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[MLG] Proleague Players: Profiles

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[MLG] Proleague Players: Profiles

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November 1st, 2012 05:00 GMT

The Proleague Koreans

by iS.Axslav

  • KT_Flash
  • STX_Hyvaa
  • SKTelecom_soO
  • Woongjin_Soulkey

Contributing writing by Waxangel


Four KeSPA players won spots in the group stage at MLG Fall Championship through the MvP Invitational tournament. One of them, you've probably heard of. As for the three others, well you might need a little introduction unless you were an avid watcher of MvP.

Luckily, MvP caster and analyst iS.Axslav decided to lend us all a hand and share his expert insight on the KeSPA players coming to Dallas.


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(T)Flash

Name: Lee Young Ho
Birthdate: July 5th, 1992 (age 20)
Team: KT Rolster
Years Pro: 5

Notable Achievements: 3-time OSL champion, 3-time MSL champion, WCG 2010 champion, #1 KeSPA ranked player for 14 months, 2nd place all-time Proleague wins (409), and too many more to list.

MvP Regular Season Record:
      vs. NA: 20 - 4
      vs. EU: 10 - 2
      vs. KR (non-KeSPA): 9 - 3






Brood War Background

Of all the KeSPA players coming to Dallas, Flash needs the least introduction. Debuting as a fourteen-year old prodigy in 2007, Flash needed just four years to solidify his position as one of the greatest RTS players of all time. While past greats have also won multiple championships in a year and shown similarly dominating form at their peaks, Flash's consistency year after year was unprecedented. Had professional Brood War survived for another few years, there was no question that Flash would have become the undisputed greatest of all time. Alas, a tragic fate befell Brood War in Korea, and Flash has been forced to move on. The competitors at Dallas will be relieved that The Man Called God is still learning StarCraft II, but there is still a frightening sense of foreboding that Flash will find a way to continue his legacy.

Road to Dallas
+ Show Spoiler [Detailed Stats] +
Regular Season Stats

Overall: 39 - 9
TvZ: 11 - 1
TvT: 13-3
TvP: 15-5

vs. NA
2-0 Caliber
2-0 Qxc
2-0 Sheth
2-0 Hawk
1-1 Idra
2-0 Vibe
1-1 Major
2-0 Select
1-1 Illusion
2-0 KawaiiRice
2-0 Sasquatch
1-1 Huk

vs. EU
2-0 Thorzain
2-0 Socke
2-0 grubby
1-1 Sase
1-1 Naniwa
2-0 Ret

vs. KR
1-1 Puma
2-0 Alive
1-1 Alicia
2-0 Oz
1-1 Crank
2-0 MC

Playoffs
4-3 vs Effort
3-4 vs Soo


Flash had a very strong MvP regular season run, not once dropping out of the top four. Even more amazingly, Flash never lost more than a single game against any player in the regular season. Another interesting thing to note is that while most Proleague players performed noticeably better against the NA division than the KR division, Flash showed similar performances against all the divisions, having a 75%+ win rate against each one.

In the playoffs, Flash went up against Effort in the first round, winning a closely contested 4 - 3 victory in what was one of the best series of the tournament. In round 2, Flash once again fought in a very close series, but was eliminated 3 - 4 by SoO. Still, this was good enough to win him a ticket to Fall Championship in Dallas.

MvP standout game: Game Two vs. Effort, Playoffs Round One - VOD
+ Show Spoiler [Game Recap] +

Flash's best game in MvP might have been the best of the entire tournament. On Daybreak, Flash opened greedily with a command center before barracks, and in typical Flash style, fended off Effort's early speedling raid without trouble. From there, Flash progressed up to hellions and banshees, took a third base, and then transitioned to the double armory-mech style of play.

Effort used good roach drop counterattacks to slow down Flash's mech push across the map, and instead of leaving his roaches to die like many players, saved them by lifting them back out once his delaying action was completed. Despite having been delayed, Flash's push still did a ton of damage to Effort before being stopped, taking out the Zerg natural and plenty of drones. That left Flash with four bases to Effort’s three, and with a diminished drone count at that.

Partially crippled, Effort utilized lair troops extremely well to buy himself time to rebuild his economy and set up a hive transition for himself. Amazing burrow roach micro allowed Effort to take some very efficient trades against Flash's army, and combined with a sneaky muta-switch, Effort was able to snipe critical mining bases for Flash. All of this put Effort into position to finally get brood lords out, but not before he had to face one final death push that Flash had conjured out of seemingly nowhere.

