• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:33
CET 22:33
KST 06:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy5ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises0Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool42Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Weekly Cups (May 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block
Tourneys
World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
Soulkey's decision to leave C9 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ JaeDong's form before ASL [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [ASL21] Ro24 Group A [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
U4GM Tips Counter Enemy Gadgets Fast in Black Ops rsvsr How to Keep Reward Chains Rolling in Monopol u4gm What to Do First in MLB The Show 26 Spring
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1720 users

Power Rank - February '12 - Page 9

Forum Index > News
203 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 Next All
Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
February 13 2012 23:59 GMT
#161
#5 for Stork is too much. He should be 6-8, and Bisu 7-9. JD should be 6-8 as well.
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
February 14 2012 00:02 GMT
#162
Jaedong. Not. On. Power. Rank. 092ha09wjhf90wh4y-9HT3

thee WORLD IS OVERrrrrrRR+~!!!!

p.s. tt__tt
C r u m b l i n g
firebound12
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada274 Posts
February 14 2012 00:03 GMT
#163
RIP Jaedong's BW. Was my only reason to watch BW
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
February 14 2012 00:09 GMT
#164
NO JAEDONG? ignore powerrank.

+ Show Spoiler +
just kidding! But seriously #1 next time pls.
133 221 333 123 111
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
February 14 2012 00:28 GMT
#165
On February 14 2012 08:37 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 08:27 Soap wrote:
On February 14 2012 00:17 ffreakk wrote:
On February 13 2012 22:56 Soap wrote:
(Z)Jaedong
This has been the first time since July of 2007 that Jaedong hasn't been on the Power Rank. And, all favoritism aside, I really wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, one jaw-dropping game does not an appearance on the Power Rank make.


My responses:

Meh
Blah
Canata
Zzz
Whatever
Holy whoa Bisu this is what happens when you use high templar


Seriously?


It's pretty difficult to argue that Jaedong's record has been better than Bisu's. Jaedong have 1 good game, and the others were mostly losses. Bisu is pretty much the same, but his remaining games are mostly wins. Not the best games, even I (rabid fan) will agree, but generally Bisu's been performing better over the past year or so. On average :p

Jaedong has the most intense moment in all of SC:BW this year though. I had lots of fun watching the Consipated game :3


You have TLPD available right there on the sidebar, why spread misinformation? JD is 8-5, Bisu is 9-5 and "over the past year" he didn't make a single starleague.

People hate on JD because he plays greedy and that looks like shit when loses, just like Flash was called stupid everytime he was caught 14cc'ing, even though that's part of why he wins so much. Then EffOrt turtles 20min, banging his head against a siege wall while Flash triple expands, and the same people call it "a good game".

flamewheel doesn't look at "power" or actual games when he writes the power rank, he looks at results. "JD 5pooled and got drone blocked for 10 minutes, he's so bad." He still beat the shit out of flying and made ssak almost cry (on coach's orders, btw). That's a fucking tyrant. Then he topped it off by molesting Modesty.

He has plenty of power at the moment, way more than almost everybody on that list. But whatever, flamewheel is just a hater.

We are all disapointed but don't be ridicules: Flameweel a hater? He is a big Jaedong fan...

But I have to agree often people rather see Jaedong's wins as almost losses than his losses as almost wins. They count his game against Ssak as a loss and his game against flying as a loss... Shouldn't we count his (bo) loss against Effort as a win then?
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
February 14 2012 00:28 GMT
#166
On February 14 2012 08:20 Hinanawi wrote:
Man, it's been a long road as a Flash fan, and such a fulfilling one. Anyone want to blog things nobody will read and share here? I'll start.

I started following professional BW with the start of Bacchus OSL and GOM Star Invitational, just before Flash had won any medals (insert hipster picture here saying I followed Flash before he was cool), and what really grabbed me was the storyline about how he was a young prodigy. That combined with him being Terran (my favorite race), and I was cheering for him in those two tournaments and thought it was awesome when he won them both, basically sealing my entrance into BW fandom.

