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[GSTL] Playoff Preview

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[GSTL] Playoff Preview

Text byHeyoka
Graphics byHawaiianPig
September 22nd, 2011 01:39 GMT

Playoffs: Round 1

Four Teams Enter

Two Teams Leave

Looking Ahead
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Prime Clan

Incredible Miracle

StarTale

Most Valuable

Matchups
The stage is set, the curtains drawn. We could go on all day with our favorite clichés about the team season, because Starcraft is a game of seconds and every man gives 110%.

Playoffs Are Here


The time that tests what truly matters. Six bodies remain, all competing for a single trophy. The ultimate realization of hard work and rigorous training, physical gratification for carry a strong mindset through the months of play.

Through the life of Starcraft many teams will have the chance to win a GSTL Season. Only one can be the first.

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Each team's position is precarious. They're fighting to survive; every match has its risks, every risk has its reward. Everything comes down to do-or-die, death or glory. Glory is eternal, accolades are forever, but loss is oblivion. Anyone can name a winner, but only real aficionados will remember who choked, who failed, who died trying.

No team wants to be put out to pasture early; this week four of them face the fate of being relegated to the abyss of forgotten history. Each team is balanced precociously on the edge of success, yet, despite facing similar futures all of them had vastly different journeys to get here.


The People's Team
by Heyoka
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Prime


Since GSL's first forays into tournaments, Prime has been perennially popular. As a team they have maintained a constant presence in the hearts of fans, even during times when tournament wins were thin on the ground. Their popularity has derived from the 'Holy' Check, Marine 'Most-Loved-Man-On-Reddit' King, and Maka, progenitor of TheMakaRax, to say nothing of the recently departed Polt 'OptimusPrime.' Prime is a team that will always have a name, regardless of results. They even have the deliciously named AnnYeong, and 'Artosis-Thinks-I-Suck' anypro. If CJ Entus or the KTF MagicNs are any indication, championships come and go but fan relationships last forever.

Superstars in player relations, this recent journey in GSTL revealed they have yet to find themselves in the booth, their voice is shaky when the pressure’s on. Results have been unsteady and their play, at times, rocky. Barely sneaking into the playoffs, their post-season berth is thanks to Fenix ripping through oGs.

Their first outing of the seasons could perhaps best be described as a rout, with TSL's Killer and Puma alone tearing through them with ease. Their second was not much more successful, as oGs claimed a narrow victory, using HuK for his only GSTL appearance.

Their match against SlayerS in week six went more smoothly, with Boxer fielding nothing but Terrans and HongUn picking them apart one by one. Ryung briefly took control, only to be snuffed out by Terius on the sands of Bel'Shir. Their next appearance was in week eight against MVP where, predictably, DongRaeGu destroyed each and every one of their hopes to complete an all-kill.

They stood at 1-3 going into their final day of play, future uncertain and hope resting not only on their own victory, but on the eventual loss of rivals oGs. When BBoongBBoong completed a sweep of F.United it kept them in the game, though the odds that oGs would then fall to the men they had just ousted seemed stacked against them.

When Soccer and Fenix combined to take down oGs in the following week it seemed the fates had turned in their favor. Prime's 2-3 record was sufficient enough to advance from group play and into the playoffs.

Sometimes the most unlikely of fairy tales come true. For Prime, and for Prime's fans perhaps more importantly, this week is time to prove they can be champions. Champions of more than just community websites, but of booth and stage as well. It’s time for those heroes of hearts and minds to step up and do their fans proud. It is time for them to make their own luck.


The Powerhouse
by Heyoka
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Incredible Miracle


Every sport has dynasties. Stengel's Yankees, Aikman-era Cowboys, Jordan-era Bulls: teams for whom losing went beyond unlikely into unthinkable. These are teams whose names become synonymous with dominance and authority, a certain dignity and gravitas, their continued success a manifestation of collective will.

In the brief history of GSTL, Incredible Miracle has sown the seeds of becoming that team. Fielding both MVP and NesTea, each the top of their respective race and holding no less than six GSL golds between them. Each would be a likely ace on any other team, they also have a previous Code-A winner in Losira (who also has a Code-S silver – one that might have been gold had he not run into NesTea). YoDa, Happy, and Fenix round out the rest of their lineup, helping to quell any doubts as to their team diversity and depth.

On their side as well, they have the experience needed to back up raw talent and honed skill. Between MVP, NesTea, and Junwi there are mountains of experience playing on camera, so it's no surprise they are a team who is comfortable in front of the camera and even their youngest stars understand how to handle the pressure. After winning the first GSTL they went into the second as heavy favorites, only to come one game short to Boxer's team of trainees.

After those performances it came as a bit of a shock when it was revealed they did not meet the requirements for GSTL3 and were unable to compete. They came into this first season of long-format GSTL a bit rusty and a bit out of shape, but they have returned as a stronger team.

