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[GSTL] Prelims - NS HoSeo vs Fnatic RC

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[GSTL] Prelims - NS HoSeo vs Fnatic RC

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September 14th, 2012 23:28 GMT

Table of Contents





Prelimaries, Match Two
Intro


NS HoSeo vs FnaticRC
Preview


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Introduction



LG-IM finally got the most out of their packed roster, slaughtering FnaticRC and NS HoSeo to get past the preliminaries. Now, the LG-IM's victims are tied at 0 - 1, and fighting in an elimination match. It's not so much a match about who will be IN the GSTL, but a match about who will be OUT, and unofficially the worst team. Pride is on the line tonight.

NS HoSeo

Fnatic RC



by Fionn

This match tonight really isn't about Fnatic RaidCall. They're a very solid, good team with a few under performing core members (Alive and Oz), but they have a stable squad with marketable players and various trips to foreign tournaments. You'll never mistake them for LG-IM or Startale, but they have the capability of upsetting a few teams here and there, making a run into the top six. Even if they do lose tonight, you will still be seeing Oz, Alive and Moon traveling the world, playing in MLG's and other foreign tournaments.

For New Star HoSeo, this is it. If they lose tonight, the only player you'll be seeing from them in the next few month is jjakji in this season's Code A, and with a difficult draw against one of the tougher KeSPA players, Woongjin's Shy, the team HoSeo might be extinct from every competition in the world. You won't be seeing any of their players at an upcoming MLG or one of the various European tournaments. With their recent departures and woes, all they truly have left is this GSTL season and the glimmer of hope that is jjakji making it back into Code S.

Just so you can realize the magnitude of how bad of shape HoSeo is in, let's look at some of the players who have left their team recently.

(P)Sage: You can say that he was too hyped up by Artosis and was nothing more but a very smart, but extremely average fringe Code A/Code B player. Thing is, Sage was HoSeo's captain and right hand man to their coach. If you saw them picking who was coming out next or what to do, Sage would be consulting with the coach and helping decide what would go down next. He chipped in with big wins here and there for the team, and even if he wasn't on his A-game, his wisdom and leadership are desperately needed.

(P)San: Before jjakji came into prominence, San was HoSeo. He put HoSeo on the map with his two GSL semifinal appearances, and he was the face of the franchise alongside their Terran ace. While not doing well in GSL, he still helped with big victories in GSTL and was able to qualify for OSL to get more exposure for his team. Having already left the team once to try and find a former team to no avail, San has left the team for a second time for a chance at greener pastures, rumors even saying he might be traveling to the UK for studies.

(Z)Freaky: Possibly the player with the best games played/most recommended ratio in the history of Starcraft 2, Freaky was a player that could have become a star for HoSeo. He was young, had a style all his own, and simply an amazing player with loads of potential. Then the news broke that he had unexpectedly quit the team and retired, making people wonder what happened. Recent news has surfaced that Freaky came down with some sort of illness that made him quit the team and put his SC2 career in risk. He is still in the official line-up for HoSeo in this season's games, but you shouldn't expect to see him due to his illness. What could have been a player that revolutionized the name HoSeo has now turned into a depressing story of a boy having to quit due to an unknown illness.

(Z)Seal: While still in the main roster and no concrete news of him retiring/leaving the team, Seal is still a major question mark. After qualifying for Code A for the hundredth time and losing in the first round for the hundredth time, you would have expected him ready to crush another Code A qualifier and try his hand at another GSL season. Surprisingly, he was a no show in last week's HoSeo match against LG-IM, and he didn't even show up to the Code A qualifiers to try and make it back into the GSL. There have been rumors that he has lost his passion for the game and has been practicing less. Seal, similar to Freaky, was supposed to be the player to help carry the load alongside with jjakji. With a defining wins over Mvp and Nestea in last season's GSTL, he was on the road to being one of the best new Zergs in the scene. Now? We don't even know if he's still playing Starcraft.

