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[GSTL] Almost There

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March 30th, 2012 20:23 GMT

Table of Contents







Almost There
Intro



MVP vs StarTale
Match Preview



Prime vs FXOpen
Match Preview



GSTL Fashion Rank
Opinion



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Almost There



After a long season of ups, downs, high points and stretches of disastrous games, the GSTL is nearly ready to crown the first champion of 2012. GOM's first team finals held outside Korea, this is truly an opportunity no group can risk giving away, a chance to meet a new legion of fans and impress on a live stage far from their normal home. Who knows, this might even be a chance for the coaches to get away for a day.

The matches this week will surpass what we have seen lately, pitting fan favorites against one another. DongRaeGu and his crew will be taking on an always uneasy StarTale in the first day, with MarineKing's hoodie-clad friends going against an FXO squad that must be out for blood after some near-misses in the last months. Either one of these matchups would have made a fine finals, and getting two of them in a single weekend will be a treat and definitely the best we have seen so far.

Expect some good matches, for next week is Vegas. We're almost there.

Semifinal 1: MVP vs StarTale

by WaxAngel


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(Wiki)MVP                 (Wiki)StarTale


Much like its individual members who have gained significant notoriety without actually having won very much, Startale continues to seem like a team of underachievers. A second place finish in the very first GSTL was the best result the team has ever achieved in team leagues, being consigned to mid-high table finishes ever since (much like their GSL players). Much of this stems from a lack of consistency from their key players, and their lack of an ace. While they possess many players who can all-kill on a good day, guys like as Bomber, Curious, Squirtle, and PartinG, but they're capable of being all-killed by a single player as well.

In that respect, MVP is actually quite similar to Startale in terms of composition. They have impressive all-around talent, with a hot Genius, sC, or Keen easily capable of taking down three or more members of the other the team. The difference, however, between being a team that doesn't live up to its talent and being the defending champions and one of the scariest teams is one player: DongRaeGu. DongRaeGu is capable of stringing together kills, doing it reliably, and is the definition of a closer. While the other MVP members have certainly gotten the job done in the clutch – like in last season's GSTL finals – DongRaeGu has always been there to carry them when they fell.

Looking at the rosters on paper, nothing says that MVP has a huge advantage. However, the mystical DongRaeGu factor puts them over the top in a huge way. StarTale should be able to compete with them evenly, but everyone will be betting on the DRG led MVP.

On Point: (P)PartinG vs (P)TAiLS on Entombed Valley


Looks like there's no ace conflict for Startale, despite Parting's strong performances in the GSL and MLG. With Entombed Valley as the first map, Startale seemed content to send out their strongest Protoss and save Bomber for last. PartinG's PvP has looked relatively weak compared to his other matchups, but we've yet to see him bring his individual brilliance to the GSTL, so this will be a good test.

As for TAiLS, I thought he had lost his position after finale stepped up to 3-kill Leenock, Oz, and GuMiho. We haven't seen much of TAiLS lately, but he is the owner of the most clutch GSTL performance ever when he beat Mvp and Nestea to rescue his team from disaster. Months of doing nothing in the GSL has ate away at some of the credit earned then, but he still has enough left for us to never question his deployment in GSTL.

Side note: The selection of TAiLS on Entombed seems like a 90% guarantee that MVP intends to preserve Genius for use on Calm Before The Storm, which would leave finale as a curious odd man out (unless finale plays on Calm instead).

Key players – Startale


(P)Squirtle: Squirtle competes with Bomber for the title of streakiest streak player on an already streaky team. They just can't figure out whether to be good or bad on any given day. Bomber at his best is obviously better than Squirtle at his best, but they are about equal in terms of being utterly unpredictable. I'm not kidding when I say Squirtle could actually all-kill MVP if he gets hot, but he could also just fold without putting up a fight.

(T)Virus: Virus has been a mystery for months. He's a seemingly mediocre player who always manages to put up better results than anyone expects. To the dismay of some, this has made him a regular Code S presence. To others, he's an endearingly plucky competitor in a dog eat dog league. Whatever your opinion of Virus might be, he's an important Terran card that backs up Bomber, yet he's pretty much guaranteed to not be accounted for properly by MVP (because no one does, to be honest). Thus, he will be in a a position to do some damage.

(Z)July: After looking rather washed up towards the end of 2011, July Zerg woke up one day in 2012 and decided that he would prefer to be in Code S, and that he preferred his team to win, rather than lose, team league games. He could yet influence the course of the GSTL.

(Z)Curious: Oddly enough, Curious' ZvT is looking a lot more scary than his ZvP in the last month. Whatever the cause is, Curious is the other more reliable player in Startale's line-up, whose performances don't vary as much on any given day. Alongside PartinG, Curious will have to secure a win or two, or else Startale will be relying on their streaky players to make up for 4+ wins.