The first week against fOu (FXO Korea) they stumbled a few times, but escaped with a 4-3 victory, and that which doesn’t kill IM only makes it stronger. After Happy started off strong YoungHwa and Losira were unable to complete the kill until YoDa stepped in to finish off sC and take the win. Their second play day, against ZeNEX, looked to be more of the same. Some strong play from True, a near-kill from YoDa, and Losira coming in to clean up and take the 4-2 victory.

The next two weeks represent a low-tide mark for IM. First, victims of a Qxc all-kill when the coaches neglected to take FXOpen seriously, and second when StarTale's Bomber/Curious combo wiped them out in short order.

To maintain playoff contention they needed to bring their serious faces and wipe out HoSeo, which Losira did in fine style with his first all-kill.

Through the season they managed a 3-2 record, certainly a level that sits somewhere below the "dynasty" calibre described above. Of course, that is until their lack of MVP and NesTea is taken into consideration. With MVP sitting at 0-2 and NesTea not yet seeing play, their strongest weapons are sitting in reserve, neglecting to show much of anything. They are letting the rest of the team gain the maturity and exposure needed to compete on the team league stage. They have hobbled into playoffs with a self-imposed handicap. They’ve brought knives to a gunfight and triumphed where lesser teams have fallen, and now is time to strike with their greatest assets.

The miracle being mobilized might very well be… incredible.


The Sleeping Tigers
by confusedcrib
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StarTale


It's sometimes hard to remember that Bomber, July, Curious, and Rainbow all play on the same team together. In terms of raw, overall player talent, I would put StarTale behind only Incredible Miracle. In terms of depth of skill, ST and IM are about equal. With that being said, (unless they are changing their logo) StarTale is the least talked about team. Teams like MVP and HoSeo get talked about for being better than expected, and teams like SlayerS and IM get talked about for putting up some crazy games. Despite the lack of “buzz” surrounding the team, StarTale is one of the fiercest teams in the league, players like July and Bomber are constant contenders to win championships and players like Virus and Curious are fierce underdogs that can take a game off of anyone.

In week one StarTale accomplished what IM couldn't, beating FXO without using any big name players. Curious, Tiger, and Squirtle all got to demonstrate their high level of skill. With Squirtle and Curious being the first players to exploit some changes in the metagame, they were able to show off what we could expect to see from the next few months of Starcraft play.

StarTale showed their true capability in their next game against ZeNex. They were able to use the often-underrated Ace to snipe Byun and afterward use Bomber to get a reverse three kill. This demonstrates a lot of the strength in StarTale’s line-up, that nearly anyone in their roster is capable of an all-kill. In the same week that qxc got his all-kill against IM, StarTale experienced their only loss against HoSeo. They lost some weird games against Tassadar, Sculp, and Seal, and since the series was so close (4-3) I wouldn't think too much of the loss.

In the final week of StarTale's play they were able to demonstrate their true skill, dominating IM 4-1. IM are often thought of as the unquestionably highest skilled team in Starcraft 2, but Bomber easily beat MVP, Happy, and Losira, and Curious was able to beat YoungHwa for the win.

The biggest issue with StarTale is that it's almost impossible to tell how well they will do. Literally every player on their team has the capacity to all-kill, as well as the capacity to lose a stupid game that they shouldn't, against players they should be beating. The best demonstrations of this dynamic are the series of ST vs. IM and ST vs. HoSeo. Against IM, Startale easily won, using their best players to their advantage. Against HoSeo, ST lost terribly, with matchup results coming out seemingly at random. Despite the fact that no one talks about them, I wouldn't be surprised to see StarTale make it all the way to the finals with their deep and robust player roster, as long as they don't lose too many weird games.


The One Man Show
by bobq
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Most Valuable


Ah, MVP. Never has a team been more aptly named. The team’s story this year has really been about a single player and his unprecedented dominance; it’s not entirely unfair to say that they would have been better if they’d only played him. But we’re getting ahead of ourselves.

MVP as a team is relatively young; their first major appearance was GSTL May, which they only made it into thanks to IM’s disqualification for lack of players. MVP wasted no time making an impact, though. They showed strong play across their entire lineup, with known players like Genius, Keen and GuineaPig consistently churning out wins while a rotating cast of supporting characters swapped in.

The real surprise for most of us, though, was DongRaeGu. While he’d been a fixture atop the Korean ladder for months, it wasn’t until GSTL May that we finally saw him in a televised game. He quickly showed us what he was capable of by taking down MarineKing in game 7 of MVP’s first match, setting the stage for him to contine as ace throughout the season. Without his extraordinary play, it’s quite likely MVP wouldn’t have been able to take defending champions SlayerS down to the wire in an action-packed 5-4 final.

