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Interview: MLG's Adam Apicella & Lee Chen - Page 4

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oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
May 15 2012 20:02 GMT
#61
Nice! Thank you!
PlunderGames
Profile Joined December 2011
United States5 Posts
May 15 2012 20:20 GMT
#62
On May 16 2012 01:29 See.Blue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 01:15 PlunderGames wrote:
On May 16 2012 00:52 Kilby wrote:
I know Orlando is in Florida but does it have a beach?

Its close enough to one (~1 hour drive).


I think he's more worried if its close enough to the convention center for FBH to jump into it.


Best get a running start then
But why is the rum gone?
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 20:29:00
May 15 2012 20:28 GMT
#63
On May 16 2012 02:08 paddyz wrote:
I really have lost a lot of respect for MLG. I love watching their events, the production is great, great players compete and the commentators are good too. But they still don't have big enough prize pools, they make the lesser known players play through extremely difficult open brackets and let fan favourites into the much more forgiving pool play(either by picking 4 liked Koreans from GSL eg.boxer or by "seeding" in players like incontrol and machine). Its as if the player is always put last. Then they go off and say: "But as a league, the cornerstone of what we do has to be sacred. If that's not sacred, then we have nothing to stand on." Seems to me like they now have nothing to stand on since they are about to let people who have barely played SC2 have spots in their event purely because they have a lot of fans willing to pay to see them. Why not let them join via open qualifiers so it is fair on everyone?

So long as MLG get to show the fan favourites being casted by well known casters they will make their money so it's ok (I thought I saw somewhere that the casters got paid more then the players- not 100% sure though). The people who don't finish high don't really get any money at all and even those who do well don't get as much as the players who do well in IPL or NASL, they still show their events at times that don't suit Europe and they always give off the impression that all they care about is money and power. It seems unfair how they have become known as the major non-Korean event.

Its as if they abused their high viewership nubers to get GOM to send players over just so MLG could get even more viewers and now that kespa has joined the scene MLG just leave GOM and do the same thing with kespa.
They blame GOM for not seeding naniwa but I though it was MLGs job to get naniwa that seed, they promised it to him it but did not even check with GOM if he had it. They could hardly claim to be a partner with GOM if they did not even know GOM had a new format. Does this not hint towards them not trying to get nani his seed? and now they blame GOM and give that as their reason for ending the partnership. Once again not caring at all about their players, just trying to get more viewers.

Dude, have you watched MLG at all this year? You are talking about last season. This year, its completely different.

And about the Europe times, what time do you want MLG to start? Dream Hack didn't air at NA friendly times. You run events at times good for the players at the event first dude.
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 15 2012 20:34 GMT
#64
So many random MLG haters.
Marddox
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom108 Posts
May 15 2012 21:14 GMT
#65
I'm glad you've asked direct questions. no fluff as wheat would say!

nice work ^^
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
May 15 2012 21:31 GMT
#66
I'm going to be honest, I'm seeing a double standard here. MLG claim that they want every player to have an equal opportunity and that what matters most is equality and having the most skilled player win every tournament no matter what happens, even to the detriment of foreign players.

However they are giving a select group of players a tournament all to themselves at Anaheim and are allowing them a special seeding into their tournaments exclusively. They complained about GOM giving an advantage to a special few players and that is exactly what they are doing.

I'm all for making money and sustaining the current interest in tournaments and hope this is a success. I just felt that as I read MLG was being very hypocritical.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 15 2012 21:34 GMT
#67
I don't like the exclusive partnership, as I fear it could really divide the scene up. I definitely do not want to see a IPL-GOM and Kespa-MLG divide.
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 21:38:54
May 15 2012 21:38 GMT
#68
Thanks for the interview.

Just saying; I'm not going to pay in order to watch my favorite BW players play Sc2.
o choro é livre
Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
May 15 2012 22:17 GMT
#69
On May 16 2012 03:00 milesfacade wrote:
Absolutely fantastic questions asked by Wax but terribly vague and repetitive answers. MLG's secretive PR is really starting to worry me, and it seems as though it concerns others as well.

Show nested quote +
Let's be clear on that, because I've seen a lot of stuff on TL or Reddit about how this means that progamer licenses are coming to the West, or that you'll only be able to see these players in the West behind a PPV wall at Arenas, or all kinds of insanity that are based around rumor mongering. I mean, fair enough, we haven't actually said that much about it yet.


This was my favourite part of the interview. Lee criticises the 'rumour mongering' and then retreats when he realises that the rumour mongering is perfectly understandable given MLG's unforthcoming approach to the KESPA deal.


I thought the same thing... I wish they were pressed for more details because there wasn't really anything new in this interview.
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 22:54:10
May 15 2012 22:41 GMT
#70
The most disapointing thing about this interview is that Adam Acipella's name isn't Adam Acapella. Frankly, this was the only reason I liked MLG. Support withdrawn.

