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kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
April 07 2011 18:41 GMT
#61
I am glad for InControl run, he is a player that impressed me when I watch him playing in top form.

Congratz to Naniwa!!! Really impressive performance.
"It is not a shameful thing to be unable to reach the goal. It's becoming afraid and running away, even before considering the fact that the road is long and rough, that is truly cowardly." by - Lim Yo Hwan aka SlayerS_Boxer from "Crazy as me"
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
April 07 2011 19:31 GMT
#62
On April 08 2011 00:23 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 22:23 Workforce wrote:
I dont understand people who say that incontrol proved hinself as a top player in this tournament. He won against TLO with cheese (not that there's anything wrong with that, it just does not mean much), defeated some average players and lost to good players. All in all that places him firmly in the 'average' bucket in my opinion. The fact that he got 4th place just illustrates how messed up MLG:s format is.

I beat tlo as straight up as possible in the final series. Tlo would go on to beat Tyler, socke and idra.. Average? Slush took 9th beating other great players.. Mihai made it out of the open bracket beating DDe and others. Call me bad all you want but shut your mouth before
You disrespect all the fine
Players I faced.


I thought you beat some excellent players, so I don't know why people are griping about it. But if it wasn't for extended series, you would have lost to TLO 2-0 when you met him for the second time. Out of all the players, MLG's horrendous format and rules probably benefited you the most.
Don't mind me
jombeeno
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States47 Posts
April 07 2011 19:32 GMT
#63
I am very shocked and pleasantly surprised to see iNcontrol do as well as he did. However I am not sure how long that will last with a lot of his other priorities coming into play.
TehPwntif
Profile Joined April 2010
United States25 Posts
April 07 2011 19:42 GMT
#64
I find it disappointing that TeamLiquid did not use this posting as a way to start an adult conversation about the necessity of LAN for the survival of SC2. Things cannot go on as they are, and MLG Dallas proves it.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 07 2011 20:07 GMT
#65
On April 08 2011 04:31 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 00:23 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 07 2011 22:23 Workforce wrote:
I dont understand people who say that incontrol proved hinself as a top player in this tournament. He won against TLO with cheese (not that there's anything wrong with that, it just does not mean much), defeated some average players and lost to good players. All in all that places him firmly in the 'average' bucket in my opinion. The fact that he got 4th place just illustrates how messed up MLG:s format is.

I beat tlo as straight up as possible in the final series. Tlo would go on to beat Tyler, socke and idra.. Average? Slush took 9th beating other great players.. Mihai made it out of the open bracket beating DDe and others. Call me bad all you want but shut your mouth before
You disrespect all the fine
Players I faced.


I thought you beat some excellent players, so I don't know why people are griping about it. But if it wasn't for extended series, you would have lost to TLO 2-0 when you met him for the second time. Out of all the players, MLG's horrendous format and rules probably benefited you the most.


sorry for playing MLG

What the fuck is the point in saying "if it weren't for the rule in the tourney you played in X would have happened" ???

If the groups were ANYTHING like ANY other tourney EVER TLO would have been eliminated before getting to that stage and never would have beat me. No tourney does "group play seedings into final bracket" but HEY we don't bitch about that cause inc took first in his group.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 07 2011 20:26 GMT
#66
On April 08 2011 01:09 GildedAdonis wrote:
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AHHHHH FRONTPAGE PICTUREEEEEE


this, imo, is the real victory at MLG Dallas. congrats GildedAdonis!!!! <3
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Wizdom_SC2Cast
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany26 Posts
April 07 2011 20:27 GMT
#67
Very nice recap! Thank you very much. I will work my way through a lot of those MLG replays. Esspecially the ones of Select and TLO.
Tasteless: "Good players have maphacks in their brain."
chaosdarkprince
Profile Joined November 2010
Ecuador52 Posts
April 07 2011 23:31 GMT
#68
On April 08 2011 05:07 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 04:31 ptbl wrote:
On April 08 2011 00:23 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 07 2011 22:23 Workforce wrote:
I dont understand people who say that incontrol proved hinself as a top player in this tournament. He won against TLO with cheese (not that there's anything wrong with that, it just does not mean much), defeated some average players and lost to good players. All in all that places him firmly in the 'average' bucket in my opinion. The fact that he got 4th place just illustrates how messed up MLG:s format is.