Suffice to say, moving into this season of GSTL expectations for both MVP and DRG were high, and one of them didn’t disappoint. Their first match against SlayerS set the tone for the season: Noblesse, Violet and GuineaPig managed one win between them before DRG came out to save the day with three straight wins. Match 2 against OGS was the same story with new names; this time it was Finale, Monster and Keen who led the fail-charge before the DRG cavalry arrived.

Match 3 brought us a new story: What happens when DRG doesn’t play. While Genius tried to step up and take his place, it wasn’t enough to keep MVP from falling to F.United.

MVP wasn’t about to let that happen, and in Match 4 they just let Tails go out and lose a game before they unleashed the Gu on Prime. While Prime’s coach insisted they had a plan in place for DRG, it proved to be pretty ineffective as he crushed their entire team and increased his winning streak to 10. With just one match left, it looked like DongRaeGu might take his undefeated streak into the playoffs with a shot at a #1 seed, but then the unthinkable happened: Clide.

MVP used their now-familiar strategy of sending out someone to lose game 1 (in this case Monster), then sending in DongRaeGu to clean up. This time, though, something went wrong; DRG actually lost to Clide. MVP sent out Vampire and then GuineaPig, but neither played a particularly compelling game, giving Clide the all-kill and TSL the #1 seed.

Heading into the playoffs, MVP's needs are pretty clear: SOMEONE other than DRG needs to win some games. The entire rest of the team only managed to cobble together 5 wins over the course of the regular season, and while DRG doesn’t lose often (a grand total of three times so far over two GSTLs), he does sometimes. If MVP can find a player or two to step up and rack up a few wins before DRG heads out and does his thing, they’ll be a force to be reckoned with, but if teams can simply focus on a strategy to beat DRG and assume the rest will fall into place, the path becomes a lot riskier. With long-time powerhouse IM and the surprising young superstar NSHS to get through before the finals, DRG’s going to need all the help he can get.


Here is Divinek with a look towards the specific matches that will be aired tonight and tomorrow. Thanks to the SPL team for making this wonderful format, which we have shamelessly stolen.

Playoffs Week 1
by Divinek

StarTale (4-1) vs. Prime (2-3)
(Z)July vs (P)Creator

StarTale
(T)Bomber: : 7 - 3 (70%)
(P)Squirtle: 3-1 (75%)
(Z)Curious: 6-2 (75%)
(P)Tiger: 1-1 (50%)
(P)Ace: 1-1 (50%)
(Z)July, (R)Max, (T)Sound: 0-1


Most likely to All-Kill: This has got to be Bomber, this guy is a beast, capable of throwing anything and everything at anyone. This is largely a reason why he is so successful in these formats. Bomber’s only real problem may actually be BBoongBBoong himself in the road to an all kill because of his ZvT, the man just knows how to build on momentum.

Snipe me!: Squirtle, while he has been fantastic so far this season his PvZ is his weakness and it is certainly within reason for either BB or Terious to take him out should he start a run of his own in this match.

AVOID: Curious. In combination with his impressive record, this man has been on a tear lately. In his last eleven games he is undefeated; this guy will take out anyone Prime can throw at him so it’s wise not to waste their best players on him and instead try for a snipe.

Prime
(Z)BBoongBBoong: 7-3 (70%)
(P)HongUn: 3-1 (75%)
(T)MarineKing: 1-4 (20%)
(Z)Check: 1-1 (50%)
(Z)Terious: 1-0
(P)anypro, (T)Hannibal, (P)Lotze: 0-1


Most likely to All-Kill: Well fortunately for Prime they have MKP, the man who is capable of all-killing any team on any given day. BB has a shot at doing this, but his chances are slim and the tides will have to favor him on this day for him to be successful.

Snipe me!: Surprisingly enough this is going to MKP, although he is a solid player capable of clearing through the lower ranks of a team, he has been severely underperforming in this league; and Bomber is an absolute TvT monster completely capable of taking this man out.

AVOID: HongUn. Despite his terrible PvP record overall, he recently went 3-1 against MC so he is more than capable of knocking out either Squirtle or Ace should it come to it. To be honest I almost wanted to do a repeat for this one as Prime doesn't really have any players you would want to avoid, per say but HongUn could certainly make a well timed impact here.

Prediction: 5-3 Startale




MVP (3-2) vs Incredible Miracle (3-2)
(T)Keen vs (T)Happy


MVP
(Z)DRG: 10-1 (91%)
(P)Genius: 2-1 (66%)
(Z)Monster: 1-2 (33%)
(P)GuineaPig: 1-3 (25%)
(T)Noblesse: 0-2
(P)finale:0-1, (T)Keen: 0-1, (P)Tails: 0-1, (P)Vampire: 0-1


I’d just like to point out in its entirety what everyone already knows: DRG is a beast. Looking at the team stats, without him they are 6-14, a measly 30% win-rate. Throw in the D-man and that skyrockets up to 16-15, which while being only a hair over 50% that’s really all you need it to be to win team league matches. This does make the most sense as MVP usually waits until they have no other options and send out DRG to get a 3-kill or flame out entirely.

