible shame that a random draw turned out that way. With the two fan favorites put together into the toughest group of the tournament, it becomes likely that at least one will be eliminated early, if not both. NaNiwa's semi-resurgence at MLG leads one to believe he has a good, fighting chance in this group, but ThorZaIN's recent difficulties fighting against Koreans makes one fearful of a quick exit for the Stockholm champion.

If there's anything to give the Swedes (players and fans) hope, it's that famous victory ThorZaIN won in Stockholm earlier this year. It was the moment that proved to even the most cynical and jaded fans (including this writer), that even if cold reality and colder Koreans are the victors the majority of the time, fairy tale endings do happen. It took a special kind of magic for ThorZaIN to defeat Monster and Polt back then, and if that magic can be conjured again, the Swedish heroes will have a chance.

Not Quite Villains

It would be fun if the players in the heroes' way were at least fun to root against, but even that's been denied to the fans. (Z)Liquid`Ret was one of the foreigner fan favorites at last year's DHW, and even in his presently diminished form, he continues to play that role. (T)Mill.ForGG with a smug grin and thousands of hours of streaming, has endeared himself to the international community as a peculiar but oddly likeable Korean. (P)Liquid`HerO, as we all know, was one of the first Koreans to gain wide scale international appeal, using a combination of flamboyant hair and even more flamboyant play to woo viewers. Oh, and they're all really good, which is why this is the group of death and all. At this rate, expect SortOf to be drawn into this group as well, to make it even more deadly, and even more painful for the Swedish fans.

The HerO

To talk about (P)Liquid`HerO once more, he comes in as the defending champion of DreamHack Winter.

Some players have taken an emotionally detached approach to pro-gaming. To them, a tournament is just a mechanism that takes in skill and spits out an appropriate amount of money. This is not the case for HerO.

It's hard to say whether HerO truly struggled more than others during his Brood War career, or that his personality made it so he felt that he had struggled more. In any case, he began playing StarCraft II as a player who had already retired from pro-gaming once after a long struggle, unable give up a dream that had seemingly given up on him. Yet, after a year of StarCraft II, things seemed to be largely the same for HerO; a frustrating pursuit hampered by an inability to perform once the pressure began to crank up.

For HerO, winning DreamHack Winter 2011 was validation for six years of his life. To him, it's a title that has more meaning than just money and glory. Its defense, is a matter of pride.

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Photo: UltimateHurl



BYOC Open

by tree.hugger

In past Dreamhacks, the BYOC has been something of a useless exercise. A couple mediocre Swedes ship in, and a few jilted foreigners usually took whatever slots there were to take. Nobody did anything remotely interesting.

Not the case this year.

While only a couple of the players in the open bracket can honestly be considered true championship dark horses, (with one notable exception) there are a number of players here who could actually do some damage. Dreamhack Winter is no longer a tournament of 100+, it's a tournament of a lucky few. And for everyone else, there's the BYOC.

Disclaimer: This is based on the players listed in the BYOC bracket. Not all players are confirmed to actually show up.
Sign-up list on BinaryBeast


Championship Dark Horses

se (Z)WW.SortOf

Last year, when discussing the groups at a LAN cafe in Jönköping, this conversation happened:

TLO: I don’t know SortOf.
HayprO: Yeah, he is a Brood War player.
TLO: Is he... SortOf good?


It was an fair assessment. SortOf made absolutely no impact, going 0-6 in his group. But this year, that guy nobody ever heard of has come back as the strongest favorite in the BYOC. His skill is monstrous. This summer, I asked a top European player who the best new EU zerg would be. Without hesitation he told me that it'd be SortOf. That prediction has been borne out.He took second at the Esports SM and WCS Sweden events, while netting first in the 6th SCAN Invitational with a 7-1 combined record against K3.LucifroN and d.JonnyREcco. He barely missed the WCS Worlds cut with 1-2 losses to K3.VortiX and FXOLoWeLy.

Sort of is not only the favorite for the BYOC, but he also might have a claim to be the top Swede in the tournament. While he's a dark horse to take the whole tournament, he should go far.