With his own income running out, Flash succeeded at tearing down Effort's remaining mining bases before brood lords hatched. With both players out of resources, the game came down to one final, epic duel between broodlord and thor/tank lasting nearly two minutes. In the end, Flash emerged victorious by the slimmest of margins.


Stylistic Analysis

Flash’s style revolves around macro that redefines the word macro. No matter who his opponent is, Flash magically finds himself with a massive supply advantage. His excellent anti-cheese defense has a lot to do with this, allowing him to play what appears to be very risky builds with no chance of early defeat. Flash achieved his relatively even win-rates across the different MvP divisions by just plain outmacroing everybody, and his losses came in the very few cases where he fell behind to undetected ploys early in the game, or when he made bad mistakes in army composition.

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Flash’s losses to Protoss are far and few between, and his loses to Terran come from early game deficits that are becoming rarer as Flash gains more experience with Starcraft 2. Zergs have proven to be Flash’s source of weakness with him being sometimes caught out of position and losing unnecessary amounts of troops to fungals.

Fall Championship Outlook

In MvP, Flash went 6 - 2 vs MC, Oz, Crank, and Alicia so he shouldn't be too worried about the four Protosses in his group. While he did lose to Terrans SuperNoVa and Ryung in his GSL Up/Down group, those were Bo1 games in which he was playing from behind for much of the game. I can’t see Flash not winning this group.





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(Z)hyvaa

Name: Shin Dae Keun
Birthdate: April 23rd, 1991 (age 21)
Team: STX SouL
Years Pro: 5

Notable Achievements: Tving OSL Ro8, Jin Air OSL Ro16, Korean Air OSL Ro16

MvP Regular Season Record:
      vs. NA: 23 - 1
      vs. EU: 8 - 4
      vs. KR (non-KeSPA): 5 - 7






Brood War Background

Like many other KeSPA pros who are finding success in StarCraft II, hyvaa did not have a particularly notable Brood War career. 'Solid' and 'consistent' would be the best words to describe the hyvaa of old, a player who had a career win-rate just three wins over 50%. He was a first-team mainstay in the Proleague, and had an uncanny knack for qualifying for the prestigious OSL without really being a championship challenger in an age of Jaedong's and Flash's. The MvP has been a great opportunity for Hyvaa, and with a surprising 4 - 1 win over OSL champion By.Rain in the playoffs, one must wonder if hyvaa will go down the road of the Nestea's and MC's before him.

Road to Dallas
+ Show Spoiler [Detailed Stats] +
Regular season stats

Overall: 36-12
ZvZ: 12-0
ZvT: 13-3
ZvP: 11-9

vs. NA
2-0 Caliber
2-0 Qxc
2-0 Sheth
2-0 Major
2-0 Select
2-0 Illusion
1-1 KawaiiRice
2-0 Sasquatch
2-0 Huk
2-0 Hawk
2-0 Idra
2-0 Vibe

vs .EU
2-0 Thorzain
2-0 Socke
1-1 grubby
1-1 Sase
0-2 Naniwa
2-0 Ret

vs. KR
1-1 Puma
1-1 Alive
0-2 Alicia
2-0 Oz
1-1 Crank
0-2 MC

Proleague tiebreakers
4-0 vs soO, Classic, Trap, Last

Playoffs
4-1 vs Rain
1-4 vs Soulkey


Hyvaa was one of the Proleague players who started off slow, going 12 - 11 over the first four playdays. Picking up builds and counter-builds along the way, he then won 23 of his last 24 games to finish with a 36 - 12 record, barely sneaking into a 5-way tie for the 7th and 8th playoffs spots. As a testament to his massive improvement over the season, hyvaa went 4 - 0 in tiebreaker games against Classic, Last, Trap, and SoO. This brought him into the playoffs against SK Telecom’s By.Rain, where he was regarded as a significant underdog given Rain’s performances in the GSL and OSL. In an upset, hyvaa defeated Rain 4 - 1, showcasing bullet-proof defense in the process. He lost 1 - 4 in the next round of playoffs to Soulkey, who had just come off a 4 - 1 ZvZ victory against Jaedong.