(T)Sting: Left HoSeo for unknown reasons, but has put up strong online results since leaving. He got to the semifinals of TSL4, getting fourth place overall and proving that he would be a big help to HoSeo this season if he was still on their team. He might not be as missed as the others listed due to HoSeo still having jjakji and sculp, but with so many question marks, Sting would have at least been a dependable body that could have won at least a game or two if on his game.

(Z)Fairy/(Z)Flower/(P)Vanvanth: You know your team is in major trouble when you look at players like Fairy and VanVanth and go, 'Wow, it sure would be nice if they still at least had these players on their team.'

So, what is HoSeo left with?

(T)Sculp: Sculp is a good player, but if he is by far your second best player on your squad, then that's a gigantic warning sign that something is wrong. He made one Code A appearance, bombed out, and hasn't been able to make it back since. He has been able to pick up key wins before for HoSeo, but he is not a player you want to be the second in command of your ship. He's shown glimpses of a player that could become something big like against Symbol in last season's GSTL, but for HoSeo to survive the night, he will need to play out of his mind.

(P)Tassadar: He made it to the Code A finals a year ago, got whooped by Puzzle, and hasn't been back since. HoSeo has some weird obsession with putting Tassadar as the ace when they have no one left to play. He has been used as ace three times, and he has been stomped into the ground three straight times, never even picking up a single win when being put in that position. Not a bad player, but when you have teams like LG-IM, Startale, TSL, and Prime who can throw out a line-up where every single player is currently in either Code A or Code S, Tassadar wouldn't make the starting line-up for 90% of the league.

(T)jjakji: Can we start a campaign to save jjakji? He is the captain of a rickety boat, going down with the ship and drowning when he really doesn't have to for something he loves. You can commend him on his loyalty, but you have to wonder why he hasn't left yet. Yes, the foreign market for Korean players is drying up, but there has to be at least one foreign team that would love to have jjakji on their roster. He's young, a beast in team leagues, a GSL champion, and if he could only fix his TvT, a player that could become a constant in Code S once more. Even if a foreign team wouldn't bite, you don't think Slayers or TSL wouldn't want another Terran to help bolster their roster? If jjakji left HoSeo, he would find a new team no problem.

He's an extremely talented player, but he is now in a position where he needs to win three to five games a night for his team to win. If jjakji doesn't at least win three games, his team is pretty much done. Everyone else on his team is either in Code B, a rookie who has never played in the booth before, or...that's it. The saddest thing is, even if jjakji wins four games for his team and the rest of the squad only needs one map to secure the victory, can you say for certainty that anyone else on HoSeo could stop a reverse all-kill from happening?

Two seasons ago in a match between HoSeo and TSL, things were peachy for the boys of New Star. TSL was terrible, only had one relevant player in Polt, and they were the laughing stock of the league. Polt was put out first for his team, hoping to get a few victories to start out with, but sculp was able to take out the captain of TSL and take their best player out right away. In one of the most humiliating ceremonies in Starcraft history, the HoSeo team got off the bench, picked up their bags and headed for the exit.

"You are nothing without Polt. Your team sucks. We are leaving now."

TSL would lose in embarrassing fashion, HoSeo laughed, and it seemed like it would only be rainbows and sunshine for HoSeo from that point on. Ever since that night where HoSeo made fun of TSL, things have turned upside tremendously for both teams. The players that HoSeo made fun of that night like Polt, Symbol, and Shine have all developed and improved in the last six months. Polt and Symbol are now in the Ro16 of Code S, both two of the best players of their race, and TSL has four players, including Shine, in Code A for this season. HoSeo, in comparison, has now lost all of their core players except three, and they are hanging onto a thread with only jjakji at the bottom of Code A.

HoSeo says they're retooling and that they aren't dying, holding open tryouts online and hoping to develop their players the same way TSL did, but it could be too late. They might have made fun of TSL seasons ago, laughing at the down trotted team on the edge of blowing up, but now, with a loss tonight against Fnatic, there would be smiling anymore. You don't like talking about a team dying or having their final match, but if HoSeo loses tonight, it could be the final time you ever see them in the GSTL.

They need this win more than any team has ever needed a win in the history of GSTL. They are down to only three players anyone has ever heard of, and they need something to rejuvenate the team. jjakji, this is Moon, Byul, J, Oz and Alive. You probably need to beat all five of them if you want your team to live on another day.