[image loading] (P)RoX.KIS.TitaN (if he plays)

At the beginning of the year, I wrote about how TitaN would emerge in 2012 as one of the foreign scene's premier players. It took a little while, but he seems to finally be secure in that role. He's gone 6-2 in the EG Masters Cup, dominated the Russian WCS, and took third in the first RSL. Still, there's some maddening inconsistency. His WCS performance was a perfect example. In the groups, he tore apart ST_Curious and CJ_herO. In the bracket, he was shockingly swept by d.KiLLeR who has squeaked through a foreigner-only group. Starcraft really isn't fair.

But TitaN holds the fourth highest foreign ELO before this tournament and will be a force in the BYOC (possibly fifth below Sen, once the WCS results are inputed). He should easily dispatch the opponents he meets there and make the groupstage. But what he'll do once he reaches that point—and beyond—is completely up in the air. He should probably make it further into the brackets. He should theoretically be a threat for the title.

But whether he indeed makes it will depend on what group he's dropped in and also probably whatever intangible factor made the difference between the first and second day of WCS.


no (Z)GLSnute

Another long-developing player, Snute has steadily become more solid and deadly throughout this year. His LAN results have gotten a notable boost. At Campus Party EU, he defeated players like Ret, BabyKnight, ForGG and HasuObs en route to second place. At the Battle at the Ministry of Win, he notched third place. In the recent Acer Starcraft Challenge, he lost only to Sage, taking second place over monchi, ClouD, and HasuObs.

In the BYOC here, Snute ought to have a fairly easy time moving through. In the second half of the year, he seems to have translated his often quirky style into something that can be both safe and unexpected. His success in recent weekly events has indicated that he is more than able to defeat waves of tricky unknowns. Like others, Snute's success should he make groups is also up in the air. But the Norwegian's style has proven to be up to the test against Europe's elite enough that Snute must be considered among the elite in this BYOC and challenger in the main event.


Other BYOC Contenders

[image loading] (P)FnaticRC.NightEnD

NEnD had a great DH Winter last year. But 2012 has been fairly unremarkable. He hasn't gone to as many tournaments as he should, that's one issue. But the other is that the ones he's attended have not resulted in the kind of performances that make it seem like he's a sleeping giant in this year's event. Still, he should be favored to grab the fourth BYOC slot.


fi (T)FnaticRC.Naama

Naama also has a history of overperforming at Dreamhacks. So far this year, we've seen nothing to suggest this is anything but the same Naama who notched a top eight finish last year. So is that a good or bad thing? Hard to tell, but weird builds, pristine micro, and SCV trains are surely in the offering from the Finn. Likely to pull an upset in the BYOC and would be a huge inconvenience to the favorites in the main tournament.


kr (P)ESCDaisy

Daisy had one moment of real success in the summer, and has since completely dropped off the map. Nice as Daisy is personally, it's hard to say his play lit up European skies, so I didn't mind. But now Daisy is back, and simply by virtue of being an abusive Korean protoss, he makes it on this list. He could screw things up in the BYOC, but his main tournament chances seem slim to none. There are stronger protoss players there.

God Tier

de (Z)XMG.XlorD

Well, technically he IS on the sign-up list...

He's better than Stephano by now, right?

Right?

Writers: Pokebunny, tree.hugger and WaxAngel.
Graphics: HawaiianPig, shiroiusagi, and SilverskY.
Editor: Waxangel.
Frontpage image: Ultimatehurl
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
November 22 2012 01:45 GMT
#2
I was shocked when it said Nerchio wins Dreamhack in the tab. Change maybe?
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Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
November 22 2012 01:46 GMT
#3
I can confirm that SortOf, Ziktomini and Miniraser will 100% be in the BYOC tournament

So hyped for this tournament!
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Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
November 22 2012 01:47 GMT
#4
It's confirmed, TL has a time traveler in their midst.
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Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
November 22 2012 01:47 GMT
#5
And no one cares about IEM. Again.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33326 Posts
November 22 2012 01:48 GMT
#6
whoops, recycled old box and didn't fix the mini-heading D:
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33326 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 01:50:55
November 22 2012 01:48 GMT
#7
On November 22 2012 10:47 Shinespark wrote:
And no one cares about IEM. Again.


we care, but they released open brackets like 2 hours ago ;o

On November 22 2012 10:46 Tidus Mino wrote:
I can confirm that SortOf, Ziktomini and Miniraser will 100% be in the BYOC tournament

So hyped for this tournament!


