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October 3rd, 2012 02:14 GMT
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Code A Ro48: Day 3 Recap


By: Porcelina


Results from Live Report Thread by Shellshock1122.

+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Salmosa vs. Sirius
Salmosa <Entombed Valley> (Z)Sirius
Salmosa <Whirlwind> (Z)Sirius
Salmosa <Abyssal City> (Z)Sirius

Sirius wins 2-0!

KeeN vs. inori
(T)KeeN <Abyssal City> (P)inori
(T)KeeN <Antiga Shipyard> (P)inori
(T)KeeN <Ohana> (P)inori

KeeN wins 2-0!

YuGiOh vs. BoguS
(Z)YugiOh <Whirlwind> (T)Bogus
(Z)YugiOh <Ohana> (T)Bogus
(Z)YugiOh <Abyssal City> (T)Bogus

Bogus wins 2-1!

Oz vs. Trap
(P)Oz <Entombed Valley> (P)Trap
(P)Oz <Abyssal City> (P)Trap
(P)Oz <Cloud Kingdom> (P)Trap

Trap wins 2-0!



TheStC vs. BBoongBBoong
(T)TheStC <Abyssal City> (Z)BBoongBBoong
(T)TheStC <Cloud Kingdom> (Z)BBoongBBoong
(T)TheStC <Daybreak> (Z)BBoongBBoong

BBoongBBoong wins 2-1!

NesTea vs. Sparta
(Z)NesTea <Antiga Shipyard> (T)Sparta
(Z)NesTea <Daybreak> (T)Sparta
(Z)NesTea <Whirlwind> (T)Sparta

Sparta wins 2-1!

Bomber vs. BaBy
(T)Bomber <Ohana> (T)BaBy
(T)Bomber <Abyssal City> (T)BaBy
(T)Bomber <Whirlwind> (T)BaBy

Bomber wins 2-1!

SuHoSin vs. Terminator
(Z)SuHoSin <Entombed Valley> (P)Terminator
(Z)SuHoSin <Ohana> (P)Terminator
(Z)SuHoSin <Daybreak> (P)Terminator

Terminator wins 2-0!


Also sprach Sparta
– (T)ST_Sparta defeats (Z)LG-IM_NesTea, knocking him out of the GSL altogether.


A lot can be said about Nestea. A lot has been said about Nestea. While Mvp is the most successful GSL competitor of all time, Nestea is perhaps the most iconic. Perhaps it was the transition from Zergbong to Code S champion, the undisputed lord of Zerg that created the mystery around him? Maybe it was because more than any player, Nestea benefited from Artosis' endearing love of hyperbole. In any case, Nestea is the symbol of the GSL. Not only was an award created in his name to reward ten consecutive Code S appearances, he maintained this pristine record of appearances while also winning three championships.

On the other hand, Sparta is mostly a blank page when it comes to StarCraft II, and a complete one in the GSL. He has never recorded the kind of out-of-spotlight results in non-televised games that can hype up a player for his Code A debut. He came in as an average progamer at best, with scattered appearances in EWM, KSL and the ESV Korean Weekly, never showing more than what one could expect of a former ZeNEX b-teamer.

In Code A, Sparta would face off with a wounded predator. To say that Nestea’s results have been disappointing since being knocked out by Byun in season three would be an understatement and fail to acknowledge his dominance over a long time. But worse than the results was his rapidly deteriorating gameplay since Byun's three bunker block on his ramp worked to the surprise of everyone. Still, given his history in the GSL, predicting him to go out to Sparta seemed comical.

What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives.

It certainly started out looking like Nestea was not ready to go. On Antiga Shipyard, Sparta cleverly engineered a four barracks play, carefully stopping any scouting and even put up a gas in his natural for Nestea’s overlord to see. But the attack was deflected in a way worthy of Nestea’s reputation; having just built eleven drones when the marines and scv pull came, he used a beautiful drone drill to isolate the marines and win with his nearly blind three base opening and false information.