Key players – MVP


(P)Genius: Though Genius choked in the finals, with his indecision costing him two crucial games, he definitely earned the right to be there. While his macro and micro lagged behind some of the other Protoss stars, Genius was the most intelligent in the last GSL (up to the finals, anyway), making good decisions, choosing when to engage and retreat wisely, and always thinking about the best positioning for his armies. Hopefully, he will have gotten over any post-defeat depression by now, and returned to practicing 100%. He was a proven GSTL card even before his Code S run, and if he can keep up that form, he and DRG can create the deadliest one-two punch in the GSTL.

(T)sC: Because of poor health, too much League of Legends, and whatever other reasons, sC has fallen off greatly. Perhaps it's more accurate to say that he looks the same, while everyone else around him has gotten better. However, sC was so good to begin, that falling off only means he's become a borderline Code A/S player. Hey, isn't that what the entirety of Startale minus PartinG has been for months?

(T)Keen: The most Startale-ish of the MVP players, Keen's ability to win games comes and goes like your feelings for your ex when you're reading their facebook timeline (yes, I realize some of you are stoic, MANLY MEN/WOMEN). Despite this, he's usually favored over sC as MVP's Terran card, suggesting that at least internally, he's regarded as their #1 Terran. While Noblesse and sC should be back him up adequately, Keen will have to prove that MvP's faith in him is not misplaced after some poor performances this season.

(Z)Monster: It's been important since the Brood War days to have a player of the same race as your ace to back him up *cough cough* KTFlash *cough*, and MVP has a decent card in Monster. His GSL luck hasn't been the best in the world, but MVP has given him a regular starting spot in their team league line-ups over more well known players like sC, Noblesse, and Tails (who have oddly enough, barely figured into their plans in 2012). He's rewarded them with some very nice showings for a Code B player, including a three kill against oGs.


The Aces


(Z)DongRaeGu vs (T)Bomber


Startale have been flexible about deploying Bomber at various positions in the line-up during non-elimination games, but when it's do or die time, he's always been their ace player. With PartinG starting for Startale since Entombed was drawn as the first map, it feels pretty much confirmed that Bomber will be the caboose of this StarTale train.

Now, more than ever, this seems like a risky idea. Bomber has been even more absurdly up and down these days, all-killing NS Hoseo, taking the Code B express, then clearing the Code B qualifiers like they weren't anything. Bomber has only been a mediocre closer in the past, and it seems like a better idea to play him early and get see what you'll get out of him on that given day, rather than save him until the end and hope he can bring his S game.

As for DongRaeGu... There's not much to say. GSTL has existed for less than a year, and he's already some kind of mythic entity, a super-closer demi-god who can rescue his team from any situation. His failings against MKP at MLG, and his recent fall from Code S have done a lot to hurt his reputation as an individual league player, but team leagues exist in their own, only partially connected bubble. There, DongRaeGu is still the dragon that protects the greatest prize, and will remain so until he is slain.


Overall


If everyone is on their game, Startale has the firepower to beat MVP three times over. Only one or two of their wild cards really have to get going, and it's lights out for their top-heavy opponent. It's absurd that a team with such a notable roster hasn't had more success, but Startale is just that unreliable.

In the end, I believe MVP has the edge. Forget the fact that DRG has looked weak in the past few days – he takes it to another level in the GSTL. This is his original kingdom, before he ever hopped on a flight to the USA or took a shot at Code A.

When it comes down to it, every single time, I will take the man who always delivers over a team of guys who never have.

MVP 5 – 4 Startale


Semifinal 2: Prime vs FXOpen

by Fionn


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(Wiki)Prime                 (Wiki)FXOpen


On point: (Z)BBoongBBoongPrime vs. (T)FXOGuMiho on Antiga Shipyard


Prime, after getting lucky to make it to the playoff stages last season and reel of an underdog run to the finals, has made sure no one could think their runner-up position was a fluke. With a deep line-up that has had copious amount of heroes step up through the past two seasons, Prime's teamwork and strength at every race has given them the opportunity to be one step away from the glitz and glamor of Las Vegas and the Grand Finals.

FXO, on the other hand, can have the same things said about them. From the early days when they were known as fOu, they've always been a mid-table team, not having the best line-up, but getting farther than people expected due to smart snipes and good coaching. Even with the loss of their former ace sC to MVP a few months ago, FXO has looked stronger than ever since merging the FXO and fOu clans.

With these two deep line-ups, let's have a quick breakdown on how they stack up.

Key Players


Terran: Prime has a strong Terran line-up even if MarineKing isn't in the equation. (T)MaruPrime was able to qualify in Code S as the youngest player in history and then get first in his group when he got there, and (T)GhostKingPrime is a former Code S semifinalist who three-killed Startale and is almost always atop the Korean Grandmaster ladder. FXO has (T)FXOGuMiho, a semifinalist from last season, but he didn't look particularly on point in his Code S group, going 0-2 and even losing a series to Prime's Maru. Gumiho is an amazing player who has the ability to beat anyone when he's at his best, but I can't look past his disappointing results in Code S and have to give the edge to the Prime Prodigy and the Player Formerly Known as Byun.

P.S: I am warning you now to watch out for (T)FXOasd and (T)FXOXD. asd was able to take down Supernova last week to put his team in the position to win, and its a strong possibility that these two will be used in conjunction to take down MarineKing. They might not be as strong as a Gumiho, Maru, or GhostKing, but they very well could be the key to unseating Prime.