Good luck.

Prediction: Fnatic 5 - 3 jjakji







Writer: Fionn.
Graphics: Pathy.
Editor: Waxangel.
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DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
September 14 2012 23:36 GMT
#2
Ouch. That is all I have to say. And the worst part is, I can't even dispute it...

Jjakji hwaiting!!!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 23:38:07
September 14 2012 23:37 GMT
#3
It's official, NSHS is TSL in the past. Though I want NSHS to live to see another day without being looked down as the weakest Korean team, I really don't see a hope for them unless they win this game. If they lose this, they are probably going to have the label of "Most Irrelevant/Weakest Korean Team", and take over the mantle of TSL in the past. Oh, the irony.

fnatic 5-2
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
September 14 2012 23:53 GMT
#4
HoSeo's ceremony against TSL sounds really fucked up. No more sympathy from me.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 23:55:22
September 14 2012 23:54 GMT
#5
On September 15 2012 08:37 PhoenixVoid wrote:
It's official, NSHS is TSL in the past. Though I want NSHS to live to see another day without being looked down as the weakest Korean team, I really don't see a hope for them unless they win this game. If they lose this, they are probably going to have the label of "Most Irrelevant/Weakest Korean Team", and take over the mantle of TSL in the past. Oh, the irony.

fnatic 5-2

At least they can take comfort that liquid and FXO will still the worst teams in GSTL history even if they lose this.
Glorious SEA doto
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 23:55:56
September 14 2012 23:55 GMT
#6
Team Polt's darkest hour. Sad to see all this talent leaving NSH. I remember the coach telling Artosis that San was one of the reasons they had good computers and food (he also mentions jjakji being a huge talent in the same interview :D:D:D:D::D). Still think they have a good chance at advancing, but it sure looks dark. Guide us through the darkness, Captain Jjakji!
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GreenFate
Profile Joined March 2011
France289 Posts
September 15 2012 00:02 GMT
#7
Sad but true ...
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
September 15 2012 00:12 GMT
#8
Fuck that shit! Hoseo is one of my favorite teams! I think they can win this. 5-4. it will be close, but I think they can win. Fnatic isn't that good. They all played like shit last week!
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 15 2012 00:33 GMT
#9
pretty cold.

5-3 jjakji
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
September 15 2012 00:45 GMT
#10
Very nice writeup.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
September 15 2012 00:50 GMT
#11
Meh, i kind of liked them. But these days Hoseo looks like a corpse in its last throes. If they screw this up they will probably be a goner, i hope captain jjakji abandons the ship should that happen.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
September 15 2012 00:51 GMT
#12
After seeing what happened last week against IM, Fnatic looked weak. If sculp at least can rack up 2 wins against aLive preferably, then Hoseo CAN win it.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 15 2012 00:58 GMT
#13
On September 15 2012 09:51 EnumaAvalon wrote:
After seeing what happened last week against IM, Fnatic looked weak. If sculp at least can rack up 2 wins against aLive preferably, then Hoseo CAN win it.


If the non-jjakji's can rack up 2 kills it'd be a miracle.

They need 3-4.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
September 15 2012 01:02 GMT
#14
I really want Fnatic to win, but I want Hoseo to succeed at the same time :/
HououinKyouma
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia152 Posts
September 15 2012 01:02 GMT
#15
i think jjakji will pull through
Jjakji 5-3 Fnatic
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Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
September 15 2012 01:08 GMT
#16
Sage? He isn't on NSH anymore... not to mention he's not in Korea either, playing for Alt-tab gaming at MoW house.
RUFinalBoss
Profile Joined May 2012
United States266 Posts
September 15 2012 01:24 GMT
#17
obv. they dont know about the new NSH recruit. dunno if he plays tongiht though...
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 15 2012 01:32 GMT
#18
On September 15 2012 10:08 Soda-88 wrote:
Sage? He isn't on NSH anymore... not to mention he's not in Korea either, playing for Alt-tab gaming at MoW house.


