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Code S RO32: Group F Recap


By: Waxangel

Results from Live Report Thread by Seeker.

+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Match 1
(T)MMA <GSL Cloud Kingdom> (P)Squirtle
(T)MMA <Daybreak> (P)Squirtle
(T)MMA <Dual Sight 1.1> (P)Squirtle

Match 2
(Z)Leenock <Daybreak> (T)NaDa
(Z)Leenock <Entombed Valley> (T)NaDa
(Z)Leenock <> (T)NaDa

Match 3
(P)Squirtle <ESV Ohana RE> (Z)Leenock
(P)Squirtle <Dual Sight 1.1> (Z)Leenock
(P)Squirtle <> (Z)Leenock

Match 4
(T)MMA <ESV Ohana RE> (T)NaDa
(T)MMA <Antiga Shipyard 1.2> (T)NaDa
(T)MMA <> (T)NaDa

Match 5
(Z)Leenock <Entombed Valley> (T)MMA
(Z)Leenock <Antiga Shipyard 1.2> (T)MMA
(Z)Leenock <> (T)MMA



Squirtle evolves to Code S Ro16
Leenock advances to Code S Ro16
MMA falls to Code A Ro32
NaDa falls to Code A Ro48



Out with the old, in with the (kind of) new

(T)MMA has had one of the best careers in the history of Starcraft II, while (T)NaDa can claim without exaggeration to be a true esports legend. However, their reputations meant nothing in Code S' group F, as rising stars (P)Squirtle and (Z)Leenock dismantled the veterans. The two Terran stalwarts looked outmatched, losing lopsidedly in several of their games, and the only victory between the two came when MMA defeated Nada.


Evolved and ready for war

Amazing what a little confidence can do for a guy. Or, maybe, after going on a hellish run at IPL4, with forty nine games played, victories over ToD, Byun, SaSe, Ace, PuMa, Creator, MC, Bomber, MKP, MMA, and Nestea, and a 32 – 17 overall record, it's A LOT of confidence. Whatever the case, IPL4 seems to have transformed (P)ST_Squirtle, turning him from a talented but extremely streaky player into one that can play championship level Starcraft at will.

Squirtle continued his roll in Code S, taking down superstars MMA and Leenock in some remarkably one-sided series. Though it was well-known beforehand that MMA and Leenock suffered against Protoss, it didn't take away from the fact that Squirtle played very well, showing that the clock had not yet struck midnight on his Cinderella story.

Squirtle seemed to have some jitters in his first match, losing an ugly game to MMA after some fatal mismanagement of high templars. However, he came back with cool, collected play in games two and three, expertly deflecting a bunker rush and deftly executing a non-all in version of a one-base blink stalker rush respectively, to take the lead in the games. From his advantageous position, Squirtle switched into the two base colossus play that allowed him to defeat MMA at IPL4, and once again, the SlayerS ace had no answer.

In the winners' match, Squirtle used a +1 gateway all-in to make short work of an unwisely zergling heavy Leenock in the first game, and seemed to be on his way to an easy second win when another two-base timing attack took out Leenock's third base in game two. However, Leenock recovered well enough to switch into both burrowed roaches and mutalisks, and used multi-prong, backdoor tactics to the fullest to claw his way back into the game. Squirtle looked like he was having a hard time staying on top of things at times, but he managed to stabilize and build up an army while never falling to the temptation of rolling the dice on a base trade. Leenock eventually wore himself out with his guerilla tactics, and Squirtle was able to take a well-deserved spot in the Ro16.


Terran Terror

(Z)FXOLeenock was outmatched by Squirtle, but in turn, he completely dominated his group's two Terrans to take the second spot in Code S. Against Nada, he saw straight through the Tornado Terran's creative mech into bio build, and rushed to hive to tear apart a nearly defenseless Terran army with Brood Lords.

There was a little more variety in his games against MMA, but the dominance was all the same. MMA attempted an old school, 4-rax marine + SCV all-in in game one, a tactic that very nearly worked. However, MMA couldn't micro his marines and SCVs well enough against Leenock's banelings and was held off without inflicting enough damage. It was a simple matter for Leenock to then repay MMA with an old school strategy of his own, counter-attacking and finishing MMA with a massive, slow baneling bust.

Game two saw MMA try to go for his signature Antiga Shipyard TvZ, applying constant, annoying pressure while building up a strong three-base foundation. Leenock decided he would have none of it, and charged in with an uppercut straight to the liver. With three bases, 2/2 speedlings, and a ton of infestors, Leenock broke right through MMA's front door. MMA showed Boxer-like resiliency to stay in the game, but Leenock's initial barrage had already done him in. A deadly hive medley soon followed from Leenock, and MMA GG'd out as ultralisks danced.


Disappointment for Terran stars

It was an ugly day for two of the most popular Terrans in the world, as they were shown up by two rising contenders. After making it seem like Code A was beneath him, taking down Creator and Maru to reach Code S, (T)coL.NaDa himself looked out of his depth in the GSL's premiere competition. His creative mech-bio build was cut apart about Leenock, while his mech TvT was similarly dismantled by MMA.

Despite beating up on last place Nada, (T)SlayerS_MMA looked no better on the night. Unable to escape from his reputation as a weak TvP player, MMA was outmatched even in his vaunted TvZ. Leenock vs MMA was supposed to be the highlight of the night, but it turned out to be nothing but a campaign advertisement for Leenock's ZvT presidency.


Game of the night: (P)ST_Squirtle vs (Z)FXO Leenock - Game Two

Squirtle used a two-base timing to take down Leenock's third base early, but the game was far from over at that point. Leenock used all of Zerg's mobility and abused Dual Sight's unique terrain to keep Squirtle off balance and try to force a fatal mistake. However, Squirtle showed great composure, prioritizing correctly and positioning his army well enough to put out most of the fires. Squirtle then did a fantastic job of corralling Zerg units on the notoriously open, backstabby map to finish off Leenock.

Code S RO32: Group G Preview


By: Waxangel

(P)SlayerS_Puzzle, (P)Quantic.NaNiwa, (T)SlayerS_Ryung, (T)IMMvp

The day has finally come. Fourteen IEM penalty points, ten GSL losses, eight teams, seven probes, six GSL championships' worth defeated, one blown TSL3 final, one MLG Dallas Championship and one seed-worthy MLG Providence later, (P)Quantic.NaNiwa will finally play in the world's most prestigious tournament. It's been a long journey for one of the few foreigners with the combination of determination and skill to try and make it in Korea, and in NaNiwa's reckoning, the journey won't be over until he wins Code S. But this is an important milestone nonetheless, and hopefully, for fans of foreigners everywhere, it will be the first step, but not the last.

NaNiwa's more recent victories over Koreans have come mostly against Zerg and Protoss opponents, while he's had only a few chances to face off against Korean Terrans. In general, there haven't been too many NaNiwa PvTs to watch in the last few months, which makes this two Terran group an intriguing prospect. Interestingly enough, NaNiwa mentioned in a recent TL interview that he actually feels more confident against Terran than Zerg – which will lighten the hearts of NaNiwa fans considering that he beat Leenock and Nestea in February. Additionally, living in the Startale house with PvT imba-master PartinG surely hasn't hurt NaNiwa's PvT game, and perhaps some of the know-how will have rubbed off.