MvP standout game: Game One vs. By.Rain, Playoffs Round One - VOD
+ Show Spoiler [Game Recap] +
Hyvaa set the pace for the series in game one on Ohana. He showed Rain that he wouldn't be forced into taking bad engagements, sacrificing his fourth base over attempting a poor defense. In addition, he took only very minor damage to several different warp prism harass attempts from Rain, without making significant static defenses in his main base.

Hyvaa then closed out the game with great late-game unit control, smashing Rain’s maxed Stalker/Colossus/Archon/Mothership army with a single digit broodlord army backed by infestors and corrupters.


Stylistic Analysis

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Hyvaa relishes unpredictability, mixing in early aggression builds in all three matchups and is fully willing to play a low econ game. While he hasn’t showcased much offensive harassment ability in the MvP Invitational, his multi-tasking on defense is solid and his single engagement micro is excellent. The unique aspect of hyvaa’s play is his total willingness to constantly sacrifice bases to gain a superior position.

Fall Championship Outlook

Hyvaa should be happy with a Protoss heavy group. While ZvP was statistically his weakest matchup in the MvP regular season, it’s important to note that a lot of his losses came in the earlier phases of the tournament when he looked very different from the player he developed into later on. Those early losses came against MC, Alicia, Crank, and Oz, Naniwa, Sase, Socke, and Grubby, 7 of the 8 best Protosses in the tournament. However, if you look at the playoffs, his complete shutdown of Rain’s harass based play means he shouldn’t have to worry as much about HerO, though Oz and his extremely strong, macro focused PvZ builds could pose a problem. Without taking the open bracket players into account, I predict a 2nd place group finish for hyvaa, with Oz or Leenock being the opponents most likely to hand him a loss.




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(Z)soO

Name: Eo Yun Su
Birthdate: September 24th, 1992 (age 20)
Team: SK Telecom T1
Years Pro: 4

Notable Achievements: Jin Air OSL semi-finals, Tving OSL Ro8

MvP Regular Season Record:
      vs. NA: 19 - 5
      vs. EU: 11 - 1
      vs. KR (non-KeSPA): 6 - 6







Brood War Background

Soo spent his early career as one of the "SKT Zergs," a group of players responsible for causing endless frustration for fans of SK Telecom T1 through their inconsistency by committee. However, soO turned things around in the 2011 season, becoming a totally different player as he carried the Zerg workload for his team. His success in team competition carried over to individual leagues as well, as he made an impressive debut in the OSL by reaching the semi-finals before losing to eventual champion Jangbi. Soo continued on his upward path in 2012, but with the KeSPA switch to StarCraft II, fans could only wonder what he might have achieved in Brood War in his second breakout year.

Road to Dallas
+ Show Spoiler [Detailed Stats] +
Regular Season Stats

Overall: 36 - 12
ZvZ: 10 - 2
ZvT: 11 - 5
ZvP: 15 - 5

vs. NA
1-1 Caliber
2-0 Qxc
2-0 Sheth
1-1 Hawk
2-0 Idra
1-1 Vibe
1-1 Major
2-0 Select
1-1 Illusion
2-0 KawaiiRice
2-0 Sasquatch
2-0 Huk

vs. EU
2-0 Thorzain
2-0 Socke
2-0 grubby
2-0 Sase
1-1 Naniwa
2-0 Ret

vs. KR
1-1 Puma
0-2 Alive
2-0 Alicia
0-2 Oz
2-0 Crank
1-1 MC

Proleague tiebreakers
3 - 1: Wins vs. Classic, Trap, Last // Loss vs. hyvaa

Playoffs
4-1 vs Ty(baby)
4-3 vs Flash
4-3 vs Soulkey


SoO’s first four playdays were against the North American division, against which he had the weakest performance out of any of the Proleague players who made playoffs. He also struggled greatly vs. the Korean division, only winning half his games against the non-KeSPA players, which was also the weakest performance out of any of the Proleague playoff players. SoO somewhat vindicated himself by dominating the Europe division, giving him the overall score he needed to barely to squeeze into the 5-way tie for a playoff spot.

In the tie-breakers he again barely got through, losing to hyvaa but defeating Classic, Trap, and Last to grab the number two spot. SoO went into the playoffs a heavy underdog against the number one seeded Ty (baby) but came through in an absolutely dominant 4-1 victory showing the regular season was just warmup for him. While he wasn't quite as dominant as he was against Ty, SoO continued to win in the playoffs, defeating Flash and Soulkey 4 - 3 to reach the MvP finals (Thursday night at 10PM eastern time!).

