EPT[GSL] Code S S1 - RO32 Day Two - Page 4
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devPLEASE
Kenya605 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On January 10 2012 11:15 Samp wrote: They wrote the group of death o_O? Group C has MVP and Nestea in the same group..id call that the real group of death.. Well a group of death usually has more than 2 monsters. And while a group including MVP and Nestea 6 months ago would almost certainly net Group of Death status, Nestea has played pretty horrible recently. And MVP has been knocked out of a couple of GSL's. Which is fine, he's still amazing, but he's gone back to being mortal if MMA and Leenock can take games off him. And then you have idra, who while in good form, is still a foreigner and has been absent from the GSL for a fair while, so there's a question mark hanging over him. And lastly Lucky. On the other hand you have Leenock, who just played an amazing finals in November and is more and more looking like the best zerg around. You have ForGG, who will either win the GSL or go deep - talent wise he's looking amazing. You have MC, probably the best protoss or one of the best. And Supernova, one of the best terrans in the world. So it seems clear to me that the latter is stronger than the former. On January 10 2012 14:32 Utaheka wrote: Really sorry to be the one to point it out, since nobody has realized it yet: Leenock is not good. Yeah, he won an MLG, but when everybody was practicing for MLG, they didn't expect Leenock to be any good, so they didn't try to practice any specific strategies against him. Now that people have realized he isn't that bad, they will start practicing against him, and he will fall faster than we saw him. Leenock has always been great. His games against jjakji alone prove that. | ||
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
Not very consistent with past scores, however I would be pleased if this became the new standard. In the past it felt kind of like game scores, where 3 was normal, 4 was okay and 5/5 was great. I think it gives game scores more value and depth when only games like Set 7 MMA vs DRG in blizzard cup get 5 stars. Also, could you possibly just make the stars the rating? Like just displaying 2 or 3 1/2 stars, instead of saying STAR 2/5? That might visually look better. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
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diophan
United States1018 Posts
On January 10 2012 11:15 Samp wrote: They wrote the group of death o_O? Group C has MVP and Nestea in the same group..id call that the real group of death.. This group has 3 tiptop tier players in it, and Supernova who seems always pretty underrated. I'd say Group C is MVP/Nestea ezpz (sorry idra). | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On January 10 2012 13:44 Waxangel wrote: historically yah, but he did pretty well against thorzain, select, and brat_ok in his recent tournaments, and they're pretty damn good foreigners  Well, Thorzain's TvZ is his weakest MU (and has been for a while) @ 57%, while SeleCT's TvZ is also ... not quite stellar @ 58% (SeleCT's TvP is definitely his best MU). Brat_OK's TvZ is pretty good though, I'll say, and it does break 60%. In any case, they're not pushovers, but I'd say you need at the very least a 60%+ win-rate in a MU in the international TLPD in order to be anywhere near competitive in the MU in Korea, and Sen's ZvT has always been really, really weak compared to his other two MUs. I mean, just look at his ZvT vs. ZvP and ZvZ; the difference is huge. | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On January 10 2012 14:32 Utaheka wrote: Really sorry to be the one to point it out, since nobody has realized it yet: Leenock is not good. Yeah, he won an MLG, but when everybody was practicing for MLG, they didn't expect Leenock to be any good, so they didn't try to practice any specific strategies against him. Now that people have realized he isn't that bad, they will start practicing against him, and he will fall faster than we saw him. You just 100% ignored the GSL. He made it to the finals in Code S, taking out the best Terran in the world along the way. Keep in mind that was a best of 5, and MVP was preparing strategies specifically for Leenock. So he was practicing for matches against him, and still didn't come out on top in what was an epic series. Leenock has close to the best ZvT in the world, a toss up really between him and DRG. Nice write up, but I really don't think Fin has what it takes to beat Leenock. He's good, but this hype is just silly. Leenock and MC to advance. | ||
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Xivsa
United States1009 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9055 Posts
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Sorathez
Australia209 Posts
Personally I would have given game 2 between Sen and BoxeR more than 1.5... to me (didn't watch Boxer vs Jjakji) it was one of the best games of the night (g1 BoxeR v GanZi was awesome), Sen struggling and as Tasteless said "barely not stabilising" and trying to come back after an early deficit. But hey, matter of opinion. | ||
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
1) One look at this group reminds me why GSL Code S holds such a high prestige and esteem. It's becoming harder and harder to survive the group stages, let alone winning the Code S. 2) If I had to pick one weakness in ForGG, it's his TvZ match up especially when zergs are allowed to get 3rd and 4th base. I think Leenock has a great chance to beat ForGG if he can hold off the early aggression. 3) MC's in great form recently, but not sure what condition he will be in after his trip to Home Story Cup. 4) SuperNova is definitely going to be the underdog in this group regardless of who he's facing, and he actually plays a lot better when the pressure is not entirely on him. This group is so hard to pick as I see just about everyone having an equal chance of beating each other. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8323 Posts
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Stamper
Germany148 Posts
I am going with MC and forGG advancing. | ||
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Varth
United States426 Posts
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DarkGo
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
 And to those who say Leenock is not good ... Did you even see his road to the finals ? This kid got some serieus TvZ and ZvZ given this TvP looks a bit shaky compared to the other matchups but i would still say he's going through. Leenock/MC with the upset of ForGG with a sick timed build, dropping either of the 2. | ||
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Sareth
Germany1008 Posts
Everyone of those 4 guys would advance in every other group (Yes even group C) and its very hard to predict the results of today. Supernova showed his huge potential in the past GSLs, Leenock owned Provence and got to the last GSL finals, Fin is just... Fin, nothing more to say, And MC just showed at the Homestorycup, that he is back. Realistic view: Fin + Leenock But I'm rooting for MC and Leenock; please MC, it would be a perfect birthday present to see you advance in this group of death  | ||
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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
Sick and nice writeup! | ||
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Theeakoz
United States1114 Posts
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
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