Thanks, heard SortOf was on the fence yesterday ~_~
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Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
November 22 2012 01:50 GMT
#8
On November 22 2012 10:48 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 10:47 Shinespark wrote:
And no one cares about IEM. Again.


we care, but they released open brackets like 2 hours ago ;o


Oh, don't worry, I wasn't complaining. I don't care about IEM either.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
November 22 2012 01:52 GMT
#9
Comes out after the Dota 2 preview....A-
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 22 2012 01:53 GMT
#10
I'm feeling Daisy against any of the Zergs here. He is Parting's Soul Brother.
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StarVe
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Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 01:59:27
November 22 2012 01:55 GMT
#11
On November 22 2012 10:47 Shinespark wrote:
And no one cares about IEM. Again.

Not true, Wax totally did a power rank.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383192&currentpage=3#48

I'm so rooting for fraer here.

Elfi being in the group complicates things, I was fairly confident fraer would beat Sjow and at least one out of Stephano/STC/Taeja so we'd have an interesting race for third place going on, but with Elfi and a potentially strong BYOC qualifier like Titan/Snute/Jookto/Nightend, I have no idea how the groups will play out.

Should be a great tournament, I like that we'll have an English stream for every group stage game this time, something that was severely lacking at some other events.
Frins
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile11 Posts
November 22 2012 01:58 GMT
#12
he was shockingly swept by d.KiLLeR who has squeaked through a foreigner-only group. Starcraft really isn't fair

i think you dont give KiLLeR the credit he deserves

teaja, sase, dimaga and naniwa for group winers
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
November 22 2012 02:00 GMT
#13
On November 22 2012 10:50 Shinespark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 10:48 Waxangel wrote:
On November 22 2012 10:47 Shinespark wrote:
And no one cares about IEM. Again.


we care, but they released open brackets like 2 hours ago ;o


Oh, don't worry, I wasn't complaining. I don't care about IEM either.

This made me laugh, I don't care about them either :D
Refer to my post.
Flightan
Profile Joined June 2010
France147 Posts
November 22 2012 02:00 GMT
#14
Why isn't everyone in Acer wearing the white shirt...
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 22 2012 02:02 GMT
#15
On November 22 2012 10:58 Frins wrote:
Show nested quote +
he was shockingly swept by d.KiLLeR who has squeaked through a foreigner-only group. Starcraft really isn't fair

i think you dont give KiLLeR the credit he deserves

teaja, sase, dimaga and naniwa for group winers

Or you don't give Titan enough credit. ^_^

KilleR played well, but he used to go about 50/50 against EU Protoss players and I'd say TitaN and fraer probably have the best PvZ in Europe right now, I was a bit disappointed with TitaN looking so helpless in his favourite matchup, I'm not saying he should have won handily but a 3-0 sweep by KilleR was a big upset in my opinion.
StarCraft2
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160 Posts
November 22 2012 02:03 GMT
#16
Thanks for this summary/buildup!
Olex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States135 Posts
November 22 2012 02:09 GMT
#17
Hero Fighting!!! Gonna be a killer tournamentttt
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Ayoeme
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Latvia59 Posts
November 22 2012 02:11 GMT
#18
"God Tier" and group C made my face smirk like it didn't know any other visual expression. (:
For some things, reason is not necessary.
saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
November 22 2012 02:15 GMT
#19
My trolling alarm went off when I read the preview of group C
Imperium11
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States279 Posts
November 22 2012 02:16 GMT
#20
Group C preview was hilarious. Had me going for a little bit there
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
November 22 2012 02:22 GMT
#21
On November 22 2012 11:00 Flightan wrote:
Why isn't everyone in Acer wearing the white shirt...