Zerg: Prime has (Z)BBoongBBoongPrime, (Z)AnnYeongPrime and (Z)TeriousPrime while FXO, if not counting Leenock due to being their ace, will have (Z)FXOLucky and (Z)FXOSirius as their Zergs in the early and mid-point of the series. No offense to anyone of the other players, but I expect to only be seeing B4 and Lucky from the five players I just named. B4 might have been in Code S this season while Lucky wasn't able to qualify, but overall Lucky is the better player. His victory against Fin in last week's Ro6 match-up against oGsTL turned the tide for the entire series after it looked like Fin might be going for an all kill. For FXO to win this series, Lucky will need to come up big with a win or two, and I believe he has the talent to get it done.

Protoss: (P)FXOz vs. (P)CreatorPrime. Sure, (P)FXOChoya has come up big this season with some gigantic upsets like his game against MMA, but the battle of Aiur will come down to Oz and Creator for their teams. Creator loves to play greedy and was punished for it in his Up and Down groups, losing to two Terran cheeses and not being able to qualify into Code S like B4 or Maru. Creator is a great up-and-coming player and if he can become less predictable with his love of double forges and late-game play, he could become the best Protoss in the world, but right now? Oz is already one of the best Protosses in the world and has a much more varied play style. Behind Creator, Prime don't real have much in terms of Protoss with the departure of HongUn and the vanishing act of Anypro, while FXO has Oz, Choya, and the surprisingly high ELO ranked (P)FXOTear.

The Aces


(T)MarineKingPrime vs. (Z)FXOLeenock


The two best players from these teams haven't always been the best in the GSTL format, but both have come up big this season to clinch important matches. Leenock looked dominating in his Up and Down group, not dropping a single map, but his major flaw is against Protoss. He has the ability to be sniped against a strong Protoss like Creator, but I expect Leenock to be used at the end when they need to close the deal. MarineKing has been on fire, winning the MLG Winter and MLG Winter Championship before having an encore performance back in Korea where he topped a difficult Code S group.

Leenock is an amazing player and one of the best Zergs in the world, but MarineKing has momentum of a launching spaceship heading to the moon. He's won his first major championship, has round of sixteen in Code S already wrapped up, and he only needs a Prime victory over FXO to make the perfect week. FXO's best chance of sniping MarineKing would have been Gumiho, but with him going out first, they must have the Alphabet Terran Duo of XD and asd preparing a build of taking out MKP, or they'll rely on Leenock to kill the king,

Prediction


FXO have the second and third strongest players in this series with Oz and Leenock, but Prime possess the best player who has never had more confidence in his skill. It's going to be a close series, Choya being one of the smartest coaches in the GSTL, always finding the perfect spots to slot his players, but Prime's new Terran Trio with MKP, Maru and GhostKing is too scary to pick against. They have experience from last season's finals and while FXO could very well take the trip to Las Vegas, you can't bet against the King of Marines when he is destroying absolutely everyone in his path the last two weeks.

Prime 5 - 4 FXOpen


GSTL Fashion Ranking

by JimLloyd



We have been through a year and nearly five seasons of GSTL, and while the teams have all played each other head-to-head many times, we have no real way to determine which team is better than another. Players have come and gone and the metagame has shifted so dramatically that it’s impossible to rank them objectively.

Until now.

What follows is the most comprehensive, objective, and statistically sound ranking of Korean SC2 teams to date: my opinion of their clothes.

10. NewStar Ho Seo. With all due respect to oGs/Liquid, NSHS has the best logo in the GSTL. The three letters put together work really well, and are instantly recognizable. Their outfits, however, leave a bit to be desired. The top is a standard warm-up jacket, and I even like the colors, but when in their first match I saw Sage get up and walk to the booth, I recoiled in horror:

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Are those . . . no break, tapered-leg track pants? Where do you even get those? Tell me it’s because he’s tall and they couldn’t get a pair to fit him properly. I love Sage, and I think NSHS’s players are fantastic, but those pants are inexcusable.

9. Prime. Here’s a strange one. They have a nice logo and I like the colors (grey and red), but the design is . . . unorthodox. Which I suppose is fitting for an eSports team that doubles as a men's clothier. I like the idea of going really “out there” with their choice, but what they came up with is just not to my taste. You might think I’d like it because it’s a hoodie (sort of), but the faux leather cowl looks just a little too Star Wars for me, and the giant backpacks feel out of place. To be honest, I could rank them anywhere from ten to one. I completely understand if you think that they look awesome and that I’m completely wrong. I’m not wrong, of course, but I understand and accept that some people will think that.

8. MVP. MVP’s look isn’t too distinctive, with black hoodies over T-Shirts. Interestingly the players seem to have some control over what t-shirt to wear, sometimes there’s white peeking out, though they usually feature the team logo. But, like Prime, the hoodies are avant garde, with a series of metallic fasteners (buttons or snaps) holding the front panels together. It’s a little unusual, and I’m not entirely sure whether to rank them above or below Prime. But I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out that MVP’s star player knows how to add his own style. That white jacket DRG wore at Columbus last weekend is fantastic, and bumps them over Prime.

