Tournament begins: Saturday, Oct 02 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Our long term goal for the TL Open is to have consistent, high quality weekly tournaments hosted directly through TeamLiquid. This past weekend we made significant progress toward that goal, as TL's first open tournament, http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/The_Altitude_TL_Open ran successfully on the EU Server. We plan to make improvements to the organization and tournament software, but now that we have one TL Open behind us, we are confident that the basic structure is there.
As with TL SC2 Open #1, we will be opening registration early for professional players. Please only register if you plan on attending. Last time, 14 of 36 early registrants did not attend. If you feel you qualify for early registration, PM me to see if you qualify. As a general rule, if you are not prominently listed in the SC2 International TLPD, you will not qualify for early registration. Check out the current early registrations here.
The prize pool for this tournament is provided by TeamLiquid. If you are interested in becoming a short term or long term sponsor for the TeamLiquid Open, please see our advertising / sponsorship page.
* Note: For TL SC2 Open #1 we had 780+ total registrations (including waitlist), but only ~450 actually checked-in. That means if you register, even for just the waitlist, and show up for check-in, you have a very good chance of making it into the tournament. We had ~60 byes in the first round last time.
I finished in ro32 (losing to SeleCT) in the last TL tourny. I'm dying to play here too, but i don't have US account yet . I would appreciate if any of you guys could lend me account for 1 day.
On September 22 2010 04:51 Lexvink wrote: Awesome, I get to sign up this time! =D But is it me, or is the prize pool a lot smaller than for the EU server?
It's the same. 500$.
Edit: NVM I'm retarded. Yes it's 300$ lower because of the economy.
On September 22 2010 04:51 Lexvink wrote: Awesome, I get to sign up this time! =D But is it me, or is the prize pool a lot smaller than for the EU server?
Sweet, I'll be registering for this tournament. I'm in the international database but don't have any games on it so I guess I can't do early registration ^^
On September 22 2010 04:51 Lexvink wrote: Awesome, I get to sign up this time! =D But is it me, or is the prize pool a lot smaller than for the EU server?
On September 22 2010 04:51 Lexvink wrote: Awesome, I get to sign up this time! =D But is it me, or is the prize pool a lot smaller than for the EU server?
The prize pool is smaller because we do not have an official sponsor for this one. We did not plan for every TL Open to be $500, that was just Altitude being awesome and providing a larger prize pool.
On September 22 2010 04:51 Lexvink wrote: Awesome, I get to sign up this time! =D But is it me, or is the prize pool a lot smaller than for the EU server?
The prize pool is smaller because we do not have an official sponsor for this one. We did not plan for every TL Open to be $500, that was just Altitude being awesome and providing a larger prize pool.
Hey mate, I want to sign up or submit a casting application if possible please. What do I need to do to make that happen? My sig has the URL to my YouTube channel if you want to check it out.
Even though the prize pool isn't significantly smaller than the EU hosted tournament, this doesn't really bode well for E-Sports in the US if TL can't even find a sponsor.
On September 22 2010 06:24 57 Corvette wrote: Looks fun, i will try my hardest to make plans to be online for noon. How long do these tournaments last on average?
The last tournament's finals started ~5.5 hours after the tournament began, though we plan on running it tighter this time.
Hey guys hope this will be an awesome tourny! Is there any way a minor sc2 caster could cast this? ( suchs as myself? :D or are you going to get day9 to cast it?) Would love to be able to cast this tourny as it would be alot of fun and might give my youtube channel a popularity boost :D I would be cool with casting with someone else or team up cast. So can anyone give some more info about the casting situation on this?
Is this open to anyone? What do your credentials have to be to register (normally, not pre reg). I kinda just want to do this for fun...I saw so many byes on the bracket during the first one.
I loved the first open. You guys did fantastically. The "fact" that games were cast from replays wasn't an issue, but it did present one tangential issue that I hope you guys can find a good solution for in future opens.
