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[Up/Down] Group A Preview (feat. MaNa)

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August 27th, 2012 01:17 GMT
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Up Down Matches: Group A Preview


By: Fionn


Editor's note: When I went to Korea to check out the GSL, the thing that surprised me the most was finding out that the GomTV staff aren't a bunch of indentured servants, slaving away under the whips of their masters. As far as I could tell, they seem to be quite willingly, and cheerfully operating a Starcraft II league every single week, without any concept of an off-season. The Code S WCS finals was just two days ago, and already they're going into the Up/Downs. The week after that? They'll go right into producing GSTL Season 2 3, probably. Although, now that I think about it, I don't know why it came as a surprise. From what we've seen of Korean Starcraft II pro-gamers, unnatural endurance seems to be an inherent national trait.

Up/Down Group A
Top two advance to Code S


We are on the brink of something extraordinary, friends. If you take a gander at the line-up already set for this season's Code S, the only thing you can say is that has the potential to be the greatest season in the two year history of GSL. We still have to wait for the tug-of-war for power between KeSPA and ESF to end before seeing who will be getting the two seeds into this season's Code S, but with seven former GSL champions already assured a spot in Season 4 and a slew of talented players salivating for their first golden badge, this is assuredly the season, out of all others before it, that you must keep an eye on.

To begin the festivities of another season, we have one of the most intriguing Up/Down groups in quite a while. As always, we will be counting down the players in the group from who we think is least likely to most likely to get out of the group and up into Code S.

5. (P)mouz.MaNa

As one of the only two white dudes taking on the Up/Downs this season (and if ThorZaIN's health doesn't improve in time, maybe the only one), Mana will be making his debut in the Mokdong Studios. With his first place finish at Dreamhack Summer, beating Dimaga in the finals, he received a chance to prove himself against the very best in the world and try to make an underdog run into Code S. Some might believe that receiving a Code S or Up/Down seed isn't fair to the people who actually had to qualify to get here, but after one glance at this group, you can say Mana isn't that lucky. If he makes it out of this group of heavy hitters, no one, and I mean no one, will be able to say he doesn't deserve his spot in Code S.

Thing is, actually getting out of this group is going to be a mammoth sized task. Mana's may have been famous for his PvT in the past, but if you take a look at his recent games against Korean Terrans, he has only been able to beat the team-less Sting. Against top end vP players such as Polt, Taeja, and Hack, he hasn't been able to get past them. This is what he will be up against when facing Bomber, Keen, and jjakji, all extraordinary players against Protoss. Making matters worse, in PvZ, his historically worst match-up, he will have to take on Hyun, a player who recently beat Squirtle in IPL Fight Club and has a 66% win rate against Protoss in Korea.

Is it an impossible task to ask Mana to qualify for Code S in his debut? Possibly, but after seeing Naniwa make it to back-to-back quarterfinals, you can never say never. Mana is a strong foreigner and possibly one of the only foreigners who could do well in the current Code S landscape, but he will be heading into this group as the heavy underdog. The Up/Down matches are still Bo1, and we've seen players excel in these situations that you wouldn't expect to make it out. For Mana's sake, hopefully he is one of those types.

(T)4. ST_Bomber

Okay, it's official. Bomber is the Starcraft 2 version of (T)Sea. Since coming onto the scene over a year ago, Bomber is a player that we've been waiting for to claim his throne as the best Terran in the world. He beat Mvp in the finals of his first Code A tournament and claimed to be the best player in the world. It all but seemed certain that he would be taking over Mvp's throne as best Terran in the world and go on to win numerous Code S championships. He had strong, innovative play and was able to out TvT the player people thought couldn't be beat in the match-up. His play in team leagues was fantastic, and Bomber was able to go to Raleigh, at his first foreign event, and take home the title over Coca in the finals.

He made it to the quarterfinals of GSL July, but since then there has really only been disappointment after disappointment. Flip flopping between Code A and Code S, Bomber never lived up to the hype. Exactly like Sea in Brood War, he was thought to be the next big thing and neither have been able to get past the round of eight in the GSL. Bomber is still fantastic when it comes to team leagues, but he has been inconsistent when it comes to his efforts in singles competition.