However, games two and three were perfect examples of the Nestea that sadly, could not cut it in the GSL. He would have a perfectly good early and midgame, only to be torn apart by Sparta’s multitasking and active army movements. Even being given huge leads going into the lategame, Nestea would fail yet again to capitalize, taking bad positional fights, not defending drops or multi-pronged aggression. You could see his fall from grace compressed into just two games.

Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us?

Sparta looked fairly solid, but unless he has hidden depths, knocking Nestea out of the GSL is probably going to be the defining moment of his career. For Nestea, it is time to decide what to do. Not only does his play seem underwhelming against borderline Code A players, the onslaught of KeSPA players says something must change for him. It can be speculated that Nestea needs the game to be relatively unexplored to shine; if that is the case, a re-emergence may be on the cards for Heart of the Swarm. However, his late game looks too susceptible to exploitation by more mechanically gifted players to make this a reality.

God is dead.

The question is whether God will remain dead.


Something is rotten in the state of SlayerS
– (T)STX_Bogus defeats the King of Code A, knocking (Z)SlayerS_YugiOh out of the tournament.[/b]

This above all: to thine self be true.

On the day God died, the King did not fare much better. It was a matchup of clashing constants; the King of Code A never dies (well he did once, but he bounced back in time for no-one to really notice) in the first round of Code A, maintaining constant participation in the second level of competition and creating a need for a Yugioh award. On the other hand, Yugioh has looked like the player most shaken by the introduction of KeSPA players to the professional StarCraft II player pool. In WCS Korea, he looked to be completely off his game when faced with this new breed of competitor, to the point where it looked almost sad.

In Bogus vs. Yugioh, something had to give. The first game looked like it would go a long way to cement the SlayerS Zerg’s reputation and prowess in Code A, taking a quick victory when Bogus did not react well to an all-in. However, when the games went into the mid and lategame in the following two, we were again faced with Yugioh, the shakiest player in GSL. Bogus played a solid game, the type of game we have come to expect from the second string KeSPA players, and Yugioh was completely unable to keep up.

When sorrows come, they come not single spies, but in battalions

Whereas Nestea has his streak irrevocably broken, at least Yugioh stands the chance of keeping his alive with a re-qualification through the preliminaries. However, he absolutely must break the spell KeSPA players seem to have over him. While the situation between eSF and KeSPA looks to be anything but resolved, if we see another Code A preliminaries full of elephants, we may very well not get to see the King of Code A return to his rightful spot in Code A round of 48 in season five.

The Endless Stampede
– With (P)Trap defeating (P)FnaticRC Oz and Terminator defeating (Z)ST_Suhosin, more shots are fired.

It is difficult not to feel for Oz. In what seems a long time ago, he was the premier candidate to be the top Protoss in the GSL. Of course, we all know about his dismal fall from PvP grace following his statement about the skill based nature of the matchup. But with players such as HerO showing that you can have success in Code S in spite of having bad results in the matchup, it is still strange to witness just how far Oz has fallen.

Against Trap, he once again came out very much behind in the war of build orders. Trap never looked to be in danger. When he was contained by Oz in game one, he made all the right decisions, broke out and never looked back. In game two, Oz opted for a dark templar play that got shut down with brute efficiency. Oz’ play has looked inconsistent for a long time now, but with recent GSL and GSTL results, it has taken a turn for the worse. Trap on the other hand looked extremely comfortable in everything he did; proving that the seed he was granted by KeSPA was deserved.

The other KeSPA victory came in the form of Terminator beating Suhosin. Terminator, née Sang, is not the kind of player one would think inherently susceptible to the cheese and shenanigans of the part time Startale pro, and made it look relatively easy in advancing. While Suhosin had a very cute plan on Entombed Valley, building and cancelling a hatch at Terminator’s natural to spread creep, he was not able to successfully build a spine crawler and reinforce the contain. Trying to combat falling behind, he built a hidden expansion, but when it was scouted he was outclassed. Game two gave us a small blast from the past where Zergs were unable to stand up to normal Colossus timings and the KeSPA Protoss had claimed his first victory in Code A.