5, 6, 7. FXOpen, ZeNEX, StarTale. These teams are the “ordinary track suit” group. Am I grouping these together because I’m too lazy to come up with things to say about teams with substantially identical uniforms? Yes. But they actually are quite similar. FXO’s shirts are recognizable, but don’t bring anything special to the table, and the jacket and pants are standard. ZeNEX uses turquoise, which I prefer more than some other enthusiasts of athletics aesthetics, but they’re pretty much wearing the same thing as everyone else. StarTale is my particular favorite from this group – I think the prominent sponsor on their collar makes the suits look a little more motorsports-influenced – but there’s still no major difference.

Now generally, this should work. Basketball players wear tracksuits, and basketball players are cool. But the track suit by itself doesn't do much for me. When I see a bunch of guys in them I think less Tony Parker and more Tony Soprano.

4. Incredible Miracle. For a long time defined aesthetically as “terrifyingly good Starcraft players wearing McDonald's uniforms,” IM has switched out to a much better outfit. Their long sleeve T-Shirts are unobtrusive, and their down jackets are pretty appealing. Most notably, however, IM appears to be the only team with baseball caps. Every time Nestea shows up with that IM hat, people ask where they can get one. It’s also Nestea, of course, and if he wore a bright pink bowler there would be nerds crawling over one another to get their hands on them, but the IM hat is cool on its own merits.

3. Old Generations. For the longest time they wore polo shirts most closely associated with MC’s travels across the globe, first white and then with that dreadful blue pattern, terrorizing foreign gamers and losing at poker. But with MC’s departure, they’ve adopted new, vaguely military jackets, which I think look great. They’re distinctive and look strong without trying to make a bunch of professional gamers look intimidating. As an aside, I detest in all sports the trend of teams that try to look intimidating by adding black to their traditional colors. It seems much better to let your play show how tough you are. And Liquid – what can we say? It’s only a T-Shirt, but it looks great, the colors are fantastic, and it doesn’t look garish.

2. SlayerS. With SlayerS, it begins and ends with the jacket. Their T-Shirts are recognizable and their track pants inoffensive, but the jacket is what makes the SlayerS uniform. It was first widely recognized in that now-iconic image of BoxeR practicing long into the night at MLG Anaheim. As a result, threads were started (and have recently been raised from the archives) and the jacket was hunted down, available for only 218,000 won (around $200). The SlayerS jacket was really the first notable and desirable SC2 uniform element – and, you know, it's BoxeR. With time, it’s no less so. That single article puts them at #2.

1. Team SCV Life. I know this may be controversial, but I sincerely think that TSL has the best uniforms. It’s not just because they’re sponsored by [Name Redacted Until They Send Me Free Stuff]. It’s because of these hoodies:

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Would he look that confident in a less-cool shirt?


It might not be the standard elsewhere in the world, but the hoodie has completely dominated American casual style for a decade. Team Dignitas look great with them, people would kill for the Liquid one that Hot_Bid is always seen wearin, and old people can’t stand them. It’s a fantastic look that combines youth and coolness, and TSL wore them straight to the top of the first objective 2012 GSTL power rankings (and unfortunately straight out of the league, going 3-10 in games).

But in just one week, two of these teams are going to be heading to Las Vegas, Nevada, to face off in the first GSTL Final in North America. Whichever team wins the actual Starcraft matches, how are they going to look doing it? It’s Sin City, and they’re going to have some serious competition.

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Writers: WaxAngel, Fionn, JimLloyd.
Graphics: Pathy.
Editor: Heyoka.
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IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 20:34:22
March 30 2012 20:33 GMT
#2
Woo Vegas! =D We are beyond thrilled to be hosting the first GSTL finals outside of South Korea, and extremely excited to have these players competing in the IPL4 open bracket!
lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
March 30 2012 20:34 GMT
#3
srs fun coming to vegas ya!
especially with IPL4 and stephano and all
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
March 30 2012 20:34 GMT
#4
whooooaa, where is naniwa in key player list for StartaleQ?
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
March 30 2012 20:36 GMT
#5
That fashion ranking is terrible goddamnit! TSL hoodie looks cool on that pic, but doesn't look cool otherwise. Prime 9th? Their uniform looks cool as fuck. And you should add some pics to the ranking.
Callagan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States46 Posts
March 30 2012 20:37 GMT
#6
I'm excited to crown the first champion of 20120, too!

Anyway, I'm really excited to see the final 4 next weekend. MVP fighting!
Sierrahotel
Profile Joined January 2012
Korea (South)19 Posts
March 30 2012 20:37 GMT
#7
the GSTL is nearly ready to crown the first champion of 20120


Typo in the announcement? Or is the GSL just that ahead of the curve? xP
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
March 30 2012 20:37 GMT
#8
You clearly have no fashion sense. The prime hoodie is sick especially designed for the team by a professional fashion designer. And you rank a normal white hoodie with logo on it rank1? cool story bro.
ExistAxar
Profile Joined December 2010
India28 Posts
March 30 2012 20:38 GMT
#9
Isn't ST.Virus a Terran? I see a protoss symbol next to his name
"Glory Glory Man United"
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
March 30 2012 20:39 GMT
#10
lol, nice pic and write up.

