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Reasons to Win - MLG Winter Arena

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Reasons to Win - MLG Winter Arena

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February 24th, 2012 20:24 GMT

Reasons to Win

By: Lovedrop



MLG’s 2012 inaugural tournament could not be more diverse. It's not just the wide variety of nationalities, play styles, and personalities that are gathered - there are unique motivations behind these players as well. Winning means something different for each of these players in New York, and we'll explore a few of the more interesting stories.


Redemption

There's a lot to gain with a victory: prize money, personal glory, international fame, etc. But to some players, this tournament isn't about what they can gain, but how they can make amends. Are we talking about Mvp, whose form has slipped by his abnormally high standards? Or MC, who has switched teams and finds himself at a strange place in his career? No, for those two, time is on their side. For (Z)EG.IdrA, however, time and patience are starting to run short.

It’s been months since he went to Korea, seeking to adapt, evolve, and ultimately transcend the limitations of his previous play. Two disastrous GSL appearances along with a string of disappointing show matches have begun to wear the at patience of the masses. While IdrA has had success in ASUS ROG tournaments, MLG was always the better choice for EG’s temperamental Zerg. There wait the Koreans who are the bane of his existence (and one who enjoys mocking him considerably), and the other foreigners who have spent time in Korea but have something to show for it. What excuse or plea can justify another horrible showing now? We will see if that stoic expression can represent the confidence of a winner, or become yet again, the mask of failure.

Honorable Mention: Nestea


Other Reasons to Win

Vengeance: It must have hurt NaNiwa so badly to lose MLG Providence, a finals he had in the bag. It's a loss he will want to avenge.

Money: How many Koreans are in this tournament, who have no salary and no prize winnings in their entire career? $10,000 goes a long way in Korea.

Validation: TheStC and GanZi are excellent players who still don't get quite the credit they deserve. The only way they can resolve this situation is to stand on the podium.
Momentum

The form of progamers has always been widely discussed, perhaps because we have a strange need to find our modern “bonjwa”. The landscape has fallen into chaos in the past few months, but there are always a few whose hot streaks you cannot ignore. For many players, the Winter Arena will be a momentous achievement in itself, but for (Z)coL.MvPDongRaeGu, it will just be another checkmark on his already fantastic 2012.

Wins in smaller tournaments and top 4 finishes all around the end of 2011 already solidified DRG’s status as an elite player, but it was was a heartrendingly narrow loss at the Blizzard Cup finals that showed us he was on yet another level. DongRaeGu has only improved since that disappointment, going on a rampage with a 31-9 record on the year. He's awaiting his first GSL finals, and there's not much doubt that Nestea has finally been deposed. If he can continue to ride the momentum, it's not just MLG Winter Arena that will be his for the taking. 2011 had Mvp and Nestea -- 2012 needs its first ruler.

Honorable Mentions: Sheth, viOLeT


Opportunity

There are players who are regulars on the tournament circuit, and then there are those who must make the best of their rare moments in the spotlight. The North American server might be looked down upon by some, but for our top NA players, it makes little difference which server they qualified from. Due to another high profile event going on in the same weekend, the top teams have split their rosters for maximum efficiency, opening up some room which there might not have been otherwise. Now, a select few have a chance of a lifetime to compete on the highest stage, and prove their worth to an audience that might not even know their names. Surely, out of all these players, (P)Axslav must have the most to gain.

Two teams, and self-employment in the span of a month pretty much sums up Axslav’s misfortunes in 2012. Without financial assistance, it would be difficult for the 26 year old Nick Ranish to pursue Starcraft full-time. Though his skill and cult popularity should get him an offer before too long, surely those offers would be improved with a strong performance at MLG Winter Arena. Furthermore, he has no better way to prove that his unremarkable stint on Evil Geniuses was the fault of a star obsessed team, not his own. Beyond his own personal gain, Axslav also represents something more for the viewers at home. He's hugely approachable on his stream, and his handspeed sometimes looks like it's straight out of diamond. In other words: he's one of us, the everyman become pro-gamer. If he should succeed, it will be a success not just for himself, but for all those who carry the dream.