A Tale of two (plus one) Cities
– In the non-KeSPA matches, (Z)FXOSirius, (Z)BBoongBBoongPrime and (T)MVP.KeeN advance over (Z)SalmosaPrime, (T)Quantic.TheStC and (P)TSL_inori.

The six eSF players involved on the day can easily be put into two distinct categories: The ones with experience in the GSL and those without. But with how the bracket worked out, Salmosa vs. Sirius contained two of the latter, BBoongBBoong vs. TheStC two of the former and Inori vs. Keen split it up between the two.

Opening up the day of Code A action was Salmosa and Sirius. Both Zerg players lack a long resume when it comes to the GSL, but Sirius is relatively well known, being one of those players one would always see doing well enough in Code A preliminaries but never truly making a splash into the actual tournament. Salmosa meanwhile might be best known for his interview upon securing his Code A spot, becoming known for his love of alcohol. The games were fairly standard, with Sirius not surprisingly being better at everything he did, securing an easy 2-0 win to advance to the next round and secure his participation for the next season of GSL.

Inori vs. Keen was similarly one-sided. As much as Keen might struggle with premier Protosses, he has shown a knack for beating players not quite on his level. Inori was never really able to compete with the MVP player, his macro not on the same level and with Keen able to always take the more favorable engagement. Keen is nothing if not an interesting player to follow, and the games certainly contained some plays that could feature well in a highlight reel. Perhaps the best contender would be his ghost flank of the Protoss forces in game two on Antiga Shipyard, where he broke Inori’s hold on the middle of the map, sending in a small attack into a templar based army then emp’ing the enemy forces liberally as the TSL player had to reposition.

The final eSF vs. eSF battle came between two players who have been on the brink of becoming Code S mainstays for a long time; BBoongBboong and TheStC. As one might suspect from looking at the accomplishments of the players, this was also the most even and action-filled of the three matches. Whereas TheStC was able to absolutely crush B4 on Cloud Kingdom in game two, the Prime player came out triumphant. TheStC has always had an interesting way of playing out his TvZ games, with aggression and more aggression in the midgame. B4 combated him in kind, with very thin defenses but ultimately building up through small victories and economical harassment.

It may feel sad to see TheStC depart from the GSL proper. Through his play we have seen the makings of a great Terran player, but we have never seen him blossom as many expected during the beta of SC2. On the other hand, B4 is a fine player to follow as he continues his bid to re-qualify for Code S; while his nerves seem to get the best of him almost as often as Protoss do, he has shown that within him is a player who has a lot to offer.

The Last Stand of eSF (for right now)
– (T)ST_Bomber defends the eSF honor, taking out (T)8_BaBy 2-1 to ensure his continued GSL existence.


In terms of quality and expectation, the highlight of the day came in the form of Bomber and Baby. Bomber has made a fine bid at becoming the most underperforming and inconsistent player in the league – once thought to be a lock for a future championship, he has mixed his brilliance with an unerring ability to lose when he should not. Baby made a real name for himself in the world of SC2 beating Mvp comprehensively in WCG Korea when the whole eSF vs. KeSPA situation was still new and it was still not clear just how it would play out.

In its own fascinating way, the series played out how we have seen many other eSF vs. KeSPA matchups have before. There are three major ways to play out mirrors; one is for both players to choose different styles, one is for both players to play in the same way and the last is for cheese to decide it all. It has been seen more than a few times before that KeSPA players often excel at the second category while struggling with the other two.

Bomber certainly looked to be the superior player in the first game. Baby was never really able to make his marauder heavy strategy pay dividends –it was a bit like seeing Mvp dismantle Polt back in the day. Ohana is known for lending itself nicely to mech, and Bomber abused Baby’s lack of space to dominate map control and setting up favorable engagements whenever the two went head to head.