2-8 in his last 10 Korean TvT's, it doesn't bode well in a group against two strong Terrans in Keen and jjakji. His TvP is still at an astonishing 74%, but when his only vP game is against Mana, a player that many expect to be beaten by most of the group, it might not be enough to make it out of the group.

Bomber has been given many chances to prove to us that his boasts of being the best player in the world weren't just smoke, but he hasn't capitalized on any of them. Failing to qualify for OSL, WCS, and WCG were just more instances of him not being to show consistency. He still shows occasional flashes of the player who we thought was going to be a Code S champion, but they are far and few between, Maybe the role of not being expected to qualify out of an Up/Down group will do Bomber some good, but if he continues how he has been playing, fourth or even last place is where he is most likely to finish.

3. (Z)TSL_HyuN

How good can Hyun become? Every time you see him, it feels like he has improved immensely in his play. If it wasn't for a missed overlord drop research in the first game of his series against Genius in the final stage of Code A, Hyun might already be with his teammates Symbol and Polt in Code S. He showed great play in Code A this season, and he continues his steamrolling of online leagues across the internet. If there is a random $25 tournament somewhere on the internet, don't be surprised if you see Hyun up at 3:00 AM destroying random foreigners.

The four Koreans in this group are very close in skill, but the only reason Hyun isn't in the top two of this group is because of how heavy it is filled with Terrans. Replace the Terran players in this group with Protoss, and Hyun is far and away the favorite in this group. His ZvP has been on fire recently, evening beat Squirtle in commanding fashion in the IPL Fight Club.

Hyun's ZvT, while nothing to scoff at, is his weakest match-up. He still has a tendency to load up on a billion banes and lings, roll towards his opponent's base in the late-game and hope to Julyzerg his way into the winner's circle. jjakji and Keen, possibly his two biggest rivals to get out of this group, are both very good TvZ players and will not be easily beaten by tons of banelings.

The best thing about Hyun's chances in this group is you never know how good he has become in a short amount of time. We haven't seen him play in almost a month, so he is probably ten times better than we last saw him against Genius. He should be able to beat Mana, but it will all come down to if he can take two out of three games against Bomber, Keen and jjakji. Hyun saw his old elephant pals cause a ruckus during WCS Korea, so he will try to start a stampede of his own in tonight's proceedings.

2. (T)MVPKeeN

Losing to Heart 2-0 in the third stage of Code A was a bit of an upset, but Keen will try to come back and qualify for Code S. His TvT, while not great, is still on par with the other two players in the group. jjakji has never been known for his strong TvT, and Bomber has been on a downturn in the match-up and inconsistent overall. Mana and Hyun won't be simple walkover wins for Keen, but he already beat Hyun in the final TSL Korean qualifier, and Keen gets to the honor of being Mana's first opponent of the night.

Currently in the TSL4 semifinals, Keen is a player who while inconsistent, is still surprisingly more consistent than his two Terran counterparts in this group. jjakji hasn't been able to do much since winning his GSL championship, and Bomber is the definition of inconsistency. There's not much more to say than that he is a very solid player, is good enough to make it out of this group, and his biggest Achilles' heel is shared with the rest of the group. A good showing in the Up/Downs and a return to Code S could be a good start towards Keen's march to the TSL4 championship.

1. (T)NSH_jjakji

It must be pretty lonely for jjakji. The only GSL champion besides him not to already be in next season's Code S is retired and coaching kids in the ways of League of Legends. With the seven other active champions already confirmed a spot in this season's all star affair, jjakji could make it so that every active GSL winner is in the fourth season of Code S. It all rides on if he can get past his TvT troubles and get back into Code S for the first time in two seasons.

Since winning his championship, jjakji has been the black sheep of the GSL champion family. All the other champions have teams where they are able to be sent to foreign tournaments and extend their presence beyond Korea. For jjakji, on HoSeo, a team that almost never sends players to foreign tournaments out of their own pocket, he has only been able to travel to IPL4 as his only foreign tournament experience, and that wasn't even from his own team sending him. Jjakji had to win IPL's Tournament of Champions, beating every other team's ace player online to get his plane ticket and hotel room paid for.

