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GSL: Who Should be in Code S? - Page 8

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SolarJto
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States260 Posts
February 27 2012 16:13 GMT
#141
Polt is really good. I think he deserves Code S
-University of New Mexico CSL Coordinator-
The_Masked_Shrimp
Profile Joined February 2012
425 Posts
February 27 2012 16:13 GMT
#142
On February 27 2012 20:18 RPR_Tempest wrote:
What about PuMa?

Won NASL 1 and 2, won an IEM and came 2nd at DreamHack..



Oh WOW, how can you actually even consider NASL 2?
For NASL 1 it's way too far in the past to be considered for a seed at the moment and the other results are not overwhelming compared to other possible players.


I don't think Stephano will go to GSL, or if he does it would be for a single season if he still plans to focus on studies starting in september of this year. Plus I don't think he can overcome the best terrans in code S ( he seems godlike against everything but korean terrans). I think Polt is like in the bottom half of the top 10 terrans, and still he managed to beat Stephano multiple times even though he was BEHIND in the games at multiple times.
So unless he receives a good salary it would be a way too risky move for Stephano to go to GSL compared to "foreigner" tournaments.
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 16:18:50
February 27 2012 16:17 GMT
#143
On February 28 2012 01:03 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 00:59 Vardant wrote:
On February 28 2012 00:43 Proseat wrote:
I think these direct Code S seeds should altogether be abolished. I do not mind Code A seeds, though.

Why? The current system is perfect. If you somehow can't keep with the Code S/A level players, you're gone in one season.

I agree that these should be Code A spots. Code S should be elite of the elite. Direct Wild Card just introduces a bit of "foreign folklore" and - unfortunately - easy wins for other players which make the whole Code S tournament uneven (I guess everybody would be happy to play against IdrA in the most recent Code S).


But in IdrA's case, it wasn't that he as a poor (for lack of a better word) foreign candidate for Code S, it's that he's just playing terribly at the moment. If you had someone on the level of NaNiwa, HuK, or Stephano, they would have most likely have made it through to at least the round of 16.

I mean, IdrA's performance this weekend was one of his low points, only managing to take one game off of Oz. Using him as a benchmark of how foreigners would do in Korea at the moment isn't exactly an accurate representation to the rest of the scene.

On February 28 2012 01:13 SolarXPn wrote:
Polt is really good. I think he deserves Code S


Completely agree with this. Watching Polt at Assembly made me a huge fan of the guy. He showcased his level of play so well with his decision making and control,
@DreamingBird
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 27 2012 16:17 GMT
#144
Forgot about Dimaga? Losing IEM Kiev to the best TvZ player and getting 2nd is definitely an achievement, and getting top 8 at Homestory Cup and losing to another stellar PvZ player in JYP is no shame either.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
February 27 2012 16:18 GMT
#145
I so want to see Stephano in the GSL.
Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
February 27 2012 16:19 GMT
#146
On February 28 2012 01:01 agfoxGnom wrote:
I see a lot of posts about Stephano joining GSL. Well, everyone knows that Stephano playing SC2 for money not for fame and since he has zero chances to get into GSL top2 I think he will not accept invite for code S even if he will get it.

He can just leave the minute he loses. They wouldn't be happy about it, but if he's going to stop playing, then it really shouldn't bother him.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 16:32:51
February 27 2012 16:21 GMT
#147
As much as I love Stephano and I think he's one of the most deserving foreigners to try their luck in Code S - I actually think he's right for refusing it. He's not the guy to half-ass stuff. He does it if he does it, otherwise he doesn't do it. With Stephano there's no try.

But Code S takes serious time investment, and Stephano is still planning on leaving the scene relatively soon. So it's not worth it for him. If he goes, he would have to spend some months in Korea flowing between Code S and Code A, before he's even capable of reaping any serious rewards. This is better suited for Huk and Naniwa who are topmost driven by the honor they get, and only second-most driven by the rewards they get. Stephano is simply not in the same position with his life and attitude towards the scene. It's unfortunate, because one can bet he has what it takes to make it, but it just won't happen in this life.

Anyway, we are all theorizing GOM's choice here, but I'm still not entirely sure if they even allow Koreans for these 2 seeds or not; or are at least foreigners given some priority - if say some foreigner and Korean perform at about the same level. I guess we'll see with the next couple of season's picks how it works exactly. I'd love Mr. Chae to clarify a little bit though.

If it's foreigners-only, I'd definitely add Dimaga to the list of recommended invites based on recent international performances, as well as Ret.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Beedon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States12 Posts
February 27 2012 16:25 GMT
#148
Cool write up.

As much as I dislike stephano at times, I think he would be great in GSL. There would be the chance that he could stick around for a few rounds and there is that omnipresent concern of whether or not he's going to do or say something offensive...which is entertaining.