Game two saw both play bio however, and the sheer mechanics of Baby got to shine. With no difference in composition, his upgrades and tank positioning let him come back from what could have been a disastrous attack on his third to soundly take us to game three.

As it turns out, Bomber had no intention of playing out a third macro game. With Whirlwind being what it is; a map that inherently rewards the greedier player, he punished Baby’s command center first build with proxy double raxx, and met next to no resistance as he laid claim to the valued ticket to the round of 32.






Writer: Porcelina.
Graphics and Art: Meko.
Editors: Waxangel.
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HanClan
Profile Joined April 2012
Korea (South)22 Posts
October 03 2012 02:19 GMT
#2
First one to comment!

Sad to see Nestea fail D:

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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28087 Posts
October 03 2012 02:21 GMT
#3
Nice, Bomber doing well. Too bad Baby is out though, he is one of the Kespa guys I wanted to win. Also, Oz losing 2-0 doesn't make me very confident in his OSL games tonight.lol
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OSM.OneManArmy
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United States509 Posts
October 03 2012 02:23 GMT
#4
Yeah bomber!!! Surprised STC lost though
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
October 03 2012 02:23 GMT
#5
Code A is just ruthless these days.. saddening to see who has to get knocked out this season
Refer to my post.
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
October 03 2012 02:23 GMT
#6
As much as I want Nestea to come back I think he may just retire. He would make a great coach
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Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 03 2012 02:25 GMT
#7
On October 03 2012 11:14 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Also sprach Sparta
– (T)ST_Sparta defeats (Z)LG-IM_NesTea, knocking him out of the GSL altogether.

I don't know who on staff is responsible for thinking up the title there, but whoever you are, you're fucking brilliant.
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LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
October 03 2012 02:27 GMT
#8
Dang, sad to see Stc go ! Also sad for the king of code A! All the people i was rooting for were knocked out haha.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28087 Posts
October 03 2012 02:29 GMT
#9
On October 03 2012 11:25 Archas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 11:14 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Also sprach Sparta
– (T)ST_Sparta defeats (Z)LG-IM_NesTea, knocking him out of the GSL altogether.

I don't know who on staff is responsible for thinking up the title there, but whoever you are, you're fucking brilliant.

I would assume Porcelina made it up, considering that the writer credit is given to him.
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
October 03 2012 02:30 GMT
#10
Poor nestea..he went from ro8 code S player to out of the GSL....
What will artosis do?
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Profile Joined March 2011
United States65 Posts
October 03 2012 02:31 GMT
#11
Congratulations to Bomber, the unofficial world champion!
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Canada16217 Posts
October 03 2012 02:36 GMT
#12
All kings must die. Happy for Bomber.
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
October 03 2012 02:58 GMT
#13
Great writeup as always.

Last season no one fell straight from Code S to Code B. This season, 5 of the 8 Code S players in the Ro48 lost.
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Sweden983 Posts
October 03 2012 03:05 GMT
#14
A new age of SC2 is on the rise.
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China133 Posts
October 03 2012 03:05 GMT
#15
Seeing Bomber succeed is like having sex multiple times throughout the night; it just gets better and better.
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Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
October 03 2012 03:06 GMT
#16
Nestea as a future IM coach ?
I mean even with HoTS coming up, i doubt his mechanics end game can keep up.

And Bomber always manages to suprise in one way or the other, as a liquidbet Bomber is simply a nightmare to bet on, unless you just coinflip.
Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
October 03 2012 03:24 GMT
#17
I would really like to know what has happened to NesTea. His fall is almost as if he can no longer win against the players who now use raw multitasking to beat him. Is he just too old/slow to play anymore, or is he having other problems that once he resolves will allow him to dominate again?