The issue is just that with replays being farmed out to a bunch of different casters, it was kind of a chore to figure out what stream to turn on to watch the games I wanted to watch. It made it almost necessary to keep all streams open at once, but then when the Livestream ones went to commercial it would scare the crap out of you.
It would be awesome if there was a way to make a "TV Guide" like listing of what stream will get what game. It doesn't have to be specific. It could just be a certain stream will get X, Y, and Z blocks on the grid no matter who plays.
I understand how this has logistical issues during a live event like what happens if a set is particularly long, etc, etc. These are things I hope that perhaps you or a group could figure out (or we could make a thread to discuss it) and I feel would make the viewing experience even that much better.
That being said what's there is still and already amazing. Just one small request! Thanks TL!
On September 22 2010 08:12 Takkara wrote: It would be awesome if there was a way to make a "TV Guide" like listing of what stream will get what game. It doesn't have to be specific. It could just be a certain stream will get X, Y, and Z blocks on the grid no matter who plays.
This would be brilliant, just do it somewhat like March Madness for college basketball. Everyone gets a block of 16/32 for the first 4/5 rounds, then the more well known get blocks for the next couple rounds, etc., and put on the bracket who will cast what when.
On September 22 2010 06:00 {88}iNcontroL wrote: FUCK
Anna's pageant is the 1-3rd
Damn it. Please tell me there is more of these.
Ooooooooooooooohhhhh. Now I understand why twitter keeps suggesting I follow someone named Anna based off of my starcraft subscriptions. Mystery solved.
I hope we can grab some interesting statistics about the state of the game and how much influence Patch 1.1 had on the game. I know it's not perfect but something is better than nothing.
looks like ill be busting out some intense 1v1 games for the next week and a half getting ready, i dont plan on making past the first round but hey it will be fun to try
sounds like its going to be a pretty awesome tournament! I'll be there at 12 for registration, and if I do get to play there is NO WAY I'm missing this!
So if the early call doesn't fill up all the spots, can the rest of the people (Of any rank) register afterward, or is the entire tourney plat-diamond level only?
Assuming Blizzard gives SEA players NA access in the patch is about to be released, I'll register. I haven't touched SC2 for like 2 weeks but I'll probably practice since this is a pretty good motivator.
On September 22 2010 09:26 BuGzlToOnl wrote: What are the chances someone in Diamond has of winning against the likes of Nony?
Didn't Nony or Tyler (or whatever) lose a PvP in his TLA when his plat/diamond opponent used phoenixes against his immortal push? Kind of ironic since Nony said he created his pheonix heavy strategy because he was always losing against immortal pushes.
On September 22 2010 11:59 Electrobes wrote: So if the early call doesn't fill up all the spots, can the rest of the people (Of any rank) register afterward, or is the entire tourney plat-diamond level only?
Early call will only fill a small portion of the spots. Once "normal" registration opens anyone can register
On September 22 2010 12:12 lac29 wrote: So ... are no-shows going to be penalized?
I think we're just gonna observe how it goes right now.
On September 22 2010 11:59 Electrobes wrote: So if the early call doesn't fill up all the spots, can the rest of the people (Of any rank) register afterward, or is the entire tourney plat-diamond level only?
Yes, that's what the "open" part means . Anyone is welcome to register once registration opens, regardless of rank. The only requirement is you have a US Bnet account.
On September 22 2010 12:12 lac29 wrote: So ... are no-shows going to be penalized?
We do have a record of who no-shows. We may do something with this in the future.
Also even if the open registration fills up (which it will), please register for the wait list. Last time we ended up including everybody on the wait list and we were still short to fill a full 512 man bracket. Don't think you won't have any chance of playing just because registration fills up.
1. If you're only going to allow replay casting in the end grid, then use that policy for the entire tournament. The let-down and lag that viewers experience between the live early rounds and the replay casting was really bad. Also, isn't it equally important (if not moreso), to prevent cheating in the early rounds? If you stay consistent, the casters and audience will have better flow throughout the entire event.