MvP Standout Game: Games Two & Six vs. Soulkey, Playoff Semi-Finals - VOD 1 - VOD
+ Show Spoiler [Game Recaps] +

Games two and six of SoO vs. Soulkey were both must see games for different reasons. In game two on Ohana, SoO played very aggressively with speedlings, and later on speedlings with banelings, showcasing some of the best speedling micro I've seen. For several minutes of gameplay, SoO was constantly microing speedlings around Soulkey’s base against Soulkey’s queen/speedling/baneling defense while hitting perfect injects and overlord production at home. SoO wasn’t just splitting off speedlings to snipe banelings, but also splitting off squads of speedlings to pick off drones or any stray units Soulkey left idle for even a second. The ability to control multiple speedlings groups so perfectly while maintaining perfect macro was amazing to watch.

In game six on Tal’Darim Altar, SoO was down 2- 3 and had to win the game to force a game 7 and stay in the series. While the game wasn’t super action packed, it had its share of cool drop and nydus harass, culminating in a mass broodlord-infestor mirror battle that had me scratching my head wondering if either side would ever make headway. SoO slowly gained ground and eventually pushed in for the victory even while every single one of his bases was leveled by speedling counters leaving him with just a spine forest in the middle of the map.


Stylistic Analysis

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It’s very hard to pin SoO down to a specific style or skill set. In his series vs. Flash, his infestor-speedling play led him to victory, but against Soulkey his handling of the early and mid-game was key to his wins. SoO has such a broad range of skills that whatever weaknesses his opponent has will become apparent when playing him, no matter how minor they might seem. His style is chameleon like, shifting to exploit whatever aspect of the game his opponent might have a minor deficit in.

Fall Championship Outlook

While soO was barely a KeSPA player we heard of coming into the transition, his performance at MvP suggests he could be a very dangerous late bloomer. After overpowering some of the best players KeSPA had to offer in the MvP playoffs, you have to think that this MLG bracket looks easy in comparison (of course, it all depends on who comes through the open bracket). All of his potential opponents have notable weaknesses - Bomber: poor bio micro, First: terrible PvZ player, Scarlett: not-Korean, and so forth. Put it altogether, and soO should be the favorite to top this group.





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(Z)Soulkey

Name: Kim Min Chul
Birthdate: December 10th, 1991 (age 20)
Team: Woongjin Stars
Years Pro: 4

Notable Achievements: Tving OSL Ro16, ABC Mart MSL Ro16, PDPop MSL Ro16

MvP Regular Season Record:
      vs. NA: 22 - 2
      vs. EU: 11 - 1
      vs. KR (non-KeSPA): 6 - 4






Brood War Background

The TaekBaengLeeSsang (Bisu, Stork, Flash, Jaedong) are the most well-known Brood War pros among StarCraft II fans, and rightfully so – the quartet dominated much of the late 2000's leading up to StarCraft II's release. However, their hegemony could not last forever, and players began to challenge them in the last years of Brood War (new faces and resurgent veterans alike).

Soulkey impressed fans in the 2010's with his incredible defensive ability and creativity, becoming one of the best players in the Proleague and was touted by many as a future championship contender. Unfortunately for Soulkey, he could not live up to such expectations before pro-Brood War came to an end, finishing his BW career as a Proleague-only phenom.

Now, Soulkey has a new set of expectations to live up to. During the early transition period to StarCraft II, many of Soulkey's colleagues pointed him out as the best among the KeSPA players, reaching grandmaster while others were mired in high masters. With seeds in the GSL and MLG, Soulkey will attempt to realize his dreams in StarCraft II.

