[GSL] Code S S1 - Keen and the Bonjwa - Page 2

On January 19 2012 08:02 MildSeven wrote:
I want to see Nada beat Keen for the entirety of Nada's career, so that even if Keen wins a GSL or achieves something big, the memory of Nada will always be a thorn on his side until he dies of cancer because that thorn boiled up into a tumour caused by stress and depression while Nada remains a bawler nerd, wins the presidency of South Korea and announces his invented cure of cancer (sold on Nadamall) after Keen reached the late stages of cancer when the cure doesn't work. Nada will be on the bedside of Keen as Keen gasps for his last breath and Nada will wisper in his ears "I..am...Nada".

On January 19 2012 08:21 OgsStump wrote:
I think there's a deeper issue than top level protoss players being inconsistent here. I think the issue may be a deeper game design or metagame issue. It just seems that it's tough for protoss players to be consistently good. While there are some well mapped out strategies that can give protoss players a good chance of winning I believe protoss is the most difficult race to consistently produce results from. It seems like Protoss players have to take more risks in either the economic game or by doing a timing attack. While if these risks pay off the P player comes out with a lead and often will win the game, if these don't pay off or if the opponent exploits them the opposite is true. One example is When you take your expansion in P v T. Going one gate expand or nexus first is a pretty big risk i would argue more so than the typical terran openers just because more pressure builds from T are able to make you cancel/lose the nexus and the fact that terran can lift their CC. If the P does this risk they can keep up or even get a lead on a Terran if not they can fall way behind in supply/economy. In P v Z it revolves more around taking the third base because of the typical use of the FFE. If a protoss can't secure a relatively early third then the zerg can easily overpower P with sheer numbers.

Note I'm not claiming that Z's and T's don't have to take risks in their play, obviously they do. Nor am I arguing that protoss is severely underpowered or even underpowered at all (game probably needs to develop a bit more). I just think that in the recent GSL months even going back to the days when MC was winning the GSL we've seen the must fluxuation out of the top level protoss players compared to the other races because during this period it seems protoss players depends the most on what risks they take in game to gain a lead or prevent from falling behind. This is why protoss players will often look brilliant and other times look horrible. Obviously there are a hundred other factors that could go into protoss struggles but if you guys think there is any truth to this or not? I think Protoss still has a lot of potential and may even be OP when it comes to the late game but the problem for P has always been getting there with an entirely developed economy and tech tree and economy without falling too far behind.