Most likely to all-kill: I don’t think I need to be clever about this, or even try to be creative and say something like Genius has got this! Nah DRG is far and beyond the most likely to kill anything in his path.

Snipe me!: Ideally this award is given to Keen for his TvT, but it seems IM is one step ahead and set that up for the opening match. Otherwise I will give this to GuineaPig, while he is a random player I’m sure IM could throw Yoda or MVP at him and take him out easily as his vT is abysmal.

AVOID: DRG! But you can't avoid DRG so...avoid sC! With his transfer to a new team I'm sure he's looking to prove himself, though the strongest people from the opposition don't favor his best match up he's still a frightening force.


Incredible Miracle
(Z)LosirA: 5-2 (71%)
(T)Fenix: 5-3 (63%)
(T)Yoda: 3-1 (75%)
(P)Younghwa: 2-2 (50%)
(T)Happy: 2-3 (40%)
(Z)True: 1-1 (50%)
(T)MVP: 0-2
(T)dreamertt, (P)BBi, (Z)HorroR:0-1



Most likely to all-kill: When you think all-kill for IM you have to think who can get through DRG, and to be honest that's a very tough call. I don't think Losira has been showing the consistency to win that many games in a row as well as getting through DRG so this one has to go with Fenix. His TvT can get him most of the way, then he'll just have to hope for some amazing play until the end.

Snipe me!: Again the starting player seems most obvious for a snipe, Happy is really lacking in the vP department and I think that's a perfect opening for Genius to pick him off should he get through Keen.

AVOID: MVP. Yeah yeah he hasn't done so well in the team league this season, but let's get serious now this is MVP and he's been beasting through every MU lately. I'm sure his team is counting on him to take these play offs seriously. Watch out because this is where he's going to start making his team league splash.

Prediction: (if no one beats DRG) 5-4 MVP, (if someone does) 5-2 IM


Of course the playoffs are further reaching than these four teams, this is merely the first round. If you recall the image from last week from this Liquipedia page the top two finishing teams, TSL and HoSeo, don't have to play until next week.

Be sure to stop in next time when we discuss the finals teams and propects for the championship.

Enjoy the games!


This GSTL update was brought to you thanks to Divinek, confusedcrib, bobq, Primadog, and Heyoka in no particular order. Thanks to HawaiianPig for the graphics and SirJolt for helping with edits as always! The GSTL is pretty awesome so we are likely to will do this in the future, check back soon to find results or berate your favorite player for losing.

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@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Clank
Profile Joined April 2011
United States548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 01:56:18
September 22 2011 01:45 GMT
#2
i kinda wish the GSTL had a format similar to the NBA/MLB for the playoffs. Like have separate matches on different days. so 1 bo7/9 is one "match" and you have to win 2 or 3 matches to win, over a week or so. That'd be pretty sweet I think.
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
September 22 2011 01:45 GMT
#3
Nice write up, look forward to MVP vs IM
Fox116
Profile Joined April 2011
United States409 Posts
September 22 2011 01:46 GMT
#4
Great article. Can't wait for the playoffs.
Scarabs always going off in my head!
EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
September 22 2011 01:49 GMT
#5
Great predictions! DRG 91% win rate?! >.<
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
September 22 2011 01:50 GMT
#6
Really interesting write up and I agree 100% that Fenix would be the one to all-kill if there is someone on IM that will all-kill. THis is because he is largely unknown to the koreans so he is hard to snipe and he seems like on of those players that do good in team league but dont do to hot in starleagues.
Evil Geniuses<3
IMNotMvp
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)530 Posts
September 22 2011 01:52 GMT
#7
IM fighting! hope they use nestea
Shichoo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada118 Posts
September 22 2011 01:55 GMT
#8
The Startale portion is a little misleading. PvZ when it's BB v Bomber? I'm confused.

Why is Nestea not on IM? Won't he play against MVP?
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 22 2011 01:56 GMT
#9
sigh no Slayers... why couldn't you have sent out a non-terran just a few times cella? XD
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pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
September 22 2011 01:59 GMT
#10
Thanks very much. I don't follow GSTL very much, but I enjoy reading about predictions and results.
connoisseur
saltymango
Profile Joined June 2011
United States120 Posts
September 22 2011 02:01 GMT
#11
bomber was terran last time i checked...
aphorism
Profile Joined February 2011
United States226 Posts
September 22 2011 02:17 GMT
#12
You used the wrong logo for Startale....
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 22 2011 02:21 GMT
#13
On September 22 2011 10:45 Clank wrote:
i kinda wish the GSTL had a format similar to the NBA/MLB for the playoffs. Like have separate matches on different days. so 1 bo7/9 is one "match" and you have to win 2 or 3 matches to win, over a week or so. That'd be pretty sweet I think.