Road to Dallas
+ Show Spoiler [Detailed Stats] +
Results Season Stats

Overall: 41 - 7 (3rd in Proleague division)
ZvZ: 11 - 1
ZvT: 14 - 2
ZvP: 16 - 4

vs. NA
2-0 Caliber
2-0 Qxc
2-0 Sheth
2-0 Hawk
2-0 Idra
1-1 Vibe
2-0 Major
2-0 Select
1-1 Illusion
2-0 KawaiiRice
2-0 Sasquatch
2-0 Huk

vs. EU
2-0 Thorzain
2-0 Socke
2-0 grubby
1-1 Sase
2-0 Naniwa
2-0 Ret

vs .KR
2-0 Puma
1-1 Alive
1-1 Alicia
1-1 Oz
1-1 Crank
2-0 MC

Playoffs
4-1 vs Jaedong
4-1 vs hyvaa
3-4 vs SoO


Soulkey ended up in third place at the end of the regular season by absolutely dominating the North American and Europe divisions, winning over 90% of his games. He struggled slightly with the Protoss heavy Korean division, with four of his seven total losses coming against his non-KeSPA countrymen. However like Flash, Soulkey showed impressive consistency by not dropping more than one map to anyone in the regular season. Soulkey’s playoff run showcased excellent ZvZ play, with wins over both Jaedong and Hyvaa by 4 - 1 scores before losing to an on-fire SoO by 3 - 4.

Stylistic Analysis

Soulkey’s main strength is his infestor play. Soulkey has an uncanny ability to take battles by making infested Terrans the most important ability on the field, intelligently placing them in locations that make retreating difficult for his opponent. If the engagement calls for fungals, Soulkey makes sure he’s fighting in a location where they can have maximum impact. Seeing Soulkey lose an infestor is a rare occurrence as he’s very careful to always keep them in a safe location. When an infestor does go down it’s part of a calculated risk, ie. his Cloud Kingdom game vs. Crank where he came back from behind by getting repeated neural parasites on Crank’s mothership in multiple engagements, even if it cost him a few infestors each time. As seen in his playoff matches, his infestors are especially scary in the Zerg mirror where his ideal late-game composition seems to consist of pure infestors, using them both for engagements and for harass via nydus worms and drops.

Fall Championship Outlook

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Soulkey’s ZvZ proved to be exceptional during the MvP tournament, so while this group is exceptionally tough all-around, Soulkey is well prepared to deal with it. Life and Taeja will most likely be his biggest hurdles, with Life being a ZvZ ace player and Taeja being an all-around beast. I predict his ZvZ to give him a great shot at topping the group, with a win or loss vs. TaeJa likely to decide whether he can finish #1 or not. Bet on a top 3 finish for Soulkey for sure, but it’s up to his form on the day of the tournament to decide which of those spots he will take.








Writers: iS.Axslav and Waxangel
Graphics: Meko
Editor: Waxangel
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cekkmt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States352 Posts
November 01 2012 05:10 GMT
#2
God Young Ho fighting!!!!!
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
November 01 2012 05:13 GMT
#3
JESUS! Soulkey has a tough bracket! (aside: poor MajOr)
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
November 01 2012 05:16 GMT
#4
Gonna be a good weekend of no exercising
Refer to my post.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
November 01 2012 05:17 GMT
#5
Let's go soO!
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awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
November 01 2012 05:20 GMT
#6
So hoping Flash demolishes the comp.
I'm a noob
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
November 01 2012 05:22 GMT
#7
Maybe MLG will give us the Flash vs Rain finals we were all dreaming of for OSL.
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 05:24:31
November 01 2012 05:23 GMT
#8
I believe with the exception of Rain, GOM players should keep the upper hand in this tournament.

But his road is a lot harder going all the way through the Open bracket, where he might already meet Polt or MC.
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Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
November 01 2012 05:32 GMT
#9
Awwww you punks! I thought i was actually going to get to watch that game of Flash that you linked =(
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
November 01 2012 05:33 GMT
#10
On November 01 2012 14:16 Zenbrez wrote:
Gonna be a good weekend of no exercising

I heard that, time to slouch in bed and watch MLG!
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
November 01 2012 05:38 GMT
#11
Soulkey's bracket is pretty ridiculous.
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ThemBones
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark10 Posts
November 01 2012 05:47 GMT
#12
Excellent work, good sir!
Can't wait to see where it's at in 4-5 months time, some players, KR, NA or EU will be stepping down once this lot starts rolling!
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UrsusRex
Profile Joined July 2012
United States85 Posts
November 01 2012 05:49 GMT
#13
No write for MvP finals of Oz v Soo?
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Profile Joined October 2012
23 Posts
November 01 2012 05:50 GMT
#14
LOL poor soulkey..tough road ahead..
Fighting Spirit
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
November 01 2012 05:52 GMT
#15
On November 01 2012 14:49 UrsusRex wrote:
No write for MvP finals of Oz v Soo?