Honorable Mentions: dde, drewbie.

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juked
Profile Joined May 2010
United States691 Posts
February 24 2012 20:29 GMT
#2
Idra go big or go home crying
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
February 24 2012 20:33 GMT
#3
There's so many people I want to see do well here. Specifically Drewbie, Axslav, Grubby, and most of all Sjow. This will be the tournament for the non super-stars to shine!
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 20:34:42
February 24 2012 20:34 GMT
#4
Good write up. I am excited to see the results of the Winter League (both games and the tournament going PPV) should be an interesting experience.
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
February 24 2012 20:35 GMT
#5
so excited
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
jabberwockzerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States294 Posts
February 24 2012 20:35 GMT
#6
Playing in MLG this close to GSL finals is dangerous for DRG, as demonstrated by Leenock with Providence/November
I put the money in the jacket, and the jacket on the kangaroo, and now he's hopping away!
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
February 24 2012 20:36 GMT
#7
Idra FTW!
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
Night Eyes
Profile Joined January 2011
433 Posts
February 24 2012 20:36 GMT
#8
It would b great if Sheth all-kill vs EG will carry on to an MLG all-kill ^^
excellent!
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
February 24 2012 20:36 GMT
#9
lol, the mask of failure. I laughed at that.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
February 24 2012 20:36 GMT
#10
On February 25 2012 05:35 jackphelps wrote:
Playing in MLG this close to GSL finals is dangerous for DRG, as demonstrated by Leenock with Providence/November


Yeah but that can't be the sole reason Leenock lost gsl November. It could be a factor, but there's more that goes into it than just that.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
.MadHaT
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada76 Posts
February 24 2012 20:40 GMT
#11
Axslav seems like such a great guy, and his description as the 'everyman's' progamer really strikes a chord. I wish him all the best of luck, he deserves to get a great finish.
"That's just the man trying to get you to buy Bananas" - Artosis
MonsterBeast
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada193 Posts
February 24 2012 20:43 GMT
#12
DongRaeGu is winning this kids
It is what it is.
jabberwockzerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States294 Posts
February 24 2012 20:50 GMT
#13
On February 25 2012 05:36 TBone- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 05:35 jackphelps wrote:
Playing in MLG this close to GSL finals is dangerous for DRG, as demonstrated by Leenock with Providence/November


Yeah but that can't be the sole reason Leenock lost gsl November. It could be a factor, but there's more that goes into it than just that.


You speak the truth.
I put the money in the jacket, and the jacket on the kangaroo, and now he's hopping away!
Josh111
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States239 Posts
February 24 2012 21:01 GMT
#14
Think i might pay the 20 bucks after reading this.. lol =P
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
February 24 2012 21:05 GMT
#15
Go Liquid! and Axslav!
RIP MBC Game Hero
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
February 24 2012 21:05 GMT
#16
If sheth wins. Imma pulled a forrest gump.
Ollix
Profile Joined October 2011
United States18 Posts
February 24 2012 21:08 GMT
#17
I think the IdrA stuff is being blown out of proportion. I think he summed it up well in the interview he just did. Practice needs time to set in, a lot of his team-league failures were done weeks ago, and he's in his top form when he's onstage.

Otherwise, I do hope Axslav does well. He's way late on some good karma
I bled blue until 5/9/2012
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
February 24 2012 21:12 GMT
#18
Go MC! I don't think there's any PvP to bomb out on in this tournament, and if he goes down he should go down fighting!
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
February 24 2012 21:22 GMT
#19
LOL way to put no pressure on the players.
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
supsun
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom343 Posts
February 24 2012 21:25 GMT
#20
I hope this MLG will be a Korean only top 12. IdrA in 13th and the rest is w/e
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