At least, he'll go into the group with the knowledge that he can beat the scariest opponent in his group, the three time champion (T)IMMvp. Alongside NaNiwa, Mvp might be the player who has the most to prove. NaNiwa said he doesn't feel like he deserves the Code S seed, but he'll sure as hell be trying to prove that he does. On the other hand, Code S' most accomplished player is facing an entirely different struggle, trying to prove that he's still a championship contender.

Mvp has been a fairly ordinary Code S player in 2012, which by his golden standard, is about equivalent to being high masters on NA. Somewhere between Sniper and IdrA, players who beat Mvp stopped looking better for winning, and it became just Mvp looking worse for losing. Going into this group, the scariest thing about Mvp's 2012 play is that he slumped while playing his previously invincible match-ups of TvT and TvZ. If that's the case, then how will he fair in a group with two Protoss, the race that was considered his weakness even when he was on top of the world?

Still, if we've learned anything from over a decade of Korean esports, it's that you can never count out a champion. The game is always changing and evolving, and by that very nature, no one can stay on top forever. However, players who had the skill to dominate in one age usually find a way to bounce back and stay relevant in another, adapting their games to fit the times. In Starcraft II, both Nestea and MC had their minor stumbles, but came back as still dangerous players. It might be hard for Mvp to rise to the absolute summit of Starcraft II once more, but we should have the faith in him that his eternal fate is not as an Code S RO32 player.

...and to completely shift gears, how about a final bit of bad news for Mvp? His first opponent is (T)SlayerS_Ryung, who happens to be a MSPaint TvT specialist, and also happens to be the main guy who helped MMA practice each time he crushed Mvp in an important finals. Despite being two of the biggest beneficiaries of Terran's heyday in 2011 and the ensuing TvT extravaganza, the two never ended up facing each other, making this their first relevant meeting in a very long time. It's probably just as bad news for Ryung as it is for Mvp, because 1 – 4 to Gumiho or not, Mvp is still f***ng Mvp, and no one wants to face him when he's had weeks to prepare for you in his first match.

On the TvP side of the story, Ryung is in even more trouble than Mvp, as he had a hard time beating Protoss players even in the days when the imba cries were reversed. His recent record isn't any better, so Ryung really will need to have made the best of his preparation period and brought some sweet strategies to prevail in this group.

Rounding out the group is Puzzle, who is... Puzzle. Yeah, (P)SlayerS_Puzzle is pretty good, I guess. Of the players leading the Protoss revival in Code S, Puzzle is one of the best, but is the most vanilla as well. Is being too plain something you can call a weakness? Puzzle has good mechanics, makes good decisions, and mixes up all-ins and straight up games at a pretty good ratio. At least we know from Brood War, that being plain isn't a fatal flaw, though it's worked out so far that we've had almost entirely interesting champions in SC II. Watch out, Starcraft II, you're due your (T)Mind one day.

Puzzle feasted on the mid-tier TvP players last GSL, with his quarter-final run built entirely upon TvP wins against Nada, Keen, MMA, and SuperNova. However, he got his clock cleaned by Gumiho in the quarter-finals, in a series oddly reminiscent of his quarter-final elimination against Jjakji in Code S November. Both times, he looked like he was evenly matched up against his opponent on paper, but while Jjakji and Gumiho rose to the occasion, Puzzle seemed to stay on the same level. Against Ryung, this shouldn't be much of a problem, but Mvp could be trouble.


Predictions and overall outlook

Mvp is the #1 pick to make it out, though it's definitely possible that he hasn't bottomed out yet, and will slip even further before starting to recover (barring retirement from wrist injury, I'm confident that he'll eventually regain some of his past form at some point). However, considering we had the faith in him and Nestea to place them at #7 and #8 in the IPL4 power rank, I'm gonna stick to my guns. Nestea repaid that faith with a good showing at IPL4, and I think Mvp can do the same in the GSL.

While I think Mvp will make it out someway, somehow, the rest of the group is up in the air. Predicting NaNiwa vs Puzzle is nearly impossible. Even going by recent PvP records, there's not much between them, not that a short winning/losing streak for either of them would have meant anything anyway. There are a number of match-up combinations I can see where either NaNi or Puzzle get through, through a mix of skill and luck. Any combination of Win PvP + Beat Ryung seems the most likely, but we've also seen players get through on PvP-PvT-PvP sandwiches in the past.

There's definitely less scenarios where I see Ryung getting through, due to his weakness in TvP. But it would be wrong to leave him for dead, especially considering he has a very decent chance of beating Mvp in the first match. He's not likely to beat two Protoss players in the same day, but if he can get past Mvp, he only needs two clever all-ins, or two inspired games to make it through.

Predictions:

NaNiwa > Puzzle
Mvp > Ryung
Mvp > NaNiwa
Puzzle > Ryung
NaNiwa > Puzzle

Mvp and NaNiwa advance. Ah well, being undecided on PvP, might as well go with the foreigner then?


















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Bañe-ata by shiroiusagi.





Writers: Waxangel.
Graphics and Art: Meko and shiroiusagi.
Editor: Waxangel.
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TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
April 12 2012 17:34 GMT
#2
Gogo Nani!! Good write up! :D
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vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 12 2012 17:38 GMT
#3
gogo MVP reclaim your throne!
JiPrime
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Canada688 Posts
April 12 2012 17:38 GMT
#4
That gif is real cute. <3
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
April 12 2012 17:39 GMT
#5
Let's see if Naniwa is worthy
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Jongl0
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631 Posts
April 12 2012 17:39 GMT
#6
Nice read, stoked for tomorrow.
Verator
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United States283 Posts
April 12 2012 17:42 GMT
#7
I don't feel MVP's wrists can allow him to perform well enough, at least until he gets them treated. Gonna go with both protoss players advancing actually.
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 12 2012 17:43 GMT
#8
Time to see just how bad MVP's injuries are, and just how worthy NaNi is of his Code S seed.
dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
April 12 2012 17:43 GMT
#9
NANIWA FIGHTING FIGHTING FIGHTIN! GO swede GO Represent the world!!!! FOR THE FOREIGNERS :D
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DayWalk3r
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada192 Posts
April 12 2012 17:48 GMT
#10
Dunno i i would bet on terrans with their rut lately ... prolly nani and puzzle to advance
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Cloudsong
Profile Joined October 2010
Luxembourg69 Posts
April 12 2012 17:49 GMT
#11
gogog MVP
GG
EmperorKira
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom107 Posts
April 12 2012 17:52 GMT
#12
He predicted Naniwa and MVP would go through. Thank god my liquibets are on the other two lol
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 12 2012 17:52 GMT
#13
Ryung>MVP
Nani>Puzzle
Puzzle>MVP
Ryung>Nani
Puzzle>Nani
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Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
April 12 2012 17:52 GMT
#14
I hope that they stop seeding foreigners into Code S after this season, I don't think Naniwa has much of a shot.
Waxangel
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United States33397 Posts
April 12 2012 17:54 GMT
#15
Why is Ryung the largest in the front page image?
  1. I dunno.
  2. Liquid`Ryung.
  3. Ryung paid us at IPL4 for more exposure.
  4. It was the easiest way to photoshop the picture.
  5. There was no resizing, his head is actually to scale.
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Netherlands8351 Posts
April 12 2012 17:55 GMT
#16
I will root for Naniwa but i think Puzzle is the more experienced player and better prepared for PvT.
MVP and Puzzle to advance !
vndods
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United States3743 Posts
April 12 2012 17:56 GMT
#17
not a bad choice to liquibet both protosses despite me wanting MVP to advance.
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Vietnam8333 Posts
April 12 2012 17:58 GMT
#18
poor Ryung. Acne owns face so badly
Chr15t
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Denmark1103 Posts
April 12 2012 18:00 GMT
#19
On April 13 2012 02:54 Waxangel wrote:
Why is Ryung the largest in the front page image?
  1. I dunno.
  2. Liquid`Ryung.
  3. Ryung paid us at IPL4 for more exposure.
  4. It was the easiest way to photoshop the picture.
  5. There was no resizing, his head is actually to scale.


