• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:15
CEST 14:15
KST 21:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch0[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)90ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo40Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Is the larve respawn broken? https://www.facebook.com/Arthrovit.Arthritis.Pain. Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? ProGamer Paychecks Story Data needed
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6446 users

[GSL] October Code-S/A - "Finding Hope" - Page 8

Forum Index > News
212 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 11 Next All
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
September 20 2011 11:39 GMT
#141
awesome read good job AGAIN

somone give those writers a golden throne
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
September 20 2011 11:39 GMT
#142
Genius the main hope of Protoss in Code S...that makes me so happy but if he loses it'll break my heart.
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 12:06:54
September 20 2011 12:06 GMT
#143
whoops wrong thread
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 20 2011 12:08 GMT
#144
Very nicely written article.
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
OgsStump
Profile Joined March 2011
128 Posts
September 20 2011 12:11 GMT
#145
i like the optimism but it's hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel as long as the ghost stays the same.
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
September 20 2011 12:21 GMT
#146
A truly disgusting number of terrans. 20 terrans, 7 zergs and 5 protoss. I hope this doesnt go on too much longer because it truly sucks the fun out of it. None of the other races even have serious chances to make it to the finals.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
September 20 2011 12:25 GMT
#147
On September 20 2011 12:15 Enzymatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 09:33 MorroW wrote:
great writeup altough i dont understand why theres so much fuzz about toss when zerg is practically in the same position?
is it because of balance? i dont know. imo many of these terrans deserve their spots :p


The 41% win-rate for Protoss in PvZ in korea (for the month of August) says something vastly different then the consensus I got from your post. I have seen absolutely nothing even hinting at Protoss and Zerg residing in similar positions in regards to recent performance/balance. Especially given that not all that long ago there was a ZvZ GSL Code S final.

Not only that, but Protoss has been performing worse against Terran then Zerg. (hello 1-1-1).

hm yes i guess your right, protoss is in a worse spot than zerg right now.
but wont the patch fix all these stats pretty nicely?
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
vonterribad
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia50 Posts
September 20 2011 12:26 GMT
#148
Protoss tearing up the GSL code A even without the patch
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3765 Posts
September 20 2011 12:37 GMT
#149
On September 20 2011 21:26 vonterribad wrote:
Protoss tearing up the GSL code A even without the patch

So that will mean that the Protoss is the best second class race in SC2 (as opposed to two first class races)? o_O

Either the PvT has to redefined as Bisu redefined PvZ so many years ago in Brood Wars or it has to be rebalanced.
Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
September 20 2011 12:43 GMT
#150
Lmao @ Nestea wouldnt go to ro16 in the predictions
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
September 20 2011 12:49 GMT
#151
On September 20 2011 21:25 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 12:15 Enzymatic wrote:
On September 20 2011 09:33 MorroW wrote:
great writeup altough i dont understand why theres so much fuzz about toss when zerg is practically in the same position?
is it because of balance? i dont know. imo many of these terrans deserve their spots :p


The 41% win-rate for Protoss in PvZ in korea (for the month of August) says something vastly different then the consensus I got from your post. I have seen absolutely nothing even hinting at Protoss and Zerg residing in similar positions in regards to recent performance/balance. Especially given that not all that long ago there was a ZvZ GSL Code S final.

Not only that, but Protoss has been performing worse against Terran then Zerg. (hello 1-1-1).

hm yes i guess your right, protoss is in a worse spot than zerg right now.
but wont the patch fix all these stats pretty nicely?


Do they deserved their spots ? yes for sure BUT does race play a bigger role than skill sometimes ? i think yes.

I mean im sure some protoss&zerg players could be even more amazing if they switch to T.

Why is Terran so strong ? becuz its the only race with hard counter to EVERYTHING IN THE DAMN GAME !
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
Prem_
Profile Joined April 2010
United States85 Posts
September 20 2011 12:51 GMT
#152
I loled.
The only good job is a blow job.
Winterfrozz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden357 Posts
September 20 2011 12:51 GMT
#153
On September 20 2011 09:03 wattabeast wrote:
Great post, thanks for this! really interesting material, as per usual


HOLY heck, you read fast?!