Then 2009 happened, and it was dark times to be a Flash fan compared to a JD/Bisu fan. Arguments raged over whether it was Jaedong or Bisu who was the 5th bonjwa, with many hurt-feelings and locked threads to be had, while Flash carried KT on his back and kept dropping out of individual leagues, having trouble dealing with rapidly-expanding Protoss while he turtled too hard, being too stingy with turrets against Zerg and getting torn apart by mutalisks, it was rough to watch.

Then, after the darkness, something changed. Flash decided to start being more aggressive in TvP and not let them superexpand anymore, often snapping their necks in the first 10 minutes of the game. He started playing TvZ with razor's-edge early bio 3rd-denials other Ts couldn't emulate because his bio control is so godly. Ps and Zs began shitting their pants wondering what Flash was going to do to them earlygame while still having a strong economy, and he used that fear to play some wicked mindgames. The final piece snapped together when Flash got his hand fixed, and now he's the true, complete ultimate weapon, acknowledged by all as the 5th bonjwa, God, the player to bring Starcraft: Brood War to its highest level of play ever.

As for the rest of TBLS, I've always liked Stork because I felt bad for him losing twice to Flash like that, plus he's just such a likable guy, and his play is fun. The reason I'm an SKT anti-fan is probably because of my butthurt over what Bisu and Fantasy did to my boy Flash back in the days (Bisu knocking him out of some things, Fantasy threatening his #1 Terran spot for a bit). Jaedong, even though he knocked Flash around a lot and it was painful to watch, somehow I've never been a Jaedong anti-fan, and I hope he gets back into form. Flash needs a good rival like that.


Nice. Post.
KTY
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
February 14 2012 00:56 GMT
#167
Water is wet, sky is blue, Flash is #1 on PR.
Remember Violet.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
February 14 2012 01:01 GMT
#168
I laughed hard for some reason at:

- Beaten Canata
....
- Canata

Good times to be a Flash fan. Can't wait for OSL to get here, BW is still struttin',
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
February 14 2012 01:03 GMT
#169
Jaedong D=
+ Show Spoiler +
COME BACK

I'm kinda iffy about Jaedong and Bisu, but what do I know
Thanks for the Power Rank <3
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
February 14 2012 01:43 GMT
#170
Flash is UNKILLABLE. New wrist seems to be working pretty well
"After I reconquer Ba Sing Se, I'm going to reconquer my tea shop! And I'm going to play Pai Sho every day."
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
February 14 2012 01:52 GMT
#171
On February 14 2012 09:28 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 08:37 kuroshiroi wrote:
On February 14 2012 08:27 Soap wrote:
On February 14 2012 00:17 ffreakk wrote:
On February 13 2012 22:56 Soap wrote:
(Z)Jaedong
This has been the first time since July of 2007 that Jaedong hasn't been on the Power Rank. And, all favoritism aside, I really wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, one jaw-dropping game does not an appearance on the Power Rank make.


My responses:

Meh
Blah
Canata
Zzz
Whatever
Holy whoa Bisu this is what happens when you use high templar


Seriously?


It's pretty difficult to argue that Jaedong's record has been better than Bisu's. Jaedong have 1 good game, and the others were mostly losses. Bisu is pretty much the same, but his remaining games are mostly wins. Not the best games, even I (rabid fan) will agree, but generally Bisu's been performing better over the past year or so. On average :p

Jaedong has the most intense moment in all of SC:BW this year though. I had lots of fun watching the Consipated game :3


You have TLPD available right there on the sidebar, why spread misinformation? JD is 8-5, Bisu is 9-5 and "over the past year" he didn't make a single starleague.

People hate on JD because he plays greedy and that looks like shit when loses, just like Flash was called stupid everytime he was caught 14cc'ing, even though that's part of why he wins so much. Then EffOrt turtles 20min, banging his head against a siege wall while Flash triple expands, and the same people call it "a good game".

flamewheel doesn't look at "power" or actual games when he writes the power rank, he looks at results. "JD 5pooled and got drone blocked for 10 minutes, he's so bad." He still beat the shit out of flying and made ssak almost cry (on coach's orders, btw). That's a fucking tyrant. Then he topped it off by molesting Modesty.

He has plenty of power at the moment, way more than almost everybody on that list. But whatever, flamewheel is just a hater.