Obviously 5. is the real answer ;D
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FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
April 12 2012 18:00 GMT
#20
I hate to see GSL champs get knocked out in ro32, but it's looking pretty grim this season...
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 12 2012 18:04 GMT
#21
On April 13 2012 02:52 EmperorKira wrote:
He predicted Naniwa and MVP would go through. Thank god my liquibets are on the other two lol

Preview was by Waxangel, not Fionn, no worries.
QCD.GRudge
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands13 Posts
April 12 2012 18:09 GMT
#22
Hope naniwa can pull to the RO4 at least. From what I can remember Jinro was the last non-korean to get that far.
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 12 2012 18:11 GMT
#23
On April 13 2012 03:09 QCD.GRudge wrote:
Hope naniwa can pull to the RO4 at least. From what I can remember Jinro was the last non-korean to get that far.

That's incredibly optimistic...
vanhio
Profile Joined November 2010
Niue1017 Posts
April 12 2012 18:12 GMT
#24
Go nani&MVP!
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
April 12 2012 18:13 GMT
#25
Holy Mackanaw intense group I'm so excited pulling an all-nighter tonight. Exam review and NANIWER FIGHTING! He seriously looks demented in the front-page collage though, I hope he can harness that inner 7 probe rush tonight, Puzzle is no joke. I'm hoping MVP and Ryung have off days or something.

Hopefully if the worst case scenario happens with Naniwa losing, he doesn't go on a blame rampage, however much it may be justified.*



* Referring to his latest thread on TL in which he blamed his practice partners for leaking his strategies to his opponents in this group, subsequently Naniwa got temped on TL as tensions grew high.
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
April 12 2012 18:13 GMT
#26
So exited for Naniwa, this is probably the match I've been the most exited for in Starcraft 2 yet. But I'll be unable to watch most of it probably because I've got to take a train that leaves aproximately in the middle of the matches, and I have to travel to the train and then on the train in the start there is tunnels that kills my mobile interwebs .
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 18:15:16
April 12 2012 18:14 GMT
#27
On April 13 2012 03:11 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 03:09 QCD.GRudge wrote:
Hope naniwa can pull to the RO4 at least. From what I can remember Jinro was the last non-korean to get that far.

That's incredibly optimistic...

Yah, imo, as long as he doesn't get knocked out of GSL, I'll be really happy. And if he makes it so he's code S next season that would be insanely awesome.
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
April 12 2012 18:17 GMT
#28
Mvp hwaiting!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
April 12 2012 18:18 GMT
#29
Can you tell us what Fionn's prediction is?
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
April 12 2012 18:19 GMT
#30
On April 13 2012 03:11 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 03:09 QCD.GRudge wrote:
Hope naniwa can pull to the RO4 at least. From what I can remember Jinro was the last non-korean to get that far.

That's incredibly optimistic...


Yeah, being the first code s sponsor seed not ending 4th in his group would already be quite good...

I wonder in what shape are mvp wrists, if it's as bad as it seemed, I don't think he can win here :/
Gluon
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands393 Posts
April 12 2012 18:20 GMT
#31
MSPaint, what the hell :p?
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
April 12 2012 18:21 GMT
#32
On April 13 2012 03:18 Zeroxk wrote:
Can you tell us what Fionn's prediction is?


after that disastrous 0/8 stretch or whatever it was last season, Fionn's come up to about normal

we're hitting exactly 50% this season so far -_-;
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
April 12 2012 18:22 GMT
#33
Naniwa takes this in a big shock to the haters. Nani takes out Puzzle and then pulls an interesting cheese in the first game into a macro win in game 3 against Ryung.

Puzzle deflates and Ryung shocks all to come second in the group.
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Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
April 12 2012 18:27 GMT
#34
GO NANIWA <3 <3 <3 (btw Fionn please don't reveal your predictions...)
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marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
April 12 2012 18:30 GMT
#35
For the first time in a while I read through the group prediction and it now im really excited for tomorrow!
Dac
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada538 Posts
April 12 2012 18:33 GMT
#36
On April 13 2012 03:27 Coal wrote:
GO NANIWA <3 <3 <3 (btw Fionn please don't reveal your predictions...)

LOL maybe that is a good idea.

I believe in Naniwa's PvP and with a bit of luck he will win the PvT second game.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 12 2012 18:34 GMT
#37
puzzle mvp is my vote
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 12 2012 18:35 GMT
#38
On April 13 2012 03:21 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 03:18 Zeroxk wrote:
Can you tell us what Fionn's prediction is?


after that disastrous 0/8 stretch or whatever it was last season, Fionn's come up to about normal

we're hitting exactly 50% this season so far -_-;

essentially what you would get normally by guessing at random?
Sackings
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada457 Posts
April 12 2012 18:36 GMT
#39
expecting cheese / all ins from both terrans against naniwa
naniwa fighting!!!
Kfcnoob
Profile Joined January 2011
United States296 Posts
April 12 2012 18:36 GMT
#40
could u not spoil the results of the GSL with ur teamliquid.net mainpage caption?
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
April 12 2012 18:37 GMT
#41
if Nani advances yayyyyyy~ but idk if he can
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Slate
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore112 Posts
April 12 2012 18:37 GMT
#42
Holy crap fingers crossed like crazy for Mvp. Please oh god please let the King come back. PLEASE.
GM T on SEA.
Anachromy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 18:39:14
April 12 2012 18:38 GMT
#43
Gotta go with the foreigner hope on this one.

This is your time to shine Nani. Embrace it.
][Primarch][
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 18:41:25
April 12 2012 18:40 GMT
#44
Puzzle and Naniwa will EZ through the group. MVP would struggle against worse protoss than those and Ryung wouldn't be able to take down decent foreign protoss players in a BO3.

I really regret buying a yearly ticket from Gom, I can't manage to enjoy any game with a protoss in it TT.
Huge fan of Empire Kas, The Destroyer of Worlds, The Machine, The Second Terminator, The Supreme Robot!
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 12 2012 18:42 GMT
#45
On April 13 2012 03:36 Kfcnoob wrote:
could u not spoil the results of the GSL with ur teamliquid.net mainpage caption?