Great post, haha. Gosu multitasking hero!!!
Jazzi!
Dikkbutt
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden193 Posts
September 20 2011 13:05 GMT
#154
On September 20 2011 09:33 MorroW wrote:
great writeup altough i dont understand why theres so much fuzz about toss when zerg is practically in the same position?
is it because of balance? i dont know. imo many of these terrans deserve their spots :p


Thats probably because zerg usually beats protoss, but protoss rarely wins against either
howdy
vonterribad
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia50 Posts
September 20 2011 13:05 GMT
#155
On September 20 2011 21:37 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 21:26 vonterribad wrote:
Protoss tearing up the GSL code A even without the patch

So that will mean that the Protoss is the best second class race in SC2 (as opposed to two first class races)? o_O

Either the PvT has to redefined as Bisu redefined PvZ so many years ago in Brood Wars or it has to be rebalanced.


Nope guess I just found it entertaining to see protoss doing really well with some unique play even through the QQ and without the patch.

The patch will have interesting effect aswell I think.
vonterribad
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia50 Posts
September 20 2011 13:06 GMT
#156
On September 20 2011 22:05 vonterribad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 21:37 nimdil wrote:
On September 20 2011 21:26 vonterribad wrote:
Protoss tearing up the GSL code A even without the patch

So that will mean that the Protoss is the best second class race in SC2 (as opposed to two first class races)? o_O

Either the PvT has to redefined as Bisu redefined PvZ so many years ago in Brood Wars or it has to be rebalanced.


Nope guess I just found it entertaining to see protoss doing really well with some unique play even through the QQ and without the patch.

The patch will have interesting effect aswell I think.


EDIT: (am I not supposed to cheer protoss doing well?)
sc2guy
Profile Joined November 2010
291 Posts
September 20 2011 13:36 GMT
#157
+ Show Spoiler +
Your prediction is right on the dot!
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Ryung, 2. Bomber, 3. MarineKing, 4. Puzzle
✿◕‿◕✿ Taeng
The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 14:03:45
September 20 2011 14:02 GMT
#158
On September 20 2011 12:15 Enzymatic wrote:
Show nested quote +


The 41% win-rate for Protoss in PvZ in korea (for the month of August) says something vastly different then the consensus I got from your post. I have seen absolutely nothing even hinting at Protoss and Zerg residing in similar positions in regards to recent performance/balance. Especially given that not all that long ago there was a ZvZ GSL Code S final.

Not only that, but Protoss has been performing worse against Terran then Zerg. (hello 1-1-1).

hm yes i guess your right, protoss is in a worse spot than zerg right now.
but wont the patch fix all these stats pretty nicely?


I'd love to hear the mouzMorroW thoughts of this patch !!!

i doubt that this patch will fix these winrates, impossible !!


and what's morrow thoughts in a patch that actually fix this mess??
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#159
Hm...

+ Show Spoiler +
Went 9 out of 10 in the first two groups. I guess Ensnare truly is the Cockroach Terran and will never die.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
September 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#160
Eventhough I am a Terran and I love watching terran game more than any other race.... there are too many terran now in pro-scene..
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
10:00
S6 Korea Server Qualifier
Zoun vs NightMareLIVE!
Maru vs Percival
Ryung 1375
CranKy Ducklings241
CranKy Ducklings SOOP15
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 1360
Lowko491
elazer 216
ProTech125
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 39559
Calm 10802
Jaedong 684
firebathero 654
Mini 399
Hyuk 388
actioN 371
Light 361
EffOrt 346
Leta 161
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 135
ggaemo 117
Rush 108
Snow 106
Zeus 83
JulyZerg 78
Pusan 77
Hyun 72
Mong 65
hero 58
ToSsGirL 50
Sea.KH 46
Killer 45
Movie 37
[sc1f]eonzerg 30
Free 28
JYJ 27
scan(afreeca) 22
yabsab 20
Bale 16
sorry 16
IntoTheRainbow 14
Aegong 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Sacsri 8
HiyA 5
Terrorterran 5
Purpose 5
Icarus 5
Dota 2
Dendi684
XaKoH 612
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1799
x6flipin521
kRYSTAL_50
Other Games
singsing721
B2W.Neo600
crisheroes223
Pyrionflax206
DeMusliM145
hiko79
Mew2King59
BEARDiaguz20
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 722
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream349
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 60
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota245
League of Legends
• Jankos1849
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
4h 45m
Bombastic Starleague
7h 45m
PiGosaur Cup
11h 45m
Kung Fu Cup
22h 45m
Replay Cast
1d 11h
CrankTV Team League
1d 22h
Bombastic Starleague
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
HomeStory Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-29
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.