2. Plan the casters early. Caster X gets to follow player X, Caster B gets to follow player B, etc. Then for the grid, say which caster gets which QuarterFinals, which Semifinals, etc. Have 1 primary streamer (+1 co-caster) and do not allow additional obs beyond the Referee and official streamer. Have some back-up streamers ready and waiting just incase the main streamers no-show or have technical difficulties. By pre-planning the streams, you will be able to announce, ahead-of-time, who will be streaming what. This will be a huge plus for viewers, preventing confusion and the frustration of trying to find what you want to see.
Does anyone have any help for someone looking to get into casting? What tools does everyone use to stream/cast? I would even be interested in getting my feet wet casting in this if I could figure everything out in time. I've been told back when I played counterstrike that I would be a really good caster.
Also, super pumped for this! Definitely gonna be signing up and trying my luck against TL's greatest! :D
Lucky me I ordered 3 copies of SC2 when it launched A preordered one from the US to get into Beta that will come in handy now will deffinitly try to get into this one aswell even if I got smacked around in only round 2 last time But I guess one has to keep at it to get anywhere like all competitive games!
And just to get my point on the Casting last time I hope we get some Europe based casters this time around since the streams last time were lagging quite heavily and shouldnt be because of my 100/100 connection other then that I must say I really enyoed Wolfs cast.
Looking forward to another set of amazing TL.net inspiered games!
Can't wait to give this a shot--should be a lot of fun. It's really great to see open tourneys like this where amateur players get a chance to test their mettle against pros. Thanks TL for this amazing opportunity.
This is going to be a lot of fun. I'm taking the day of work to play in the tourny and when I lose (cuz im not very good) I will get to stay and watch all the streams. Only got about 2 weeks to practice as much as possible, anyone want to add me imaROBOT - 177 please do so we can practice.
how long does this normally run for? so since it's october 3rd 1am KST, that's October 2nd 9AM PST (US West Coast). Just wondering if I can make it because of length constraints.
On September 23 2010 02:14 Kazeyonoma wrote: how long does this normally run for? so since it's october 3rd 1am KST, that's October 2nd 9AM PST (US West Coast). Just wondering if I can make it because of length constraints.
I can't imagine myself getting through the second round or so without a bye, but I think I'm gonna join nonetheless. That way I've got a reason to train hard for the next few weeks!
Good luck everybody!
And thanks to TL too (hoping for that sponsor to show up!).
On September 23 2010 04:44 gatz wrote: I'm new here at TL and I'm wondering if you guys take donations for the prize pool?
No, we do not. We just feel that donations to our tournament prizes aren't in the spirit of TL. We've never asked for donations before and we don't plan to. That said, we are in the process of looking for sponsors to increase the prize pool.
How often are each games to be played apart from each other? It says it starts at 1:00am KST which is 11:00am for me, although I won't be able to play till the afternoon of the next day at the earliest. I'd like to be able to sign up though not if it means playing 1 round and being forced to then forfeit. If someone could get back to me on this it would be great. I apologize in advance if there is another place this is posted and such, this is my first time on the site, or posting on the site.
On September 23 2010 12:47 EvinKurA wrote: How often are each games to be played apart from each other? It says it starts at 1:00am KST which is 11:00am for me, although I won't be able to play till the afternoon of the next day at the earliest. I'd like to be able to sign up though not if it means playing 1 round and being forced to then forfeit. If someone could get back to me on this it would be great. I apologize in advance if there is another place this is posted and such, this is my first time on the site, or posting on the site.
It's a 1 day tournament, the whole bracket is played on that day.
On September 23 2010 21:57 ComaDose wrote: GO HUK.
great to see so many canadians. But only one zerg aha. GO SLUSH.