Just so you can realize the magnitude of how bad of shape HoSeo is in, let's look at some of the players who have left their team recently.

You can say that he was too hyped up by Artosis and was nothing more but a very smart, but extremely average fringe Code A/Code B player. Thing is, Sage was HoSeo's captain and right hand man to their coach. If you saw them picking who was coming out next or what to do, Sage would be consulting with the coach and helping decide what would go down next. He chipped in with big wins here and there for the team, and even if he wasn't on his A-game, his wisdom and leadership are desperately needed.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
September 15 2012 01:41 GMT
#19
Come on NS Jjakji!
Ricemagical
Profile Joined November 2010
270 Posts
September 15 2012 01:57 GMT
#20
On September 15 2012 08:54 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 08:37 PhoenixVoid wrote:
It's official, NSHS is TSL in the past. Though I want NSHS to live to see another day without being looked down as the weakest Korean team, I really don't see a hope for them unless they win this game. If they lose this, they are probably going to have the label of "Most Irrelevant/Weakest Korean Team", and take over the mantle of TSL in the past. Oh, the irony.

fnatic 5-2

At least they can take comfort that liquid and FXO will still the worst teams in GSTL history even if they lose this.

Yes but those teams were never on the verge of disbanding out of existence...
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
September 15 2012 02:18 GMT
#21
I would say that jjakji has pretty much fixed his TvT with his recent victories against notable opponents.
Anyway, very good writeup. A bit too NSHS-focused, perhaps, but I accept the fact that you took the occasion to write an eulogy of sort. It's looking like it will be needed.
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
September 15 2012 02:34 GMT
#22
jjkaji now knows exactly how taeja feels hahaha
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37064 Posts
September 15 2012 03:04 GMT
#23
-__-;;

I never expected to read such a write up that would make me this scared for NSH.

C'MON HOSEO! DO THIS!!
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Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
September 15 2012 03:15 GMT
#24
If I say it enough times, it will happen.

Moon all-kill, Fnatic 5-1 NSHS
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ffrozenfish
Profile Joined May 2011
820 Posts
September 15 2012 03:29 GMT
#25
I feel bad rooting for Fnatic after reading this
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babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
September 15 2012 03:36 GMT
#26
On September 15 2012 08:54 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 08:37 PhoenixVoid wrote:
It's official, NSHS is TSL in the past. Though I want NSHS to live to see another day without being looked down as the weakest Korean team, I really don't see a hope for them unless they win this game. If they lose this, they are probably going to have the label of "Most Irrelevant/Weakest Korean Team", and take over the mantle of TSL in the past. Oh, the irony.

fnatic 5-2

At least they can take comfort that liquid and FXO will still the worst teams in GSTL history even if they lose this.

Didn't FXO just win the gstl? or are you referring to the qxc all-kill and alot of embarasing losses FXO?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 15 2012 03:47 GMT
#27
cheering for NSH!
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LongBow
Profile Joined May 2012
United States265 Posts
September 15 2012 03:53 GMT
#28
Lets go NSHS! Sorry Fnatic, but underdogs...
Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
September 15 2012 03:55 GMT
#29
Have to root for NSHS! Cmon guys!
zestzorb
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand776 Posts
September 15 2012 04:04 GMT
#30
I always thought Freaky was just teamless and looking to join some foreign team. This is so sad
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 15 2012 04:14 GMT
#31
to be honest:

i'd rather have fnatic win today and have NSHS die.

jjakji and the rest of the team don't deserve to struggle for 6 more months before they inevitably meet the same fate as oGs. they deserve better.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 15 2012 04:36 GMT
#32
On September 15 2012 13:14 Gamegene wrote:
to be honest:

i'd rather have fnatic win today and have NSHS die.

jjakji and the rest of the team don't deserve to struggle for 6 more months before they inevitably meet the same fate as oGs. they deserve better.