BW Proleague does that some years, its fun, bo7s over several days.

Fixed the Bomber stuff, I do a lot of editing in notepad and forgot to transfer some of the edits over.

StarTale logo is their "old" one because they have yet to use the new one for anything. Probably won't change on uniforms until after this season.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
September 22 2011 02:21 GMT
#14
There seem to be a bunch of mistakes in the match preview. It calls Bomber is a protoss, says Squirtle needs to look out for Curious (his teammate) to snipe him, and this sentence "Well fortunately for Prime they have the man who is capable of all-killing any team on any given day" doesn't really make sense, unless I'm reading it wrong. There were some other awkward areas as well. Good writeup otherwise though.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
September 22 2011 02:21 GMT
#15
Super cool matches. I love the GSTL. Sure they could improve upon some things, but every match of it is just so exciting!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 22 2011 02:28 GMT
#16
If you bet against IM and ST you're just throwing your points away. Look for big results from both of them!
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 02:32:16
September 22 2011 02:31 GMT
#17
On September 22 2011 11:21 heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 10:45 Clank wrote:
i kinda wish the GSTL had a format similar to the NBA/MLB for the playoffs. Like have separate matches on different days. so 1 bo7/9 is one "match" and you have to win 2 or 3 matches to win, over a week or so. That'd be pretty sweet I think.


BW Proleague does that some years, its fun, bo7s over several days.

Fixed the Bomber stuff, I do a lot of editing in notepad and forgot to transfer some of the edits over.

StarTale logo is their "old" one because they have yet to use the new one for anything. Probably won't change on uniforms until after this season.

Their coach said that they reverted back to the "old" logo because the new one was disliked by the community.

Prime and IM would be my predictions for winning. I think Bomber won't be as clutch as people imagine. NesTea and Mvp should kill off a lot of MvP if they get to play.
Liquipedia
HiNoon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States31 Posts
September 22 2011 02:31 GMT
#18
Great write-up, i'm betting on Professor Tea making a surprise appearance to take out DRG, 5-3 IM!
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Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
September 22 2011 02:34 GMT
#19
Fenix most likely to allkill?

..............MVP, Nestea, Losira.

Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
September 22 2011 02:34 GMT
#20
Great write up im still hoping that Prime wins which i dont see any other way happening
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Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 02:38:25
September 22 2011 02:37 GMT
#21
I dont see how DRG is favoured to topple IM despite his previous gstl performances.

MVP and Nestea have the best versus zerg in the world. Hell im pretty sure losira is favoured over DRG in ZvZ, let alone Nesteas 92% winrate.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 22 2011 02:38 GMT
#22
On September 22 2011 11:31 blahz0r wrote:
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On September 22 2011 11:21 heyoka wrote:
On September 22 2011 10:45 Clank wrote:
i kinda wish the GSTL had a format similar to the NBA/MLB for the playoffs. Like have separate matches on different days. so 1 bo7/9 is one "match" and you have to win 2 or 3 matches to win, over a week or so. That'd be pretty sweet I think.


BW Proleague does that some years, its fun, bo7s over several days.

Fixed the Bomber stuff, I do a lot of editing in notepad and forgot to transfer some of the edits over.

StarTale logo is their "old" one because they have yet to use the new one for anything. Probably won't change on uniforms until after this season.

Their coach said that they reverted back to the "old" logo because the new one was disliked by the community.

Prime and IM would be my predictions for winning. I think Bomber won't be as clutch as people imagine. NesTea and Mvp should kill off a lot of MvP if they get to play.


That makes way more sense.
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Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
September 22 2011 02:40 GMT
#23
If IM use Losira, Nestea and MVP there is no chance they will lose to MVP.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
September 22 2011 02:41 GMT
#24
Betting on Startale to demolish Prime, and IM to beat MVP.

I'm going out on a limb and predict NSHoseo as the winners. They've got some amazing players, and have performed amazingly in the GSTL this far. Also, I'm a sucker for underdogs and Sage (along with Hero) looks to be the guy to save Protoss (Artosis, among others, shower him with praise).

Either way, it's surely going to be super exciting. :D
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
September 22 2011 02:46 GMT
#25
mvp a one man show? Its only a matter of time.
Monster knocked out MC.
Naniwa just got signed.
sC is on the team
DRG just won DH. Hopefully they'll do well.
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StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
September 22 2011 02:54 GMT
#26
Did you forget about Nestea? I know he hasn't been used yet but I bet he'll come out for playoffs if needed?
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KoTakUEurO
Profile Joined May 2011
605 Posts
September 22 2011 03:00 GMT
#27
nice writeup!
hoping Prime wins... also hoping that Creator can show his stuff!
Creator and Prime fighting!
Clank
Profile Joined April 2011
United States548 Posts
September 22 2011 03:07 GMT
#28
On September 22 2011 11:21 heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 10:45 Clank wrote:
i kinda wish the GSTL had a format similar to the NBA/MLB for the playoffs. Like have separate matches on different days. so 1 bo7/9 is one "match" and you have to win 2 or 3 matches to win, over a week or so. That'd be pretty sweet I think.