We are all disapointed but don't be ridicules: Flameweel a hater? He is a big Jaedong fan...

But I have to agree often people rather see Jaedong's wins as almost losses than his losses as almost wins. They count his game against Ssak as a loss and his game against flying as a loss... Shouldn't we count his (bo) loss against Effort as a win then?


Uhm, not really. But just because you have a win on paper, is that everything? Is it not right to analyze the quality of the games?

Jaedong has had 1 spectacular, 2 meh and 3 bad games. The game against Effort, Jaedong played well that game and fought valiantly against a BO disadvantage that ultimately caused his loss. You might be able to stretch things a bit and say he played well, although truthfully his play didn't stand out in any way, so "meh." The win over Ssak is not "judged as a loss" but rather a game that does not show much of anything. Once the builds were chosen and the positions apparent it was over. The bad... well, even if Flash is Flash, getting steam rolled that hard has to say something, and the loss to Canata was pretty ugly. The game against Flying... anyone who tries to spin that into a plus with words like "Jaedong managed to win even with the drone block" is a delusional idiot who does not understand Starcraft at all. That game was awful in so many ways, the continual losses of sairs to lone scourges, massing pure zeal/arch against a lurker based defense, JD's defense of his 5th which we saw in FPview no less... just awful. There's really no excuse. Props to JD for being able to admit this and laugh about it, but it's probably the worst game I've ever seen (relative to respective era, of course) in 12 years of following progaming, even without considering that one of the players is supposed to be S-class.

Up until that game against Modesty, there was no real redeeming quality to Jaedong's play. If that was not Jaedong, but some unknown Zerg playing, would there actually be any defense for him?

Thankfully there is some hope that JD isn't going to pull a Savior and totally self-destruct (referring to how Savior plummeted from an elite Zerg able to make semifinals to a complete failure after his 1-2 loss to Bisu in Ever 07 OSL). That game against Modesty as close to perfect as humanly possible. But, just as Flamewheel said, one jaw dropping game does not put you on the PR.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
rOse_PedaL
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Korea (South)450 Posts
February 14 2012 01:55 GMT
#172
where is baBy?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ MKP HWAITING ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
February 14 2012 02:25 GMT
#173
JAEDONG

Jaedong plz
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
February 14 2012 04:17 GMT
#174
This power rank is based on too few games for me to really make any value judgments.

This season sucks.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 14 2012 04:28 GMT
#175
On February 14 2012 10:55 rOse_PedaL wrote:
where is baBy?


Going 2-5 in 2012...
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
February 14 2012 04:32 GMT
#176
1 zerg in top 10. Lol.
catleaves
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
February 14 2012 05:46 GMT
#177
thank you for an awesome read! woohoo for soulkey! :D
^^
ggggbabybabybaby
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada304 Posts
February 14 2012 06:17 GMT
#178
Canata > JD

Canata not PR.

Therefore JD not PR.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
February 14 2012 07:05 GMT
#179
On February 14 2012 10:03 X10A wrote:
Jaedong D=
+ Show Spoiler +
COME BACK

I'm kinda iffy about Jaedong and Bisu, but what do I know
Thanks for the Power Rank <3

Bisu has been decent. Surprisingly, that's more than you can say for most players this season.

Jaedong has been on an endless downward spiral.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
ChiXoo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany37 Posts
February 14 2012 09:04 GMT
#180
Poor JD

hope u join top10 soon
\m/
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 27m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 291
Codebar 1
StarCraft: Brood War
LancerX 24
Dota 2
monkeys_forever169
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m5153
pashabiceps2189
Stewie2K441
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu386
Other Games
Grubby3920
FrodaN2816
ZombieGrub421
B2W.Neo233
KnowMe186
C9.Mang0131
shahzam74
Trikslyr48
UpATreeSC38
JuggernautJason14
deth6
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream40
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 78
• davetesta23
• Adnapsc2 12
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Eskiya23 22
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1221
• Shiphtur352
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
12h 27m
Afreeca Starleague
12h 27m
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
1d 11h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 12h
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Platinum Heroes Events
4 days
BSL
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-22
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.