Excluding the fact he hasn't been able to go to any foreign tournaments, he is the champion most looked at for being a fluke. His TvZ final against Leenock was fantastic, but he did get lucky during the tournament with some of his opponents either having to forfeit (Coca) or just returning from a foreign tournament (Puzzle). He hasn't done much to disprove his critics, not being able to make it back to the quarterfinals of Code S since winning his title. Similar to Bomber's situation, jjakji is still strong in the GSTL, but hasn't done much in the GSL after.

This is jjakji's biggest night since winning his GSL title. If he can qualify for Code S, he can join his champion comrades and make this season legendary for having all eight active champions competing in the same tournament. Not qualifying would be horrendous for his career and reputation. While the seven other champions are battling for another championship, he will be down in Code A wondering if he can go play League with FruitDealer.






Writer: Fionn.
Graphics and Art: Meko.
Editor: Waxangel.
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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
August 27 2012 01:19 GMT
#2
Commander keen has this, maybe jjakji has a chance.
Do 2 people advance?
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Zenbrez
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Canada5973 Posts
August 27 2012 01:20 GMT
#3
Ahh great, I was just thinking about this writeup to comeup :D
Refer to my post.
cndaks
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United States95 Posts
August 27 2012 01:26 GMT
#4
keen... def
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Canada85 Posts
August 27 2012 01:29 GMT
#5
MaNa fighting . So excited to see him compete , whether he wins or loses. This will be a great test for himself , in my opinion.
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permelito
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Sweden19 Posts
August 27 2012 01:30 GMT
#6
Hope Mana will be able to take a game of someone, at least. Then I'll be happy
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 27 2012 01:34 GMT
#7
i think bomber will go through, but idk between jjakji and hyun
ChoDing
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United States740 Posts
August 27 2012 01:35 GMT
#8
Go Hyun! Time to troll GSL with funny talks :D, just like MSL!
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Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
August 27 2012 01:36 GMT
#9
I don't expect Mana to qualify, but it'd be great if he could win a few games. Cheering for him in any event
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Muskox
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Canada87 Posts
August 27 2012 01:36 GMT
#10
On August 27 2012 10:19 TehTemplar wrote:
Commander keen has this, maybe jjakji has a chance.
Do 2 people advance?

Yes, top 2.
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
August 27 2012 01:37 GMT
#11
Reading this makes me feel so bad for Jjakji. I really would like to see him join a team that would send him overseas more often to compete in foreigner tourneys. But I got a gut feeling Jjakji and Bomber will somehow make it through, though logically I am more inclined to see Hyun and Keen make it.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
August 27 2012 01:38 GMT
#12
Let's go HyuN! Join Symbol and Polt where you belong!
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 27 2012 01:41 GMT
#13
Good luck Mana! Thank you for the write up Fionn!
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Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
August 27 2012 01:42 GMT
#14
Jjakji fighting!!!!
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United Kingdom3249 Posts
August 27 2012 01:51 GMT
#15
Jjakji hwaiting!
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Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
August 27 2012 01:52 GMT
#16
Jjakji+Hyun are my predictions.
Jjakji fighting
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 27 2012 01:58 GMT
#17
i feel like jjakji is being underrated a bit. i'd call him more along the lines of a solid mid-low tier code s player that got lucky and won a championship that a code a scrub.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 27 2012 01:58 GMT
#18
I wish I could challenge Bomber as being placed so low in the predictions, but everyone knows how streaky he can be. I hope the Good Bomber shows up tonight.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
August 27 2012 01:59 GMT
#19
killer group man
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 27 2012 02:01 GMT
#20
If jjakji wins, Chae should give FruitDealer a Code S seed.