BW Proleague does that some years, its fun, bo7s over several days.

Fixed the Bomber stuff, I do a lot of editing in notepad and forgot to transfer some of the edits over.

StarTale logo is their "old" one because they have yet to use the new one for anything. Probably won't change on uniforms until after this season.


well thats cool, makes it much more likely for SC2 to incorporate it. I just feel like it'd be more good games, more chances for storylines, and woud really help prove that the winner deserved the win.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 22 2011 03:09 GMT
#29
Really hoping for IM and NEstea!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
BarbieHsu
Profile Joined September 2011
574 Posts
September 22 2011 03:15 GMT
#30
On September 22 2011 11:37 Asymmetric wrote:
I dont see how DRG is favoured to topple IM despite his previous gstl performances.

MVP and Nestea have the best versus zerg in the world. Hell im pretty sure losira is favoured over DRG in ZvZ, let alone Nesteas 92% winrate.


GSTL is a different beast all together. Here DRG is king. Here, nobody is favored against him.
bobq
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States136 Posts
September 22 2011 04:01 GMT
#31
On September 22 2011 11:31 blahz0r wrote:

Their coach said that they reverted back to the "old" logo because the new one was disliked by the community.



NO+ Show Spoiler +
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


That was the best logo EVER
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
September 22 2011 04:11 GMT
#32
I thought IM did not make the GSTL May due to not enough Code S/A players, with fOu and Zenex ahead?

Nice write up and predictions.
hesho89
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada106 Posts
September 22 2011 04:15 GMT
#33
i'm kinda curious, does nestea not play in the GSTL? I find it weird how he has yet to play a game yet.
eh?
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
September 22 2011 04:28 GMT
#34
If MVP plays seriously in the GSTL, I don't see IM losing at all tbh.
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frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
September 22 2011 04:30 GMT
#35
Uh, sC shouldn't be able to play for MVP this season since the rosters were chosen at the start.
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
September 22 2011 04:34 GMT
#36
Thanks for the preview. I think Startale should handle Prime easily and IM vs MVP will be a letdown when MVP is sent out to snipe DRG, then proceeds to finish off the rest of the team.
BoxersGosuGarden
Profile Joined April 2011
Philippines155 Posts
September 22 2011 04:38 GMT
#37
IM fighting! The Powerhouse will not be denied!
zerg sad
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38156 Posts
September 22 2011 04:54 GMT
#38
Awesome write up, got me so hyped =)

Really think this first team league full season has been a big success.

2 little points:

ST's final week of play was vs fOu where Curious picked up his all kill.

GP has recently tweeted that he switched back to Toss again full time, so I'd expect him not to play random if he's sent out this time around.
elwoodng
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore438 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 09:12:22
September 22 2011 05:03 GMT
#39
I love the team leagues! Startale are the obvious favorites against Prime but I honestly have no idea IM vs MvP.

MvP has improved with the addition of sC (can they use Naniwa as well? might not make a difference but anyway) but IM's roster is so deep they might just use Nestea's monstrous ZvZ to snipe DongRaeGu.
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
September 22 2011 05:13 GMT
#40
Team leagues are so great. I'm just praying that the GSTL finals are even close to as awesome as the SPL finals were in BW this year. Go starcraft.
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ArmyOfPlatypi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States188 Posts
September 22 2011 05:35 GMT
#41
Voted for MVP, I know once Nestea/MVP v DRG happens that'll be the deciding factor.
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michielbrands
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1146 Posts
September 22 2011 05:50 GMT
#42
IM fighting! gooo Fenix, hope for some tense matches
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9013 Posts
September 22 2011 06:00 GMT
#43
I think we should call the player "Mvp" and the team "MVP". It's getting confusing.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
September 22 2011 06:29 GMT
#44
On September 22 2011 15:00 Garnet wrote:
I think we should call the player "Mvp" and the team "MVP". It's getting confusing.

The team is MvP.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
catleaves
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
September 22 2011 06:38 GMT
#45
awesome write-up! thank you! : )
^^
havox_
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany442 Posts
September 22 2011 07:07 GMT
#46
On September 22 2011 11:34 Rarak wrote:
Fenix most likely to allkill?

..............MVP, Nestea, Losira.