There is a nice, little "Hide Spoiler" option for you in the bottom left of the mainpage.
Rockztar
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark210 Posts
April 12 2012 18:45 GMT
#46
The Ryung Paint joke made me rofl. xD People should definitely go check out his "art", if they haven't already!
gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
April 12 2012 18:47 GMT
#47
That nani face... the nani face...
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 12 2012 18:51 GMT
#48
Brain tells me MVP and Puzzle will go through, heart says MVP and Naniwa.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Neantix
Profile Joined September 2011
France139 Posts
April 12 2012 18:55 GMT
#49
If Naniwa advance in code S, tomorrow can be an awesome day
p1cKLes
Profile Joined November 2010
United States342 Posts
April 12 2012 18:57 GMT
#50
I hope Naniwa wins too. I see a lot of potential in him to make it all the way to the top, but it seems like he always loses to the silly stuff.

I hope this time he gets in there like a bulldog and just tears it up.
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
April 12 2012 19:06 GMT
#51
Come on Nani! gogogo!
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
April 12 2012 19:12 GMT
#52
On April 13 2012 02:42 Verator wrote:
I don't feel MVP's wrists can allow him to perform well enough, at least until he gets them treated. Gonna go with both protoss players advancing actually.

pretty much that. and considering recent dismantlement of T by P...
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Hamdemon
Profile Joined September 2011
United States348 Posts
April 12 2012 19:20 GMT
#53
Incoming 0-2 Nani loss, would like to see him prove me wrong but given he couldn't even handle code A with all the chances he was given I'm not optimistic.
"All warfare is based on deception." - Sun Tzu
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
April 12 2012 19:26 GMT
#54
i think i might be rooting for the terrans tonight
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 19:29:16
April 12 2012 19:28 GMT
#55
I so very much want Naniwa to roflstomp and to advance but at the same time it's almost scary how much pressure he must be under going into this. Not participating in any of the recent big tournaments but just focusing on good practice in Korea means that all eyes are on him now and people are really expecting him to show his worth. That might be a very difficult position. Hopefully he hasn't paid too much attention to all the hype and threads like this (the first paragraph of the this RO32 group G preview is pure awesomeness and I know if I was Naniwa my hands would be shaking after reading that).

Goooo Nani!!
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
April 12 2012 19:29 GMT
#56
I have a feeling that Naniwa is going to advance.
modesttoss
Profile Joined June 2011
United States221 Posts
April 12 2012 19:32 GMT
#57
Gogogogo Naniwa! :D
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 12 2012 19:33 GMT
#58
Imma liquibet Puzzle/MVP, but my hopes and prayers lies with my fellow swede
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
April 12 2012 19:35 GMT
#59
mvp and puzzle to go through
IM & EG supporter
Acidosis
Profile Joined April 2011
United States172 Posts
April 12 2012 19:37 GMT
#60
This might be the easiest group Naniwa could ask for. Starts out with a PvP that he can obviously take since he shown at MLG that he could beat JYP and MC. It then depends on how Ryung does against MVP which I think Ryung can win since MVP's condition is still unknown and Ryung has always been good at TvT.. Ryung is, however, not so spectacular in his TvP and if Naniwa could reach a long macro game, I think he could take it. Regardless, this group really depends on MVP's condition.
“The will to win is not nearly as important as the will to prepare to win.” -BK
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
April 12 2012 19:37 GMT
#61
Naniwa 0-12 incoming
eFonSG
Profile Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
April 12 2012 19:40 GMT
#62
You seriously underestimate Puzzle, the guys is reallly good.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 12 2012 19:41 GMT
#63
I'm a big NaNiwa supporter, but I think saying that he'll advance is a little audacious. I don't think he'll absolutely bomb, but I think his record will look something like: Loss versus Puzzle, win versus Ryung, loss versus Puzzle. Getting a win in the rematch is how I see him advancing in the group. Maybe today will be one of MVP's off days and we'll see NaNiwa paired off with him instead of Ryung, but I'm pretty confident that NaNiwa can handle either Terran in the group. It's PvP that I'm concerned with.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
April 12 2012 19:41 GMT
#64
Naniwa got a pretty good group I must say, but I think MVP will be on fire!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
April 12 2012 19:41 GMT
#65
Really hope that Naniwa can pull through this group. This seems to be one of the easier groups and if Mvp's wrists are still affecting his play, it's possible to seem him in the bottom two. Go Naniwa/Mvp!
essencez
Profile Joined February 2012
342 Posts
April 12 2012 19:44 GMT
#66
Mvp is coming back! Still I don't see why people are putting so much doubt on Mvp's TvP. Given the small enough samplesize the only TvP sets he has lost in 2011 is against MC at MLG providence which he came back to 3:0 MC from the loser bracket. Prior to that a 2:1 loss to NaNiWa. Those two along with Genius/Alicia adds up to a total of 4 sets lost to protoss in the entire 2011 year. Very far from being 'weak'.
essence.gg - "Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett
stichtom
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy695 Posts
April 12 2012 19:44 GMT
#67
GOGOGO MVP
It's your time.
Favourite player: IM.MVP ~ Favorite league: IPL
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
April 12 2012 19:45 GMT
#68
I'm cheering for naniway but i don't see him advancing. It's a matter of pressure. GSL makes them crazy.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
April 12 2012 19:45 GMT
#69
Leave Mvp alone, he has wrist problems
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
April 12 2012 19:48 GMT
#70
Nani should be able to beat Puzzle, his PvP is pretty good, be beat MC before so no problem. Also MVP and Ruynh isn't really in a good form right now, so he has a decent chance to prove himself tho.
R3DT1D3
Profile Joined January 2012
285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 19:49:25
April 12 2012 19:48 GMT
#71
On April 13 2012 02:54 Waxangel wrote:
Why is Ryung the largest in the front page image?
  1. I dunno.
  2. Liquid`Ryung.
  3. Ryung paid us at IPL4 for more exposure.
  4. It was the easiest way to photoshop the picture.
  5. There was no resizing, his head is actually to scale.


Should have been a poll. I'm rooting for Ryung and Naniwa since they're the most interesting out of the group.
9001
Profile Joined May 2011
771 Posts
April 12 2012 19:49 GMT
#72
things may look bleak, but i'm still supporting Ryung all the way!
Kim Dong-Won fightingggg!
MSL 2052-2053 WE BELIEVE!
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
April 12 2012 19:52 GMT
#73
Time for Naniwa to prove himself!
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
vorxaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada245 Posts
April 12 2012 19:54 GMT
#74
most likely two tosses advance, theyve finally figured out how to effectively go both colossi and high templars, and i dont think terrans have found a good counter yet, other than through brute force/even sicker micro
mDuo13
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States307 Posts
April 12 2012 19:56 GMT
#75
I'd love to see Naniwa take it and I think he has the skills to pull through, but I worry that he'll defeat himself with the pressure to do well on the GSL stage. Just because Puzzle is boring doesn't mean he can't come out and knock out everyone on the way to proving he's no joke.