If Startale and Prime win, were going to see 20 of the Code S ro32 players at IPL4!
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Sleed
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada181 Posts
March 30 2012 20:40 GMT
#11
Nice Write-up, really enjoyed it, especially the fashion ranking!! On a more serious side I really hope Startale players will perform to the best of their abilities, particularly Bomber, who's got such a talent and is one of my favorite player but is sooo inconsistent.

Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
March 30 2012 20:47 GMT
#12
ohhh Startale plz do it!!!!!!!!
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
March 30 2012 20:48 GMT
#13
Should be some great matches this weekend! MVP vs Prime rematch pls!
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
March 30 2012 20:50 GMT
#14
damn i just looked at that boxer pic again <3

go Prime and MVP
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
March 30 2012 20:52 GMT
#15
On March 31 2012 05:38 ExistAxar wrote:
Isn't ST.Virus a Terran? I see a protoss symbol next to his name


TLPD gets confused sometimes, thanks for pointing it out
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
March 30 2012 20:57 GMT
#16
Omg, prime should be number 1 fashion, how can you deny FashionKingPrime??
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Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
March 30 2012 20:58 GMT
#17
gonna be sick matches. but you clearly have no clue about fashion. :O
tsl's hoodie is pretty boring, prime on the other hand has just a very good design.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 21:03:26
March 30 2012 21:01 GMT
#18
Matches gonna be great and I'm really excited for Vegas!

Just to mention it: the match MVP vs. StarTaleQ will be happening in the Lotte World Ice Rink.
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And regarding the fashion ranking: exchange Place 9 and 1 and then I'm ok with it.
Childplay
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada263 Posts
March 30 2012 21:02 GMT
#19
but but but i like prime's jersey =/
mapthesoul
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Trinidad/Tobago429 Posts
March 30 2012 21:04 GMT
#20
IM should be #1 on fashion power rankings! Their googims stuff is awesome.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
March 30 2012 21:05 GMT
#21
You should have asked help to TLO for your fashion ranking, you would have avoided so many mistakes :/

Gogo startale/prime!
abalam
Profile Joined October 2011
Switzerland316 Posts
March 30 2012 21:11 GMT
#22
Nice writeup, but the fashion ranking is just plain wrong

Poll: Which Team has the most fashionable Uniform ?

Prime (42)
 
47%

Slayers (19)
 
21%

TSL (8)
 
9%

Startale (6)
 
7%

OGS (5)
 
6%

Incredible Miracle (3)
 
3%

New Star Hoseo (2)
 
2%

MVP (2)
 
2%

Zenex (2)
 
2%

FXOpen (1)
 
1%

90 total votes

Your vote: Which Team has the most fashionable Uniform ?

(Vote): New Star Hoseo
(Vote): Prime
(Vote): MVP
(Vote): FXOpen
(Vote): Startale
(Vote): Incredible Miracle
(Vote): Zenex
(Vote): OGS
(Vote): Slayers
(Vote): TSL


Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 30 2012 21:14 GMT
#23
Nope, the Slayers' Jacket is the best team apparel, hands down.
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 21:20:10
March 30 2012 21:17 GMT
#24
Prime, oGs and MvP have the best.

TSL USED to have the best fashion sense with the amazing red and white jacket, but they retired it for a decent, but somewhat standard, white hoodie.
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Isaac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States810 Posts
March 30 2012 21:20 GMT
#25
Prime has the best. There is no doubt.
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abalam
Profile Joined October 2011
Switzerland316 Posts
March 30 2012 21:20 GMT
#26
On March 31 2012 06:17 Fionn wrote:
Prime, oGs and MvP have the best.

TSL USED to have the best fashion sense with the amazing red and white jacket, but they retired it for a decent, but not somewhat standard, white hoodie.

Now here's a fashion statement that i can agree with
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
March 30 2012 21:20 GMT
#27
On March 31 2012 06:17 Fionn wrote:
TSL USED to have the best fashion sense with the amazing red and white jacket, but they retired it for a decent, but not somewhat standard, white hoodie.


Right, I remember this awesome uniform. I was so sad when I first saw the new hoodie.

How could you retire this for these hoodies?
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 30 2012 21:28 GMT
#28
It's sad that Fnatic isn't in there, because they definitly have the best uniform.

http://fnatic.com/filestorage/imageupload/Rp0Jh9zgpXyWtuc.jpg

Look like a dragon in them.
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 21:36:38
March 30 2012 21:35 GMT
#29
I stand by Jim's unconventional choice for Prime.
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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
March 30 2012 21:35 GMT
#30
Entertaining GSTL Fashion Ranking, nice read. And I agree: That new Prime hoodie with the fake leather hood does not look very appealing. The old turtle-neck-esque hoodie was much better. As for TSL and Polt: Polt looks damn good in whatever he is wearing.