Thats what i thought^^ Want really agree there, but well, lets see if MVP and NesTea will make (serious) appearances at all...
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
September 22 2011 07:26 GMT
#47
Unfortunately for MvP IM has the final boss of ZvZ, IMNESTEA. Despite DRGs best efforts for an all kill no one can defeat the professor.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
September 22 2011 07:44 GMT
#48
weird to read "if no one beats DRG" when Mvp has just roflstomped him in MLG and NesTea can't lose ZvZ, IM got this, hwaiting!
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
September 22 2011 07:52 GMT
#49
Would be cool if DRG carried MVP to GSTL semifinals lol!

Still rooting for New HoSeo, home of Sage and people of Aiur
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 22 2011 08:54 GMT
#50
I would not pick Fenix for the all kill above Losira tbh ... As much as he has improved he's still skillwise, not even close on par as nestea/mvp/losira.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3804 Posts
September 22 2011 08:57 GMT
#51
So psyched.

Why not use Nestea and his GODLY ZvZ to snipe DRG??
I know you are thinking, Nestea, as sniper? Why not as ace player?
But since Nestea hasn't really played in GSTL he would be an awesome pick to take down DRG in ZvZ since he is the god of ZvZ
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 22 2011 09:06 GMT
#52
I don't think Fenix can even play for IM this season.
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SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
September 22 2011 09:11 GMT
#53
DRG is gonna all-kill the Korean SC2 scene
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 15:17:01
September 22 2011 09:26 GMT
#54
Spoiler on Prime v Startale [results]
+ Show Spoiler +
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo GSTL why must you be so infuriatingly difficult to predict! The last time I was bold enough to share who I thought would win, IM was destroyed. Now Startale is OUT. I'm either bad luck or terrible at judging teams GSTL performance!
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hoepie
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom96 Posts
September 22 2011 13:54 GMT
#55
nestea sniping drg??? puuurrrrlleeeaaase gstl PLEEAAASE!!?? :d
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
September 22 2011 14:12 GMT
#56
On September 22 2011 16:44 LeLfe wrote:
weird to read "if no one beats DRG" when Mvp has just roflstomped him in MLG and NesTea can't lose ZvZ, IM got this, hwaiting!

Why is that wierd? Technically if they said something like, if no one beats Seed, then IM will win... because of course... well I shouldn't even need to explain it.
MKP||TSL
ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
September 22 2011 15:21 GMT
#57
so wait, is there any reason that if MVP puts out DRG that IM can't put up nestea as their next player?
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
September 22 2011 15:36 GMT
#58
Kinda curious choice to not include NesTea as a contender for IM's most likely to all-kill...
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
September 22 2011 15:47 GMT
#59
Nestea MVP Losira Youngwha, right there triumphs DRGS team. Watch, it will be a slaughter, mark my words.
IMNestea's biggest fan.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 22 2011 16:12 GMT
#60
"We could go on all day with our favorite clichés about the team season"
then...
rofl, good one =)
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 22 2011 16:25 GMT
#61
On September 22 2011 11:28 Probe1 wrote:
If you bet against IM and ST you're just throwing your points away. Look for big results from both of them!

ha ! :D

Anyway, very nice writeup. This morning GSTL was pretty awesome, with a lot of zerg and protoss games, which is kinda refreshing nowadays ^^
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
September 22 2011 16:57 GMT
#62
MVP, Nestea and Losira should all be able to take out DRG. Coca made DRG ZvZ look average and we know what Nestea did to Coca. We have seen what Losira has done to every other Zerg, and look at what Nestea did to Losira.
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
September 22 2011 18:10 GMT
#63
prime to take it all

they have a lot of hidden talent
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Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
September 22 2011 18:51 GMT
#64
Sorry if this got posted (didn't get past first page) but i didn't think fenix or SC could play for their new teams because they didn't start the season with them.

other than that, great article.

but zomg
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Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 22 2011 19:01 GMT
#65
Is sC even allowed to play for MVP in the playoffs?
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rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
September 22 2011 19:40 GMT
#66
On September 23 2011 04:01 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Is sC even allowed to play for MVP in the playoffs?

I'm wondering the same thing about Fenix. Didn't rosters get locked some time ago?
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anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
September 22 2011 21:07 GMT
#67
On September 23 2011 04:40 rUiNati0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 04:01 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Is sC even allowed to play for MVP in the playoffs?

I'm wondering the same thing about Fenix. Didn't rosters get locked some time ago?


If I remember right, only the players registered at the start of the season can participate. That means both sC and Fenix can't play.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
September 22 2011 21:34 GMT
#68
On September 22 2011 18:26 Probe1 wrote:
Spoiler on Prime v Startale [results]
+ Show Spoiler +
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo GSTL why must you be so infuriatingly difficult to predict! The last time I was bold enough to share who I thought would win, IM was destroyed. Now Startale is OUT. I'm either bad luck or terrible at judging teams GSTL performance!


+ Show Spoiler +
Called it I think I even got the score right!