Haha yeah because Zerg is still UP even after patch 1.1. I have a feeling that SC2 is going to be very Terran heavy with a spattering of Protoss players, at least on the higher levels, for a while. A bunch of Zerg players were holding out for the patch hoping that it would give Zerg some buffs but since that didn't happen a bunch of Zerg players are jumping ship. On a side note I wonder if Sen is still playing Zerg? He's a great Zerg player and I would love to see him in this tourney.
for the love of god please stream live this time its so much superior just fix it so its max 3-5? streamers in 1 game and no observers allowed, then it shouldnt lag. Thanks
On September 24 2010 01:04 Torrentsven wrote: for the love of god please stream live this time its so much superior just fix it so its max 3-5? streamers in 1 game and no observers allowed, then it shouldnt lag. Thanks
replay streaming is horrible ><
First, 3-5 streamers in a game is never going to happen, that's super inefficient and we'd never do that.
Second, we don't stream the later rounds live because there's no way to enforce fairness. Players can just listen to the stream or have their friends listen to the stream and cheat off it. We're not going to just assume people don't cheat.
Replay streaming is what we'll be doing unless we find a suitable way to delay a live Ustream broadcast, and we haven't found a way to do that yet. We already know that live streaming is better, but we're not going to sacrifice event integrity just because fans like it more.
Seriously, if there is one universal truth about online competitions (or any competitions rather) it's that a lot of people will cheat if they get the chance. Cheating by listening to a stream is so easy too.
I read somewhere that we need to upload and report wins in between games. I assume that's the responsibility of the winner. How is this done correctly?
On September 22 2010 05:23 Hot_Bid wrote: The prize pool is smaller because we do not have an official sponsor for this one. We did not plan for every TL Open to be $500, that was just Altitude being awesome and providing a larger prize pool.
Is there a way to donate to TL aside from buying Tshirts?
On September 24 2010 05:42 JBangin wrote: I read somewhere that we need to upload and report wins in between games. I assume that's the responsibility of the winner. How is this done correctly?
The tournament software that handles registration and check-in will manage this. Once the tournament starts, you are given your opponents battle.net information and on the same page you can report wins and upload replays.
On September 24 2010 05:42 JBangin wrote: I read somewhere that we need to upload and report wins in between games. I assume that's the responsibility of the winner. How is this done correctly?
The tournament software that handles registration and check-in will manage this. Once the tournament starts, you are given your opponents battle.net information and on the same page you can report wins and upload replays.
On that topic. For those who have EU and US (and other..?) battle.net IDs, will there be an option to add those to your profile on TL or should we just enter the US battle.net ID before the tournament?
On September 27 2010 00:18 RaptorZ wrote: Is a crappy bronze player entering for funzorz frowned upon?
Anyone can sign up, there's no requirement for skill level. Nobody is going to make fun of you if you are bronze. You might lose early in the tournament, but it's 100% your choice if you want to play.
Also surprised by the breakdown, ZvT is my best matchup, because I get so much practice with it ZvZ is definitely my worst closely followed up by ZvP.
I'm pretty curious and concerned about the choice of map for the first round. I was expecting something like Metal, but Delta Quadrant seems so out of Zerg's favor because of the amazing easy to take expansion for Toss and Terran players that only have to defend that one wall.
Maybe I'm just butthurt over it because I have that map vetoed on the ladder t.t
On September 27 2010 09:46 BloodreaveZ wrote: Yeah I did, thanks. I just gotta remember this time that its a day earlier, but I'll definitely be there.
Click the little [local] link and set your time and it'll automatically convert.
On September 27 2010 06:53 Doughboy wrote: Gah not digging the first map, but gotta roll with what's dealt.
I wonder if there's any chance of them changing the first round map before the tournament starts. I was practicing on it all night with very little success @_@
On September 27 2010 09:46 BloodreaveZ wrote: Yeah I did, thanks. I just gotta remember this time that its a day earlier, but I'll definitely be there.
Click the little [local] link and set your time and it'll automatically convert.
The local link only shows for the date / time tags. Set your timezone in your profile.