NesTea was the GSL for me, and now I am very sad. Long live the god zerg.
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Mask DeMasque
Profile Joined February 2012
United States415 Posts
October 03 2012 03:35 GMT
#18
Tastosis's non stop blathering about Nestea in some games really made me hate Nestea... but I will be sad that I have no one to hate for beating MKP in game 7 so many seasons ago.
Perchloric
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil163 Posts
October 03 2012 03:43 GMT
#19
GSL will be much less interesting without Nestea.
StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
October 03 2012 03:47 GMT
#20
When Artosis is casting Nestea playing, it encapsulates everything that is good and right about this game.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 03 2012 03:47 GMT
#21
nice write up, anyone have the score for kespa vs esf in code a?(map/ game wins)
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IhateBunkers
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand78 Posts
October 03 2012 03:51 GMT
#22
NOOOOOO not NESTEA!!!

Hope he re-qualifies for Code A next season but I'm doubtful especially with the increasing skills of the Kespa players. Hope it isn't the last we see of him.
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Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
October 03 2012 03:52 GMT
#23
As the game is heading more and more toward mechanic play it will be more harder for Nestea. Quite sad really.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
October 03 2012 03:54 GMT
#24
On October 03 2012 12:24 Antimatterz wrote:
I would really like to know what has happened to NesTea. His fall is almost as if he can no longer win against the players who now use raw multitasking to beat him. Is he just too old/slow to play anymore, or is he having other problems that once he resolves will allow him to dominate again?

NesTea was the GSL for me, and now I am very sad. Long live the god zerg.

i just feel like the caliber of his opponents have gotten better while he has been fairly static.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 03 2012 04:00 GMT
#25
On October 03 2012 12:54 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 12:24 Antimatterz wrote:
I would really like to know what has happened to NesTea. His fall is almost as if he can no longer win against the players who now use raw multitasking to beat him. Is he just too old/slow to play anymore, or is he having other problems that once he resolves will allow him to dominate again?

NesTea was the GSL for me, and now I am very sad. Long live the god zerg.

i just feel like the caliber of his opponents have gotten better while he has been fairly static.

It's more that the game is more mapped out now, the games go longer and the maps are bigger whilst he's still running on zergbong mechanics.
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StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
October 03 2012 04:24 GMT
#26
On October 03 2012 13:00 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 12:54 sc14s wrote:
On October 03 2012 12:24 Antimatterz wrote:
I would really like to know what has happened to NesTea. His fall is almost as if he can no longer win against the players who now use raw multitasking to beat him. Is he just too old/slow to play anymore, or is he having other problems that once he resolves will allow him to dominate again?

NesTea was the GSL for me, and now I am very sad. Long live the god zerg.

i just feel like the caliber of his opponents have gotten better while he has been fairly static.

It's more that the game is more mapped out now, the games go longer and the maps are bigger whilst he's still running on zergbong mechanics.


Yeah, you are right. Sadly, as the game develops, there will be less and less room for smart players like Nestea. He might surge at the beginning of each expansion, but I would expect it to be nothing more than a flash in the pan. Once smart players like Nestea figure out the game, the mechanical beasts that follow are true masters of the game.
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Soloturtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada333 Posts
October 03 2012 04:24 GMT
#27
Well, at least Bomber's not gone.
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DeCoder
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland236 Posts
October 03 2012 04:33 GMT
#28
On October 03 2012 12:24 Antimatterz wrote:
I would really like to know what has happened to NesTea. His fall is almost as if he can no longer win against the players who now use raw multitasking to beat him. Is he just too old/slow to play anymore, or is he having other problems that once he resolves will allow him to dominate again?

NesTea was the GSL for me, and now I am very sad. Long live the god zerg.


As the TL writers suggested, when the game becomes more mature, the understanding of the game improves among players and leads to better decision making, therefore making Nestea's key advantage less relevant.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
October 03 2012 04:41 GMT
#29
Congrats to Bomber and Sparta.
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soiii
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany266 Posts
October 03 2012 04:51 GMT
#30

Still, given his history and with his history in the GSL

Flaw spotted in this otherwise very well writen article :-)
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
October 03 2012 04:54 GMT
#31
Nestea ;_;

Even SuHoSin... he made GSL fun ;_;

...the times, they are a-changing
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
October 03 2012 05:27 GMT
#32
i remember watching nestea in the second gsl competition, it was just as i started to play starcraft. Although i was a terran player i really enjoyed watching his games. It's sad to see him go but i hope he can either re-qualify or stay active in sc2 in another way.
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blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
October 03 2012 05:47 GMT
#33
Sad to see Nestea get totally bounced.