Given that MVP skipped IPL partly on the basis of his wrist injuries, and TvP has been his achilles heel anyway, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he divebombs out of this group. Ryung could go either way, but if BoxeR's Forgotten Son feels like he has something to prove, he could definitely show up and destroy anyone in the group to win.

Predicting Ryung & Puzzle to advance. Hoping I'm wrong.
kruxey
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria168 Posts
April 12 2012 19:56 GMT
#76
In a perfect world(for me):
Naniwa>Puzzle
Ryung>MVP
Naniwa>Ryung
Puzzle>MVP
Puzzle>ryung
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 20:01:46
April 12 2012 19:58 GMT
#77
Same prediction same reason. Just can't count out MVP, especially considering we haven't seen much of him lately to really know his condition. Just like with Nestea before IPL4. IM seems to think he's going to do fine according to their twitter.

As for Naniwa, he has a PvP, and a terran aside from MVP with a rep for bad TvP. I think he can make it.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
April 12 2012 19:59 GMT
#78
Really depends on Mvp. If he plays 2011 he will win. If he plays 2012 he will lose. Especially these Iron Squid games, he played just so BAD. </3
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Ozira
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden150 Posts
April 12 2012 20:00 GMT
#79
GL naniwa! <3
RunningInSquares
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States215 Posts
April 12 2012 20:06 GMT
#80
Given the state of MVP's arms, I think Nani actually has a shot at this. Additionally, I would consider favoring Puzzle over MVP when it comes down to the swing match to see who makes it with Nani.
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
April 12 2012 20:07 GMT
#81
The way these players have been playing lately, I think this is a pretty weak group.

I'm predicting MVP and Puzzle to make it out
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
April 12 2012 20:10 GMT
#82
IN THEIR TOUNGUE HE IS DOVAKIIN
AUTISMBORN
go naniwa!
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 12 2012 20:15 GMT
#83
I agree with these predictions...



NANIWA FIGHTING!!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
April 12 2012 20:18 GMT
#84
I hope MVP crushes this group - he is the true Terran champion of this game.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
April 12 2012 20:22 GMT
#85
On April 13 2012 04:37 HeroHenry wrote:
Naniwa 0-12 incoming

boy somebody doesnt like foreigners
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 12 2012 20:22 GMT
#86
On April 13 2012 05:10 ptrpb wrote:
IN THEIR TOUNGUE HE IS DOVAKIIN
AUTISMBORN
go naniwa!

Amen to that lol
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 12 2012 20:31 GMT
#87
YES YES YES YES

naniwa fighting!!!!!
][Primarch][
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden302 Posts
April 12 2012 20:32 GMT
#88
Naniwa wont even drop a map....you read it here first!
Huge fan of Empire Kas, The Destroyer of Worlds, The Machine, The Second Terminator, The Supreme Robot!
ShotgunMike
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden241 Posts
April 12 2012 20:35 GMT
#89
Hope that Nani can make it and move on. But it will be difficult, and perhaps it is him himself that is the largest hurdle. He has put sooooo much pressure on himself for these games.
Hot_Bid: "B10" - ThorZain: "BINGO" - Naniwa: "Apologize! ¤%#¤#&¤% Terran IMBA"
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 12 2012 20:35 GMT
#90
I think the PvT_T will finally end tomorrow! Gogo Ryung!
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
April 12 2012 20:35 GMT
#91
On April 13 2012 03:33 Dac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 03:27 Coal wrote:
GO NANIWA <3 <3 <3 (btw Fionn please don't reveal your predictions...)

LOL maybe that is a good idea.

I believe in Naniwa's PvP and with a bit of luck he will win the PvT second game.


Nexus first or die trying, no matter the match-up!

I do hope Nani, makes it to Ro8 this season. Foreigners need a star player while Huk (and Idra?!?!) are recuperating.
GoingGoingGone
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Slovakia529 Posts
April 12 2012 20:41 GMT
#92
" Predicting NaNiwa vs Puzzle is nearly impossible."

True. Liquibet on Puzzle, rooting for Naniwa. It'll be a protoss and MVP making it out.
Busy night, but there's always room for another... unless the servers are down.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
April 12 2012 20:44 GMT
#93
On April 13 2012 05:35 Pipeline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 03:33 Dac wrote:
On April 13 2012 03:27 Coal wrote:
GO NANIWA <3 <3 <3 (btw Fionn please don't reveal your predictions...)

LOL maybe that is a good idea.

I believe in Naniwa's PvP and with a bit of luck he will win the PvT second game.


Nexus first or die trying, no matter the match-up!

I do hope Nani, makes it to Ro8 this season. Foreigners need a star player while Huk (and Idra?!?!) are recuperating.

Ever heard of Stephano? Lol.

But I agree, hopefully nani can prove himself.
I love crazymoving
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
April 12 2012 20:45 GMT
#94
No more protoss pleaseee
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
April 12 2012 20:46 GMT
#95
On April 13 2012 03:21 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 03:18 Zeroxk wrote:
Can you tell us what Fionn's prediction is?


we're hitting exactly 50% this season so far -_-;


Wax 100% Fionn 0% is still 50%!

=p

Poor Nada, has to deal with Byun in Code A now. Could be eliminated :O
Dac
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada538 Posts
April 12 2012 20:52 GMT
#96
On April 13 2012 04:37 Acidosis wrote:
This might be the easiest group Naniwa could ask for. Starts out with a PvP that he can obviously take since he shown at MLG that he could beat JYP and MC. It then depends on how Ryung does against MVP which I think Ryung can win since MVP's condition is still unknown and Ryung has always been good at TvT.. Ryung is, however, not so spectacular in his TvP and if Naniwa could reach a long macro game, I think he could take it. Regardless, this group really depends on MVP's condition.


What is your bet ?
ToasteR_
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada551 Posts
April 12 2012 20:53 GMT
#97
Comon Nani, this group is yours!
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
April 12 2012 20:55 GMT
#98
Puzzle+ryung prolly. They can be happy it's Naniwa and not any other CodeS protoss they're facing.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
April 12 2012 20:55 GMT
#99
Naniwa! Foreigners hope.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
DayWalk3r
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada192 Posts
April 12 2012 20:56 GMT
#100
I voted for ryung and puzzle ... i thought id go with nani but his GSL record so fars pretty deppressing ... slayers fighting!!
Protoss not imba ... KiwiKaki MC Polt Bomber Hwaiting!
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
April 12 2012 20:57 GMT
#101
On April 13 2012 04:20 Hamdemon wrote:
Incoming 0-2 Nani loss, would like to see him prove me wrong but given he couldn't even handle code A with all the chances he was given I'm not optimistic.

Yeah, only take Nanis 6 Code A PvZ games from months ago into account and not what he showed at all other tourneys.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
April 12 2012 21:01 GMT
#102
well i hope nani performs.
Nosferatos
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 21:01:57
April 12 2012 21:01 GMT
#103
On April 13 2012 05:44 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 05:35 Pipeline wrote:
On April 13 2012 03:33 Dac wrote:
On April 13 2012 03:27 Coal wrote:
GO NANIWA <3 <3 <3 (btw Fionn please don't reveal your predictions...)