I don't know but for a long time i've thought Acer have one of the ugliest shirts in esports (and that's quite a statement considering some). Definitely need to get their fabulous stick into gear.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18822 Posts
November 22 2012 02:23 GMT
#22
This preview is absolutely awesome, though the headline on the front page seems like an unnecessary snub of IEM Singapore.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
November 22 2012 02:29 GMT
#23
seXlorD # 1 player in the world
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Shew
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United States460 Posts
November 22 2012 02:31 GMT
#24
Starnan and Jookto fighting!!!! kick ass my homies <3
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Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
November 22 2012 02:32 GMT
#25
On November 22 2012 10:48 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 10:47 Shinespark wrote:
And no one cares about IEM. Again.


we care, but they released open brackets like 2 hours ago ;o

Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 10:46 Tidus Mino wrote:
I can confirm that SortOf, Ziktomini and Miniraser will 100% be in the BYOC tournament

So hyped for this tournament!


Thanks, heard SortOf was on the fence yesterday ~_~


Not sure where you heard that from, it's been planned and paid for since July
Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
November 22 2012 02:32 GMT
#26
Hahahaha, tree.hugger
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
November 22 2012 02:44 GMT
#27
haha tree.hugger
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
November 22 2012 02:50 GMT
#28
ForGG fighting!!
Long live the Boss Toss!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 22 2012 02:52 GMT
#29
gogo hero! :D
Moderatorlickypiddy
LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
November 22 2012 02:54 GMT
#30
I stopped reading halfway through group C cause I thought the Op's didn't know what the fuck they were talking about.

I need to work on realising when I've been trolled
EG<3
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
November 22 2012 02:56 GMT
#31
GO TERRANS, GO GO GO!

TAEJA TIME!
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
November 22 2012 03:12 GMT
#32
the headline: "All Eyes North" is so ironic with IEM Singapur at the same time. :D :D :D
Cj hero | Zest
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
November 22 2012 03:18 GMT
#33
no rain???
DAMN
pvpeep
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada228 Posts
November 22 2012 03:28 GMT
#34
On November 22 2012 11:00 Flightan wrote:
Why isn't everyone in Acer wearing the white shirt...


Please burn those green ones.. the white ones actually look nice
Telsh
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States148 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 03:30:57
November 22 2012 03:30 GMT
#35
t's really a shame that Sc2 has become a game where Zergs just can't get by. Especially foreign Zergs. They've always had a hard time, but recently, it's been near impossible for a Zerg to make name for themselves.


ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?

I must be watching another game then
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
November 22 2012 03:31 GMT
#36
Dear HerO,

Feel free to save my StarCraft November. No pressure, but I would be much obliged...

Sincerely,

- sad TL writer...
FeeLdAfuRy
Profile Joined October 2002
Australia290 Posts
November 22 2012 03:34 GMT
#37
Please stop using any sarcasm, irony or satire in official posts.

The resulting reading comprehension fails in the comments section make mah brainz hurt.
gatchaman
Profile Joined April 2012
United States19 Posts
November 22 2012 03:52 GMT
#38
XMG.monchi will win hands down. Good luck to the rest of the losers, but you don't stand a chance.
gatchaman
Profile Joined April 2012
United States19 Posts
November 22 2012 03:55 GMT
#39
This sarcasm is awesome. Thanks.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
November 22 2012 04:05 GMT
#40
On November 22 2012 12:30 Telsh wrote:
t's really a shame that Sc2 has become a game where Zergs just can't get by. Especially foreign Zergs. They've always had a hard time, but recently, it's been near impossible for a Zerg to make name for themselves.


ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?