IM is going to destroy MvP! I just don't see a majority of the players from MvP taking out anyone and Mvp should know how to kill DRG.
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bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
September 22 2011 21:53 GMT
#69
+ Show Spoiler [Playoffs Day 1] +
Holy crap you MKP with the clutch victory over Bomber! I can't believe it really - Startale shouldn't have let it get to that point but well done Prime


In terms of IM - i am a bit surprised over calling Fenix as the most likely to all kill; yes he has improved a lot but couldn't help chuckle a little when i read that - if DRG is their most fearful player, Nestea surely has the ZvZ skill set to destroy him and the rest of the team lol?

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MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
September 22 2011 22:56 GMT
#70
IM is too op, they need to play with like 20% hp handicaps.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
September 22 2011 23:43 GMT
#71
Any reason why Nestea isn't playing for IM?
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MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
September 23 2011 01:10 GMT
#72
On September 23 2011 08:43 GenesisX wrote:
Any reason why Nestea isn't playing for IM?


he seldom was sent out because he often had his individual league to concern about, same case with IMMVP when he was still in the individual league. Losira seems to be sent out anytime unless really deep into individual.
Phatboi
Profile Joined September 2011
United States13 Posts
September 23 2011 01:20 GMT
#73
On September 22 2011 11:34 Rarak wrote:
Fenix most likely to allkill?

..............MVP, Nestea, Losira.


my thoughts exactly
Oohh Lala
Brandish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States339 Posts
September 23 2011 06:08 GMT
#74
IM never plays nestea
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 23 2011 07:21 GMT
#75
On September 23 2011 01:25 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 11:28 Probe1 wrote:
If you bet against IM and ST you're just throwing your points away. Look for big results from both of them!

ha ! :D

Anyway, very nice writeup. This morning GSTL was pretty awesome, with a lot of zerg and protoss games, which is kinda refreshing nowadays ^^

Oh man when someone said "All their Terrans were too busy practicing for code S" I died XD

I was so wrong, July out in the first match and ANNYUNG?!
I love the GSTL. I utterly fail to understand it.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
September 23 2011 13:08 GMT
#76
Good god Tails. Holy Shit. <3 <3
Go go Alliance.
catburst
Profile Joined February 2011
United States57 Posts
September 23 2011 13:19 GMT
#77
Yessssssssssssssss Tails :D
protoss <3
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 23 2011 14:12 GMT
#78
Hey does anyone have the link for that letting off steam thread? I need it. Bad.
I give up. GSTL, you make no sense, I can't understand why the coaches pick the players, I want an interview with IMs coach and I need post traumatic counseling.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
September 23 2011 16:30 GMT
#79
Awesome write-up. TL. <3
StatikKhaos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States214 Posts
September 23 2011 16:44 GMT
#80
JaeDongRaeGu is such a bosss 91% win rate, I think IM will take it, seeing as Nestea doesnt lose ZvZ and DRG is MVP's only good player (cept maybe sC)
Those Bitches
Svennedude
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium86 Posts
September 23 2011 20:15 GMT
#81
I feel spoiled after watching the series like tastosis said :D
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 23 2011 22:48 GMT
#82
GSTL never disappoint. The code S finals curse is here because of the GSTL reverse always awesome even when it should not curse.
crocodile
Profile Joined February 2011
United States615 Posts
September 24 2011 08:18 GMT
#83
On September 22 2011 11:28 Probe1 wrote:
If you bet against IM and ST you're just throwing your points away. Look for big results from both of them!

I love this comment. THROWING YOUR POINTS AWAY
Master League Terran. Huge fan of Quantic Gaming and ROOTDestiny
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 24 2011 13:20 GMT
#84
I'm a special guy.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Scorch[DeltA]
Profile Joined August 2011
Mexico41 Posts
September 24 2011 16:43 GMT
#85
DRG Hwighting!
Discretion is the better part of Valor
diMaP
Profile Joined September 2011
United States19 Posts
September 25 2011 01:23 GMT
#86
For a new follower of StarCraft, it is very helpful to read about the teams and their respective players. I am glad that their are differences of opinions on players and that you never know what might happen on any given day, in any given match. Just when I think I know what to expect, someone throws in something crazy, especially with the lesser known players. And I already belong to the "too many terrans" school of thought!
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
September 25 2011 08:04 GMT
#87
IM:
nestea: lionel messi
MVP: lebron james
Losira: rafael nadal
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Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 25 2011 20:26 GMT
#88
lolol @ these predictions, they've been wrong for so long (basically predicting TSL lose every set) and I don't really know why TL writers even bother anymore, it's just embarassing. GSTL has a huge insanity-ton of variables involved that you can only even have the slightest chance of grasping if you are deeply rooted in the korean scene, which they obviously aren't.

Predict 1v1, it's fine, you can do that kinda OK by looking at stats and watching VODs, but GSTL is a whole 'nother beast and I think it's an amazing display of confidence that they are still trying to do it.
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