Yes, they do deserve better. Win a GSTL title then disband.
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
September 15 2012 05:10 GMT
#33
So sad for NSH. They should see if they can get Cutter to come out of retirement to join their roster.
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RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1082 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 08:36:27
September 15 2012 06:14 GMT
#34
About the NSHS vs Fnatic match:
+ Show Spoiler [match spoilers inside] +
2-0 Salvation over Moon and J.
Most fitting name ever for NSHS?

edit: his parade has been Rained on.
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
September 15 2012 06:34 GMT
#35
On September 15 2012 08:55 NuclearJudas wrote:
Team Polt's darkest hour.


Lmfao, can't believe I never saw that. Totally epic.
Good luck Hoseo!
SgtBromancer
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden21 Posts
September 15 2012 08:14 GMT
#36
Liquid´Jjakji!

... Please?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 15 2012 09:41 GMT
#37
A valiant fight by NSHS.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 15 2012 09:43 GMT
#38
Team Jjakji was not strong enough today T_T

I hope Hoseo can do well in the IPTL to make up for this.
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
September 15 2012 10:47 GMT
#39
Looks like TSL could use another strong Terran in their line-up.. something to think about, jjakji?
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 10:51:33
September 15 2012 10:48 GMT
#40
I like Fnatic more than Hoseo, but I didn't think I have the heart to root against them.
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3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
September 15 2012 12:48 GMT
#41
I demand a nice little comment about Moon for all the ex-Wc3-fans
HaniStream
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada50 Posts
September 15 2012 12:51 GMT
#42

Prediction: Fnatic 5 - 3 jjakji


Bruised someone's ego right there.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 15 2012 16:14 GMT
#43
While still in the main roster and no concrete news of him retiring/leaving the team, Seal is still a major question mark. After qualifying for Code A for the hundredth time and losing in the first round for the hundredth time, you would have expected him ready to crush another Code A qualifier and try his hand at another GSL season. Surprisingly, he was a no show in last week's HoSeo match against LG-IM, and he didn't even show up to the Code A qualifiers to try and make it back into the GSL. There have been rumors that he has lost his passion for the game and has been practicing less. Seal, similar to Freaky, was supposed to be the player to help carry the load alongside with jjakji. With a defining wins over Mvp and Nestea in last season's GSTL, he was on the road to being one of the best new Zergs in the scene. Now? We don't even know if he's still playing Starcraft.


this is so sad/disheartening
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
chris5180
Profile Joined July 2012
198 Posts
September 15 2012 18:50 GMT
#44
lets go Fnatic!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 15 2012 18:51 GMT
#45

They need this win more than any team has ever needed a win in the history of GSTL. They are down to only three players anyone has ever heard of, and they need something to rejuvenate the team. jjakji, this is Moon, Byul, J, Oz and Alive. You probably need to beat all five of them if you want your team to live on another day.

+ Show Spoiler +
And... they lose 5-4 with Salvation getting 2 wins
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justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
September 16 2012 00:13 GMT
#46
This article depressed me.
Never make a hydralisk.
pathy
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Taiwan619 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 04:24:18
September 16 2012 01:53 GMT
#47
loloolo
Graphicscolosi suck
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
September 17 2012 21:29 GMT
#48
fnatic great performance from aLive and Rain
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
twsx
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland29 Posts
September 18 2012 07:33 GMT
#49
Never seen that "ceremony" of NSH before. I still like jjakji, but that team is dead for me. That's just plain bad sportsmanship.
Say what?
LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
September 19 2012 15:29 GMT
#50
On September 16 2012 01:14 Mattchew wrote:
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While still in the main roster and no concrete news of him retiring/leaving the team, Seal is still a major question mark. After qualifying for Code A for the hundredth time and losing in the first round for the hundredth time, you would have expected him ready to crush another Code A qualifier and try his hand at another GSL season. Surprisingly, he was a no show in last week's HoSeo match against LG-IM, and he didn't even show up to the Code A qualifiers to try and make it back into the GSL. There have been rumors that he has lost his passion for the game and has been practicing less. Seal, similar to Freaky, was supposed to be the player to help carry the load alongside with jjakji. With a defining wins over Mvp and Nestea in last season's GSTL, he was on the road to being one of the best new Zergs in the scene. Now? We don't even know if he's still playing Starcraft.


this is so sad/disheartening

Yeah, Seal was such an exciting player.
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