I must be watching another game then

I just don't think you've reached a high enough level of analysis.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
November 22 2012 04:08 GMT
#41
oh god, group C preview was an epic troll. tourney is sure to be great though. i'm really excited to hear incontrol casting on a big stage like dreamhack!
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
-Switch-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada506 Posts
November 22 2012 04:16 GMT
#42
i wouldn't call daisy an "abusive korean protoss"..

but overall nice writeup
JEZUS
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada19 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 04:58:02
November 22 2012 04:24 GMT
#43
I stop reading after group C: too much sarcasm and bad humour imo

Edit: almost disrespectful for the players imo
amen
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
November 22 2012 05:08 GMT
#44
Group C preview is hardcore troll mode.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 22 2012 05:10 GMT
#45
tree.hugger... you troll.
ShrykLdr
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada44 Posts
November 22 2012 05:16 GMT
#46
Anyone else think it's hilarious that the only Terran representation in the opening video is a crumbling burning battlecruiser? (in the animated stuff, obviously not referring to the actual ingame footage
HuK, Stephano, Scarlett, Neeb, Team EG, Demuslim,
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8303 Posts
November 22 2012 05:27 GMT
#47
Calling it now. The true king in the north shall reclaim his crown. Naniwa shall be victorious.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
November 22 2012 05:34 GMT
#48
Openbracket participants will be revealed at 14:00 GMT (+00:00)

They will be available here: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21210264#participants

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_DreamHack_Open/Winter/BYOC - Please help keeping this up to date throughout the event

This will be a sick event - What a crazy month of Starcraft ^_^

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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
November 22 2012 05:37 GMT
#49
On November 22 2012 12:31 Porcelina wrote:
Dear HerO,

Feel free to save my StarCraft November. No pressure, but I would be much obliged...

Sincerely,

- sad TL writer...


Aww, lol

Sheer volume of stuff happening makes up for GSL imo - Also HerO did really well at BWC!
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Telsh
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States148 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 05:42:52
November 22 2012 05:42 GMT
#50
On November 22 2012 13:05 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 12:30 Telsh wrote:
t's really a shame that Sc2 has become a game where Zergs just can't get by. Especially foreign Zergs. They've always had a hard time, but recently, it's been near impossible for a Zerg to make name for themselves.


ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?

I must be watching another game then

I just don't think you've reached a high enough level of analysis.



In addition i completely missed the sarcasm. You got me lol
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
November 22 2012 06:13 GMT
#51
Thanks for the writeup. I don't really get the group C summary. Like, it was obviously being ironic or something, but I don't know what it was getting at.
Also, what's the XlorD joke? I feel like I heard it, but I cannot remember.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
November 22 2012 06:53 GMT
#52
I would argue that A is harder than D. D has 2 Koreans and 2 nearly-Koreans. Group A has 3 Koreans. The top 3 advance.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
November 22 2012 07:03 GMT
#53
I am almost more excited about what level of production Dreamhack has in store for us this time than the actual players and matches.




Almost.....
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 07:12:04
November 22 2012 07:03 GMT
#54
On November 22 2012 13:24 JEZUS wrote:
I stop reading after group C: too much sarcasm and bad humour imo

Edit: almost disrespectful for the players imo


Group C preview had obvious sarcasm and humor if you knew the players you would understand why what's been said, no reason to be angry, none of it is disrespectful to the players.
Moderatorlickypiddy
cdecdecdecde
Profile Joined November 2012
16 Posts
November 22 2012 07:24 GMT
#55
--- Nuked ---
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
November 22 2012 07:29 GMT
#56
Translation Group C in non-sarcastic:

-monchi has the potential to get out, as his recent performances showed that he has a lot of upsetpotential
-Nerchio is the favourite to take the group
-TLO practiced his ass off, so he should be a solid second place contender, if not first place
-Targa can take the group through his aggressive play (I don't know his playstyle, but because practically everything is reversed in this preview, I guess he is super aggressive)
-Dimaga couldn't impress in 2012, but he gets the credit of the doubt for past achievements. Still highly unlikely to make it out of the group though.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 22 2012 07:38 GMT
#57
SO PUMPED!
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
November 22 2012 07:48 GMT
#58
I'm Hyped, let the games commence!
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 22 2012 08:05 GMT
#59
On November 22 2012 11:11 Ayoeme wrote:
"God Tier" and group C made my face smirk like it didn't know any other visual expression. (:


It's so good. :´D
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa966 Posts
November 22 2012 08:30 GMT
#60
Thanks for the Write Up! But seriously, Group C... :-D
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
ParanoiaDHerO
Profile Joined July 2009
United States183 Posts
November 22 2012 08:32 GMT
#61
Amazing DH incoming!
lukasdesign
Profile Joined April 2011
Switzerland93 Posts
November 22 2012 08:36 GMT
#62
Wow, 4 terrans are playing as well...against 16 P & Z...how well balanced is that
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
November 22 2012 08:45 GMT
#63
Just got mega hyped!