it didn't happen yet :D
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Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
November 01 2012 05:55 GMT
#16
Flash winning MLG would be so good.
DontNerfInfestors
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Spain280 Posts
November 01 2012 06:07 GMT
#17
Flash Rain finals!
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
DontNerfInfestors
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain280 Posts
November 01 2012 06:08 GMT
#18
Life fighting? Finals beetween Flash,Rain and Flah would be epic.
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
catleaves
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
November 01 2012 06:11 GMT
#19
woohoo! go soulkey!
^^
batterseapower
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom111 Posts
November 01 2012 07:04 GMT
#20
What a great article: thanks Axslav and Waxangel!
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
November 01 2012 07:16 GMT
#21
hoping for a flash win!!!!!!!!!
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Hong Kong25 Posts
November 01 2012 07:23 GMT
#22
all sick record
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 01 2012 07:30 GMT
#23
Thanks Axslav, a good write up for people that didn't see MvP and need to know what's coming this weekend.

I also think Waxangel did a good job of attaching his name to this story. (Kidding. I'm sure there were contributions from Waxangel, and I don't want to sound ungrateful for his ever insightful input.)

I think the match I would most love to see is Flash vs. MVP, but I don't think that's possible in Dallas.
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vanTuni
Profile Joined October 2009
389 Posts
November 01 2012 07:57 GMT
#24
I love the format of this. Excellent write up!
nocompromise
Profile Joined June 2011
13 Posts
November 01 2012 08:00 GMT
#25
Very well written article. Go Flash.
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Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
November 01 2012 08:01 GMT
#26
I can definetly see Oz beating both Hyvaa in Dallas and soO in MLG vs PL finals, hes one of GOMs most efficient KeSPa slayers (maybe cause they arent used to his unique builds) yet hardly gets credit for it
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jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
November 01 2012 08:07 GMT
#27
When I say Flash is already very good and can take it all I keep being downvoted on Reddit. Those guys don't know what's coming. Sick games are awaiting us in any case.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 01 2012 08:08 GMT
#28
Might pay for this just because of GOD.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
November 01 2012 08:11 GMT
#29
Great analysis. I'm really looking forward to this weekend
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Profile Joined September 2012
Australia191 Posts
November 01 2012 08:28 GMT
#30
Can Soulkey make it? He played his game last night and players like Rain left a day early so he could make it.
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
November 01 2012 09:12 GMT
#31
I think it is time for God to win another tournament.
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Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 01 2012 09:19 GMT
#32
Good article, I especially liked the stylistic analysis. Would like to see something like this again, maybe more emphasis on the analysis and less on the BW background. Thanks Axlav and Wax!
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
November 01 2012 09:21 GMT
#33
SKT going to screw up bets again. )
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Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
November 01 2012 09:41 GMT
#34
grubby vs flash ... what a baller
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Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
November 01 2012 09:45 GMT
#35
O.O grubby vs flash yes pls!
Jurg Jurg Jurg
raser
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 09:51:55
November 01 2012 09:51 GMT
#36
Grubby vs Flash, legend vs god!
readytorock
Profile Joined May 2012
129 Posts
November 01 2012 10:00 GMT
#37
Flash fighting!!!! hope he wins this!!
Wooooooooooooah!!!!!!!!!!
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Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
November 01 2012 10:01 GMT
#38
On November 01 2012 14:16 Zenbrez wrote:
Gonna be a good weekend of no exercising


I believe fist pumping counts as exercise.
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Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
November 01 2012 10:13 GMT
#39
Last bracket is insane.
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 11:00:25
November 01 2012 11:00 GMT
#40
Why give links to VODs that are behind the pay wall ?
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
November 01 2012 11:06 GMT
#41
Lee Young Ho Hwaitiiiing !!
rly ?
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
November 01 2012 11:26 GMT
#42
I don't think any foreigner will stand a chance this MLG. The Koreans will pretty much own anyone Hope NaNiWa can take some games tho!
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Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
November 01 2012 11:30 GMT
#43
Soulkey is truly in the group of death: Life, Taeja, TSL zerg, Violet..
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shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
November 01 2012 11:49 GMT
#44
thought the writeup could be more informative eg:

soo:

Widely considered the most hated zerg of all time to make the OSL semis through using unknown methods. Approximately 0.27% of the community cheered for him, mostly die-hard skt fans.