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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
March 30 2012 21:42 GMT
#31
I really have to pick at the FXO vs Prime write-up....

I don't really understand why you'd rate FXOxd and FXOSirius over Whale and Tree respectively. It just doesn't make much sense to me.

Likewise, Tear is actually a monster of a player for being in Code B. His two wins in the EWM are something that can't be ignored.

For Prime, I would really expect to see one of the other Zergs aside from Bboongbboong. They really like to send out Bumblebee and AnnYeong in situations where a Zerg needs to snipe.
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Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
March 30 2012 21:45 GMT
#32
While I don't entirely agree with the choices, fashion ranking was a nice addition.

Other than that, I really look forward to the matches, this might be the most interesting GSTL yet.
randomsaint
Profile Joined December 2011
42 Posts
March 30 2012 21:47 GMT
#33
Fashion ranking desperately needed more pictures
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 30 2012 21:58 GMT
#34
These are my picks as well. I really hope both of these sets go into the ninth game. I love me some close GSTL games, that is what made oGsTL my favourite team in this league this season.
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 30 2012 21:59 GMT
#35
On March 31 2012 06:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I really have to pick at the FXO vs Prime write-up....

I don't really understand why you'd rate FXOxd and FXOSirius over Whale and Tree respectively. It just doesn't make much sense to me.

Likewise, Tear is actually a monster of a player for being in Code B. His two wins in the EWM are something that can't be ignored.

For Prime, I would really expect to see one of the other Zergs aside from Bboongbboong. They really like to send out Bumblebee and AnnYeong in situations where a Zerg needs to snipe.


For Prime to use another Zerg, that would mean not using one of Maru, Byun, or Creator. Maru is too hot right now not to be played. Byun, also, I believe is too good to not to be played. And Creator, he is their best chance to beat Leenock except for MKP. I would be surprised to see Bumblebee or Ann since Prime is starting with B4.

You're right on the Tree thing. I should have included him with XD and asd, but I would expect asd to be the TvT sniper if they wanted to take down MKP after he did so well against Supernova last week in the role. On Tear, I can't say much since I didn't watch the EWM and have only been able to catch a few games. The only time he was played this season was against MvP where he got rolled. It was probably nerves, but by only being used once this season, I dunno if they'll use him in the most important match where the winners go to the GSTL Finals in Las Vegas and get to participate in IPL4.

I would expect: B4, Maru, Byun, Creator, MKP vs. Gumiho, Lucky, Oz, a Terran (or Choya) and Leenock. Who knows, though? FXO has a lot of interesting players like Tear who could come in and kick ass.
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THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
March 30 2012 22:16 GMT
#36
Go Prime and Foxer! Hoping for a double victory at IPL4/GSTL
Regime
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia185 Posts
March 30 2012 22:28 GMT
#37
ZeNEX and IM have the best logos. but why cant we buy the team jerseys for TSL with all the sponsors on them the handsome nerd logo makes the whole thing!!
MountainGoat
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States507 Posts
March 30 2012 22:33 GMT
#38
Should have been way more pictures for the uniform section IMO. Couldn't really remember offhand what most of the uniforms looked like and they only had pictures of some of them. Great article besides that though.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
March 30 2012 22:37 GMT
#39
What!? O.O
Startale, MVP, and FXO's are much better than anyone of the tops teams (except SlayerS).
AnDa1120
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada472 Posts
March 30 2012 22:44 GMT
#40
Sick can't wait. Will NaDa be in the lineup for MVP? :o
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 30 2012 23:04 GMT
#41
On March 31 2012 07:44 Kilos wrote:
Sick can't wait. Will NaDa be in the lineup for MVP? :o


Nope. Nada cannot compete in the GSTL till next season.
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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
March 30 2012 23:07 GMT
#42
On March 31 2012 08:04 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 07:44 Kilos wrote:
Sick can't wait. Will NaDa be in the lineup for MVP? :o


Nope. Nada cannot compete in the GSTL till next season.

then tell me, why naniwa isnt in key players list for startaleQ?

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 23:30:09
March 30 2012 23:30 GMT
#43
On March 31 2012 05:34 dragonborn wrote:
whooooaa, where is naniwa in key player list for StartaleQ?


I decided I would take "a Quantic player will play" if I were given between 1:80 - 1:200 odds
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Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
March 30 2012 23:32 GMT
#44
TSL #1 on the fashion ranking?

You've gotta be kidding me...
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 30 2012 23:33 GMT
#45
On March 31 2012 08:30 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 05:34 dragonborn wrote:
whooooaa, where is naniwa in key player list for StartaleQ?


I decided I would take "a Quantic player will play" if I were given between 1:80 - 1:200 odds


Waxangel laying down the smack. What will you do if Nani does play (not that I find that likely).
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Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 23:37:22
March 30 2012 23:34 GMT
#46
I wish I had an IM cap.. the rest of their Googims clothing looks awesome too..

Here is the cap... roughly $30 usd?