I beat tlo as straight up as possible in the final series. Tlo would go on to beat Tyler, socke and idra.. Average? Slush took 9th beating other great players.. Mihai made it out of the open bracket beating DDe and others. Call me bad all you want but shut your mouth before
You disrespect all the fine
Players I faced.


I thought you beat some excellent players, so I don't know why people are griping about it. But if it wasn't for extended series, you would have lost to TLO 2-0 when you met him for the second time. Out of all the players, MLG's horrendous format and rules probably benefited you the most.


sorry for playing MLG

What the fuck is the point in saying "if it weren't for the rule in the tourney you played in X would have happened" ???

If the groups were ANYTHING like ANY other tourney EVER TLO would have been eliminated before getting to that stage and never would have beat me. No tourney does "group play seedings into final bracket" but HEY we don't bitch about that cause inc took first in his group.


Don't usually agree with you (in things like making fun of other players and stuff)... but this time you are damn right... The traditional formats wouldn't even let TLO get to that point and overall you did great even if the format is this or that way -ANY player could've been favored or disfavored, the merit goes to the one who does things right-. People just need to stop being biased ALL the time with blind fanatism. Not that much of a fan Inc, but really, good job, and if needed keep shutting down people who thinks their "heros" must always win or top. Honestly, good job...
Khas Naradahk!!
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
April 08 2011 00:28 GMT
#69
Lol I had a blast at Dallas and was great to see all the players again after the ling break can't wait for columbus will be just as exciting !!!
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Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
April 08 2011 06:46 GMT
#70
so happy for incontrol, hard working and well deserved
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 08:17:44
April 08 2011 08:14 GMT
#71

3. Protoss, Protoss everywhere

In three out of four MLGs up until now, the final four has been three Protoss and one of another race. Cries of imbalance and broken mechanics echo throughout the weekend, and such strong sentiments will no doubt reach the desks of David Kim. Perhaps this is a prelude to a period of anxiety, as both camps sit impatiently to see what's going to happen to our warriors of Aiur. The period after a big tournament will be a true test to whether Blizzard can reaffirm their loyal fans on their direction of game balance.


Awesome recap. I feel like you could've avoided the subtle balance whining, but I guess none's perfect.
As someone else said, leave the balance to blizzard, and focus on how great the players are. Trying to take away the win from Nani and Kiwi is pretty low imo.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
April 08 2011 09:56 GMT
#72
I personally liked the way that Incontrol was so humble when he lost and was very complimentary about his opponents, fair play to him
Chill Winston......
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
April 08 2011 12:14 GMT
#73
Select, Naniwa, and Kiwikaki seemed to almost be in a league of their own. I don't only say that because of their top 3 finishes but because of how they dominated basically all of the field besides each other.

Hope to see some others close the gap in Columbus.
Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
April 08 2011 15:38 GMT
#74
On April 08 2011 05:07 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 04:31 ptbl wrote:
On April 08 2011 00:23 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 07 2011 22:23 Workforce wrote:
I dont understand people who say that incontrol proved hinself as a top player in this tournament. He won against TLO with cheese (not that there's anything wrong with that, it just does not mean much), defeated some average players and lost to good players. All in all that places him firmly in the 'average' bucket in my opinion. The fact that he got 4th place just illustrates how messed up MLG:s format is.

I beat tlo as straight up as possible in the final series. Tlo would go on to beat Tyler, socke and idra.. Average? Slush took 9th beating other great players.. Mihai made it out of the open bracket beating DDe and others. Call me bad all you want but shut your mouth before
You disrespect all the fine
Players I faced.


I thought you beat some excellent players, so I don't know why people are griping about it. But if it wasn't for extended series, you would have lost to TLO 2-0 when you met him for the second time. Out of all the players, MLG's horrendous format and rules probably benefited you the most.


sorry for playing MLG

What the fuck is the point in saying "if it weren't for the rule in the tourney you played in X would have happened" ???