Greatest season confirmed.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 27 2012 02:10 GMT
#21
I'm hoping for Jjakji and Bomber but I like all these guys so I'll be happy regardless of result :D
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Canada1131 Posts
August 27 2012 02:15 GMT
#22
Come on Jjakji!
Gorlin
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United States2753 Posts
August 27 2012 02:16 GMT
#23
When did Bomber claim to be the best player in the world? I remember other people calling him that, but he had always maintained that he thought Mvp was the best player.
The two specific instance I remember him calling Mvp the best player was when Artosis went to the Startale house a bit after GSTL 1, and then after he won code A against Mvp.
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198 Posts
August 27 2012 02:20 GMT
#24
go MaNa :D one of my favorite players!
Tibbroar
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United States161 Posts
August 27 2012 02:20 GMT
#25
This group is utterly impossible to predict with how inconsistent the players are... if best-player-in-the-world Bomber shows up, he wins the group easily. If the jjakji decides to not randomly play like crap he should get through too, but those are both such gigantic "ifs".
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Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
August 27 2012 02:33 GMT
#26
I would say jjakji and keen take this
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United States1639 Posts
August 27 2012 02:47 GMT
#27
Go jjakji and bomber!
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United States182 Posts
August 27 2012 02:56 GMT
#28
Keen And Bomber!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33302 Posts
August 27 2012 03:25 GMT
#29
predicting bomber is always a hazard

two possibilities for him

1) he will 4 - 0 this group, then disappoint you LATER in Code S by fucking up

2) he will disappoint you NOW and go 1 - 3 in this group or something
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7650 Posts
August 27 2012 03:27 GMT
#30
Ctrl-F Mvp? (no not the team)
Check.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
August 27 2012 03:43 GMT
#31
Mana can do it. I've always liked Mana, and if it's his night to win he's totally capable of it. Don't see him likley beating Hyun though. Pulling for Jjakji and Mana.
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Australia2738 Posts
August 27 2012 03:46 GMT
#32
On August 27 2012 12:25 Waxangel wrote:
predicting bomber is always a hazard

two possibilities for him

1) he will 4 - 0 this group, then disappoint you LATER in Code S by fucking up

2) he will disappoint you NOW and go 1 - 3 in this group or something


The real disappointment is the one season when nobody votes for him, he'll win and ruin everyone's liquibets.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
August 27 2012 03:58 GMT
#33
On August 27 2012 11:01 Fionn wrote:
If jjakji wins, Chae should give FruitDealer a Code S seed.

Greatest season confirmed.


YES
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Chile843 Posts
August 27 2012 04:03 GMT
#34
I'll be stunned if Mana takes even a single game.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
August 27 2012 04:12 GMT
#35
Looking forward to Jjakji and HyuN especially.
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Canada39254 Posts
August 27 2012 04:14 GMT
#36
On August 27 2012 12:27 ch33psh33p wrote:
Ctrl-F Mvp? (no not the team)
Check.


I do this every time now.

Bomber and Jjakji fighting.
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Micronesia1338 Posts
August 27 2012 04:27 GMT
#37
HyuN's got this shit. maybe Keen or Jjakji in second place. MaNa's dead last for sure...
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 27 2012 04:39 GMT
#38
Comparisons to (T)Sea are so lazy. I still maintain that Bomber is the terran SC2 version of (P)BeSt, a guy who scared everyone shitless with his obscene macro, but was lacking in other skillsets and did not have the mentality of a champion.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 27 2012 04:43 GMT
#39
On August 27 2012 13:39 red4ce wrote:
Comparisons to (T)Sea are so lazy. I still maintain that Bomber is the terran SC2 version of (P)BeSt, a guy who scared everyone shitless with his obscene macro, but was lacking in other skillsets and did not have the mentality of a champion.


Best actually made an OSL final.
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Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
August 27 2012 04:45 GMT
#40
On August 27 2012 10:17 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:Editor's note: When I went to Korea to check out the GSL, the thing that surprised me the most was finding out that the GomTV staff aren't a bunch of indentured servants, slaving away under the whips of their masters. As far as I could tell, they seem to be quite willingly, and cheerfully operating a Starcraft II league every single week, without any concept of an off-season. The Code S WCS finals was just two days ago, and already they're going into the Up/Downs. The week after that? They'll go right into producing GSTL Season 2 3, probably. Although, now that I think about it, I don't know why it came as a surprise. From what we've seen of Korean Starcraft II pro-gamers, unnatural endurance seems to be an inherent national trait.