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Remaker12
Profile Joined June 2011
United States105 Posts
March 30 2012 23:36 GMT
#47
On March 31 2012 06:01 Serinox wrote:
Matches gonna be great and I'm really excited for Vegas!

Just to mention it: the match MVP vs. StarTaleQ will be happening in the Lotte World Ice Rink.
Google picture:
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And regarding the fashion ranking: exchange Place 9 and 1 and then I'm ok with it.



I've been to Vegas but not Lotte World.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
March 30 2012 23:39 GMT
#48
On March 31 2012 08:30 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 05:34 dragonborn wrote:
whooooaa, where is naniwa in key player list for StartaleQ?


I decided I would take "a Quantic player will play" if I were given between 1:80 - 1:200 odds

we will see...

naniwa is a better choice than any startale player because he lived in MVP house for a while.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 30 2012 23:42 GMT
#49
On March 31 2012 08:39 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 08:30 Waxangel wrote:
On March 31 2012 05:34 dragonborn wrote:
whooooaa, where is naniwa in key player list for StartaleQ?


I decided I would take "a Quantic player will play" if I were given between 1:80 - 1:200 odds

we will see...

naniwa is a better choice than any startale player because he lived in MVP house for a while.


He said he never got that much practice there.
Honestly though, I think Squirtle, Bomber, Parting, July and Curious are all better than him
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
March 30 2012 23:48 GMT
#50
Slayers' jacket should be first...
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lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
March 31 2012 00:16 GMT
#51
There is only one final that is allowed. TSL v Prime. No because of skill--but because of vanity driven autograph opportunities. July, squirtle, and MKP *will* be signing trinkets of mine or death!

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Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
March 31 2012 00:24 GMT
#52
Go Marineking. Win it!
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illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
March 31 2012 00:49 GMT
#53
MVP has one of the best uniforms, can't believe it's near the bottom

Switch MVP with TSL

Prime's uniform is certainly better than zenex and FXO's uniform
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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
March 31 2012 01:12 GMT
#54
this guy must be a serious troll to say prime is 9th ranking for fashion
rip prime
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
March 31 2012 01:27 GMT
#55
On March 31 2012 08:39 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 08:30 Waxangel wrote:
On March 31 2012 05:34 dragonborn wrote:
whooooaa, where is naniwa in key player list for StartaleQ?


I decided I would take "a Quantic player will play" if I were given between 1:80 - 1:200 odds

we will see...

naniwa is a better choice than any startale player because he lived in MVP house for a while.


Uhhh, good joke.

Also is this match really being held at Lotte World? I think there is supposed to be some SC2 showmatch there on the 1st along with SNSD performing but I have yet to hear anything about who would be playing in said showmatch.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 31 2012 02:18 GMT
#56
A GSTL match in an amusement park? How will this work? haha
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 31 2012 02:19 GMT
#57
On March 31 2012 11:18 MooMooMugi wrote:
A GSTL match in an amusement park? How will this work? haha


The World Championship between MVP/MKP was at an amusement park.
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Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
March 31 2012 02:20 GMT
#58
The GSTL Fashion Ranking needs more pictures in order for me to correctly compare them all.
Spread your eggs until they crack!
Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
March 31 2012 02:28 GMT
#59
Lol I want more uniform pictures!
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
March 31 2012 02:52 GMT
#60
I'm in Seoul right now and want to see the game tomorrow...

Could someone kindly point me in the direction of the information stating that the games won't take place at the Mok-dong studio?

ty ty Nice write-up. So excited! MVP/Prime gogo!
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Bkennedy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
March 31 2012 02:53 GMT
#61
Got my GOMTV subscription today.

Is tastosis gonna cast this btw?
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
March 31 2012 02:59 GMT
#62
Lmao Alphabet terrans! Great writeup and the GSTL fashion ranking rocks. Go MKP!
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StelleWind
Profile Joined December 2011
China76 Posts
March 31 2012 03:07 GMT
#63
I don't think parting's pvp is weak....the protoss players that can beat parting in MLG in a bo3, oz and huk, both have incredible records of pvp. and parting beat every other protoss in the games before
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Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
March 31 2012 04:27 GMT
#64
really good read! enjoyed it
CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
March 31 2012 04:31 GMT
#65
If you're gonna do a fashion ranking, at least include pictures :S
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Mechwarrior
Profile Joined April 2011
United States76 Posts
March 31 2012 04:33 GMT
#66
I'm really hoping MVP wins. MVP Fighting!
TrickyGilligan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States641 Posts
March 31 2012 05:14 GMT
#67
Uniform discussion needs way more pictures. I found it all amusing, but I honestly don't pay nearly enough attention to have any idea what the uniforms look like, with the exception of the Slayers jacket. Everyone else has their team name and sponsors on there, and even though I watch the GSL that's all I can really say =/
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ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
March 31 2012 05:15 GMT
#68
lol time to crash thehandsomenerd again? :D
DivinitySC2
Profile Joined July 2011
United States244 Posts
March 31 2012 06:51 GMT
#69
Great write-up but that fashion ranking is infuriating. I know its your opinion but Prime's uniform looks amazing, and according to the poll that is what the majority of us think. Perhaps you can add the poll to the op?
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GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
March 31 2012 07:05 GMT
#70
Prime uniform is absolutely AMAZING in mu opinion and i would rank it as number 1 for sure. But to each their own i guess.... Still, 9th? Come on.
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Profile Joined July 2011
United States109 Posts
March 31 2012 08:25 GMT
#71
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO =[
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pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
March 31 2012 08:28 GMT
#72
Thought startale threw it after sending parting first