Flash:

Some of his talents include making missile turrets and forcing his opponents to exit the game before it even begins. Truly useful toi have.


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NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
November 01 2012 12:32 GMT
#45
On November 01 2012 15:07 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
Flash Rain finals!


Rain would just destroy him, no doubt !
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alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
November 01 2012 13:25 GMT
#46
Ax, love your analytical skills on the MvP casts, and thanks for this write-up.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 01 2012 13:34 GMT
#47
Wow, starting out with Grubby for Flash. I don't think Flash will win that one tbh.
tritonice
Profile Joined November 2010
United States119 Posts
November 01 2012 14:08 GMT
#48
"Zergs have proven to be Flash’s source of weakness with him being sometimes caught out of position and losing unnecessary amounts of troops to fungals."

We ladder Terrans feel your pain Flash, we ALL fell your pain.
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
November 01 2012 14:14 GMT
#49
On November 01 2012 22:34 ThomasjServo wrote:
Wow, starting out with Grubby for Flash. I don't think Flash will win that one tbh.


Flash beat Grubby 2-0 in MvP already lol
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 01 2012 14:16 GMT
#50
On November 01 2012 23:14 Steins;Gate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 22:34 ThomasjServo wrote:
Wow, starting out with Grubby for Flash. I don't think Flash will win that one tbh.


Flash beat Grubby 2-0 in MvP already lol

Haven't followed that tournament :X I'll just eat my words kthxbai. Still going with my gut on this one and my foreigner pride. I am a bit of a Grubby fanboy.
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
November 01 2012 14:32 GMT
#51
Soulkey did not impress in his code S group. Imo he was lucky to get out. If he has really monstrous ZvZ then he has a good chance at placing high but his ZvP did not make him stand out in my mind. Maybe it was just because he was playing hero though.
Northern_iight
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada363 Posts
November 01 2012 14:54 GMT
#52
toughest. MLG. ever.
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
November 01 2012 15:02 GMT
#53
manner axslav, major gonna win the group and own soulkey :D
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Svetgm
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada76 Posts
November 01 2012 15:23 GMT
#54
Major I pray for you.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
November 01 2012 15:49 GMT
#55
I would really like to see a Kespa vs Esf finals!
Lookin forward to a great weekend of games!
Cinquedea
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada144 Posts
November 01 2012 15:59 GMT
#56
Oh my, I can't wait for this! :D
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Pasargadae
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)173 Posts
November 01 2012 15:59 GMT
#57
On November 01 2012 23:16 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 23:14 Steins;Gate wrote:
On November 01 2012 22:34 ThomasjServo wrote:
Wow, starting out with Grubby for Flash. I don't think Flash will win that one tbh.


Flash beat Grubby 2-0 in MvP already lol

Haven't followed that tournament :X I'll just eat my words kthxbai. Still going with my gut on this one and my foreigner pride. I am a bit of a Grubby fanboy.


...but it's Flash :|
MrJoKer
Profile Joined November 2011
France232 Posts
November 01 2012 16:53 GMT
#58
I think that i will watch the entire MLG because this one is big.
@AbeggJip
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 16:56:40
November 01 2012 16:56 GMT
#59
Soulkey seems like he'd be the most intimidating kespa guy. Good infestor control is huge in the current metagame.
Does anyone know hoe he reacts to cheese?
Edit: *how he reacts to cheese?
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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
November 01 2012 17:27 GMT
#60
Soo is the scariest Zerg I have ever played ever. Such insane everything.
Also wassup hyvaa 23-1 na. Sup
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Bupalumpa
Profile Joined October 2012
Venezuela24 Posts
November 01 2012 17:30 GMT
#61
Soulkey bracket IS the group of death for sure.
And i think Flash has an easy bracket it would be very disappointing if he dint make first.
Everything changes when it find a purpose
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
November 01 2012 17:33 GMT
#62
Something to note is that SKMC shares his 'Min Chul' name with Soulkey.
Jjang Min Chul vs Kim Min Chul
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Kiwiandapple
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium240 Posts
November 01 2012 18:00 GMT
#63
Oki, Illusion went 1-1 to 3 off them, not bad :> that's what I checked first in this!
On topic: great to see those BW guys competing at great level allready!
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
November 01 2012 18:25 GMT
#64
Go hyvaa! =]
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VanSCPurge
Profile Joined November 2012
United States169 Posts
November 01 2012 18:55 GMT
#65
(aside: poor MajOr)



