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[GSTL] Startale vs. LG-IM: Finals before Finals - Page 3

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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 02:07:49
October 27 2012 02:07 GMT
#41
T_T I'ma miss this, and this will probably be one of the most intense matches of the season, imo one of these 2 is gonna win it the whole thing.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 27 2012 02:24 GMT
#42
On October 27 2012 11:07 MCDayC wrote:
T_T I'ma miss this, and this will probably be one of the most intense matches of the season, imo one of these 2 is gonna win it the whole thing.


Agree, regardless of who wins here, there is a high probability we will get these 2 teams in the finals.
tylerf
Profile Joined March 2012
739 Posts
October 27 2012 03:00 GMT
#43
So pumped for this. Startale fighting~
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3834 Posts
October 27 2012 03:18 GMT
#44
PLAY AVENGE!
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
October 27 2012 03:22 GMT
#45
On October 27 2012 09:46 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 09:45 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
oh bs Fionn

IM is by far the best team in the world.


IM is the best collection of players in the world.

Startale is the best team in the world.


Startale team results: 2nd in GSTL, 2nd in GSTL
IM results: 1st in GSTL, 2nd in GSTL, 1st in IPL TAC.
IM even has more success in live team tournaments in which their coach is supposedly bad. How are they not the best when even in their weakest aspect they are superior to startale?
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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
October 27 2012 03:23 GMT
#46
On October 27 2012 10:26 Boiler Bandsman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 10:20 Dodgin wrote:
On October 27 2012 10:15 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 27 2012 10:02 Dodgin wrote:
On October 27 2012 09:57 Walnuts wrote:
On October 27 2012 09:53 Dodgin wrote:
On October 27 2012 09:46 Fionn wrote:
On October 27 2012 09:45 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
oh bs Fionn

IM is by far the best team in the world.


IM is the best collection of players in the world.

Startale is the best team in the world.


why? they have 0 team league gold medals

actually I take that back, they have one from like January 2011.

Probably becuase they are only really getting into the swing of things now. Parting is looking as strong as ever, they have a new super ace in life, squirtle can still beat just about anyone, expecially in a Bo1 format, curious has shown some super good play (beating MC and Marineking last GSL) and Bomber can still take at least a couple games off of any team.


sure you can make a case for them having a lot of strong players but I fail to see how you make the distinction between " the best collection of players " and " the best team " when Startale is clearly not the best team in terms of achievements, IM went 3-0 in the IPTL group stages and Startale went 2-1, IM also beat Startale 5-2 in IPL TAC3.

for every strong player on Startale IM has an equally strong player, they have more strong players even. Hell IM beat TSL in IPTL with only DreamerTT and True, the team has unmatched depth. Startale falls off a lot after their top 5 while IM does not, you can't field all their good players in one bo9 because they have too many.


That series meant zilch. TSL had nothing to fight for.


Ridiculous, they could have forfeited if they really didn't care, It's exposure for their players to an international audience.

They used their best lineup besides Symbol who was likely preparing for GSL ro8 at the time.


And Startale is on an entirely different level than TSL.

And I don't see how you go down the lineup and don't see a one-for-one advantage for Startale until you get to 7 or 8 deep, ESPECIALLY without Nestea and MvP.


The ratio of startale to TSL is a smaller ratio than the ratio of Seed/yonghwa/Losira/Happy to true/dreamertt.
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Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 04:10:37
October 27 2012 03:43 GMT
#47
On October 27 2012 12:22 Luepert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 09:46 Fionn wrote:
On October 27 2012 09:45 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
oh bs Fionn

IM is by far the best team in the world.


IM is the best collection of players in the world.

Startale is the best team in the world.


Startale team results: 2nd in GSTL, 2nd in GSTL
IM results: 1st in GSTL, 2nd in GSTL, 1st in IPL TAC.
IM even has more success in live team tournaments in which their coach is supposedly bad. How are they not the best when even in their weakest aspect they are superior to startale?
I believe the logic behind it is, that the skills and accomplishments of the IM players are so great, that it must be a lack of team ability that hinders them winning more, or something like that. And truth be told, IM players have dominated the individual leagues(with different players), whereas ST hasn't really, and has remained a force to be reckoned with in team league - in spite of not having as accomplished players - such as the IM team. This is my best offer to the logic behind it, and is often viewed as an acceptable reasoning for players of lesser skill, performing up to par with those of greater skills - or accomplishments, if you will in this particular case.

I do not share it, but there could be a minor truth to it. Especially in the light of that the coach you so speak of, does indeed take into consideration the players individual tasks at the individual league over the team effort - on the other hand that could also be translated into a plus of recognition of depth, and placing faith on the rest of the team.

The reason I do not really share it, is because that the team league is not really a team sport, and therefore the logic seems a bit far fetched, and is probably given by one that likes ST more than IM.

The prediction statements, I can only hope is a deliberate troll, or coming from someone loving ST, rather than being objective and in touch with some kind of validity to their claim. The reasoning was just - meh.
LiangHao
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
October 27 2012 04:16 GMT
#48
Startale fighting! The Kongtale curse has been defeated and Startale has new LIFE!(see what I did there?)

Startale 5-2 IM
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
AntKeyyy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2 Posts
October 27 2012 11:36 GMT
#49
So... Parting with the all kill. Wow.
zOverdose
Profile Joined October 2012
Korea (South)8 Posts
October 27 2012 14:17 GMT
#50
Startale is going to rip LG-IM to pieces without problem.. Startale 5-2 LG-IM.
Grandmaster Zerg Player l [ Z - Life, Symbol, YellOw, Leenock ] [ P - Creator, JangBi, By. Rain, Genius ] [ T - Flash, Fantasy, Mvp, MKP ]
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
October 28 2012 00:59 GMT
#51
On October 27 2012 10:16 Gamegene wrote:
I would love it if Illusion somehow got played. He said he actually has a winning record for the in house ranking games.

Not in the ranking games, just practice games. They haven't had ranking games in a while to prepare for gstl/gsl
www.twitter.com/rootillusion & www.facebook.com/illusionsc2
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 28 2012 10:26 GMT
#52
On October 27 2012 09:46 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 09:45 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
oh bs Fionn

IM is by far the best team in the world.


IM is the best collection of players in the world.

Startale is the best team in the world.


This is the truest thing you have ever said.
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
October 28 2012 15:46 GMT
#53
Parting :D
maru G5L pls
xHISOKA
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2 Posts
October 28 2012 21:24 GMT
#54
when are the games playing and which website?
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