Really surprised with how quickly the Kespa players are taking out the GSL pros, but glad that at least Bomber could stay alive.
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KiaOra
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand12 Posts
October 03 2012 06:01 GMT
#34
Note that this means that Leenock will win Code S. Nestea is no longer needed because Leenock will become the new Nestea, As prophecies fortold.
Butcherski
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland446 Posts
October 03 2012 06:03 GMT
#35
So i open a Code A topic with an intriguing name and the fist bolded thing i see is a spoiler from the one game i was looking forward to watching.

Please fit "recap" somewhere in the title next time.
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the_business_og
Profile Joined April 2012
United States167 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 06:23:16
October 03 2012 06:22 GMT
#36
damn the elephants are fucking stampeding
shanti
MuATaran
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada231 Posts
October 03 2012 06:29 GMT
#37
I can't say I even considered Nestea losing to Sparta, I have seen some of his play from Korean weeklys and such, and he looked good, but it really was surprising to see him win. Sad to see baby go out as well, maybe if Bomber would stop dropping mules the second he feels ahead he would be a little bit consistent...
"Our Banshees will blot out the Sun! ... Then we shall Stim in the Shade." - Doa
JuiceBoxHero
Profile Joined January 2011
117 Posts
October 03 2012 06:45 GMT
#38
Bomber looked good mentally during those games. Whenever the camera cut to him he looked comically blank and emotionless. Also he didnt drop 50 mules way to early or do any of his normal manner junk. I know Marineking mentioned hed been working on his mental game a lot and Bomber is another player who would be great if he could just solve the head games. Or he'll just sabotage himself in the next round, it is Bomber after all
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
October 03 2012 07:16 GMT
#39
Man, Nestea's clutch hold in the first game only to be followed by ZergBong level late games in match 2 and 3 were incredibly devastating to watch as a NesTea fan.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
October 03 2012 07:25 GMT
#40
Noooooooooo Nesteaaaaaa =(((
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
October 03 2012 07:43 GMT
#41
Gameplay, fanhype, and artosis made Nestea. the same ingredient can just make another ....

never was a fan of nestea, even if i think he was a great player, some time ago.
LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1891 Posts
October 03 2012 08:14 GMT
#42
nice reference in that sparta vs nestea title but really sad to see nestea falling down to code b, since nestea is one of the last remaining old ones (if not the last)
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 03 2012 08:14 GMT
#43
Holy shit these game titles were beyond brilliant.

Also sprach Sparta blew my mind
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 03 2012 08:42 GMT
#44
On October 03 2012 17:14 Creager wrote:
nice reference in that sparta vs nestea title but really sad to see nestea falling down to code b, since nestea is one of the last remaining old ones (if not the last)


MVP??MKP??MC??...............
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 10:48:58
October 03 2012 10:46 GMT
#45
Seeing Nestea fall was very painful. In the first game, he proved why he is Nesfookingtea, holding that all-in. The other two games were good, too; but not good enough from Nestea's side.

There was a time when no-one could touch him and he delivered a perfect season without a single map lost. There was a time when he inspired John to speak his mind.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
October 03 2012 11:25 GMT
#46
God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?
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Chengakz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States163 Posts
October 03 2012 12:35 GMT
#47
There's a feel that Nestea's retiring, the way people are talking..and honestly it feels like it. He's the only Zerg Ive ever really liked.
For Aiur!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 12:38:10
October 03 2012 12:35 GMT
#48
On October 03 2012 12:24 Antimatterz wrote:
I would really like to know what has happened to NesTea. His fall is almost as if he can no longer win against the players who now use raw multitasking to beat him. Is he just too old/slow to play anymore, or is he having other problems that once he resolves will allow him to dominate again?