Happy, now go prime
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
March 31 2012 08:59 GMT
#73
HOLY SHIT
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Bijan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 10:14:55
March 31 2012 10:14 GMT
#74
I still like the more formal jacket uniforms the best. They give off a sense of professionalism and class.
eohs
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States677 Posts
March 31 2012 13:16 GMT
#75
I live in Las Vegas Caanttttttt waiiiiiit for this weekend :D
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Tiegrr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States607 Posts
March 31 2012 14:57 GMT
#76
Prime jerseys. Why are they #9? :<
FXOBoSs
Profile Joined August 2011
337 Posts
March 31 2012 15:49 GMT
#77
dear fionn.. Thanks once again for not cursing my team... Incoming gumiho all-kill...

<3 FXOBoSs
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Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 16:21:18
March 31 2012 16:21 GMT
#78
On April 01 2012 00:49 FXOBoSs wrote:
dear fionn.. Thanks once again for not cursing my team... Incoming gumiho all-kill...

<3 FXOBoSs


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ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
March 31 2012 17:38 GMT
#79
Slayers or prime should have won the fasion rank. That blue jacket is actually the coolest thing I've ever seen and I would totally get one if all my friends wouldn't recognize it and make fun of me for buying "boxers jacket", and what about that thing with the huge collar that MKP is always wearing, shouldn't that help them just like DRG's white jacket?
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Zirob13
Profile Joined November 2011
Costa Rica44 Posts
March 31 2012 19:03 GMT
#80
I felt so bad when I saw Genius crying after getting pwned, even dancing zerlings just made it worst. Thats BM to me.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
March 31 2012 19:06 GMT
#81
On April 01 2012 04:03 Zirob13 wrote:
I felt so bad when I saw Genius crying after getting pwned, even dancing zerlings just made it worst. Thats BM to me.


Genius is one of the players that does that kind of stuff everytime he wins, don't think he took it offensively
Tamz
Profile Joined October 2011
United States28 Posts
March 31 2012 19:44 GMT
#82
On April 01 2012 04:06 pPingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 04:03 Zirob13 wrote:
I felt so bad when I saw Genius crying after getting pwned, even dancing zerlings just made it worst. Thats BM to me.


Genius is one of the players that does that kind of stuff everytime he wins, don't think he took it offensively


Pretty sure Genius and DRG are pretty good friends to.
Frail
Profile Joined October 2010
Iceland336 Posts
March 31 2012 22:01 GMT
#83
ST vs Prime.

callin' it!
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TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
March 31 2012 22:29 GMT
#84
MVP Hwaiting!
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
March 31 2012 23:16 GMT
#85
I love it when they hold the matches outside of the studio. I would have liked to attend this one in particular, looked like a nice place.
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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
April 01 2012 01:40 GMT
#86
I wanna see Maru play!
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 02:33:59
April 01 2012 02:33 GMT
#87
On April 01 2012 04:44 Tamz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 04:06 pPingu wrote:
On April 01 2012 04:03 Zirob13 wrote:
I felt so bad when I saw Genius crying after getting pwned, even dancing zerlings just made it worst. Thats BM to me.


Genius is one of the players that does that kind of stuff everytime he wins, don't think he took it offensively


Pretty sure Genius and DRG are pretty good friends to.

Pretty sure Genius does it to players-who-aren't-his-teammates too.

It's a goddamn celebration for sending his team to Las Vegas. Let the guy have his turn in the spotlight.
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
April 01 2012 08:00 GMT
#88
It doesn't make sense - if FXO intended to play Leenock all along, then why did Choya play instead of Oz?
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
April 01 2012 08:35 GMT
#89
On April 01 2012 17:00 KingofGods wrote:
It doesn't make sense - if FXO intended to play Leenock all along, then why did Choya play instead of Oz?


Probably choya prepared a sniper build or had better results in practice or maybe oz wasn't confident today

And it's not like he never had results in leagues, he often beats really good players
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
April 01 2012 09:04 GMT
#90
On April 01 2012 17:35 pPingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 17:00 KingofGods wrote:
It doesn't make sense - if FXO intended to play Leenock all along, then why did Choya play instead of Oz?


Probably choya prepared a sniper build or had better results in practice or maybe oz wasn't confident today

And it's not like he never had results in leagues, he often beats really good players


FXO_BoSs said that playing Choya in that game was a snap decision and that he had very good in house results against terran. BoSs also said that he supported the choice to put Choya in and felt that it was the right one for the team.
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Profile Joined November 2010
Canada115 Posts
April 03 2012 15:40 GMT
#91
Can´t wait! IPL4 will be EPIC
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