Oh and they were still needlessly vague about the whole exclusivity thing. It's pathetic. I get it, they don't want rocks pelted at them like the PPV thing but guess what, you got a sick deal, take a couple of nut shots and stop pretending that your exclusive deal isn't exclusive just to give the fans some effing transparency. This seems to be the fans greatest problem with MLG, (although I guess I'm speaking personally now but...) love the events, love the arenas, but fuck I feel like I'm being treated like a six year old when Mom and Dad are getting divorced over this GOM thing and then it gets onto something that impacts EVERY OTHER TOURNAMENT I WATCH and they won't even answer straight?

Tedious. Like some chick teasing your balls all night only for her to fuck off to the club with her friends and leaving me thinking, "Fuck that trick-ass hoe-bag MLG bitch. If she don't want the dick, don't ask."

zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
May 15 2012 23:06 GMT
#71
On May 16 2012 05:34 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
So many random MLG haters.


apparently it's the league everyone cares about the most.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 15 2012 23:12 GMT
#72
finally...western team houses... FINALLY
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
May 15 2012 23:33 GMT
#73
On May 16 2012 06:38 Al Bundy wrote:
Thanks for the interview.

Just saying; I'm not going to pay in order to watch my favorite BW players play Sc2.


That's your right. I honestly can't see why they would care though if you say that as if it's your moral code. Give them a chance to create an exciting product and then decide if it's worth any money to you.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
May 16 2012 00:06 GMT
#74
On May 16 2012 08:33 how2TL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 06:38 Al Bundy wrote:
Thanks for the interview.

Just saying; I'm not going to pay in order to watch my favorite BW players play Sc2.


That's your right. I honestly can't see why they would care though if you say that as if it's your moral code. Give them a chance to create an exciting product and then decide if it's worth any money to you.

Alright fair enough, I can do that. Not going to hold my breath but let's wait & see.
o choro é livre
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 00:46:45
May 16 2012 00:46 GMT
#75
[exclusivity] doesn't mean that players won't attend other events, potentially

(ie if we give permission then they might show up at other events, but we're not going to explicitly say that)

...

Let's be clear on what that means.

But what part of exclusivity means is that if we ask, KeSPA will seriously consider it as opposed to just saying no. So, let's be clear on that, there is special treatment happening here, for the lack of a better term, and that's part of the business relationship. It's not like everybody else gets to just do this, that's not the way this thing works. This is an exclusive partnership on a global level.

So much dancing around the part of the answer that they know is unpopular. Sundance already spilled the beans on the mini-SotG, so it's quite frustrating (though understandable) that they're attempting to spin this.
black_ICE
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
May 16 2012 01:04 GMT
#76
On May 16 2012 00:52 Kilby wrote:
I know Orlando is in Florida but does it have a beach?


No. Orlando is located in central Florida. There are lakes though, I'm thinking they possibly mean Lake Buena Vista where an old children's TV show was recorded which had sand, but calling it a beach would be a mistake. Answers from MLG always seem like corporate statements/bulletpoints and if they try to deviate from that they sound poorly thought out.
"We turn ourselves in now, they'll give us 20 years in the electric chair." - Darren Roskow
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 16 2012 01:48 GMT
#77
My god, so little substance. Their question dodging skills are off the hook.
Ladnil
Profile Joined July 2011
United States93 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 04:31:31
May 16 2012 04:30 GMT
#78
If it weren't for this deal, KeSPA would have done one of three things:

A) Find another partner for pretty much the same deal. Then the internet just be mad at someone else, though perhaps less so because then it wouldn't come with the preexisting meme that MLG is the corporate overlord trying to take over and squeeze cash out of the SC2 scene.

B) Stay within Korea. Then we just see a whole bunch of bickering on the forums about whether KeSPA or GOM has the real best tournment in the world, but KeSPA players pretty much never play outside tournaments to find out.

C) Die because Blizzard won't let them run tournaments.

We're not going to see a world where option B or C happens, so we just get the one where a bunch of people on TL and Reddit are furious about A, as if KeSPA was just going to willingly release their players to play in Homestory and Iron Squid and GSL and Dreamhack without it.
Have a nice day.
the_business_og
Profile Joined April 2012
United States167 Posts
May 16 2012 05:10 GMT
#79
tbh there is alot of fluff in this interview without any details.. all i get from this is kespa-mlg are "exclusive"? partners and that kespa doesnt partner like this normally? that there will be upcoming "qualification process within KeSPA that decides who will get certain spots at MLG events"... seems a hell of a lot like the gom partnership minues the spot qualifiers .. also does mlg truly believe that flash bisu stork zero ect. will remain exclusive to them for the entirety of sc2? their appeal is very high now, before they even played a competetive game, but if they pull a fin/forgg and fail to meet expectations early, and their popularity decreases, this arrangement will start to crumble. however, i do like the prospect of global league, though nothing is stopping somone like ipl from doing the same without exclusive right from blizzard
shanti
jsemmens
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States439 Posts
May 16 2012 06:23 GMT
#80
Now that MLG says that they and KESPA share the same core values, I'm even more worried about this than I was before...
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