Thank you Pokebunny, tree.hugger and Waxangel!

Hoping to see Snute get into group play
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
JEZUS
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada19 Posts
November 22 2012 09:04 GMT
#64
On November 22 2012 16:03 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 13:24 JEZUS wrote:
I stop reading after group C: too much sarcasm and bad humour imo

Edit: almost disrespectful for the players imo


Group C preview had obvious sarcasm and humor if you knew the players you would understand why what's been said, no reason to be angry, none of it is disrespectful to the players.


I'm not angry dont get me wrong but i was expecting something a bit more professional thats all. It's fine to put in a joke or two but when the whole preview of group C is like that it takes away the seriousness of the article. After reading the rest of the article i find preview of group C to be a huge contrast with the rest and seems out of place. I give a 7/10 for the article (-1 for group C preview).
amen
ShotgunMike
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden241 Posts
November 22 2012 09:16 GMT
#65
Nice! Looking forward to this!
Hot_Bid: "B10" - ThorZain: "BINGO" - Naniwa: "Apologize! ¤%#¤#&¤% Terran IMBA"
Skipvth
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands180 Posts
November 22 2012 09:28 GMT
#66
Xlord 5:0
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
November 22 2012 09:31 GMT
#67
DH is always a great event, it's going to be a great weekend for both SC2 and Dota, I can't wait.
IceBergZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia176 Posts
November 22 2012 09:32 GMT
#68
Moon No join sad
Tigi
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany472 Posts
November 22 2012 09:50 GMT
#69
Don't understimate the Sexlord :D!
§1: Die Units des Hasu sind unantastbar.
459
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden69 Posts
November 22 2012 09:58 GMT
#70
WTF is Group D's problem. "Hey I know, let's just take every player except Taeja that 459 likes and put them in the same group!"
Well, I can't be disapointed that no player I like isn't advancing at least.

Thanks for an excelent wrightup. The fanbase of Group C is hilarious! :D
And finally, GL HF SortOf!
Scrap station was the best map in SC2 history!
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
November 22 2012 10:18 GMT
#71
Group C write up was gold, haha
arioch
Profile Joined May 2010
England403 Posts
November 22 2012 10:29 GMT
#72
Nice work with Group C Treehugger..

Cant wait for this tournament. I would love to see Thorzain or Naniwa do well again here.
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
November 22 2012 10:38 GMT
#73
HerO fighting!!!
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
November 22 2012 10:51 GMT
#74
GO LIQUIIIIIIIIIIID!
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
November 22 2012 11:08 GMT
#75
Fucking awesome weekend incoming!My body feels ready! Go go Stephano!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
November 22 2012 11:30 GMT
#76
On November 22 2012 14:10 BrokenMirage wrote:
tree.hugger... you troll.

My thought exactly
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
November 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#77
Many cool storylines in this DH:W. If Dimaga manages to win he can take her wife on a good honeymoon!

On the other hand it would be incredible if a Swede won it, preferably SaSe, ThorZaiN or NaNiwa.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Mr_Z
Profile Joined June 2011
South Africa88 Posts
November 22 2012 11:38 GMT
#78
Nice writeup as always. GO GO Liquid`Hero!!!!!!
Always last :(
MauliSchaumi
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany21 Posts
November 22 2012 11:54 GMT
#79
GOGO XLORD!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 22 2012 12:10 GMT
#80
Haha didn't realise Bukkakelord himself participates, lots of 5:0 incoming. Hope Monchi performs as well!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
November 22 2012 12:17 GMT
#81
PvPvZvPvZvZvZZZZZzzzzzzzzz
Everyday Girl's Day~!
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 22 2012 12:38 GMT
#82
On November 22 2012 20:30 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 14:10 BrokenMirage wrote:
tree.hugger... you troll.

