EPTBlizzard Cup Preview - Part 1 - Page 6
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
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rayvah
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HerO's great don't get me wrong, but being the best toss in the world because he won dreamhack? Great accomplishment and I love the guy but seriously just stop jumping the gun, because if he doesn't fill your insane expectations of him now you have only yourself to blame :| | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
So is Shakuras the new worst map for zerg now? I guess zergs always have to whine about one of them  | ||
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TidusX.Yuna
United States239 Posts
"The best foreign Zerg, playing his very best match-up, against the best Korean Protoss, also playing his best match-up" This statement is a stretch to say the least. Anyways all these games look they are going to be sick and I'm so pumped for tonight! | ||
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CeliosB
Canada100 Posts
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Bippzy
United States1466 Posts
On December 12 2011 11:54 dacimvrl wrote: seeing as how stephano got *aped in the IPL TAC by Bischu, odds are against him in this tournament. Pretty much exactly what i was thinking.... I just don't see the stephano spark Also......stop whining about hero. There Is no protoss best player, the bias is tolerable HerO is the protoss hope, mc is the protoss bad memories. Whos da best? | ||
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Olinimm
1471 Posts
On December 12 2011 13:18 Bippzy wrote: Pretty much exactly what i was thinking.... I just don't see the stephano spark Also......stop whining about hero. There Is no protoss best player, the bias is tolerable HerO is the protoss hope, mc is the protoss bad memories. Whos da best? I'm gonna go with the guy that won 2 GSLs. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On December 12 2011 13:18 Bippzy wrote: Pretty much exactly what i was thinking.... I just don't see the stephano spark Also......stop whining about hero. There Is no protoss best player, the bias is tolerable HerO is the protoss hope, mc is the protoss bad memories. Whos da best? There was a time when MC was the scariest player to play, not only because of his skill, but because he got into your head with his ceremonies and swagger. He attended several foreign tournaments, and there was a feeling of general doom whenever MC came to a tournament. Hero is not "the" protoss hope, he is "a" protoss hope. He won Dreamhack and did great at NASL, but these tournaments were largely foreigners (DRG did go to Dreamhack, where he beat Hero in the group stages, but was knocked out by Puma). Another reason for Hero's recent success is the fact that he has the opportunity to begin with. Liquid does a great job sending him to tournaments, when there a many Koreans that never have this opportunity to participate in this many tournaments. Hero is good, but this article does him no favors by overhyping him to a point where he is likely to disappoint his fans, Team Liquid, and most importantly himself. Hero suffers from nerves, he does not need to have all of these expectations on him, weighing him down each time he disappoints. | ||
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The_Darkness
United States910 Posts
 the ladder might not be that bad of a proxy for how he'll perform here -- said another way, if he's a bit of an unknown, then his performance on ladder (where he's truly an unknown) isn't the worst predictor. As much remarked his performance on ladder (at least to his fans) is remarkable -- somewhere around a 74% win rate (taking into account the account he's using already had some activity on it, I believe), which on the KR server makes you the man. At a minimum, his recent ladder performance is a positive. Match analysis: It's difficult to see how Stephano beats MVP on Shakuras. His muta-bling game is not nearly as good as his other zvt builds. If he goes mass melee I don't think he survives if he's stick with that composition for too long in the late game. On the other hand, I think if this game goes to the late stages Stephano's ultra, brood lord, infestor army (assuming he goes that route and has the opportunity to put that composition together) may give him a small chance; he was able to steam roll Thorzain's mass ghost build, which is the closest (albeit an imperfect) proxy to MVP's terrifying ultimate late game Terran death ball, so perhaps there's at least a faint glimmer of hope. Also MVP has shown (at least once) vulnerability to upgraded ling timing / counters. NesTea beat him on Shakuras with upgraded lings and ended the game early. Stephano probably would be advised to do a 7 minute roach ling push to punish MVP if he's doing the reactor helions into 3 cc build that seems so common (and that DRG destroyed punished MMA for doing twice at MLG). I'm going to give Stephano the edge over Hero. One of Stephano's greatest strengths is the ability to multitask and shut down harass. Among Zerg, perhaps only Leenock is better than Stephano at doing so. Stephano's defense is great; I think he makes MC look bad on dual site if MC goes for a timing attack or a harass based build (DTs or stargate). Stephano v DRG -- DRG is very solid; I'd give DRG a slight edge but this is a very close match up. In sum, I think there's a good chance he goes at least 2-2 but it could very easily be a long day for him. I'm not sure he's quite ready for prime time although he has the talent IMO to excel at the highest levels of SC2. | ||
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CeliosB
Canada100 Posts
On December 12 2011 11:18 monXikk wrote: I think PuMa is arguably the current best Terran player in the world. GL to Stephano! Maybe a few months ago but now puma doesnt even compare to MVP | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On December 12 2011 13:33 curtdisis wrote: Maybe a few months ago but now puma doesnt even compare to MVP Even a few months ago it was a long shot to call Puma the best. Bomber was looking invincible, and Polt had just won the Super Tournament. But back on the topic: Is there pre-match coverage on right now? | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On December 12 2011 13:47 Bagration wrote: Even a few months ago it was a long shot to call Puma the best. Bomber was looking invincible, and Polt had just won the Super Tournament. But back on the topic: Is there pre-match coverage on right now? Pretty sure it's just trolling, comparing PuMa to HerO | ||
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GhostLink
United States450 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On December 12 2011 13:59 AxionSteel wrote: Pretty sure it's just trolling, comparing PuMa to HerO I see what you did there... | ||
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
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IMNotMvp
Korea (South)530 Posts
puzzle, nani, mc are better lol even oz has a better pvt and pvp | ||
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
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Nightfal
United States77 Posts
good writeup by the way | ||
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On December 12 2011 11:28 cavalier117 wrote: on a serious note though, he has like the 4th highest winnings of any player with no GSL wins lol (MVP, Nestea, and MC are the only ones beating him) no, this doesnt mean i think he's the best terran, however its hard to say that him not having GSL results matters when he's making more money than the overwhelming majority of them The fact that Puma won that money by winning way easier tournamets like dreamhack and NASL does actually matter when it comes to determining their skill in terms of tournament results | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10292 Posts
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