HuK and Polt would be the two that I would expect to get the bump, though.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
February 27 2012 16:27 GMT
#149
naniwa and polt. i would say stephano instead of nani but he doesnt want to be in korea.
Santiago4ever
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden299 Posts
February 27 2012 16:30 GMT
#150
Haven't paid for GSL since they revoked Naniwa's code S slot (it was his now shush). If they seed him back there I'll start paying and watching again.
Ernest Hemingway once wrote: The world is a fine place and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 16:37:43
February 27 2012 16:33 GMT
#151
I want to see Stephano. Its about damn time he headed to Korea to prove how good he really is. If I had to pick two though, I'd say Polt and Stephano.



And they BS'ed Naniwa out of his seed, so he should get back in there too.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
February 27 2012 16:35 GMT
#152
On February 27 2012 19:50 Leeoku wrote:
i would love to see stephano in gsl... considering also he is limiting his sc2 career for like another year?


he's been affirming clearly (and for a long time now) that he's retiring next year...
however during one of his many interviews at assembly, he seemed less affirmative about it.
he said he might reconsider it.

just throwing you a bone out there :D
lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
February 27 2012 16:37 GMT
#153
On February 28 2012 01:33 Havik_ wrote:
I want to see Stephano. Its about damn time he headed to Korea to prove how good he really is. If I had to pick two though, I'd say Polt and Stephano.


note...he's been to korea.
he fought in the blizz cup and went 2-2, didn't make it bc of tie breaker.
Legace
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden342 Posts
February 27 2012 16:37 GMT
#154
I think Polt is a given, after that it's a dead race between Huk, Naniwa and Stephano with Stephano probably being their choice if he accepts which I think he won't.

Not too sure if they'll seed Huk right back in to code S right after he went out.
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
February 27 2012 16:38 GMT
#155
I don't think NaNiwa should get a Code S seed, and it's not to do with his performance at MLG. Being a pretty big NaNi fan and all it would hurt me too much to see him go into Code S and promptly be cheesed or all-ined a few times sending him spiralling to Code A. Code S is just too preparation heavy where Koreans would prepare the sickest all-ins against his FFE / Nexus-First builds.
Had the GSL been more about base play through endurance heavy matches without much preparation time I would say "yeah let him go" but the sad truth is that he'll probably get torn apart by cheese
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lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
February 27 2012 16:38 GMT
#156
On February 28 2012 01:37 Legace wrote:
I think Polt is a given, after that it's a dead race between Huk, Naniwa and Stephano with Stephano probably being their choice if he accepts which I think he won't.

Not too sure if they'll seed Huk right back in to code S right after he went out.


they did for MVP and MC, which both came back and whooped asses when they were seeded back
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
February 27 2012 16:41 GMT
#157
On February 27 2012 19:38 Inertia_EU wrote:
"(Z)Stephano: It's his the second he asks for it, so it's all contingent on his will to go to Korea." One can only hope he decides to, he's a fantastic player and personality. But I reckon it'll be HuK and a korean.

This line is funny but so true. And personally I must admit I would like to see him in GSL more then any other foreigner. Him, Huk and Naniwa are ATM best foreigners.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 16:52:06
February 27 2012 16:43 GMT
#158
I'd sort of rather Naniwa was given a Code A spot so he could fight his way up to Code S. It's pretty clear that it's within his abilities. But put him straight in Code S and he could just get cheesed out which would fuel the fires of the Naniwa Isn't Even Good Brigade.

On February 28 2012 01:33 Havik_ wrote:
And they BS'ed Naniwa out of his seed, so he should get back in there too.


Also this. Even MLG were like 'wut' when Gom said that oh, actually the exchange program doesn't work like that, we can just give Code S seeds to whoever we want and Naniwa hasn't earned one through our system, this was all made quite clear a little while ago, the plans were on display in Gom headquarters, in the display department/cellar, you'll need a torch because the lights are out, and so are the stairs actually, but the plans are displayed there, in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.
+ Show Spoiler +
Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy reference

Plus NaNiwa and Nestea had their rematch, it's all cool now, the punishment was too severe in the first place imo...I think he deserves it.
dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
February 27 2012 16:45 GMT
#159
Its gotta be Naniwa. I can see it no other way. He's too good. WHile huk, good, he did not go through the gauntlet of players and kick some serious butt. I still feel like Naniwa deserves his Code s shine.
When life gives you Stalkers, Get blink.
DeaDoXFighting
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada115 Posts
February 27 2012 16:49 GMT
#160
Liquid hero fighting! He deserves it gogo hero!!
Go Liquid Hero !!!!!
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