Working every week is inhumane? Wow, I need to complain to my boss.
antifan
Profile Joined August 2012
116 Posts
August 27 2012 04:47 GMT
#41
Jjakji and bomber...they aren't overrated like keen is.
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
August 27 2012 05:23 GMT
#42
Jjakji and Hyun calling it now
hmm... let's think about it
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
August 27 2012 05:25 GMT
#43
On August 27 2012 10:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
i feel like jjakji is being underrated a bit. i'd call him more along the lines of a solid mid-low tier code s player that got lucky and won a championship that a code a scrub.


i feel like what happened with jjakji is that he was a player with TONS of potential but after (somewhat luckily) winning his code s while he was still in that immature "potential" state caused him to practice less so that potential wasn't realized. He's still a very good player but he could've been so much more.
hmm... let's think about it
Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
August 27 2012 05:49 GMT
#44
hope jjaki can make it through, and would be cool to see Mana get through, but seems like a pretty tight match overall
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33302 Posts
August 27 2012 05:59 GMT
#45
On August 27 2012 13:39 red4ce wrote:
Comparisons to (T)Sea are so lazy. I still maintain that Bomber is the terran SC2 version of (P)BeSt, a guy who scared everyone shitless with his obscene macro, but was lacking in other skillsets and did not have the mentality of a champion.


if you think his micro is bad, then I dunno what to say :o
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Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
August 27 2012 06:03 GMT
#46
Come on Hyun!Kill'em all!
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Mustajuttu
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden6 Posts
August 27 2012 06:51 GMT
#47
Hope MaNa wins i'd love to see more europeans in code s.
More GG more skill
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Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden583 Posts
August 27 2012 06:52 GMT
#48
gogo Jjakji and Bomber~!!
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DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 27 2012 06:53 GMT
#49
I don't see jjakji comming through. Not with his TvT.
fenrysk
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
August 27 2012 07:13 GMT
#50
i came to cheer MaNa, but after reading that write-up i'm hoping jjakji miraculously makes it through
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AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
August 27 2012 08:19 GMT
#51
Wow Mana drew a brutal group, sucks.
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Sweden1381 Posts
August 27 2012 08:54 GMT
#52
On August 27 2012 13:45 Jumbled wrote:
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On August 27 2012 10:17 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:Editor's note: When I went to Korea to check out the GSL, the thing that surprised me the most was finding out that the GomTV staff aren't a bunch of indentured servants, slaving away under the whips of their masters. As far as I could tell, they seem to be quite willingly, and cheerfully operating a Starcraft II league every single week, without any concept of an off-season. The Code S WCS finals was just two days ago, and already they're going into the Up/Downs. The week after that? They'll go right into producing GSTL Season 2 3, probably. Although, now that I think about it, I don't know why it came as a surprise. From what we've seen of Korean Starcraft II pro-gamers, unnatural endurance seems to be an inherent national trait.

Working every week is inhumane? Wow, I need to complain to my boss.


Exactly my thought reading that :D
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GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
August 27 2012 08:57 GMT
#53
im curious on how mana is going to play rather than if he gets through or not.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 27 2012 09:01 GMT
#54
"Every active GSL Champ in Code S"

Wait, MMA is in Code S ? Daaaaamn I forgot that ! *happy happy happy happy*
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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
August 27 2012 09:37 GMT
#55
I don't like Keen too much. I'd go with Jjakji/Hyun/Bomber/Keen/Mana.
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dzieciol001
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland16 Posts
August 27 2012 10:14 GMT
#56
GL HF MANA !
PittlerGG
Profile Joined June 2012
22 Posts
August 27 2012 10:34 GMT
#57
I don't understand what is so special about MANA being in the GSL. Its not like he went to korea and qualified, he got a free ticket from winning an european tournament.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
August 27 2012 10:57 GMT
#58
Will there be an osl preview?
executorx
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany81 Posts
August 27 2012 11:26 GMT
#59
go go Bomber and Keen.

