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JackDT
Profile Joined January 2012
724 Posts
March 23 2012 02:41 GMT
#161
On March 23 2012 11:28 Roachu wrote:
I fail to see how Stephano can end up sub-top 5.


Open Bracket is rough. No matter how could you are, you can screw up a few games. And there are great players in the Open Bracket already, including Polt.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
March 23 2012 02:43 GMT
#162
On March 23 2012 11:28 Roachu wrote:
I fail to see how Stephano can end up sub-top 5.

Well he's not top 5 in the world so logically if some of the players above him attend he's not gonna be top 5.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
how
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
March 23 2012 02:43 GMT
#163
On March 23 2012 08:50 Severian wrote:
This is appreciated, but I'm not sure taking the "who is better than who?" approach is the best idea. A true list of that nature is missing a lot of Koreans. "Who are impressing us the most right now?" might be a better criterion, as then you could perhaps justify the exclusion of players like MMA, MVP, NesTea, Leenock, etc. I don't think anyone sane thinks that those players don't belong on a list of the top 40 players in the world.

edit: also, no Genius?

double edit: hahah this only includes people who are at MLG, I'm a stupid moron


I looked at the list twice and was confused by no genius (among others) as well, then noticed that it only includes people from MLG, so you are not the only one

All in all though, outside of the top 10, it gets really hard to say who is better, but I think the list isn't to bad.
http://twitter.com/howsc
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 02:44:24
March 23 2012 02:44 GMT
#164
This list is very inaccurate and leaves out many top players who should replace most of the foreigners in the list such as Leenock, MVP etc.
EDIT: just noticed its for MLG nvm
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
March 23 2012 02:46 GMT
#165
Really really good ranking.

I agree that only Demuslim is missplaced here. Besides beating Nestea, he hasnt done much. Should place right behind the Grubby line.
Ret could be 2-3 places down as well.
ChrysaliS_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States261 Posts
March 23 2012 02:46 GMT
#166
Artist, Rain, and Select are all ranked far too low. Korean Terrans >>> Grubby...
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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 02:48:36
March 23 2012 02:47 GMT
#167
vileIllusion only made it into the list because hes 16 and because he got invited to red bull lan, don't think his tournament results or past mlg results justify him making it into the top 40 over other people, such as minigun.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Leny_1
Profile Joined March 2010
Poland45 Posts
March 23 2012 02:48 GMT
#168
On March 23 2012 11:43 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 11:28 Roachu wrote:
I fail to see how Stephano can end up sub-top 5.

Well he's not top 5 in the world so logically if some of the players above him attend he's not gonna be top 5.



How can you apply logic to a players like stephano.... he doesnt even watch the replays fors gods sake.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
March 23 2012 02:50 GMT
#169
On March 23 2012 11:48 Leny_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 11:43 Femari wrote:
On March 23 2012 11:28 Roachu wrote:
I fail to see how Stephano can end up sub-top 5.

Well he's not top 5 in the world so logically if some of the players above him attend he's not gonna be top 5.



How can you apply logic to a players like stephano.... he doesnt even watch the replays fors gods sake.

Not watching replays =/= auto top 5

He's really good, a top player in the world. But there's a lot of talent in SC2. While Stephano is the top foreigner without question, I don't know if he's top 10 in the world. But he's up there. Definitely.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12627 Posts
March 23 2012 02:51 GMT
#170
can't say I Agree with all of them, especially where naniwa is higher than ganzi.
but oh well, at least DRG is at top
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 23 2012 02:52 GMT
#171
God, if Ret can carry his focus from Red Bull into MLG, he would be unstoppable O.O
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
March 23 2012 02:56 GMT
#172
I really disagree with a lot of those rankings but it was a fun read!

no way ret should be higher than naniwa (and thats not a knock to ret at all)
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 23 2012 02:58 GMT
#173
On March 23 2012 11:47 goswser wrote:
vileIllusion only made it into the list because hes 16 and because he got invited to red bull lan, don't think his tournament results or past mlg results justify him making it into the top 40 over other people, such as minigun.

What has minigun done to be above illusion? Illusion has shown some great games at previous mlgs and in team leagues.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
March 23 2012 03:03 GMT
#174
good writeup, some grammatical errors that i see throughout the post, but its okay! (only criticizing because im an aspiring journalist and id actually enjoy doing this!) :D
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
human_ko
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 03:06:19
March 23 2012 03:04 GMT
#175
On March 23 2012 08:47 Olinim wrote:
Nice ranking, I agree with most of it. Can't wait for tomorrow :D


what will happen tomorrow? i see nothing on tl

edit: found an mlg thread, mlg tomorrow! but i wont be able to watch tt
WOrd, yo.
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
March 23 2012 03:06 GMT
#176
i am watching this event solely to see how well idra, stephano and DRG do.

Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Leny_1
Profile Joined March 2010
Poland45 Posts
March 23 2012 03:08 GMT
#177
On March 23 2012 11:50 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 11:48 Leny_1 wrote:
On March 23 2012 11:43 Femari wrote:
On March 23 2012 11:28 Roachu wrote:
I fail to see how Stephano can end up sub-top 5.

Well he's not top 5 in the world so logically if some of the players above him attend he's not gonna be top 5.



How can you apply logic to a players like stephano.... he doesnt even watch the replays fors gods sake.

Not watching replays =/= auto top 5

He's really good, a top player in the world. But there's a lot of talent in SC2. While Stephano is the top foreigner without question, I don't know if he's top 10 in the world. But he's up there. Definitely.


Yea but take into account that players like DRG, MMMA etc. are not only talented but they train much more than any other foreign player, thats why i emphasize stephano... he is kinda wonderkid of the foreign scene.

Leny_1
Profile Joined March 2010
Poland45 Posts
March 23 2012 03:14 GMT
#178
On March 23 2012 11:58 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 11:47 goswser wrote:
vileIllusion only made it into the list because hes 16 and because he got invited to red bull lan, don't think his tournament results or past mlg results justify him making it into the top 40 over other people, such as minigun.

What has minigun done to be above illusion? Illusion has shown some great games at previous mlgs and in team leagues.


I agree with you. Minigun sure is talented but he doesnt deserve the praise he is recieving right now. Ilusion has shown the results and a lot o people still blindly follow players like idra instead of supporting rising NA talents like him.
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
March 23 2012 03:20 GMT
#179
I'm pulling for a Illusion breakthrough into the money. I would love to see something like that happen.

Glad to see him included in the top 40.
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
nakedsurfer
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada500 Posts
March 23 2012 03:20 GMT
#180
On March 23 2012 09:31 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 09:13 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On March 23 2012 09:11 Seeker wrote:
Where the heck is SlayerS_MMA?


C'mon Seeker, you even read the post? It was for the people who are actually attending the LAN. MMA isn't. Just like Leenock Nestea MVP Gumiho etc isn't on it as well :/

Ohhhhhhhhh well that makes much much much more sense thank you.

BTW, where EXACTLY does it say that?


The title...Lol

Nice read. I agree with it
Root4Root
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