My thought exactly


tree.hugger confirmed current top troll at TL based on Group C.

Hot_bid and WaxAngel better step up their game.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
EzekyleAbaddon
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany8 Posts
November 22 2012 12:51 GMT
#83
You can never use enough sarcasm/irony right ? right ?

Yes you can !
Didnt like this preview very much :D
It`s so emotional/influenced by subject.

"Unbent, untamed, unbroken."
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 22 2012 13:04 GMT
#84
hope terrans can do well :D
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
OldManRodgers
Profile Joined November 2011
Ireland71 Posts
November 22 2012 14:10 GMT
#85
On November 22 2012 18:31 UltimateHurl wrote:
DH is always a great event, it's going to be a great weekend for both SC2 and Dota, I can't wait.


Next year, we plan properly and head back again :-)
mouzChase
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany66 Posts
November 22 2012 16:39 GMT
#86
God Tier made my day, so goooooooddd !! ^^
My opinion here does not reflect the views of my team / twitter @mouzChase / I <3 Scarlett
scorber
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
November 22 2012 17:05 GMT
#87
What is with the really really bad sarcasm this article wrote for group c?
Enel
Profile Joined April 2012
Sudan430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 17:31:06
November 22 2012 17:30 GMT
#88
hahahha God tier is funny as hell
Go Sudan
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
November 22 2012 17:31 GMT
#89
Hot_bid is no more King of the Trolls : hail to tree.hugger ! Hail to our new king !

(What about XlorD bashing btw, lacking contextual info to understand for me...)
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
November 22 2012 17:58 GMT
#90
f a Zerg comes out of the open bracket (highly unlikely; there are no good Zergs signed up for the BYOC) then it'll be two Zergs.


What? Possibly the best player in the open bracket is SortOf, a zerg.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
November 22 2012 19:11 GMT
#91
predicted naniwa to go out, it's in a good way.
predicted stephano to win his group, it's in a really bad way.

LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
Thermodynamic
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada10 Posts
November 22 2012 21:06 GMT
#92
honestly after watching the stc play today...gonna say stc hero finals
I cant be controlled, only disordered
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 01:17:35
November 23 2012 01:17 GMT
#93
On November 23 2012 02:58 Paladia wrote:
Show nested quote +
f a Zerg comes out of the open bracket (highly unlikely; there are no good Zergs signed up for the BYOC) then it'll be two Zergs.


What? Possibly the best player in the open bracket is SortOf, a zerg.

Read through it again, and use your head
¯\_(シ)_/¯
LeapofFaith
Profile Joined November 2011
United States446 Posts
November 23 2012 02:39 GMT
#94
I actually had to think about the two Korean zergs that were mentioned D:
IceBergZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia176 Posts
November 23 2012 11:08 GMT
#95
damn grubby lost
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
November 23 2012 15:42 GMT
#96
Hilariously, the only player for who I wrote a completely unsarcastic description was monchi, and it turns out my prediction turned out correspondingly accurate!
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 23 2012 16:22 GMT
#97
On November 24 2012 00:42 tree.hugger wrote:
Hilariously, the only player for who I wrote a completely unsarcastic description was monchi, and it turns out my prediction turned out correspondingly accurate!


The ultimate in trolling... put something in that people will think is just as ridiculous as the rest of it, but have it be the only serious part. And it is true.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33326 Posts
November 23 2012 21:56 GMT
#98
On November 24 2012 00:42 tree.hugger wrote:
Hilariously, the only player for who I wrote a completely unsarcastic description was monchi, and it turns out my prediction turned out correspondingly accurate!


he dropped a series, get out you trash
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
IceBergZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia176 Posts
November 25 2012 08:09 GMT
#99
Where to find replays and vods ?
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