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[GSL] October Code-S/A - "Finding Hope" - Page 8

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sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
September 20 2011 11:39 GMT
#141
awesome read good job AGAIN

somone give those writers a golden throne
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
September 20 2011 11:39 GMT
#142
Genius the main hope of Protoss in Code S...that makes me so happy but if he loses it'll break my heart.
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 12:06:54
September 20 2011 12:06 GMT
#143
whoops wrong thread
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 20 2011 12:08 GMT
#144
Very nicely written article.
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
OgsStump
Profile Joined March 2011
128 Posts
September 20 2011 12:11 GMT
#145
i like the optimism but it's hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel as long as the ghost stays the same.
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
September 20 2011 12:21 GMT
#146
A truly disgusting number of terrans. 20 terrans, 7 zergs and 5 protoss. I hope this doesnt go on too much longer because it truly sucks the fun out of it. None of the other races even have serious chances to make it to the finals.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
September 20 2011 12:25 GMT
#147
On September 20 2011 12:15 Enzymatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 09:33 MorroW wrote:
great writeup altough i dont understand why theres so much fuzz about toss when zerg is practically in the same position?
is it because of balance? i dont know. imo many of these terrans deserve their spots :p


The 41% win-rate for Protoss in PvZ in korea (for the month of August) says something vastly different then the consensus I got from your post. I have seen absolutely nothing even hinting at Protoss and Zerg residing in similar positions in regards to recent performance/balance. Especially given that not all that long ago there was a ZvZ GSL Code S final.

Not only that, but Protoss has been performing worse against Terran then Zerg. (hello 1-1-1).

hm yes i guess your right, protoss is in a worse spot than zerg right now.
but wont the patch fix all these stats pretty nicely?
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
vonterribad
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia50 Posts
September 20 2011 12:26 GMT
#148
Protoss tearing up the GSL code A even without the patch
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3753 Posts
September 20 2011 12:37 GMT
#149
On September 20 2011 21:26 vonterribad wrote:
Protoss tearing up the GSL code A even without the patch

So that will mean that the Protoss is the best second class race in SC2 (as opposed to two first class races)? o_O

Either the PvT has to redefined as Bisu redefined PvZ so many years ago in Brood Wars or it has to be rebalanced.
Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
September 20 2011 12:43 GMT
#150
Lmao @ Nestea wouldnt go to ro16 in the predictions
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
September 20 2011 12:49 GMT
#151
On September 20 2011 21:25 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 12:15 Enzymatic wrote:
On September 20 2011 09:33 MorroW wrote:
great writeup altough i dont understand why theres so much fuzz about toss when zerg is practically in the same position?
is it because of balance? i dont know. imo many of these terrans deserve their spots :p


The 41% win-rate for Protoss in PvZ in korea (for the month of August) says something vastly different then the consensus I got from your post. I have seen absolutely nothing even hinting at Protoss and Zerg residing in similar positions in regards to recent performance/balance. Especially given that not all that long ago there was a ZvZ GSL Code S final.

Not only that, but Protoss has been performing worse against Terran then Zerg. (hello 1-1-1).

hm yes i guess your right, protoss is in a worse spot than zerg right now.
but wont the patch fix all these stats pretty nicely?


Do they deserved their spots ? yes for sure BUT does race play a bigger role than skill sometimes ? i think yes.

I mean im sure some protoss&zerg players could be even more amazing if they switch to T.

Why is Terran so strong ? becuz its the only race with hard counter to EVERYTHING IN THE DAMN GAME !
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
Prem_
Profile Joined April 2010
United States85 Posts
September 20 2011 12:51 GMT
#152
I loled.
The only good job is a blow job.
Winterfrozz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden357 Posts
September 20 2011 12:51 GMT
#153
On September 20 2011 09:03 wattabeast wrote:
Great post, thanks for this! really interesting material, as per usual


HOLY heck, you read fast?!

Great post, haha. Gosu multitasking hero!!!
Jazzi!
Dikkbutt
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden193 Posts
September 20 2011 13:05 GMT
#154
On September 20 2011 09:33 MorroW wrote:
great writeup altough i dont understand why theres so much fuzz about toss when zerg is practically in the same position?
is it because of balance? i dont know. imo many of these terrans deserve their spots :p


Thats probably because zerg usually beats protoss, but protoss rarely wins against either
howdy
vonterribad
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia50 Posts
September 20 2011 13:05 GMT
#155
On September 20 2011 21:37 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 21:26 vonterribad wrote:
Protoss tearing up the GSL code A even without the patch

So that will mean that the Protoss is the best second class race in SC2 (as opposed to two first class races)? o_O

Either the PvT has to redefined as Bisu redefined PvZ so many years ago in Brood Wars or it has to be rebalanced.


Nope guess I just found it entertaining to see protoss doing really well with some unique play even through the QQ and without the patch.

The patch will have interesting effect aswell I think.
vonterribad
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia50 Posts
September 20 2011 13:06 GMT
#156
On September 20 2011 22:05 vonterribad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 21:37 nimdil wrote:
On September 20 2011 21:26 vonterribad wrote:
Protoss tearing up the GSL code A even without the patch

So that will mean that the Protoss is the best second class race in SC2 (as opposed to two first class races)? o_O

Either the PvT has to redefined as Bisu redefined PvZ so many years ago in Brood Wars or it has to be rebalanced.


Nope guess I just found it entertaining to see protoss doing really well with some unique play even through the QQ and without the patch.

The patch will have interesting effect aswell I think.


EDIT: (am I not supposed to cheer protoss doing well?)
sc2guy
Profile Joined November 2010
291 Posts
September 20 2011 13:36 GMT
#157
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Your prediction is right on the dot!
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1. Ryung, 2. Bomber, 3. MarineKing, 4. Puzzle
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The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 14:03:45
September 20 2011 14:02 GMT
#158
On September 20 2011 12:15 Enzymatic wrote:
Show nested quote +


The 41% win-rate for Protoss in PvZ in korea (for the month of August) says something vastly different then the consensus I got from your post. I have seen absolutely nothing even hinting at Protoss and Zerg residing in similar positions in regards to recent performance/balance. Especially given that not all that long ago there was a ZvZ GSL Code S final.

Not only that, but Protoss has been performing worse against Terran then Zerg. (hello 1-1-1).

hm yes i guess your right, protoss is in a worse spot than zerg right now.
but wont the patch fix all these stats pretty nicely?


I'd love to hear the mouzMorroW thoughts of this patch !!!

i doubt that this patch will fix these winrates, impossible !!


and what's morrow thoughts in a patch that actually fix this mess??
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 20 2011 14:03 GMT
#159
Hm...

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Went 9 out of 10 in the first two groups. I guess Ensnare truly is the Cockroach Terran and will never die.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
September 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#160
Eventhough I am a Terran and I love watching terran game more than any other race.... there are too many terran now in pro-scene..
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