If the groups were ANYTHING like ANY other tourney EVER TLO would have been eliminated before getting to that stage and never would have beat me. No tourney does "group play seedings into final bracket" but HEY we don't bitch about that cause inc took first in his group.


Well in my eyes, my opinion and my observations you and TLO are sort of similar, you both got alot of potential, but you have yet to do something that solidify you as a major threat in the big leagues as of late. This MLG didnt prove neither to me, nor did it make me think NaNiwa is unbeatable or that toss is OP! :D, point is, I hope you keep improving and show me what you realyl can do. But untill you do, I cant agree with some people placing you as a top 10 player in the US.

I would love to be proven wrong tho, you seem like a hardworking guy and you deserve some major wins.
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ionize
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Ireland399 Posts
April 08 2011 17:14 GMT
#75
Wow, what an outcome. Gratz to NaNiwa.
I just love video games, what's your excuse?
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 21:03:37
April 08 2011 20:52 GMT
#76
On April 07 2011 16:03 Hold-Lurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 14:48 zaii wrote:
On April 07 2011 14:45 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
"Consistency is the Key"

Such a bullshit idea. The top 16 players were guaranteed a top finish even if they lost every single game. It's impossible for them not to be consistent really since they walked into the top 20 on Friday when they arrived. If all those players had to venture through the open bracket I'd bet a handful of em wouldn't have made it. Not trying to take anything away from them, but that's the nature of the game.

We can all agree that huk is consistent if nothing else.


Watch the latest episode of SOTG.


Why? I feel like you should provide more information in your post.

I didn't watch all of it, but my recollection is that Tyler tries to make the point that people should be looking over a 2 year time horizon for placement in the MLG and that similar to the GSL, you won't have the top talent in the beginning.

However, isn't there a *lot* more turnover in the GSL than the MLG? There's 32 individuals, 16 of which go into the up and down matches right? I also question Tyler's bias given that he is part of the seeded group, even though he was on the brink of dropping out - had he actually dropped out, I feel he would be singing a different tune.


At most 8 new players can upgrade from Code A to Code S in one season, if they win their up&down matches. It's actually pretty close to the same amount of turnover as MLG.

In MLG, the top 16 points players are seeded into the pool stuff - "Guaranteed top 24/top 32 finish" doesn't mean much when you need better than that to have security.

Edit2: Guaranteed top 24 finish is kinda representative of "you can only drop out of the top players at this speed" - If you fail to perform at 1 MLG, ok. You still have some points. If you fail to perform at 2... your position is looking really poor indeed... more than that, hope you like running the open gauntlet.

Not too dissimilar to what happened to MVP in code S - he failed to perform not once but twice and winds up in Code A.
TheDominator
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
New Zealand336 Posts
April 08 2011 21:14 GMT
#77
Holy crap Naniwa was a beast.
Glad to see TLO having an impressive finish and taking out IdrA.
Best game was IdrA vs Huk.
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Losing to a hallucinated army... gutted.
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SoBeDragon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States192 Posts
April 09 2011 06:48 GMT
#78
One zerg =(

Idra fighting!
If at first you don't succeed, redefine the parameters for success.
m0rg3n
Profile Joined March 2011
25 Posts
April 09 2011 16:04 GMT
#79
This MLG was the least enjoyable tournament I have seen in ages. Reasons being:
1) Crap organization (yeah, I am one of those idiots in Europe whe havent slept for nights to see games with my HQ ticket... I saw "We will be comming online soon" for 90% of that time)
2) Stupid system of matching players
3) Imbalance everywhere. Im am not whining, but do your statistics and maths revision and go over the results from last major tournaments. Point 3 reinforces my belief that the game is no longer enjoyable to play if you are a zerg; and it is not enjoyable to watch if you have a sense of decency. Lack of innovation, matches looking exactly one like another simply because "skill" has ben reduced to "build orders" and "hard/soft counters".
This is just my opinion, don´t feel free to insult me or other likeminded people because of it. However, if you remain polite, I am looking forward to see your answer.
"I thought he'd be frustrated, especially since [Huk] can't beat me in a real game..." Idra
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