NesTea was the GSL for me, and now I am very sad. Long live the god zerg.


I've said it before but I honestly question whether he puts much into the game anymore. Yeah sure he doesn't have the greatest mechanics, but as someone who watched his games religiously from the early days his decision making is just bad now (mostly in ZvT). Which is sad, as that was what was originally considered to be his greatest attribute and what won me over as a fan. If anything, what seems to affect his speed is his ineptitude of game flow in the later stages. He's also said in past that he becomes overly anxious as the game goes on, which might explain the totally crap engagements (this lost him his lead big time last night on Whirlwind).

Even with bad mechanics there's no reason why you:

- don't have important tech in more intelligent places

- mass ultras with nothing else, ESPECIALLY if you're in a low economy situation with terran like he did last night (closed the stream soon as I saw pure ultra). It's just never going to work.

- skimp heavily on the static defense, or perhaps utilize patrolling banes or even lings.

It's like Nestea keeps dying to the same crap and doesn't even bother to try and adapt anymore and seems a little behind in some aspects of the metagame. Still my favorite player though, until another brilliant Zerg appears to inspire me ;;

I was on the rebound with Symbol but he keeps breaking my heart when the going gets tough -_- and he's not on IM either.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Lixo
Profile Joined May 2011
202 Posts
October 03 2012 14:32 GMT
#49
To people saying Artosis made Nestea, do not forget he was awarded with the fan favorite player award in Korea, where people do not watch games commentated by Artosis.
He truly is a handsome nerd.
peiopeio
Profile Joined August 2011
France20 Posts
October 03 2012 15:34 GMT
#50
If anything, Nestea made Artosis. And everyone else. And the universe too !
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
October 03 2012 16:28 GMT
#51
wat ._. NesTea is out of the GSL? Dang. I just died a little inside.... ;_; I still see him as a bit of an elephant. I've faith in my God. He'll be back one day.

Holy gravy, that's a lot of old regulars getting knocked out of Code A. Where the heck did these new faces come from??
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
October 03 2012 17:02 GMT
#52
On October 03 2012 13:33 DeCoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 12:24 Antimatterz wrote:
I would really like to know what has happened to NesTea. His fall is almost as if he can no longer win against the players who now use raw multitasking to beat him. Is he just too old/slow to play anymore, or is he having other problems that once he resolves will allow him to dominate again?

NesTea was the GSL for me, and now I am very sad. Long live the god zerg.


As the TL writers suggested, when the game becomes more mature, the understanding of the game improves among players and leads to better decision making, therefore making Nestea's key advantage less relevant.

He just completely stopped developing his play more than a year ago. He heavily outplayed Sparta in the early to mid stages of the game with his muta/baneling play but he's never learned anything more.
Back when he was still winning championships, that was basicly the only strat people knew. Terrans learned to not die to that so zergs stopped relying on it. Except Nestea for some reason... :/
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
October 03 2012 17:04 GMT
#53
Since Nestea also created the GSL, he cannot ever be truly out (as long as he don't wakes up.)
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 03 2012 17:49 GMT
#54
On October 03 2012 17:42 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 17:14 Creager wrote:
nice reference in that sparta vs nestea title but really sad to see nestea falling down to code b, since nestea is one of the last remaining old ones (if not the last)


MVP??MKP??MC??...............