LOL maybe that is a good idea.

I believe in Naniwa's PvP and with a bit of luck he will win the PvT second game.


Nexus first or die trying, no matter the match-up!

I do hope Nani, makes it to Ro8 this season. Foreigners need a star player while Huk (and Idra?!?!) are recuperating.

Ever heard of Stephano? Lol.

But I agree, hopefully nani can prove himself.

The thing with Stephano is that he don't want to do GSL (yet).
"Show me the Raven" ~ HMS turns into a mini-nuke, going twice as fast and doing 250 damage over a large area.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
April 12 2012 21:02 GMT
#104
Did anyone besides me get Nerd-Chills because of how connected DRG and MMA are?

They rise and fall at roughly the same time, according to this article (written by Waxangel <333):

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295745
moo...for DRG
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 12 2012 21:05 GMT
#105
I have hardly ever wanted someone to advance so badly as I do with MVP now.

Nani making it would be awesome, too, but I will never bet on a foreigner winning his GSL matches, because judging from past experiences, it would be very, very unwise.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
April 12 2012 21:15 GMT
#106
MVP fighting
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
April 12 2012 21:19 GMT
#107
I wouldn't be surprised to see Naniwa and Puzzle advance, mainly due to Ryung's presence in the group: A TvT specialist with a pretty bad record in TvP. If MVP's condition hasn't improved (dem wrists T_T), Ryung could very well take him out with his impeccable TvT, and that leaves MVP down 0-1. In short,

Puzzle > Naniwa (or vice versa, doesn't really matter)
Ryung > MVP
Winner of Puzzle vs Naniwa > Ryung
Loser of Puzzle vs Naniwa > MVP
Loser of Puzzle vs Naniwa > Ryung
Miscellany
Profile Joined September 2011
Wales125 Posts
April 12 2012 21:21 GMT
#108
I've never been a huge MVP fan, but I think the scene is missing something, and something about MVP was always very special. It would be such a shame for a player who is obviously so talented and hard-working to be forced out due to injury.

So, I don't care if MVP advances or not, I just hope that he shows some great play tomorrow.

Also, although I think Puzzle is pretty special, another Terran stomping may really turn some heads.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 12 2012 21:22 GMT
#109
I haven't lost faith in you MVP.

Crush these nerds!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
INTOtheVOID
Profile Joined January 2012
United States225 Posts
April 12 2012 21:23 GMT
#110
Gogo MVP and Naniwa.
Pink Floyd's music is like a beautiful girl walking down the street who won't talk to you.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 12 2012 21:27 GMT
#111
At first, I was like "wtf why is Wikipedia on here?" Then I realized that it was actually Puzzle lmao.

Poor Naniwa. Following in the footsteps of the foreigner seed getting matched up against MVP.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Chise
Profile Joined December 2010
Japan507 Posts
April 12 2012 21:28 GMT
#112
Predicting:
Puzzle > NaNiwa
Mvp > Ryung
Puzzle > Mvp
NaNiwa > Ryung
Mvp > NaNiwa

I'm hoping for Naniwa to get through though.
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
April 12 2012 21:39 GMT
#113
Go Naniwa make Ro16 plz !!
Brood War is forever
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
April 12 2012 21:44 GMT
#114
On April 13 2012 06:27 eviltomahawk wrote:
At first, I was like "wtf why is Wikipedia on here?" Then I realized that it was actually Puzzle lmao.


Liquipedia :x
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
April 12 2012 21:46 GMT
#115
PvP is PvP and Ryung has terrible TvP so I think that Naniwa has a pretty good chance. If Mvp plays anything like he used to then he will go through and Puzzle is pretty damn good so it will be difficult but I believe in the Dragonslayer.

Naniwa fighting!
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
April 12 2012 22:07 GMT
#116
MVP and Puzzle!
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 12 2012 22:08 GMT
#117
On April 13 2012 05:10 ptrpb wrote:
IN THEIR TOUNGUE HE IS DOVAKIIN
AUTISMBORN
go naniwa!

I like you.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 12 2012 22:14 GMT
#118
Q U A N T I C
N A N I W A
F I G H T I N G ! ! !


So hyped! :D
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
April 12 2012 22:15 GMT
#119
I think Naniwa can at least beat injured MVP.

I think MVP will by last in the group, Naniwa will take 3rd.
Aquila-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
516 Posts
April 12 2012 22:16 GMT
#120
MVP fighting! Show them who is the Bonjwa!
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
April 12 2012 22:17 GMT
#121
I see it mostly Naniwa making it through, and possibly Puzzle. MVP and Ryung's TvP isn't all that great, and both Toss players should be able to beat them. Another night of Code S Terrans getting eliminated sadly
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
April 12 2012 22:22 GMT
#122
Naniwa won't get last because Lucky isn't in the group to be his kryptonite.
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 22:29:47
April 12 2012 22:23 GMT
#123
If naniwa doesnt provide an awesome game like Huk did in the up and downs, ill be very disappointed.

But given his group, he has a good chance of advancing
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Guamshin
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands295 Posts
April 12 2012 22:31 GMT
#124
Took me a while to notice the ball represtenting Puzzle.
Weeeee
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
April 12 2012 22:34 GMT
#125
Although there are good terrans in this group, its hard to put past the fact that they are against 2 tosses.

Puzzle and Naniwa can chargelot/storm their way to the next round unless Mvp beats ryung and does some new strats.
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly - Bob Marley
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 22:46:44
April 12 2012 22:40 GMT
#126
On April 13 2012 02:54 Waxangel wrote:
Why is Ryung the largest in the front page image?
  1. I dunno.
  2. Liquid`Ryung.
  3. Ryung paid us at IPL4 for more exposure.
  4. It was the easiest way to photoshop the picture.
  5. There was no resizing, his head is actually to scale.

6. Its a real photo where Ryung is closer to the camera. Puzzle is actually a disembodied face that looks like the Liquipedia logo.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 12 2012 22:51 GMT
#127
NO NADA!

Why?! You were too pretty to lose.
kiss kiss fall in love
murtas
Profile Joined December 2010
Portugal249 Posts
April 12 2012 22:51 GMT
#128
Puzzle first
Naniwa second
non-protoss to code A.


ezpz?

User was temp banned for this post.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
April 12 2012 22:58 GMT
#129
Naniwa is a code S seed. For sure he is going 0-2
Ollie
Profile Joined October 2011
United States144 Posts
April 12 2012 23:15 GMT
#130
All I know is that anytime I bet against Puzzle, he always proves me wrong.
Oz | HerO | Creator | Stork | DRG | Soulkey | Jaedong | Sniper | Byun | TaeJa | Fantasy
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
April 12 2012 23:40 GMT
#131
I am really praying that Naniwa makes it. I'm not a Naniwa fanboy or anything, but I do like the seed bonus system since it can throw unpredictable elements into Code S, such as an outsider surprising people and winning.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
April 12 2012 23:40 GMT
#132
lol@ Naniwa beating puzzle. He'll choke again and even if he played his best I'd give puzzle a 3:1 edge.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 12 2012 23:43 GMT
#133
I just hope MVP wins and Nani is eliminated. Between Puzzle and Ryung I don't really care, but I'd prefer Ryung to qualify, so there won't be so many terran tears this day.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 12 2012 23:49 GMT
#134
I'm done liquibetting for foreigners lol.

Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
April 12 2012 23:55 GMT
#135
Come on Naniwa! Sad MMA lost and Nada too... There's too many people I like T.T
straycat
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
230 Posts
April 12 2012 23:56 GMT
#136
Yeah I hope Nani wins some!

... and I hope he doesn't do something Nani-esque....
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 12 2012 23:56 GMT
#137
Isn't the only reason for MVP "slump" his wrist injury which has gotten worse? Its not really a slump if you're badly injured.

Also how did Naniwa get into code S? Where'd he get seeded from? I missed that.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 00:05:56
April 13 2012 00:05 GMT
#138
On April 13 2012 08:56 fishjie wrote:
Isn't the only reason for MVP "slump" his wrist injury which has gotten worse? Its not really a slump if you're badly injured.

Also how did Naniwa get into code S? Where'd he get seeded from? I missed that.


The ways players get into Code S:

- 8 from last seasons Round of 8
- 12 from Code A Round 3
- 10 from the Up and Down matches
- the last 2 spots are given out by GOM, they call it seeds for really good performance in (foreign) tournaments. Naniwa got his for his performance at MLG Winter Arena.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
April 13 2012 00:09 GMT
#139
I was just about ready to throw Naniwa under the bus and say he had no chance to advance in the great foreigner tradition but... Startale is playing extremely well this season and startale protoss (Parting and Squirtle) seem especially on fire, this should be a really interesting group.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
April 13 2012 00:11 GMT
#140
Gogo MVP! Heal your exploding wrist and show everyone who the true dominant force is!
Long live the King of Wings
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 13 2012 00:13 GMT
#141
NaNiwa, this is your group dude... you can do it!!!!
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
April 13 2012 00:16 GMT
#142
Really sad I can't watch this live, this was the group I was most excited for. MVP/Nani should make it out of this group.
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
April 13 2012 00:31 GMT
#143
It's MVP & Puzzle. If His wrist are now 100% healed this should not be a problem but if it is, it could be Ryung & Puzzle imo
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
Iron_
Profile Joined April 2010
United States389 Posts
April 13 2012 00:49 GMT
#144
I am pulling for MVP to overcome his ailments as well. I do see a lot of people saying that MVP and Ryung have suspect TvP, but my response to that is.... are there Terran's out there that DON'T have suspect TvP at this time? Even MKP is getting picked apart in standard games.
Surgical_Strike
Profile Joined April 2012
United States72 Posts
April 13 2012 01:05 GMT
#145
I have some hope for NANI ... but with the way things have been going with the foreign seeds... As far as MVP goes, I fear he is a part of the generation of sc2 players who were really good because no one was very good at the game. With the game making leaps and bounds.... and the young bloods {who I feel would have eventually been big time brood war pros( though it may have taken them longer to get good because the game is more figured out) if Sc2 never was created}Playing this game on an entire new level... Mvp's days may be numbered as a contender.

Ill say puzzle and ryung advance.

though ill be hoping for mvp and naniwa
Anything worth doing, is worth doing right.
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
April 13 2012 01:08 GMT
#146
I'll stay up until 6am to watch you, Naniwa. Do your best, that's all I ask as a fan. Don't give up before it's time and do all in your power and I'll cheer for you even if you don't win.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
April 13 2012 01:14 GMT
#147
On April 13 2012 10:05 Surgical_Strike wrote:
I have some hope for NANI ... but with the way things have been going with the foreign seeds... As far as MVP goes, I fear he is a part of the generation of sc2 players who were really good because no one was very good at the game. With the game making leaps and bounds.... and the young bloods {who I feel would have eventually been big time brood war pros( though it may have taken them longer to get good because the game is more figured out) if Sc2 never was created}Playing this game on an entire new level... Mvp's days may be numbered as a contender.

Ill say puzzle and ryung advance.

though ill be hoping for mvp and naniwa


Do you really believe Mvp was successful only because the game was younger? Did you watch his games? Do you not know about his wrists?
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
April 13 2012 01:22 GMT
#148
There is only one true god in SC2 and his name is MVP. God might be on a bit of a hiatus these days because of wrist issues, but when he returns (which hopefully will be now) watching him bend everyone over and murder his way to another GSL championship.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
April 13 2012 01:28 GMT
#149
Is it just me or was the "Puzzle" not there on the front-page before or I just noticed that now. Either way..... I'm laughing !
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
April 13 2012 01:32 GMT
#150
lol the gif was hilarious :D
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 13 2012 01:43 GMT
#151
On April 13 2012 10:05 Surgical_Strike wrote:
I have some hope for NANI ... but with the way things have been going with the foreign seeds... As far as MVP goes, I fear he is a part of the generation of sc2 players who were really good because no one was very good at the game. With the game making leaps and bounds.... and the young bloods {who I feel would have eventually been big time brood war pros( though it may have taken them longer to get good because the game is more figured out) if Sc2 never was created}Playing this game on an entire new level... Mvp's days may be numbered as a contender.

Ill say puzzle and ryung advance.

though ill be hoping for mvp and naniwa


no his wrists are badly injured dude. break the young blood wrists and they wouldn't be doing well either
Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
April 13 2012 02:15 GMT
#152
Predicting Naniwa to beat Puzzle not once but twice seems like a bit of a stretch to me, just foriegner hope I guess.
[stranded]: http://www.indiedb.com/games/stranded
Karakaxe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden585 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 02:44:02
April 13 2012 02:17 GMT
#153
-
Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight.
Laplaces_imp
Profile Joined January 2012
368 Posts
April 13 2012 03:23 GMT
#154
I am not that confident in any of the two terrans TvP, i think Nani and Puzzle have this...hopefully terrans figure out how to deal with protoss soon :'(
SecondHand
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States329 Posts
April 13 2012 03:27 GMT
#155
Naniwa>Puzzle
Mvp>Ryung
Mvp>Naniwa
Puzzle>Ryung
Puzzle>Naniwa

Mvp is the true god, and he will show everyone how incredible he truly is.

Although he really needs to get surgery on his wrist T.T
Ladder more, win less
Surgical_Strike
Profile Joined April 2012
United States72 Posts
April 13 2012 03:27 GMT
#156
On April 13 2012 10:14 Gorilla23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 10:05 Surgical_Strike wrote:
I have some hope for NANI ... but with the way things have been going with the foreign seeds... As far as MVP goes, I fear he is a part of the generation of sc2 players who were really good because no one was very good at the game. With the game making leaps and bounds.... and the young bloods {who I feel would have eventually been big time brood war pros( though it may have taken them longer to get good because the game is more figured out) if Sc2 never was created}Playing this game on an entire new level... Mvp's days may be numbered as a contender.

Ill say puzzle and ryung advance.

though ill be hoping for mvp and naniwa


Do you really believe Mvp was successful only because the game was younger? Did you watch his games? Do you not know about his wrists?