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Noxblood
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway374 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 12:04:36
August 27 2012 12:04 GMT
#60
Don't think that Mana will make it but god damit it would be awesome! will root for him on my job! And keep myself spoiler free until tonight so can watch the vods
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Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 12:11:27
August 27 2012 12:10 GMT
#61
I said it in the first thread about groups and I'll say it again, I love Mana's chances of making it out of here. Jjakji and Bomber will be tough, but I don't see him having any trouble with Keen and Hyun. Ok.... maybe not "no trouble," but I really like his chances.
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
August 27 2012 12:41 GMT
#62
Nice predictions, Fionn, nearly spot on.
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
August 27 2012 12:46 GMT
#63
MaNa did it, nice

(And Bomber live to fight another day... and disappoint everyone then)
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Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
August 27 2012 12:50 GMT
#64
Way to go with predictions Fionn.
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
August 27 2012 13:08 GMT
#65
this prediction is so great
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Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
August 27 2012 14:47 GMT
#66
Fionn predicts jjakji first and MaNa last. Mana get 2nd and jjakji last.

Hahaha :D

.aquila
Profile Joined July 2011
United States68 Posts
August 27 2012 15:24 GMT
#67
Woke up in the morning to read this, already knew the Up-Down results, + Show Spoiler +
and giggled at the fact that Fionn's predictions were about as wrong as you can get. I'm okay with this though
wolfi
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany9 Posts
August 27 2012 15:36 GMT
#68
GSL predictions are always more a kind of guess than real predictions. ;-)

I´m very happy, that Mana made it. GL @ Code S!
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Bassets
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1 Post
August 27 2012 16:21 GMT
#69
I think MaNa has great chances to advance, there are 3 terrans which is his best matchup.
Negatiive
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada207 Posts
August 27 2012 16:30 GMT
#70
yeah! screw you koreans!
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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
August 27 2012 16:38 GMT
#71
Ty Fionn! Cursing the other 3 .
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
August 27 2012 16:42 GMT
#72
lol almost exact opposite
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37003 Posts
August 27 2012 16:48 GMT
#73
Fionn strikes again!

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Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
August 27 2012 17:25 GMT
#74
Fun stuff haha. Its all good though Fionn - no one blames you i'm sure! Thanks for the write ups and go Mana! Sad for Hyun though =(
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testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
August 27 2012 17:30 GMT
#75
On August 28 2012 01:48 SeeKeR wrote:
Fionn strikes again!

You're gifted, you know that?


He didn't ask for these powers....
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Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
August 27 2012 19:10 GMT
#76
bomber and MaNa least likely to advance you say...? :D
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 27 2012 19:34 GMT
#77
I think I correctly predicted this group backwards.

Frightening.
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Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
August 27 2012 20:44 GMT
#78
I'm not sure why jJakji gets as much love as he does. He played some really inspired games against Leenock and clearly got in the cherub's head, but other than that I just don't really like his game sense and decision making and his macro just does not make up for those deficiencies. If there is one thing that can be admired for Bomber it is that he macros like a beast, and he just seemed to be choosing poor tactics in the past. Really loved the group as I watched it today.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33302 Posts
August 27 2012 21:18 GMT
#79
On August 28 2012 04:34 Fionn wrote:
I think I correctly predicted this group backwards.

Frightening.


o/
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dranjam
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland198 Posts
August 27 2012 21:33 GMT
#80
Artosis curse is on you now Fionn ;D
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight with you, then you win.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
August 28 2012 00:40 GMT
#81
JackGi...maybe it's time for him to join FruitDealer...
:/
moo...for DRG
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
August 28 2012 00:57 GMT
#82
GGWP Fionn, seriously amazing at predictions :DD
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Ernius
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland4 Posts
August 28 2012 07:33 GMT
#83
Great job by MaNa
I'm really impressed
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Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
August 29 2012 00:07 GMT
#84
my two picks would be bomber and hyun
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