And ByuN, Polt, Genius

Even Taeja... and Maru was in Open 1
It's really strange to think Maru as an old player but he has been around for forever in SC2 term.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
October 03 2012 18:55 GMT
#55
I had been hoping for a miracle for a while now, that somehow Nestea would return to his former glory and take his fourth title. Unfortunately, Nestea's fall was long and precipitous, and with each passing day the odds of his triumphant return decreased.
Now, it seems God is indeed dead. Personally, I don't expect him to return. He's old, and more importantly, he himself thinks he's old. He has a girlfriend, too. Odds are, his motivation is in the gutter. He may even retire.
Even if he doesn't, I don't expect him to return to his former glory, or anywhere near it. The God of Zerg we knew and loved is dead.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
October 03 2012 18:58 GMT
#56
Wooohooo ! ^_^

As a huge bomber fan, I gave up betting with reason and letting my heart vote (well, when it's not completely obvious... right ?)

This time, it feels really good !

Will keep an eye on Baby, definitely an interesting player to watch.
LiquipediaWanderer
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 03 2012 19:22 GMT
#57
On October 04 2012 03:58 Ragnarork wrote:
Wooohooo ! ^_^

As a huge bomber fan, I gave up betting with reason and letting my heart vote (well, when it's not completely obvious... right ?)

This time, it feels really good !

Will keep an eye on Baby, definitely an interesting player to watch.


BaBy is a player that while have good mechanisms, seems to me slow at adapting SC2 build / strategies, at least compare to some other KeSPA players.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
October 03 2012 19:47 GMT
#58
I appreciate the Nietzsche references. Well done porcelina.
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Cove
Profile Joined March 2011
United States67 Posts
October 03 2012 19:49 GMT
#59
Good to see the ranks being shaken, to be honest. I hope after some blunt force trauma from the KeSPA players, eSFers will realize they need to step their shit up and into shape to retain their honor.
Conny Duck
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria90 Posts
October 03 2012 20:15 GMT
#60
There must be a huge mistage in this article. It says Nestea is out. I dont think that is compatible with reality.
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
October 03 2012 20:24 GMT
#61
Excellent use of Nietzsche and Shakespeare quotes.
hmm... let's think about it
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
October 03 2012 20:54 GMT
#62
On October 03 2012 11:25 Archas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 11:14 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Also sprach Sparta
– (T)ST_Sparta defeats (Z)LG-IM_NesTea, knocking him out of the GSL altogether.

I don't know who on staff is responsible for thinking up the title there, but whoever you are, you're fucking brilliant.


i am german and i dont get it O_o
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
October 03 2012 21:12 GMT
#63
On October 04 2012 05:54 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 11:25 Archas wrote:
On October 03 2012 11:14 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Also sprach Sparta
– (T)ST_Sparta defeats (Z)LG-IM_NesTea, knocking him out of the GSL altogether.

I don't know who on staff is responsible for thinking up the title there, but whoever you are, you're fucking brilliant.


i am german and i dont get it O_o

Do you know what anarchy means?
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 22:22:33
October 03 2012 22:19 GMT
#64
On October 04 2012 05:54 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 11:25 Archas wrote:
On October 03 2012 11:14 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Also sprach Sparta
– (T)ST_Sparta defeats (Z)LG-IM_NesTea, knocking him out of the GSL altogether.

I don't know who on staff is responsible for thinking up the title there, but whoever you are, you're fucking brilliant.


i am german and i dont get it O_o


it's a pun on nietzsche's "also sprach zarathustra" for the often quoted "god is dead" part. it is brilliant indeed.

I still can't get over the fact that TheSTC was @ Dreamhack Valencia Semis like 10 days ago, and now he's kicked out of Code A. Anarchy suits Korean SC2 very well.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1891 Posts
October 04 2012 14:26 GMT
#65
On October 04 2012 02:49 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 17:42 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 03 2012 17:14 Creager wrote:
nice reference in that sparta vs nestea title but really sad to see nestea falling down to code b, since nestea is one of the last remaining old ones (if not the last)


MVP??MKP??MC??...............


And ByuN, Polt, Genius

Even Taeja... and Maru was in Open 1
It's really strange to think Maru as an old player but he has been around for forever in SC2 term.


With old I literally meant their age (JulyZerg, BoxeR etc.)
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
October 04 2012 15:19 GMT
#66
You gotta love Porcelina's style.
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
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