I don't want to sound like a jerk but wouldn't it be 9am PST not PDT because PDT doesn't begin until november? Sucks that I'm on waiting list....I hope i make it in : /
On September 27 2010 13:36 elitestryker wrote: I don't want to sound like a jerk but wouldn't it be 9am PST not PDT because PDT doesn't begin until november? Sucks that I'm on waiting list....I hope i make it in : /
You have it backwards, you're currently in PDT. PST resumes in November.
On September 27 2010 12:34 ghostsquall wrote: Please do not make Delta Quadrant first round. D: That's terrifying for Zerg players. Half of them are gonna be eliminated first round.
I was coming to the thread to make the same comment. Quoting for emphasis I guess.
Hi I just started a new job and got my schedule today, I will be at work at (12noon Eastern?, that's when I think the tournament starts)
If I am correct i'm working 10:30-5 Eastern time so I don't think I'll be able to attend my round, I'm not sure who to tell this to so I posted it here if you would remove me from the list.
On September 28 2010 11:03 ZeaLL wrote: Hi I just started a new job and got my schedule today, I will be at work at (12noon Eastern?, that's when I think the tournament starts)
If I am correct i'm working 10:30-5 Eastern time so I don't think I'll be able to attend my round, I'm not sure who to tell this to so I posted it here if you would remove me from the list.
On September 28 2010 10:51 skftw wrote: Registration opens: Monday, Sep 27 1:00am KST unfair due to the fact there was 500 registered before this date.
This is inaccurate, registration opened at exactly that time and filled at Monday Sep 27 3:00am KST. Please check your facts before making claims like this, you were most likely confused about time zones. Monday Sep 27 1:00am KST was 34 hours earlier than your post.
I am player 273 in the tournament. My proper bnet name showed up on the registration form, but it logged me as my forum name. Who should I PM to adjust, or does this post suffice?
Your forum name is shown on the registration list. Your bnet details are kept private and only show to your opponents during the tournament. If you wish to verify they are correct, you can check them on your user profile page - http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/editprofile.php
This is my first time entering a tournament and I notice winners must upload replays and also report the results, can anyone tell me where I should be uploading replays and where or to who should win results be reported to? Thanks for help.
On September 29 2010 07:32 R1CH wrote: Your forum name is shown on the registration list. Your bnet details are kept private and only show to your opponents during the tournament. If you wish to verify they are correct, you can check them on your user profile page
Thank you for the clarification.
Edit: Pulled link because it was breaking formatting, but the URL tag wasn't showing up on the edit screen.
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*SIGH* There MAY be a family event this afternoon that I have to attend making me unable to participate in this amazing tournament. Sorry if this has caused any inconveniences.
I seem to remember signing up for this, and specifically seeing it say "You are already registered for this event" when I went to the page again, but I don't see myself on there Did I maybe register past the 512 and become a back-up of some variety or did I screw up somehow?
Edit: Oh, didn't know there was a waitlist of any variety. Guess I'll just stick around during check-up and hope for the best.
Someone should fix the countdown timer. Right now it's stating when the actual tournament is going to begin, rather when check-ins begin, which is 30 minutes earlier.
Family emergency - ffffffffff, going to miss first TL Open. Oh well, gotta cancel my registration, good luck to the players and enjoy the games. Sorry.
On October 02 2010 21:07 Lovedrop wrote: Someone should fix the countdown timer. Right now it's stating when the actual tournament is going to begin, rather when check-ins begin, which is 30 minutes earlier.
My battle.net seems to be going a little crazy, constantly disconnecting from the achievement server and whatnot. A friend says his is as well- lets hope there's no big issues with some of the earlier rounds.
On October 03 2010 00:39 Nokarot wrote: My battle.net seems to be going a little crazy, constantly disconnecting from the achievement server and whatnot. A friend says his is as well- lets hope there's no big issues with some of the earlier rounds.
My two friends and I in the TL open are having the same issue. Hoping I don't get DC'd in the middle of the first round.
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Won't be able to join, nooooooooooo!