I dont beleive....
I fear
...... There are clearly players that fall in this category, i hope that he does not but we shall find out with how he does in the coming months and tonight
Anything worth doing, is worth doing right.
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
April 13 2012 03:29 GMT
#157
Slayers_MMA and NaDa? Kinda disappointed.. Oh well
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
silentreality
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)222 Posts
April 13 2012 04:06 GMT
#158
CMOOOOON MVP!

I wish he'd do something about his wrist already.. it sucks to see him slump like this
jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
April 13 2012 04:12 GMT
#159
MVP got this, he's going to show why everyone today why he was the most feared player in 2011.
Eat emmmmmmmmmm
John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
April 13 2012 04:29 GMT
#160
MVP is back to claim his throne!
FOOTBALL
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
April 13 2012 05:25 GMT
#161
1. Puzzle
2. Mvp
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
April 13 2012 06:18 GMT
#162
Wax, there were no "iem penalty points". Those were EPS penalties for missing gamedays and so on.
JimmyHollow
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom249 Posts
April 13 2012 06:46 GMT
#163
Gogo Nani!!
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
April 13 2012 07:02 GMT
#164
Naniwa gonna get owned, Ryung and Puzzle will advance
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
nick1689
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia494 Posts
April 13 2012 07:04 GMT
#165
Lol, Leenock a rising star? He's like top 3 Zerg in the world atm, atleast top 5. He's risen already
Negius
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands290 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 07:12:31
April 13 2012 07:11 GMT
#166
I hope Mvp can make it out of the group, I really enjoyed his stable mech playstyle and I don't want to accept the fact that his glory has gone...

For the other person that will make it out, I think Naniwa has a shot, but only if he wins his first match. In PvP anything can happen and it seems he has done a lot of training. Against Ryung/Mvp it's going to be hard but this group isn't easy for anyone.

My prodiction:
Naniwa > Puzzle (Foreigner's hope I)
Mvp > Ryung
Mvp > Naniwa
Ryung > Puzzle (Ro8 previous season means nothing this GSL)
Naniwa > Ryung (Foreigner's hope II)

If only this would be true...

Edit: spelling
[Terran] mvp | maru | innovation | mma [Protoss] mc | squirtle [Zerg] nestea | soo
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
April 13 2012 07:11 GMT
#167
I really think Nani can come through this group and I hope he does but I can't help but see him just losing to Puzzle and then just getting barely shut out by one of the terrans.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
April 13 2012 07:59 GMT
#168
On April 13 2012 08:40 Drowsy wrote:
lol@ Naniwa beating puzzle. He'll choke again and even if he played his best I'd give puzzle a 3:1 edge.

than you better follow your bet
pinnacle has naniwa and puzzle pretty close
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/E Sports/SC2 GSL/1/Lines.aspx
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
April 13 2012 09:07 GMT
#169
Lets hope nani can play to his full potential today. Seems like foreign seeds crumble under the preassure usually
crack
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 09:16:43
April 13 2012 09:15 GMT
#170
MVP needs to just retire for a year and let his wrists fully recover and come back in godmode

also fingers crossed for naniwa to get owned!
sc_hell
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany20 Posts
April 13 2012 09:25 GMT
#171
He got no chance - prepare for Proberush.
Arkanoidz
Profile Joined April 2012
Italy14 Posts
April 13 2012 10:01 GMT
#172
On April 13 2012 18:25 sc_hell wrote:
He got no chance - prepare for Proberush.


Seems like he just won against Puzzle… Yeah. I want to believe! ^___^
Miscellany
Profile Joined September 2011
Wales125 Posts
April 13 2012 10:47 GMT
#173
+ Show Spoiler +

I'm not sad that MVP lost. But I am sad that he didn't play like MVP. That mini-movie in the break made me sadface also
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
April 13 2012 10:48 GMT
#174
Naniwa played very well

Im actually surprised.
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
April 13 2012 11:19 GMT
#175
+ Show Spoiler +
Test Passed !
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Surgical_Strike
Profile Joined April 2012
United States72 Posts
April 13 2012 11:23 GMT
#176
+ Show Spoiler +
go naniwa! impressive play, he may go deep if he continues to play like that
Anything worth doing, is worth doing right.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 11:29:49
April 13 2012 11:28 GMT
#177
On April 13 2012 18:25 sc_hell wrote:
He got no chance - prepare for Proberush.

are you embarrassed after seeing results?
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
April 13 2012 11:31 GMT
#178
On April 13 2012 20:28 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 18:25 sc_hell wrote:
He got no chance - prepare for Proberush.

are you embarrassed after seeing results?


SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
SagaSan
Profile Joined December 2010
France64 Posts
April 13 2012 11:56 GMT
#179
Test Passed.
Faceroll52
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden26 Posts
April 13 2012 12:04 GMT
#180
On April 13 2012 18:25 sc_hell wrote:
He got no chance - prepare for Proberush.

You have no idea how happy i am to see NaNiWa to advance after seeing comments like this. <3
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
April 13 2012 12:08 GMT
#181
On April 13 2012 21:04 Faceroll52 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 18:25 sc_hell wrote:
He got no chance - prepare for Proberush.

You have no idea how happy i am to see NaNiWa to advance after seeing comments like this. <3


I prefer the ones in the LR that say it was an easy group and his opponents just played bad; like it matters at all even if it's true
Naniwa Code S material. End of discussion. <3
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
April 13 2012 12:13 GMT
#182
LOL im 99.9% sure Naniwa is not gonna make it any further.

I would place my bet on Parting or squirtle.

어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
prOpVikingBB2
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden273 Posts
April 13 2012 12:30 GMT
#183
OMG it is lagging so much!
I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger, then it hit me.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
April 13 2012 12:44 GMT
#184
On April 13 2012 21:13 mongmong wrote:
LOL im 99.9% sure Naniwa is not gonna make it any further.

I would place my bet on Parting or squirtle.



never predict before you see groups o_o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
April 13 2012 12:50 GMT
#185
Take over for Fionn, he's hella cursed.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
April 13 2012 13:11 GMT
#186
What have you done to Fionn? I thought all the wrong predictions were so funny.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
April 13 2012 13:16 GMT
#187
Sad for Ryung... but a champion never dies unless he's assassinated, and it takes a lot to be a champion killer.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
April 13 2012 13:21 GMT
#188
Wax, I'm so glad you still believe in MVP.. I have a ton of respect for previous champions, hoping they will never fade from the scene.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
April 13 2012 15:37 GMT
#189
YES, NANIWA, YES!

I always believed in you!
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
][Primarch][
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden302 Posts
April 13 2012 16:16 GMT
#190
There was no way for Naniwa not going through this group as there are no zergs in it, I did say earlier in this thread that Naniwa would go through EZ not dropping a map, disappointing to see him drop a map to puzzle who honestly is not close to Naniwa in PvP.
Huge fan of Empire Kas, The Destroyer of Worlds, The Machine, The Second Terminator, The Supreme Robot!
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
April 13 2012 16:18 GMT
#191
Awww yeaaa Naniwa haters gonn hate, such an appropriate title
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
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