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SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
December 14 2011 02:45 GMT
#81
Truly some great games. Just liked I hoped, MMA is doing great. I think Providence helped give him that push he needed. If all goes well he might take this! MVP will be a challenge though.
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1094 Posts
December 14 2011 03:01 GMT
#82
On December 14 2011 08:15 Earlobe wrote:
I completely understand that clearly this was a super shitty thing to do. Naniwa was out of line and his frustration and cockiness clearly got to him. But what exactly is the issue here? Naniwa did something childish and immature because he was upset? All this means is that eSports are no different than every other sport on the planet. Zidan headbutted an opposing player. Ron Artest beat the shit out of a bunch of fans. Tie Domi sprayed water at a fan then broke his nose. These are professional players under stress expected to perform well and when they don't, they get frustrated and make insanely stupid decisions.

Now, is Naniwa wrong for what he did? Of course he is. He was essentially saying "Fuck this tournament I don't even care any more". Which is immature and childish. But do I think everyone needs to take it easy and relax? Yes. Naniwa is human. Although according to his StarCraft II play almost seems like an android. But that's neither here nor there. The point is, Naniwa made a stupid decision on a game that, as he made clear "didn't mean anything" and was trying to prove a point that didn't need to be made. Naniwa and Nestea will lick their wounds, shake hands and forget all about this soon. And so should you.

Uhh, kind of a strange group of examples to use.

- Zidane was thrown out of the game for the headbutt and suspended for three more (did three days of community service instead since he had already announced his retirement).
- Ron Artest was suspended for a 73 games, which resulted in approximately $5 million USD salary lost.
- Tie Domi was fined $1000 for his fight with the fan.

Now, Naniwa didn't fight anyone or hurt anyone physically. So whatever happens to him shouldn't be on the same level as those previous three. However, he did deny the fans from seeing an entertaining rematch with someone who is quickly becoming his rival. He also wasted a chance to further get into Nestea's head before a potential GSL meeting. Neither of those are my biggest dissapointment in him.

I'm not good enough to legitimately play for money. I can enter an open tournament, but I have no expectations of winning. Instead, I just play for pride. All I ever get to do is play for pride. Now here's Naniwa with an opportunity to play for pride and he chooses not to play. He might as well go up to everyone who isn't a tournament player and tell us all that our play is meaningless. That if he was in our position, he wouldn't play at all. It's a slap to the face of every casual player. Despite what he said during his departure from Complexity recently, it seems like the only thing that actually matters to him is the money. Once that's out of the picture, he'd rather just go home.

Despite all that, I can't really think of an appropriate punishment for him. There probably shouldn't be any official punishments. However, he certainly doesn't sound like someone who I'd ever cheer for. In the end, actions like this may cost him a lot more money than just one missed tournament prize.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 03:20:35
December 14 2011 03:20 GMT
#83
Impressive artwork. Nice work, TL.
omgimonfire15
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States233 Posts
December 14 2011 03:38 GMT
#84
On December 14 2011 08:15 Earlobe wrote:
I completely understand that clearly this was a super shitty thing to do. Naniwa was out of line and his frustration and cockiness clearly got to him. But what exactly is the issue here? Naniwa did something childish and immature because he was upset? All this means is that eSports are no different than every other sport on the planet. Zidan headbutted an opposing player. Ron Artest beat the shit out of a bunch of fans. Tie Domi sprayed water at a fan then broke his nose. These are professional players under stress expected to perform well and when they don't, they get frustrated and make insanely stupid decisions.

Now, is Naniwa wrong for what he did? Of course he is. He was essentially saying "Fuck this tournament I don't even care any more". Which is immature and childish. But do I think everyone needs to take it easy and relax? Yes. Naniwa is human. Although according to his StarCraft II play almost seems like an android. But that's neither here nor there. The point is, Naniwa made a stupid decision on a game that, as he made clear "didn't mean anything" and was trying to prove a point that didn't need to be made. Naniwa and Nestea will lick their wounds, shake hands and forget all about this soon. And so should you.


He is human. So are the other people you cited. Unfortunately, they are also representatives of his team, sponsors, and fans. And all the players you listed got punished in some way. What people are angry at Naniwa for isn't the probe rush, its the meaning behind it.

Basically it was a giant FU to everyone, and that isn't right for people who follow him and believe in him. People pay to watch the tournament, and if you sing that contract, you better know what you're getting yourself into. And if he really cared about the game and his fans, he would play the game as a showmatch of use it as practice. Instead, he makes a selfish decision because the game, his fans, sponsors, team, etc are not his priorities while playing publicly in front of thousands of people. It seems as though when money is out, he stops caring while Nestea was prepared to give it all he had for his fans and for his pride.
kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 04:03:03
December 14 2011 03:51 GMT
#85
liking these frequent articles.

oh and MMA MMA MMA
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
December 14 2011 04:17 GMT
#86
Really enjoying these fast write ups.
Siaubunas
Profile Joined April 2011
Lithuania12 Posts
December 14 2011 04:21 GMT
#87
The Picture is AMAZING
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 14 2011 04:42 GMT
#88
LOL Naniprobes
Spudone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States19 Posts
December 14 2011 05:07 GMT
#89
That picture is awesome! This write-up was excellent, as always, and I agree with the predictions.

I want to see if Leenock has studied MC and will prepare for timing attacks or just go into another series knowing he should win.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
December 14 2011 05:10 GMT
#90
It's been a while since I belted out such laughter on the internet. When I saw that poster I was like, "Oh, this must have been made before Nani played... hm... what does... OH, ROFL."
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
December 14 2011 05:13 GMT
#91
Thanks for the new wallpaper!
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
December 14 2011 05:44 GMT
#92
dat art lol =]
i hope MC wins this tournament...
Long live the Boss Toss!
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 14 2011 05:50 GMT
#93
Polt gonna smack MVP around with dem Marauders.
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Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
December 14 2011 06:48 GMT
#94
Thanks for the write-up, the art is super awesome!
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
December 14 2011 07:30 GMT
#95
that art is just awesome (and nice read of course)
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DrZz
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania70 Posts
December 14 2011 07:41 GMT
#96
great art of naniwa!! :D
Evolve, and let the chips fall where they may
d00fuz
Profile Joined September 2011
Malaysia129 Posts
December 14 2011 07:52 GMT
#97
That Naniwa art...needs to be a shirt lol!
KraeganWolf
Profile Joined September 2011
United States8 Posts
December 14 2011 08:07 GMT
#98
Alright...someone tell me please just how DRG and MMA got seeds into the Semi-Finals?
"Slavish adherance to formal ritual is a sign one has nothing better to think about."
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
December 14 2011 08:28 GMT
#99
On December 14 2011 17:07 KraeganWolf wrote:
Alright...someone tell me please just how DRG and MMA got seeds into the Semi-Finals?

They placed first in their groups.
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
December 14 2011 08:38 GMT
#100
I never thought a probe could look so sinister....
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