I agree, poor MajOr. He got hosed, drawing life in the first round. =/
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Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
November 01 2012 18:55 GMT
#66
Flash grubby will be awesome to watch, and soulkey vs. taeja!
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Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
November 01 2012 19:03 GMT
#67
If Flash wins this MLG i wouldnt be shocked but the again i would. i hope he does extremely well.
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nanoscorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1237 Posts
November 01 2012 19:23 GMT
#68
Go Soulkey! Thanks for the writeup. Spot on analysis of his play, that infestor control is so good. For a zerg fan who cringes seeing "fungal fungal fungal tank for my roach/ling thx" plays more often than necessary, the precise control and unit retention Soulkey displays is refreshing.
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
November 01 2012 19:23 GMT
#69
This is going to be an epic MLG thanks for the great write up guys~!
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Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
November 01 2012 19:33 GMT
#70
GOD YOUNG HO APPROACHING. Oblig.:
+ Show Spoiler [for mah boy, Flash ;-)] +


Flash should make it out of his group. SoO will only run into trouble, I think, if he has to face either Bomber or Scarlett, and I don't see either of them losing to Heart, so it's likely SoO will in fact run into said trouble. As for Soulkey, I predict he'll have to beat Taeja, and then Life to advance, which I unfortunately don't see happening....

Regardless of the odds, elephants fighting!!
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Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
November 01 2012 21:18 GMT
#71
Soulkey and Soo seems to have the toughest brackets :D
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
November 01 2012 21:46 GMT
#72
I would be so happy if Flash gets owned by Grubby.

Anyway Life has this tournament in the bag regardless.
Life: The New Champion!!
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
November 01 2012 22:23 GMT
#73
Good job Ax, really looking forward to this tournament.
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crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
November 01 2012 22:34 GMT
#74
nice article, good job hyping mlg ^^

Anyone know on top of their mind who's number one with proleague wins? I would've assumed flash but apparently he's #2
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
November 01 2012 22:55 GMT
#75
gogo flash! win it all! LEE YOUNG HO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 01 2012 23:08 GMT
#76
Now I'm excited to watch this! Not having a sick BW background, everybody except Flash was pretty much a no-name to me.
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 23:21:38
November 01 2012 23:15 GMT
#77
nvm
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SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 00:23:16
November 02 2012 00:23 GMT
#78
Holy shitcrumpets, Flash vs Grubby... true legends from two different games clashing in SC2. My mouth is almost watering at the thought. Sick.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
November 02 2012 00:25 GMT
#79
SO excited for flash
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Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
November 02 2012 01:47 GMT
#80
down with flash!

Go Life!
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Tremor
Profile Joined February 2010
United States92 Posts
November 02 2012 01:56 GMT
#81
Wow, I can't wait to see these guys in action at MLG Dallas
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Pasargadae
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)173 Posts
November 02 2012 03:18 GMT
#82
On November 02 2012 02:27 KawaiiRice wrote:
Soo is the scariest Zerg I have ever played ever. Such insane everything.
Also wassup hyvaa 23-1 na. Sup


Scariest terran you've ever played?
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
November 02 2012 04:16 GMT
#83
hahaha I just realized Idra went 3-45 in MvP

holy crap
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THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
November 02 2012 10:41 GMT
#84
Go Flash..
1handsomE
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States199 Posts
November 02 2012 17:15 GMT
#85
Looks like flash has the best record against non KeSPA koreans. To me that says he is the strongest of the 4.
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany673 Posts
November 03 2012 01:29 GMT
#86
On November 02 2012 13:16 Kergy wrote:
hahaha I just realized Idra went 3-45 in MvP

holy crap

his time is over dude, he will never shine agian, not with this influx of super pros.
i think even sasquatsch is better than him right now
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
November 03 2012 09:36 GMT
#87
On November 03 2012 02:15 1handsomE wrote:
Looks like flash has the best record against non KeSPA koreans. To me that says he is the strongest of the 4.


After yesterdays games im pretty sure he is. Rest of the overhyped elephants is not doing so well just now, but MLG is still young.
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